With the beard and armor he looks like a Spanish conquistador
@dmgill836 жыл бұрын
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH IANQUISITION!
@jungletrooper92526 жыл бұрын
Michael Gill lmfao
@dustypluskrat74236 жыл бұрын
SPANISH INQUISITION RESTARTS DURING OPERATION MICHAEL
@juliusfisher12985 жыл бұрын
@@dmgill83 dammit I was going to pull that joke.
@midshipman86545 жыл бұрын
Jay Steele the thing is, the armor worn by the conquistadors probably were more effective and had more shoulder room for a rifle
@mickles19759 жыл бұрын
Is he sitting in front of a cabinet FULL of Lugers?
@ForgottenWeapons9 жыл бұрын
mickeybill Yes, he is.
@danieltaylor55429 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons I have never been more jealous in my life!
@ForgottenWeapons9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Taylor Simpson Ltd has more or them. LOTS more... kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZPHnGOBaJqbZtk
@ChrisPenta9 жыл бұрын
mickeybill Yeah. Wonder why they cost so much? Yeah, jerks at Simpson Ltd have about 120000000x10^8 lugers.
@NormanMatchem9 жыл бұрын
mickeybill Actually laughed when I seen it all. To be honest, I don't find much appeal in Lugers, although I UNDERSTAND why people like them. I prefer my Webley Mk.VI, though I would of course want some of those contraptions from back in the day that help in quickly reloading them.
@TheGreatWar9 жыл бұрын
That was both entertaining and informative. Thanks.
@ForgottenWeapons9 жыл бұрын
The Great War Glad you liked it! We followed this up with some ballistic testing on reproduction armor, which you can see here: www.full30.com/video/de2b44d88992230423dfb0c7a5ef9374
@TheGreatWar9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Will do, thanks.
@michaelmccarthy46156 жыл бұрын
The Great War, Indy and Ian should join forces and do a special episode! A counter attack of information to the masses of inquiring minds that seek to expand our knowledge of history!! The I's have it!
@lutymcshooty25565 жыл бұрын
Indy
@ottogofast38825 жыл бұрын
Brings me joy that y’all are KZbin friends
@snuff9648 жыл бұрын
someday a guy like Ian is going to be talking about how derpy our current armor systems are.
@ToxikDouche8 жыл бұрын
Lol "this is a Kevlar vest. archaic right? this wouldn't stop a high energy particle beam from a kids toy. but this was the highest level tech available for Frontline troops."
@GamelessOne8 жыл бұрын
And kevlar is already getting old as we speak.
@Gabdube7 жыл бұрын
Well, kevlar vests are just a modernized version of fabric armor. Fabric armor, such as gambesons, is the single most universal and important piece of armor in human history, also one of the most effective too. Padded garments like gambesons were worn to battle by pretty much everyone everywere in every historical era since the paleolithic, because stacking a bunch of layers of fabric has always been the most efficient method of saving your ass from projectiles and blades. In the history of armors, steel plates are overrated.
@genericfakename81977 жыл бұрын
Well as of 2017 our armour is pretty damn good. You can encase your entire ribcage in rifle-stopping steel or ceramic. In terms of "what's trying to kill me" versus "what can I wear to dissuade that" modern troops are as protected as soldiers in antiquity or the medieval ages.
@skoshi_tempest7 жыл бұрын
Mako Reizei Girls und Panzer character ^
@sik3xploit8 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that people seem to disregard the value armor can have if it doesn't give you 100% full life protection. I'd rather be in a hospital bed for about 5 months rather than being prematurely buried in a ditch.
@Gabdube7 жыл бұрын
To think that, even in antiquity and the middle ages, peasants would still wear effective armor (gambesons and such) when called to arms. But during modernity, lower-class human lives were comparatively seen as disposeable. It took a while for technological development of armor to have the incentive to really catch up to that of weapons; and it basically involved going back to gambesons, quilted layers of fabric, or plate. (BTW, "modernity" as a historical period means between the late 17th and early 20th centuries. Late 20th century was not modernity anymore, modernity ends in the early 20th century and we enter the _contemporary_ historical era. Like, Descartes was a modern thinker, whilst Foucault was contemporary.)
@browncoat6977 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, these days, soldiers are usually given pretty good protection. It was maybe 1914 to 1975 that infantry was poorly protected and disposable, with the only real protection being helmets (which, in fairness, have probably saved a million people over the last hundred years, minimum). Since then, we've developed armors and stuff capable of actually keeping you, if not 100% safe, at least prevent you from dying when you get shot. If you're really lucky, you'll just get a nasty bruise and have to get some new gear, but more often you'll just get some broken bones and go to the hospital for a while as a result.
@Gurgleschlortz6 жыл бұрын
They didn't have the means to make effective armor in the early 20th century, the bullets were too powerful for traditional metal armor to be viable and they had no means to make anything more advanced. Helmets were designed to prevent deaths from artillery strikes and continue to be used for that purpose today, serving much the same purpose that hardhats serve to construction workers: namely preventing falling debris from cracking your skull open.
@paytonanthony13086 жыл бұрын
The armor when shot by a rifle created spalling and shrapnel and deforming the bullet, making it do more damage. Pistols worked
@stevenl.cranford59926 жыл бұрын
During WWI there were several attempts to develop and use personal armor. Particularly by observers and "snipers" going into No Mans Land between the battle lines. At first these worked well, then soldiers on both sides sent messages home requesting to have their Big Game hunting rifles sent to them on the front. The Big Game rifles had enough power to punch through the steel armor (being light enough for one or two men to carry) and fairly soon the attempts to use armor was dropped because steel was much to heavy to use when you had to move forward, or backward. Remember, the standard battle rifles of the day were 30.06 (US), 303 British (UK) 7.92 Gewar 98 (German). All of these cartridges generate more kinetic energy than the Intermediate 5.56x41mm or 7.62x39mm commonly used in todays military. Even today, body armor strong enough to stop these rifle rounds are much to heavy for a soldier on foot to wear / carry all day long. The USA could use them in the "War on Terror" only because the soldiers rode in vehicles to the battle site, dismounted for patrols, firefight, then got back in their vehicles to move to the next position. Battle field body armor is mostly to protect you from shrapnel and indirect fire. Though it is proven to save many lives, which is why you always wear your helmet.
@ArnoSchmidt709 жыл бұрын
3 interlocking circles were the brand label of the Friedrich Krupp Steel Factory, located in Essen, Germany.
@mercoid9 жыл бұрын
Top bit of info. Thank you.
@ArkadiBolschek9 жыл бұрын
Arno Schmidt It's still the company logo to this day.
@ArnoSchmidt709 жыл бұрын
ArkadiBolschek Only as part of the ThyssenKrupp concern. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/8/8c/ThyssenKruppLogo.svg
@ArkadiBolschek9 жыл бұрын
Arno Schmidt Exactly! ^^
@sumyungguy51269 жыл бұрын
Arno Schmidt 6:00
@EdsEnemy9 жыл бұрын
"Artillery caused more casualties in WWI than rifle fire by a long shot." Har har har Ian, very droll.
@MartinWillett9 жыл бұрын
Douglas West Oh, that one went over my head.
@manictiger9 жыл бұрын
Bart Bols That went right over your head by a long shot.
@quintenmessemaker89319 жыл бұрын
***** artillery...long shot....do you get it now?
@blackdeath4eternity9 жыл бұрын
Quinten Sarn lol
@franklinblankenship89919 жыл бұрын
+Martin Willett lol for you...
@Hairysteed8 жыл бұрын
"artillery caused more casualties in ww1 than rifle fire by a long shot" - pun intended? ;)
@wallygrafe81348 жыл бұрын
nice
@voltag3man8 жыл бұрын
Nice pun but Artillery was mainly used for taking out other artillery or tanks, rarely used for infantry
@IonoTheFanatics8 жыл бұрын
oh they did... heck, they'd barrage front trenches of the enemy side before their own infantry try to assault it for this, they can expend ludicrous number of shells and you can read various records of WW1 describing the hell on earth these barrage creates to the front trench (and the infantry hiding inside it) even in WW2 where trenches are not as common, artillery are still used extensively to wipe out infantries, both against infantry in open or infantry in defensive position. artillery were in fact not particularly effective against tanks, and far more useful against soft targets like infantry because artillery shells usually need a direct hit to cause non superficial damage to tanks (unless the artillery shell is absolutely massive) which is why anti tank guns were created, since the best way to kill tanks really was to fire high velocity armor piercing shell directly at the tank... not by using high explosive shell indirectly.
@voltag3man8 жыл бұрын
Iono Sama artillery then was just sending a bunch of mortars and hoping it kills a big number, they werent accurate, just highly deadly and something you dont want to be under
@IonoTheFanatics8 жыл бұрын
Thomas Anderson not entirely the heavy artillery yes they were not accurate, but no that did not stop both sides from using them heavily to bombard the trenches and infantry concentration, a job they in fact do a lot judging from the shells they expended for operations in some operations u read in WW1 history for example, the heavy artillery can fire incredulous number of shells in a relatively short duration to soften up forward defenses (trenches, fortifications, troops etc) and the second type of artillery of course were the light artillery like field guns etc... these were much more accurate than the heavy artillery as they fire in a more direct manner lobbing either high explosive or shrapnel shells... VERY deadly not surprisingly since they were much more accurate and were intended to smash most things containing infantry.. be it their trench points, machine gun locations, fortifications of any kind, or massed infantry assault (which with shrapnel shells will basically turn into swiss cheese in an instant if the gun can be brought to bear in time and placed correctly)
@dominic01479 жыл бұрын
90% of the worlds lugers are in those cases haha
@sergeantbigmac9 жыл бұрын
Mr. Mars Experience Dude, look up Simpson Ltd... they literally have a storage room FULL of Lugers. Christ, they basically cornered the market. There are a lot in this video, but its nothing compared to them. I think Ian actually did a tour of their facility once? Older video I think, but im sure i saw it?...
@dominic01479 жыл бұрын
sergeantbigmac i hate when companies or people do that, buy up all of certain guns or ammo to artificially restrict the market and make the prices jump up
@sergeantbigmac9 жыл бұрын
Mr. Mars Experience Ya I agree entirely, but it is cool to see their collection. Its the biggest im aware of anyway...
@Dambo969 жыл бұрын
Mr. Mars Experience Like Diamonds
@JonatasAdoM6 жыл бұрын
We all would have done it if we had the chance. I heard that when you can sell food you destroy it to increase the prife. I'd just storage it until the price is right (like grains, I'm not talking about food that spoils)
@matthewholehouse27183 жыл бұрын
I got my friend a reproduction M1916 stahlhelm with the extra armoured plate to attach to the front of the helmet for his German WW1 airsoft setup. Neither of us were prepared for how damn heavy that extra plating was. Needless to say he cannot use the extra plating for airsoft games due to practicality reasons but it still looks awesome.
@larsvanwijgerden92468 жыл бұрын
"Can i just get some grenades instead? Or a machine gun?"
@jorge85966 жыл бұрын
Lars van Wijgerden and thus the mp18 was born
@clockworkmultiverse926 жыл бұрын
A Lange Pistole 08 would be good.
@ottogofast38825 жыл бұрын
With that armor, shit give this man sword and shield!
@rogerramiussergeialexander55415 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a lot of soldiers have asked that throughout history, with minor difference in context and language.
@sumvs59924 жыл бұрын
Flashbacks to Avanti Savoia
@ThePerfectRed9 жыл бұрын
Using armor on modern soldiers was a completely new concept in 1916. Only 2 years earlier nobody would have though of issuing steel helmets so they really had to find out the most effective way to use armor on a modern battlefield. There were a lot of strange constructions by almost every major army in WWI.
@mathiasbartl93939 жыл бұрын
+Funny Farmer French Cuirassiers still had breastplates and helmets at the beginning of WW1.
@vguyver29 жыл бұрын
+Mathias Bartl Mounted Prussians and Polish troops going back even before and later during the Napoleonic wars had steel plated cuirass with a similar goals. They were even given a bullet test before being distributed as a quality control test that it would work.
@diamondproductions27 жыл бұрын
Kinda crazy that Europeans used to wrap themselves in full plate armor only to abandon that once guns came around and then to put armor plates on once again lol
@browncoat6977 жыл бұрын
When you include cavalry, armor plate never really stopped. Considering cav is going to be lesser in number (because it requires more training, more resources, etc.) than infantry, not to mention their vital role as flankers/fast attack units, armoring your cavalry to some extent was a logical step, especially against smaller, slower projectiles (pistols, shrapnel, etc.). This has continued into the modern day, only not in the form of horse-mounted cavalry but rather armored vehicles, both IFV/APC types of things and of course the tank.
@martinkaufmann52058 жыл бұрын
The three interlocking rings are indeed the company logo of former Friedrich Krupp AG in Essen, Germany. The companiys history is fascinating and it turned Essen from a small Town into what is now Germanys 9th largest city at 600000.
@jameshay72476 жыл бұрын
And only 40 million people had to die to accomplish that! Go, Krupp! x)
@fatihsaidduran4 жыл бұрын
German Stormtroopers: Can we have Tanks? German High Command: We already have Panzers at home. Panzers at home:
@gerogemichaels75803 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJaseKh5pMtsbaM
@jacobums45383 жыл бұрын
I already have a feeling why they stopped using these: US solider:“They are in our trench?, where?” *clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk*
@lenny_13694 жыл бұрын
Wearing this armor limits your movement capabilities like a stormtrooper *_...WAIT_*
@jonathanhansen37099 жыл бұрын
I've wondered for the last 50 years what the "Frankenstein" bolts on German WWI helmets were about. I even asked a couple of WWI American Vets who had seen combat in France and Belgium and they didn't know. One of them suggested it must have been part of the manufacturing process. By 1918 I don't think the front helmet armor was widely used by German soldiers. As you point out it was very heavy and uncomfortable to wear. One of these two veteran friends had been in action where they overran German trench positions and took prisoners. The fact he had no memory of ever seeing that front helmet plate arm our among front line German troops suggests they weren't using them by 1918.
@MrAerohank8 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan Hansen They are air vents.
@jackapgar58244 жыл бұрын
maybe to attach helmet covers, extra armor, face gaurd, or gas mask fittings. Thatd be my guess
@majestikmse88623 жыл бұрын
@@jackapgar5824 Correct, it served as both ventilation holes and the points where you would attach a brow plate. The latter intention was abandoned in the ww2 era when stahlhelms were manufactured with shorter ventilation holes, and the holes were eventually ditched with the Bundesgrenzschutz' M53 stahlhelm.
@jabloko9923 жыл бұрын
Or just didn't notice, I imagine with the whole 'getting shelled and shot at', carefully inspecting your opponent's helmet is not high on your shopping list.
@gerogemichaels75803 жыл бұрын
@@jabloko992 Yeah i was going to say, you'll probably be in some state of shock if you've just stormed enemy trench positions lmao, you probably don't notice too many details
@toesly8 жыл бұрын
"Still, it beats a bullet to the forehead " hahah
@jalanmason7 жыл бұрын
He should make a channel called forgotten Armour
@leximatic4 жыл бұрын
"Hello, i'm Ian. Thank you for tuning in to another video of "Forgotten Armour dot com" and what i have for you today is a very nice japanese "Do Maru" set of armour..."
@deniz16034 жыл бұрын
@@leximatic fucking weebs
@Red-S-2673 жыл бұрын
Just go to metatron
@user-jc2in3cp3g3 жыл бұрын
Bri ish?
@politedog49599 жыл бұрын
I think that both the Axis and the Entente used medieval style mail coats as protection against shell fragments or inside the early tanks.
@theoneandonlyrustyshaklefo62565 жыл бұрын
Augschburgball You mean the central powers.
@codeydewey89245 жыл бұрын
I know the tank crews of the English army had a mask with steel shutters across the eyes and a mail mouth cover, just as a bit of protection from gunfire and shrapnel. Chain mail or hauberks were likely not used due to them really not being effective against piercing weapons (like bullets).
@nagmashot4 жыл бұрын
@@codeydewey8924 they were only used against fragmentation of the tanks armor it it was hit on the outside and splinter of it were flying around inside... reason simple enemy concentrate fire on vision slit there were some crazy designed masks for tanker in ww1 c8.alamy.com/compde/pb9ye9/der-tank-crew-gepanzerte-maske-pb9ye9.jpg
@Retardeano4 жыл бұрын
Axis = WW2 Entente = WW1
@jonathanwells2234 жыл бұрын
Retardeano central powers = WW1 Allies = WW2
@bami29 жыл бұрын
This is my sappenpanzer. It panzers my sappen. The steel plate helmet attachment is called a "stirnpanzer", the strap that went through the slots at the back was leather and sown shut: you couldn't remove it. It also looks like the belts holding the different plates of the chest armor together are replacements of the original papercloths.
@brittakriep29383 жыл бұрын
Sappe is an old term for ditches in sieges.
@stephanhuber80055 жыл бұрын
2:04 My hand move when I see that many lugers.
@Perforator20009 жыл бұрын
"Still beats a bullet to the forehead, though."
@RIVERVIEWIAM9 жыл бұрын
That's really cool. Looks like a crossover of a Roman soldier setup and a bomb disposal unit kit.
@magnusskipton70673 жыл бұрын
“The Germans commissioned 500,000 sets” So your tellin me there’s a chance?!
@aenorist24318 жыл бұрын
To clear up the Markings: They are the Logo of Krupp (Company) , Essen is a city in which Krupp had extensive Steelworks, so the combination makes sense. Though the Logo itself only denotes Krupp.
@LeeFerikson7 жыл бұрын
"still beats a bullet to the forehead, though" well said.
@Budabaii3 жыл бұрын
looking back on an older video from forgotten weapons, I didn't even realize Ian had a lisp, He's done a good job at getting rid of it over the years.
@popinmo3 жыл бұрын
Can we have space marines Mom: we have space marines at home Home:
@knechtor56489 жыл бұрын
Really nice vid, i'm a fan of early military Bodyarmour, especially between and in both world wars so this is a real treat.
@dimitri-petrenko9 жыл бұрын
Knechtor The Russians used armour in WW2 aswel, looks similar to this, shocktroops used this mostly.
@knechtor56489 жыл бұрын
Dimitri Petrenko Yeah the SN-42 could stop a pistol bullet pretty reliably in closer ranges and was because of this very effective in close combat, they used them a lot in Stalingrad. They were too heave to use out in the fields though.
@knechtor56489 жыл бұрын
bami2 I know, but i meant the modern application of Bodyarmour.
@dimitri-petrenko9 жыл бұрын
bami2 irrelavant comment... obviously we are talking about modern combat in which you would not often see bodyarmour which makes that the more interesting...
@Brunhemoth7 жыл бұрын
so I'm looking at world war 1 videos and such after purchasing battlefield 1 and doing research for the sake of enjoying history...and find a comment from one of Bubblegum Gun and Pepito Flores' anime shitpost friends having a regular discussion about history. whatta ya know
@hansmueller30293 жыл бұрын
Love old body armor. Many times they had a proofing shot in them. With the radial shape of the brow plate it would have been effective
@fiendishrabbit82593 жыл бұрын
The armor was almost exclusively for MG gunners, but the helmet attachment was a part of the original design and used by not only MG gunners but also anyone that was expected to poke their head above the trench more than your average soldier (sentinels, spotters etc), although as the war went on and trench weaponry became deadlier and deadlier the trenchscope became the preferred way of keeping an eye on the frontline.
@cerocero28176 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! Welcome back, I'm Ian LaSpina...
@jasonarmstrong57509 жыл бұрын
it's amazing to see how far we've come in terms of personal armor
@davemartino49538 жыл бұрын
Jason Armstrong haha yeah we're at the same exact spot basically xD
@aaronleverton42214 жыл бұрын
At least Ned Kelly's helmet protected his face as well.
@daer21219 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I've always wanted a better look at that armor, and never found any good pictures or videos of it.
@notsureyou3 жыл бұрын
Maybe this needs to a part 2, where they go to demolition ranch to see how effective it is :-)
@Zoydian5 жыл бұрын
Those WWI Stahlhelms were so cool!
@PaulA-fp3vs5 жыл бұрын
It looks like a Spanish Conquistador ended up fighting for the kaiser.
@soloagent479 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian for your videos. Really enjoy history
@rednecksniper47157 жыл бұрын
Do u think u have enough Lugers
@haroldbalzac68943 жыл бұрын
No such thing
@jimzo19857 жыл бұрын
My great grandad wore chainmail for trench clearing in WW1 he was in the Durham light infantry and survived the whole war from the very start fighting till 1918 when he was hit with shrapnell and sent home .
@JohnDoe-on6ru6 жыл бұрын
What kind of chainmail was it?
@epaybe4 жыл бұрын
I remember everyone giving Battlefield 1 crap for having this in the game for being "unrealistic"
@professional_cynic983 жыл бұрын
It's not that the historical accuracy that the armour was used but its effectiveness.
@Getoffmylawnbrit3 жыл бұрын
But the dude who wore it was from Italy and it was way more armor than these two pieces. AND he also took rifle shots point blank. (In the campaign for how short it was)
@antondemeyer7773 жыл бұрын
And then Bf V arrived and everyone started thinking that Bf 1 was accurate weirdly enough xD
@jameskosusnik11023 жыл бұрын
@@antondemeyer777 no no, nobody thought that...
@singleproppilot3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who plays any of the Battlefield series and expects realism is going to be sorely disappointed.
@johnperrotto649 жыл бұрын
Mystery solved! I had always wondered why German helmets (WW1 & WW2 era) had those 2 distinctive nubs. Thanks Ian!
@lordhood1176 жыл бұрын
A Kriegsman on Holy Terra? Oof. My sympathies. You must be miserable!
@MidnightSvn5 жыл бұрын
It is better to be miserable for the emperor than miserable for yourself!
@silmarian7 жыл бұрын
Best intro ever. A+++ would watch again.
@deptusmechanikus73624 жыл бұрын
That brow armor might stop a rifle bullet, but the impact will most likely break wearer's neck regardless
@frostedbutts43403 жыл бұрын
This is complete bullshit and an urban legend.
@OperatorMax19933 жыл бұрын
that's a lie first off all, since the brow armor is so heavy in the front, it probably is able to catch and reduce the whiplash (inertia)
@PumpActionProphet9 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Ian for another great informative video.
@Blackwolf-of5kx5 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be honest I laughed when I saw His face in the helmet
@arbhall75729 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video. Love this stuff Ian. Thank you so much for all your obvious passion and hard work.
@MegaFloyd1008 жыл бұрын
'artillery killed more people in ww1 than rifles by 'a long shot'''.no pun intended..
@hadiissa28972 жыл бұрын
Nobody talks about this, it really saved (and took) a lot of lives.
@InsanoBinLooney9 жыл бұрын
imagine catching a .303 on that skull cap..........
@MrOlgrumpy5 жыл бұрын
Make the ears ring fo sho
@michaelkeha5 жыл бұрын
That would fuckin suck but you would be alive
@msharmall72985 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkeha Probably, probably
@MartinTraXAA4 жыл бұрын
@Simo Only if the recoil of the weapon would have broken your neck as well.
@captainoblivious_yt3 жыл бұрын
@@MartinTraXAA Considering it's very frontheavy, that will probably stop some of the whiplash.
@TPeters3218 жыл бұрын
that armor is unimaginably rare. I doubt most people realize how incredibly rare that armor is. especially in that condition.
@shockwavecity8 жыл бұрын
I think perhaps this armor was made for someone with a much wider chest than ian.
@jonathanwells2234 жыл бұрын
A barrel-chested German machinegunner who had to carry all his equipment would have been the first choice
@jimofthejungle023 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwells223 almost certainly named Gunther or Wolfgang
@lucacaruso7963 жыл бұрын
The company was called Krupp and its headquarters were in the German city of Essen.
@munkSWE889 жыл бұрын
Do they have a german snipers mask from ww1 there at RIA.
@Zwijneveld9 жыл бұрын
I normally don't comment on videos, but I just wanted to tell you that I love you, Ian. I really love you.
@LDZMarder5 жыл бұрын
also protects from the stibety stabs.
@kellychuang83739 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine trying to go through WWI battles in that. It must've been HELL! Then again the alternative wasn't any better like all of WWI.
@maticstudios4 жыл бұрын
Very similar to the Ned Kelly armor.
@michaels53688 жыл бұрын
Ian, I love your videos. But if you have any humor in them, it has been lost on me. However, I was cracking up 30 seconds into this one. Actually LOLing. Your dry delivery was perfect. "Can I just get some grenades?" Bravo sir, for another excellent, informative video.
@jagdtype52688 жыл бұрын
is that a wall of lugers? awesome i want one
@Brainreaver794 жыл бұрын
that manufacturer mark is the symbol of the Krupp Company located in Essen a City near Düsseldorf in Northrhine-Wesfalia. The Symbol is still part of the logo of Thyssen-Krupp after the fusion of the 2 companies
@sebastianmezzanatto50565 жыл бұрын
I think that’s called a gorget. The thing for the throat.
@dynamicworlds15 жыл бұрын
A gorget is a seperate piece of armor worn around the throat, not something built into the breastplate. It fills much the same role and there were some earlier breastplates with comperable features, but they're not the same thing.
@Mackinstyle3 жыл бұрын
I've heard people explain why plate armour stopped making sense, but just 15 seconds of the beginning of this video showed me more than I could ever be told.
@Six_slotted Жыл бұрын
well it stopped working because full power rifle cartridges were widely used now that intermediete cartridges are used there are plenty of soldiers on the frontline in ukraine rn using steel plate even if they would prefer ceramic
@mikkel68257 жыл бұрын
How many po8's does one need? (Look inside the shelves in the background)
@GatCat10 ай бұрын
That opening was great!
@vguyver29 жыл бұрын
Thoughts: Helmet reminds me of Hitler's hat, it had similar thick steel plates hidden under his oversized hat. This helmet guard might of inspired it. Am a little surprised the chest plate wasn't as rounded out to deflect bullets. But still well thought out with that net guard. This suddenly threw me back to the armor used Ned Kelly used. It had proved to be surprisingly effective against large caliber weapons before he was captured.
@ice9tom9 жыл бұрын
What do you know? A smart gun curator... Love the videos. Keep up the good work.
@thedude58059 жыл бұрын
how much does it weight?
@ForgottenWeapons9 жыл бұрын
noone There was some variation between different models, but they were between 19 and 24 pounds. The reproduction set I have is right at 20.
@GrOuNdZeRo77779 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons compared to modern armor...Not too horrible...I think our IBA body armor in the Army weighed 40lbs plus helmet, rifle and our pack...Something like that would be interesting in AR500 lol...
@breadman323989 жыл бұрын
GrOuNdZeRo7777 if that were made in ar500 or even better 650 i could see it still being very useful for gunners on vehicles or something like that.
@HistoryGe3k5 жыл бұрын
Ned Kelly thought of body Armour against rifle fire before the Germans or the British. His Armour covered his front, back, and head. The Armour only failed because his legs were exposed and he tried to fight the police in the open. He walked through their rifle fire as if it did not exist. He was taken down because they kept shooting his legs until he collapsed.
@tobiashagstrom41686 жыл бұрын
If you only armor the front of your troops, I guess that will act as a deterrent form them turning to run.
@NiEmPo2133 жыл бұрын
Now I finally know what these "Frankenstein screws" on the helmet were for, thanks for that! 🙂
@maxasplund34743 жыл бұрын
The "screws" are actually just vents for the helmet. The attachable helmet plate was made way later andis called the "stirnpanzer" and was designed to attach to the helmets vents.
@alswann27025 жыл бұрын
That'll stop those pesky lancers. And if that arrogant Prussian captain challenges me to a saber dual #!@%#!!
@VincentNajger13 жыл бұрын
ARMOURED NIPPLES!!!! I love how the makers made sure that nipples saftey was of the highest priority and took steps to address the armouring of this super important area with the highest protection that is practicable. It would have been a real soul balm knowing that you are protected with an extra bit of armour over the spots in question.
@henriqueribeiro81673 жыл бұрын
I think the niples are the rivets for the straps that hold the smaller plates. So not only you get extra nipple armor, it's an integral part of the design.. Just brilliant!
@frankdantuono25949 жыл бұрын
So Ian is the Tin Man and Karl is the Cowardly Lion (no offense Karl), but who is the Scarecrow?
@radfatdaddy41695 жыл бұрын
The viewer
@thatfriggingbathroom26565 жыл бұрын
hickock
@MyMRT19 жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for nice videos. For me the best gun videos on youtube. You have a nice voice and it's easy listening to you. Greatings from Sweden. /Per
@ForgottenWeapons9 жыл бұрын
MyMRT1 Thanks!
@ezioauditore50286 жыл бұрын
Genial Germans! !
@BAdventures9 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the German “Sappenpanzer Gesichtsmaske” armoured faceplate or snipers mask. Interesting developments of body armour.
@ThePerfectRed7 жыл бұрын
Don't make too much of a joke out of this. Using armor at all in a modern war was a completely new concept and nobody knew were it would end. All nations at war tried out concepts until, over time, the more practicable usages would evolve.
@hauptmj16343 жыл бұрын
The three interlocking rings are the company logo of Krupp, the arms company that also built alot of german artillery and invented the train wheels used on the first pacific railway.
@adamfoye96249 жыл бұрын
i'd go into a trench with that armor and two lugers or a trench gun screaming FOR GERMANY AND FOR THE KAISER!
@iikkuowo67359 жыл бұрын
+adam foye and then fireing them both off simultanously as the you get hit but nothing can pen you but eventually someone manages it and you fall to the ground as you pull the triger of both lugers for the last time, it suddenly goes slowmo you can see the catridges slowly dropping down into the dust reflecting the sun of the light as you drop on the floor, the foe that just hit you landing next to you. the camera zooms out and goes black. do you mean like that?
@blueonblack838 жыл бұрын
+Freya Valentine That imagery needs John Woo's white doves taking flight, as he dives into the trench with dual Lugers, shooting six Frenchmen before landing in mud.
@iwillnotcomply20023 жыл бұрын
Wow mate u come out with the best well done. Like to see more of the great war and the trench life.
@danieldeak91418 жыл бұрын
lol the earliest star wars stormtrooper armor
@dustypluskrat74236 жыл бұрын
Dániel Deák funny enough the term stormtrooper was coined during WWI because of the shock troopers of the German Army.
@micromoron33097 жыл бұрын
In my opinion some of the coolest weapons came WW1 & WW2.
@JackSteadlan9 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't shrapnel from shells have an equal chance of coming from any direction so armouring only the front would be pointless?
@ForgottenWeapons9 жыл бұрын
+Clueless Nitwiticus Bullets tend to all come from the same direction though.
@Rhys41901119 жыл бұрын
+Clueless Nitwiticus it would be useless. but the Germans where innovators every one copy's them or learns from there mistakes. I know they use steel plate in armor now about the same thickness like AR500. but i don't know how they make them, i don't think there straight steel like they say.
@Geroskop9 жыл бұрын
+Rhys4190111 it's powder pressure welded steel, the only way to incorporate heavy and lighter elements together as a compound. very hard shit.........
@paullytle49439 жыл бұрын
well they would have a large Mound of dirt behind them from the digging of the trench
@trishooty45138 жыл бұрын
+Clueless Nitwiticus It would be pointless... Unless the shrapnel was coming at you from the front.. That is 50-50 chance of shrapnel injury.. I'll take that over 100% chance of shrapnel
@BloodSoilandSoul3 жыл бұрын
That's one of the best thumbnails youtube has ever seen.
@NormanMatchem9 жыл бұрын
That stuff (minus the extra plate on the helmet) would have been the cat's ass... about 600 years ago... as long as nobody on the other side had arquebuses.
@Kacpa26 жыл бұрын
Nah. Armour from the past is far better to wear.....isnt heavy and doesnt restrict your movement(there were cutouts to shoulder the weapons.) and rested on the waist which makes them really light on the wearer(and they werent as thick as this on). This german one is much heavier and thocker and hangs from shoulders.....which is a terrible design
@johnw10783 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid Ian, thanks. BTW you have a whistling snot @ 5:00
@manictiger9 жыл бұрын
WWI snipers started loading bullets backwards in their cases to punch through metal plates. I'm pretty certain the poor sap wearing this stuff would not want to get hit by one of those.
@abeedhal65199 жыл бұрын
manictiger source?
@manictiger9 жыл бұрын
Nack Jicholson I spent 5 seconds typing: "ww1 sniper backwards bullet" into Google. You should try that. And yes, it is dangerous and did sometimes backfire; but it was a thing both sides did in WW1. They eventually made specialized overpressure rounds with steel-cores which were slightly safer and more effective.
@iikkuowo67359 жыл бұрын
+VERY NIIICE they actually did that, especially against tanks early on as they didnt had any other means to fight them, the thing about it was that it was very dangerous and could if you were unlucky kill you instead
@biscuitbeef40624 жыл бұрын
Ian looks like Don Quixote in this.
@sambroman5438 жыл бұрын
Battlefield 1 armor confirmed
@Spongeyfrog8 жыл бұрын
+Hassiri the khajiit Trying to find out what the armour is in the trailer as well lol.
@harak588 жыл бұрын
+TheSpongeyFrog I can't speak for the whole armor set (probably fantasy), however his helmet is reminiscent of a sniper mask.
@theswissnavy28018 жыл бұрын
+TheSpongeyFrog just Google ww1 armor, that knight armor was real it was a design for arm armor
@warsaw37845 жыл бұрын
not only are you buying very good antiques, your buying ians finger prints
@Sirees3339 жыл бұрын
indeed, the bullet might be stopped by the helmet and save the person wearing it from a head shot, but, it was useless. It was so as knock back from a bullet hitting the armor plating on the helmet was so intensive that in most cases it broke the neck of the soldier wearing it. if i remember correctly, in some armies they even called them "death cap" or something like that
@kokofan509 жыл бұрын
Sirees333 That sounds dubious, at best.
@Sirees3339 жыл бұрын
kokofan50 it may sound like but that's the truth. consider the weigh of the armor addon and the amount of kinetic force on the bullet impact. humans neck doesn't have enough strength in most cases to sustain that amount of power
@Sirees3339 жыл бұрын
Emanicas well... problems do not really paint the full picture =DD if your lucky - you get knocked out by the kinetic blast, if not a broken neck
@gark649 жыл бұрын
Sirees333 the weight of the helmet would counteract the strike of the bullet, not enhance it. That's physics.
@kokofan509 жыл бұрын
Sirees333 Bullets don't have that much kinetic energy. People can punch and kick with more force than bullets. What makes bullets so dangerous is that the energy is concentrated into a small area.
@PoLoMoTo28 жыл бұрын
That intro was fan damn tastic....
@nosaltiesandrooshere74884 жыл бұрын
👍 hervorragend, dankeschön!
@royroblox2 жыл бұрын
We’re so accustomed to the image of a classic jousting helmet that I assumed the helmet plate rotated downwards to protect the face. Very interesting that it really just is a solid thickness adder to the forehead and not some articulating piece, but it makes sense.
@andreaswetzel44575 жыл бұрын
As I suspect from all the markings on German elevators, these interlocking circles are the Krupp manufacturers mark. Today it is named Thyssen-Krupp and has a bow above three interlocking circles. As the bow is the Thyssen manufacturers mark, the circles are Krupp.
@onsquare3rd5379 жыл бұрын
Ian I have to say it brother, I love your video;s, I live in the UK and we don't get to own the stuff you guys do, It's great to see all the historic weapons. Regards Cliff