German SPIES bombed a Canadian-American bridge in WORLD WAR I? | Citation Needed [3/4 show S2E5]

The Vanceboro Bridge was once an important bridge between Canada, and the United States of America - and the Germans actually bombed it during World War I in a calamity of events. Join the 3/4 show as we play Citation Needed to find out how it all unfolded! Special thanks to channel member Cits for sharing this story with me.
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[@christopherspringer2764]

So, my dad grew up in Danforth, ME, which is only like half an hour from Vanceboro. And after watching this video for the first time, I asked my grandmother (my dad's mom) about this event, and she told me the entire story from my grandfather's father's perspective. Gerald Greene, I believe his name was, and as it turned out, he was the one of the railroad policemen that took Werner Horn into custody. As a matter of fact, it was his very first day on the job. Later, in 1917, he was drafted into the army, and fought in the trenches. After my grandfather was born in 1938, he was drafted again into the army in 1941 and was assigned as a tank engineer in North Africa. He rose to the position of tank commander, and after the war in Africa was over, he was transferred to Operation Overlord during the D-Day invasion. He stormed Omaha Beach in the 3rd wave, and he was told to leave all of his kit on the boat, because he would find everything he needed on the beach from dead soldiers.

[@Hyce777]

WHAT!? Oh my word. What are the odds. Dude, thank you for sharing.

[@toboterxp8155]

"Fun fact": the guy at the embassy, von Papen, later became Hitlers vice chancelor. One of the people charged at the Nürnberg trial.

[@steeljawX]

Well I guess that's evidence against Hitler. He was never going to succeed in his "third reich", not with Von "Failed-to-get-a-single-bridge-blown-up-in-the-last-war" as his vice chancelor. He's probably the one who suggested they try to double cross the Soviets and invade them during the Winter, because his last Winter Ops went so well.

[@burnerheinz]

thaaats where i know the name from! kinda predictable now that i think about it.

[@avobot9705]

Ahhhh

[@Hyce777]

that is a not fun fact

[@AshCatTrainz]

@@Hyce777it’s a very fun fact

[@LRA_Models]

As a guy from Germany I just have to say... This is just awsome ! Your imitaion of the German language / talking made me laught so hard ! Love your content Hyce !

[@christiangunther7128]

As another guy from Germany, I second this!

[@DonkenAndToivolaRR]

Also a german: ja, sis wass heelaarrriouss!

[@mr.greenfly5090]

KARTOFFELPUFFER! I literally died on my chair! Great content!

[@thatoldme1234]

Vocabulary addition: Pancakes = Palatschinken

[@mjustm2]

@@thatoldme1234 pretty sure that’s only in Austria, elsewhere it’s Pfannkuchen

[@polarvortex6496]

“Imperial German accidentally makes a key mistake by assuming the train timetable is accurate” just (pardon the pun) tracks so well. Also if kAN ever comes down to the Museum, get him on the show with a trash can helmet to cover his face if he doesn’t want to show it

[@Dumbrarere]

LIMES!

[@notmuch_23]

Lime this user!

[@1MBStudios]

Kan has shown his face many times. He used to stream, and you can go watch his April fool's scrap mechanic video with scrapman. He has a face cam in an MS paint version of the gear like scrapman has

[@silmarian]

@@1MBStudios Sure, but a trash can with glowing eyes would be amazing.

[@drachenfliger1368]

Lmao most German mistake back then, nowadays it would be the complete opposite

[@realcanadian67]

Inspector Carr Horn, immigration officer for the State of Maine, famous for 1915 Vanceboro international bridge bombing

[@TheOneTrueDragonKing]

These 3/4 idiot shows ROCK. They never fail to leave me laughing SERIOUSLY hard. Sometimes I even forget to breathe, I'm laughing so hard. Whenever the limes come out, I start laughing, and at the end I always exclaim "HYCE!" If you four hadn't been museum railroaders you DEFINITELY could have been a comedy act! I could DEFINITELY go for more Citation Needed.

[@trainmaster844]

Always love these fun episodes and learning/laughing along with “Citation Needed”. I’ll see if there’s any fun stories from the Wilmington & Western and the Rockton & Rion to submit for the next season.

[@RC-Nightshift_ADHD]

These seasons are wonderful! Cheers to more!

[@croom1278]

i woke up for this, i do not regret it.

[@AstralAnimater]

18:40 As someone who has played D&D, Carr Horn is a vibe

[@QuebecGamer20]

This has been hilarious every Time! Cant Wait for Season 3!

[@Nareimooncatt]

Film these during open hours as a new museum special event? I'd pay good money to watch this live... Assuming I was anywhere remotely close to Colorado. XD

[@jaysmith1408]

Most definitely. Four hour flight, over an hour on RTD, and a heck of a walk. Absolutely worth it for this. Then again, it would certainly be different if hosted anywhere but the roundhouse or a pub, the dozens of others around them notwithstanding.

[@christopherbraud]

On a side note, my dad owns the exact same brand of engine lift that sits behind Leighton. Love these videos, so sad to see season two end, so excited to see season three. Can’t wait to see who the next special guest is.❤

[@QuintonMurdock]

You should do one for the USS barb who is credited with sinking several ships and a locomotive

[@Spook_Boi]

Thatt happened twice?? i knew about Eugene Flucky who commanded a submarine in ww2 named the USS Barbus (Barb), and they ratioed a lot of the japanese navy as well as going "see that train that just went into that jap port? yea? i dont wanna see it". but please do tell im intrigued

[@mikefilipkowski5445]

how did USS Gato sink a locomotive of all things?!

[@trainmaster844]

@@mikefilipkowski5445 It didn’t sink an locomotive, but the crew from the ship did make an on-shore attack against an enemy train and it was credited as a “k!ll”.

[@Spook_Boi]

@@mikefilipkowski5445 not sure about the Gato but the way the electrician on the USS Barbus did it was hook up the scuttle charge to a pressure switch, go out in the middle of the night, plant it, run like hell, and wait. train went ~200 ft in the air cuz 65 pounds of raw tnt, and went in the drink

[@AirJimInCT]

It was Barb, not Gato

[@NKP765PRODUTIONS]

As a ww1 and ww2 and train nerd I like it 👇 thanks for the likes

[@FishyFish8312]

Same. This truly did put a smile on my face.

[@NKP765PRODUTIONS]

Oh well that’s good

[@Elliottblancher]

Can you talk about prairie style architecture used by railroads? No one has talked about prairie style yet and it looks quite interesting on railroads

[@Mr.Railfan]

Great video! Have you heard that Canadian Pacific #2816 is getting overhauled to make a trip from Calgary, CA to Mexico City?

[@seymoarsalvage]

Yee. It should be on KCS trackage... which is right down my road lol

[@superwaygames]

It’s probably going to be like “WHY IS IT SO *WHISTLE* HOT!!!”

[@thefaulnt3562]

When?

[@Mr.Railfan]

My guess would be sometime in June, July, or August.

[@thefaulnt3562]

@@Mr.Railfan thanks

[@LordBorox]

Great video! Your 3/4 of an idiot videos never cease to make me laugh. The Blazing Saddles reference was great lol.

[@stevemellin5806]

You guys have a great time .lots of laughs . Have a great week .....a good story also.

[@gamingdoggo66]

Hyce should talk about how Germany 2nd poorly attempt on the railroad during WW II how it was over before it even began.

[@gamingdoggo66]

Here’s the link to the Wikipedia article on it en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pastorius

[@Morphior]

That bell sounds really, really good.

[@errolbuggufin]

Love the story! The Demoman joke reminded me of a locomotive that appears in TF2 that apparently is currently at the Colorado Railroad museum. DRGW #50 if I’m correct.

[@pubbarian]

love citation needed always look forward to them, but getting the second one makes me a little sad cause that means no new 3/4 idiots episodes for a while.

[@Hyce777]

We do have to film the next season soon!

[@DC4260Productions]

I love the use of 346's bell as a stand-in for Mystery Biscuits.

[@statelyelms]

So cool to see Hyce and the other 3/4 of an idiot cover a topic involving my province! I was wondering why Vanceboro sounded familiar.. it's right across the border from the rail hub of McAdam, New Brunswick, which has a STUNNING chateau-style railway station/hotel that the small town just restored recently. Also, all the railroading Hyce brought me into inspired me to take a book out of the local library on the rail history of my New Brunswick - it is expansive for such a small province! So many interesting stories. From milling tycoons building loads of narrow-gauge to profit from the government subsidy of land-for-rail-mile, to trying to build a rail line from the Bay of Fundy to the St. Lawrence to bypass the winter ice, to building a SHIP RAILWAY to CARRY WHOLE SHIPS 25KM OVER LAND from the Bay of Fundy to the Northumberland Strait (the Chignecto Ship Railway) and more.. it's so cool knowing all of this happened here! A shame it all got torn up in the 80s.. P.S. No Brett, it's in New Brunswick, not Newfoundland! Newfoundland's the island on the far far eastern end, and was still an independent British colony at the time believe it or not. You probably got mixed up with their St. John's vs our Saint John.. it happens a lot..

[@NathanLougy]

Yes! Please do more of these videos! Great for a good laugh, and the extra train history is nice too! 😁

[@creepermaster6193]

Finally something related to war! Thank you for the bell 346! And a question for you hyce, what is your favorite bass guitar and standard electric guitar.

[@spencerclauser1531]

You should do this one Leaked audio reveals US rail workers were told to skip inspections as Ohio crash prompts scrutiny to industry

[@HWRR12]

Can't wait for season 3 maybe flying scotsman us tour would be pretty good for Citation Needed

[@rgsrrofnc]

Alamosa. Alamosa. Alamosa! More! More! More! More! So much fun guys. Thank you.

[@jacebeleren9290]

Next season Citation Needed on the Great Locomotive Chase!

[@AzaleaGP30]

I always love these videos, there’s never a dull moment, also those German imitations had me rolling on the floor laughing.

[@polarjet1833]

Never in my life would I think I would hear a man yelling “lime that man” to a man holding a lime wedge

[@andrewreynolds4949]

Going with the current disasters theme on the show, I recommend looking up the Dover Oklahoma bridge collapse, which resulted in a massive lawsuit

[@BMMEC6000]

I’ve been underdressed (by modern standards) in Maine during a mild winter and to think that he was out there for THAT long is just crazy!

[@GlennHolland]

By far some of the most entertaining railroad/history/preservation content on KZbin. The 3/4 gang vibe so well with each other and can do well with whoever the (un)lucky fourth happens to be. Can't wait for more Citation Needed, Two of these People are Lying, and 3/4 Idiots!

[@hadinossanosam4459]

38:37 Actually "Three quarters of these people are idiots" would be the perfect title for this imo - clear Tom Scott reference, but it is a different vibe, and also a nice reference to the three quarters joke. And the last quarter is whoever is currently giving the correct answer :P

[@katies6426]

Beautiful. Could also do the Dupont (Washington) train collision.

[@Hyce777]

Ugh. We could. lol

[@AirJimInCT]

34:20 a highly acceptable Who’s Line reference. Bravo

[@michaelhayes1678]

Love it! Lots of fun! More please! :D I'd send stories if I had them.

[@NEAFarmKid4010]

This was awesome lol! I believe Brett is 4 for 4 on the Citation Needed shows. As always, great job and hopefully there will be another season of the 3/4 Idiot Show soon.

[@crosshammer1787]

Funny and fun video. I was laughing the entire time, especially when the limes went flying

[@Atlas525]

🎉 THE GRANDE FINALE 🎉

[@OfficialDenverRioGrandeWestern]

Thanks bro for the epic finale

[@lonestarlocomotive7467]

The ryker maneuvers was because before next generation the actor injured his back. Which is also why ryker puts his leg up anytime he can.

[@Vectrum0013]

i've been waiting for a new citation needed

[@cedarvalleyrail8419]

I'd put the bell cord under the table for more discreet operation

[@patricksheary2219]

Omg, you idiots absolutely hilarious! Hollywood couldn’t improve on the looniness of that story! Thanks Mark for another “idiotic” season (my lime shield is up 🤣)! Looking forward to the next season’s installments! Cheers to you all.

[@thebanananacam]

The title reminded me of how a ww2 sub "sunk" a train.

[@abyssminiaturestudios6103]

😂 can't wait to finish this on lunch break

[@bluescrew3124]

Super funny & great story Hyce!

[@kfcgaming4891]

Love the video hyce

[@erumaaro6060]

2:20 You have been clipped, sirs. Have a good day.

[@raymondchason2877]

i like this hope for season three with more stores and trying to see who lies

[@AtkataffTheAlpha]

"Lime that man. LIME THAT MAN!" - Mark "Hyce" Huber

[@huntermccornack5162]

Loved it can't wait for next one

[@rescues_greyhounds]

Love the Blazing Saddles references!

[@superbluhedgehog1]

I have a suggestion for a future Citation Needed for an incident near my area over 100 years ago, but all I have is newspaper articles, not an official incident report from any investigation agency. A: would that be enough?, And B: if so, where shall I send it? Loved this story, and the hijinks of the 3/4 of an idiot crew. Can't wait for next season!

[@Hyce777]

Shoot it over to the channel e-mail at [e-mail]! :)

[@magrogrem9234]

I have to say hyce you got some good chuckels out of me grüße aus Deutschland

[@skylershummingbird1667]

The more and more I listen to this (I'm at the flag on arm part), the more I understand why they lost the war...

[@sirrliv]

Love these specials. And yes, I've got so many ideas for both Citation Needed and Two Of These People Are Lying.

[@lowellpearson8782]

Geat keep it going fun stuff. now for logging that is a kick.

[@drewbarker8504]

346 has such a lovely sounding bell. Such a great addition to this fantastic nonsense Hyce, you should have kept your moustache just for this occasion-wax it to look like Kaiser Wilhelm 😂

[@Hyce777]

That would've been perfect, had we not filmed this 5 weeks before the mustache occurred! :D

[@drewbarker8504]

@@Hyce777 This is true! And apparently you didn’t know you needed Brett’s secret Pickelhaube helmet either!

[@Grigori423]

We need to see slow-mo shot of limes exploding after beeing hit by Bret's machete! Style points if the fragments hits somebody's face (watching act of slashing vigorously on a table levlel or in the air) :D Also an advice- just tie longer string to a bell cord ;)

[@davidrickey3000]

I LOVE this show. The timing, the history, the citrus! (In a German accent)

[@robertherronen2957]

They get better and better

[@kristophermobley6592]

I've got to remember 1-800-NOT-MY-PROBLEM, that part about killed me😆

[@IndustrialParrot2816]

Something cool is the newfoundland railway was actually narrow gauge so I order to get to St John you had to change gauge on New Brunswick also newfoundland wasn't part of Canada at that point

[@richardjayroe8922]

How about the German plan to do the same thing but most US east coast train infrastructure during WW2. I like this

[@railfanjamie6147]

Not a very noteworthy story but a good friend of mine was a higher-up for the C&NW and later UP (he’s retired and now runs the interurbans at the IRM). He was telling me of a picture that hung up on a wall in an office in Chicago of a C&NW stack train that got stuck under a bridge with a sign that said “no stack trains”. It’s probably in a box somewhere in the dungeons of the Union Pacific HQ now lol

[@gilligan8795]

I have a complaint. There aren't enough episodes.

[@lordsherifftakari4127]

inactivation is the term used to describe that formal shutdown of a combat unit. the Lime heard across KZbin

[@Hyce777]

Take that, Brett! :D

[@ProtonTheProtogen]

Hyce, you and Kan should get an Eureka and name it Edward on the C.R.A.P line

[@fabiansawilla7911]

The name "Franz von Papen" sounded familiar to me. Well, turns out he later, among other things, became Hitler's Vice-Chancellor...

[@imaginekarma8582]

Car horns in that era went awoOOOga

[@falfan7.62]

oh cool a story that kinda takes place in New Brunswick very nice

[@rescues_greyhounds]

Please let Season 3 begin tomorrow

[@godlugner5327]

9:56 I like to think this is similar to how south Park episodes get written

[@thefaulnt3562]

the story of how a theme park in California (Knott's Berry Farm) got Rio Grande engines

[@specialfunnelstudios5523]

You should do this on the big boy crash

[@frantasramota1359]

I know a railway story from Czechoslovakia about the mysterious light that killed 118 people.

[@yukonxl5723]

aww man, the air compressor didn't sneeze

[@flamedude_1111]

0:41 Be careful Brett doesn't fly away.

[@notmuch_23]

These are pretty good, I'm looking forward to Lawrie Rose being the fourth person someday!

[@weird1012]

Train+WWI go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@behnkarrlsun]

I love Citation Needed.

[@NorthernNewEnglandRailfan]

1:27 random cog joke and Also my prediction is it's the Maine/Quebec border and it's Canadian Pacific

[@HuntOfficial1776]

Could you talk about the time the New York central strapped a jet engine to a Budd Rail Diesel Car?

[@Palerider1942]

THis story needs to be a film XD

[@wilfstor3078]

11:10 Bridge between Canada and Maine, that would make the Canadian Province either Quebec or New Brunswick, but having looked up Vanceboro I have determined it is the latter Also I can't tell if that's what he was going for, but Leighton nailed the Maritime Canadian accent for "It's just a bridge buddy"

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

How to blow up a bridge (in Minecraft): 1. NEVER ENOUGH EXPLOSIVES 2. Place them strategically

[@blue-raptor4017]

This is just the way to blow up anything isn’t it?

[@HclPudding]

Some day, years from now, someone's going to find a lime in the stack of '20 and nobody is going to know why.

[@MainlineThruTheRockies]

Could we maybe see Jimmy’s friend Dusty from the museum next? 😛

[@RGH2007]

The more I watch the more I laugh and yeah…. Can I be in at least one for season three… I’ll drive out to golden for it

[@MASTERCHIEF1062]

hearing "smoke and a pancake?" I instantly was like rekideki Dutch bastard.

[@wolffang-vz2ty]

I like to imagine grandma is just smiling at her idiots as they play their game and borrow her bell

[@Hyce777]

I'd hope so. She's pretty calm as far as engines go. Lol

[@bobbysenterprises3220]

See all that happens when you turn back around to watch the explosion.

[@CMDRSweeper]

No! Please no sound file of that one, but some engineering for ringing it! It is sort of the random fun to see if Hyce can manage to get a single gong or two out of it :P

[@Hyce777]

It ended up hurting the flow which is why we soundfiled it.

[@railroadactive]

Not so fun fact. The disaster at Lac Megantic in 2013 occurred on this same line. I did hear of this incident before but I didn't hear of all the funny details

[@Dan_Gyros]

sounds like a plan from an 80s spy cartoon

[@XENONPLASMA]

Leighton needs multiple limes for saying "he went to Newfoundland" you do know Newfoundland is an island? Lol