GERMANIC: OLD ENGLISH & OLD HIGH GERMAN

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[@axisboss1654]

It’s amazing how similar English and German used to be and how both changed over the last 1000 years

[@cheerful_crop_circle]

Even in their current forms , they are still 60% lexically similar

[@axisboss1654]

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[@cheerful_crop_circle]

@@axisboss1654 BTW, there is a very rare consonant cluster and it is "sht". It exists like a letter in the Bulgarian language like "Щ" and it appears often. It also appears in the English word "shtick". Do you know languages that have this cluster pretty often in their words?

[@axisboss1654]

@@cheerful_crop_circle That’s not that rare

[@cheerful_crop_circle]

@@axisboss1654 It is very rare actually. I dont hear it much in other languages. Even other Slavic languages have that cluster way way less than my language. My language has this cluster more or less often. Italian for example doesn't even have this cluster at all. I think German has this cluster but it still appears way less than in my language

[@doktorlehar]

Fascinating. Old High German is still partly intelligible to anyone who speaks modern German, but you can’t say the same for English and Old English.

[@CinCee-]

There's no Norman influence on Old English. Modern English is heavily influenced by Norman French

[@Ssj4vegeta212]

It is party intelligible. Some of the words are fairly the same... like the words for guilt and today. And lead. Our father, heaven... fæder ure = our father.

[@Ssj4vegeta212]

Even hallowed has the same root word as gehalgod

[@philomelodia]

Blame the French.

[@David-ru8xf]

@@Ssj4vegeta212👌

[@222TK]

🔆🔅Old Saxon, Old Anglo-Saxon, and Old High German are all different stages of the Old Germanic language, which was spoken in Central and Western Europe between the 5th and 12th centuries. These three linguistic variants are related and have a common origin, but they also have significant differences. Old Saxon was spoken in the region of Saxony in present-day Germany and was one of the main variants of West Germanic. Old Anglo-Saxon, in turn, was spoken in England, especially in the regions of Anglia, Saxony and Jutland. Both variants are linguistically close and share many common elements and words. High German was spoken in areas of what is now Germany, Austria and Switzerland, among others. It is considered an offshoot of West Germanic, but had a separate evolution from Old Saxon and Anglo-Saxon, mainly due to Latin influences. It is important to emphasize that these linguistic variants evolved over time and gave rise to different modern languages. Old Saxon and Old Anglo-Saxon are considered to be ancestors of Low German and Angleish, respectively, while High German evolved into Modern German.🔆🔅

[@12tanuha21]

Old Saxon was spoken in the region of Low Saxony, not Saxony. Today Saxony became much later part of the Saxon land.

[@HyperBoreana-mf4ql]

old anglo-saxon was never spoken in saxony or jutland.

[@quamne]

i strongly believe old germanic languages to be the most beautiful languages out there

[@quamne]

@@Lampchuanungang get yourself together man

[@Lampchuanungang]

@@quamne Brother stop being sexist, you just admitted your taste and passion that is beautiful, stop being sexist, it was just a respectful compliment and a joke with you. This is not demerit, nor shame for you, you will not stop being a man for admitting your tastes and passions, accept your humanity that's all. Bye for this hour, here's the reflection 🪞 for you, good night. In another soon time we talk again ✌️🫂✈️✈️👋😉🤗

[@artiaslari5594]

Your definitly didnt heard of Italian , Spanish or Latin languages 😂

[@quamne]

@@artiaslari5594 true never heard of those. what's a spanish?

[@010VV]

📳🉑The sister languages of Old Norse are the other Germanic languages such as Old Anglo Saxon, Old German, Old Gothic and Old Frisian, Old Vandalic and Old Burgundian. These languages belong to the same linguistic group and share a common ancestry.🉑📳

[@patty30]

Thank you once again for all that you do. Very educational!

[@Lampchuanungang]

🌹💗✌️🥂

[@yerxdxd08]

First! Greetings from Spain! 🇪🇸

[@mcj87]

Love noticing the common roots of words that are still present today and how they diverged over time - e.g. great to see with the words for "guilt/guilty": "sculdi/sculdigon" and "(s)gyltas/(s)gyltendum" -> "Schuld" in German and "guilt" in English.

[@evangelosnikitopoulos]

Guilt is not derived from sculdi. That yielded a separate wird "shild" that existed into the Modern Era.

[@mysteriousDSF]

I love this channel more and more

[@Lampchuanungang]

We are two, both 💙🫂💛🥂🍻👍

[@michaeljcross87]

Very similar. I understood both very well.

[@philomelodia]

What is particularly fascinating about both of these languages is that they are attested to from around the same time period. This means that speakers of variants of these languages could have, and probably did, encounter each other from time to time. We cannot say the same about Gothic and we cannot say the same about old Norse. Gothic is attested two from about the fourth century. Old Norse is attested two from about the 14th century. Meanwhile, both old English and old high German are attested to from around the eighth century to the 11th. And, they are extremely close. They probably had a large degree of intelligibility.

[@pawel198812]

I would place Old Norse to about 1200, so closer to Middle High German

[@alareiks742]

Gothic attested from the 2nd (Runic script in Eastern Europe) to, precisely, 6th centuries (already in the Greek influenced Gothic alfabet). Old Norse spoked by the North Germanics from likely 5th to 13th centuries. So Gothic speakers could possibly contact Anglo-Saxons and the North tong speakers definitely contacted Old English and Old High German speaking area. You are not right.

[@12061988]

plz edit. It's "to" not "two and "form" not "from" and "around" not "about".

[@zeon_zaku]

Gunnlaugr Ormstungu is alleged to have claimed around the year 900AD, that he and the Anglo-Saxons spoke the same language. That is hard to corroborate necessarily for many reasons, however it seems to suggest, that he could at least recognize, that they were related languages.

[@NoThing-ec9km]

9 in the old English sounds familiar

[@VeryClearLanguages]

Very interesting comparison! Old English remained completely intact from the so-called High German consonant shift. An example: Old English -sċip Modern English -ship versus Old High German -skif Modern German -Schiff-. The final p became f.

[@lodewijkvandoornik3844]

​@Deywos-zs2sq How is this about OHG being more archaic than OE. Can you develop that?

[@wantydma212]

Old English is more easier to read, 'cause we don't have to memorize the pronounciation each word.

[@Xerxes370]

Yes, modern english is to much corrupted by french

[@dalubwikaan161]

​@@Xerxes370 and so as latin

[@RobbieStacks90]

That voiced velar fricative in Old English that sounds like a throat clearing sound will always be difficult for Modern English speakers to pronounce; however, we native English speakers can easily pronounce "th", a sound that Modern German speakers struggle to articulate, even though it existed in Old High German.

[@elsopapo9778]

Urne gadægh𐌓amlican hlaf syle us todæg

[@luckneh5330]

@@Xerxes370 french didn't really corrupt, but the great vowel shift caused a lot of problems and pronunciation is reflective of people not keep up spelling reforms and etymology.

[@Davlavi]

Very cool thanks.

[@cheerful_crop_circle]

Old English sounded like Italian at times

[@kaelani5710]

Can you do a video on the garífuna language versus the Taino language ❤

[@HerryNovri]

Funny thing, English and Low German once were in the same branch. While Dutch and High German were on the other branch. Then High German changed a lot that Dutch now look closer to the Low German. On the other hand, English also changed that much that now Dutch, Low German and High German are closer each other than they are to English.

[@Lampchuanungang]

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[@mysteriumvitae5338]

Wrong video.

[@lodewijkvandoornik3844]

​@@mysteriumvitae5338 Maybe he suggested this

[@BilingualLAB]

Wow, it’s AWESOME! May I ask you a question about the infinitives (both uninflected and to-) of Old English? I asked Chat GPT to translate the following sentences, and these are the result I got. Could you please check if these are reasonable especially in terms of infinitive and its usage? Thank you in advance. 1. I want to swim - Ic will swīman. 2. I go to swim - Ic gā̆ swīman. 3. I can swim - Ic cann swīman. 4. I have him swim - Ic hæbbe hine geswīmman. 5. I see him swim - Ic sēo hine swīman. 6. I help him swim - Ic helpe hine swīman.

[@sempreviva4564]

Old English hlaf for bread is surprisingly similar to the Russian hleb. Interesting.

[@gandolfthorstefn1780]

Hlaf is bread in Old English but also means 'loaf' as in the modern English 'loaf of bread'. So from a noun it has become an adjective. So modern loaf is like a package of bread sliced or uncut.

[@gandolfthorstefn1780]

Does hleb mean a package of bread in Russian as well as 🍞 bread?

[@sempreviva4564]

@@gandolfthorstefn1780 Thanks for the info! Hleb or хлеб in Cyrillic means bread in Russian as well as in many other Slavic languages. 🙂

[@user-vt3ig2bk4j]

The word _*xlěbъ_ was bowowed into Proto-Slavic from Germanic, more precisely from the Gothic word _hlaifs_ , or the Old High German word _hleib_ . Therefore the similarity to some modern Germanic words. In the Slavic South, especially in Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia they often say _kruh_ instead of hlěb, which comes from Proto-Slavic *kruxъ which originally meant "chunk".

[@MegaJellyNelly]

​@gandolfthorstefn1780 a loaf is still a noun

[@socha136]

Were I heard that first time I'm in impression, like a "roots" ;)))))))))) Greetings from Poznan (POLAND) City!!! ;p

[@Lampchuanungang]

👍🥂🍻

[@kawaiinoodels5516]

Could you make a video on Old Swedish?

[@MSS47Ag]

Old High German is easier to understand for a Dutch speaker. Old English sits closer to the Nordic variants.😊

[@MaoRatto]

As someone who is studying Swedish and German alongside others for different reasons. Swedish is MUCH EASIER TO UNDERSTAND than GERMAN.

[@BBeowulf]

Frisian is actually the closest language to old English

[@MaoRatto]

@@BBeowulf True, I view it that Old English had more contact with Nordic languages than Frisians, Dutch, and Germans did. So you have a lot of vocabulary words mirroring or identical to their Nordic counterparts, the syntax feel for middle English is weirdly closer to a nordic tongue while Frisian and Dutch feel closer, German did its own thing due to a consonant shift and birthed its own languages similar to high-german, but... Seeing the -sk suffix instead of the -sch or -sh hints should Frisian and English be considered North Sea Germanic tongues as they are branches that are more influenced by the Nordic brand It shocks me how different English is to Nordic tongues and West Germanic languages. It's clearly somewhat just weird.

[@everettduncan7543]

The Angles and Saxons were Ingvaeonic peoples, who came under heavier Norse influence even while in the continent than the Franks and various high German tribes.

[@jordanlake9819]

It's so interesting how if you compare Old High German and Old Norse, they're pretty far apart, but Old English shares similarities with both Old Norse and Old High German. Really gives insight to where they resided geographically.

[@MadhanBhavani]

Do you have an old English vs old Danish Norse comparison? If not, can you make one? Just to understand how the Vikings and English people in the Danelaw would've communicated.

[@hdjddihjdudd7618]

Search for Jackson Crawford-Conversation in Old English and Old Norse.The best example.

[@MadhanBhavani]

@@hdjddihjdudd7618 I've seen that one, it was great. I'm curious to see the numbers and the lord's prayer that way too.

[@hdjddihjdudd7618]

@@MadhanBhavani Search the Lords Prayer in West Saxon,Northumbrian,Mercian,Kentish dialects in comparision with Old Norse.

[@_rstcm]

Plz do Marathi and Konkani next.

[@enzoflores468]

Excuse me for my ignorance, but I have a question: in which order of appearance came between old norse, gothic, old high german and old english?

[@ansuzsociety]

🙏

[@TrimbakkiFonElsass]

I read/translate old Icelandic, and OHG is a lot more intelligible than old English to me.

[@David-ru8xf]

@@Nwk843 Old Norse broke Old English grammar, Norman French brought many loanwords instead grammar rules

[@lodewijkvandoornik3844]

​@@Nwk843here it is old English in the video. At that time English had no contact with French speaking Normands. Actually Old Norse contact broke English more than Old French. Old French brought words for the elite while the massive population kept the Germanic synonym till this day. Middle English big transformation was due to Old Norse.

[@richlisola1]

Really?

[@richlisola1]

I see so many recognizable words in Old English-Way more than Old High German

[@TrimbakkiFonElsass]

@@richlisola1 yes, but to be fair I have spent more time trying to read OHG. I have the book - A handbook on old high german literature, by J. Knight Bostock. It helped a lot. I am no where near proficient. But I can grasp more

[@jgrennmusic]

Can you do Welsh compared to English or Old English?

[@uygarcinar8005]

What's the point?

[@gandolfthorstefn1780]

Tolkien is the point.🎃💍

[@Nehauon]

I like old german sounds

[@soso694]

I can't really understand the Old English which is very surprising.

[@Lampchuanungang]

Normal, relax, only study anglo saxon as you study dutch, hipothetically.👍🍻. Don't force your own understanding.

[@David-ru8xf]

@@Lampchuanungang It's not the same

[@AEAG9YT_]

can you do a comparison between Azeri and Turkish

[@zuzufever]

There is already

[@AEAG9YT_]

@@zuzufever link it?

[@amjan]

They're too similar.

[@VajiraPholvamsa]

look into the Turkic playlist in the video section.

[@Cooker-D_TX4]

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[@Rasytojas1980]

Lithuanian Mums = us Gyltas - kaltes Yous - jus

[@altheamantes2041]

An Twin Tri Flour Fifth/fee/feet 6 Seaboard/sefen Octa Niun/noun 💀 Teeth

[@alphonso7170]

Old High German sounds a lot like the language of the Moscow Orthodox in Russia.

[@ahmadsantoso9712]

If there is Old English and Old High German, then there must be Young English and Young Low German.

[@Nintentoni]

That's the languages we speak today

[@user-ur7ov6uw2k]

If you listen to Old English, you will find that the history of Britain being occupied by the Roman Empire is not a lie.

[@arashk4650]

aryan people🥰

[@TheReal_GMan]

Indo-Iranian/Indo-Aryan?

[@arashk4650]

@@TheReal_GMan im from iran brother

[@attaueiehehdhsjwksodndhh4980]

First

[@dalubwikaan161]

Do Polari or other queer languages

[@chanalex8358]

I wonder , Could British people read and understand old English ?

[@gtc239]

No lol.

[@Patrickbatemanharvard]

Modern German and dutch speakers can understand old english better than the brits

[@RandomBloke007]

I could, but I speak German as well 😂

[@sentboumaster3436]

I am a Dutch from northern part, I can easily understand Old English though

[@David-ru8xf]

@@Patrickbatemanharvard Not at all

[@grauwolf1604]

There is no old "high" German. "High" German has been invented mainly by Martin Luther's translation of the bible.