The Cuteness of Details in Wolfenstein 3D

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GermanPeter

GermanPeter

Күн бұрын

Wolfenstein 3D is known for many things, just not its level design. But is that really true, or do these maps have their own quality to them? YES.
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@amydoesart3724
@amydoesart3724 11 ай бұрын
One of the coolest things about brutal wolfestein is that they actually expand the detail, rooms that looked vaguely like a Kitchen really looks like a kitchen, caves like caves and etc, really helps to make the world feel more alive
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
Oh, I never noticed that! That's really cool!
@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903
@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 11 ай бұрын
Zio went balls out with the last few level updates. Spear of Destiny now has a fully fledged Hell level that looks straight out of Extermination Day
@amydoesart3724
@amydoesart3724 11 ай бұрын
@@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 exacly! And he even changed some things on older levels to make everything about the same level of detail, It was unironically great to play the spear of destiny update 100%
@LILAC_CHAOS
@LILAC_CHAOS 11 ай бұрын
Brutal Wolfenstein will always hold a close place in my heart.
@ziomccall4085
@ziomccall4085 11 ай бұрын
@@LILAC_CHAOS Nice to hear.
@shinyagumon7015
@shinyagumon7015 11 ай бұрын
Those details are rather cute, and it's really cool how the developers (especially Tom) tried to make the most of it even with their limited tools.
@ShallowVA
@ShallowVA 11 ай бұрын
I’ve always been really charmed by Tom Hall’s insistence on storytelling in such a primitive era.
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
The thought he put into all of his worlds, like his ideas for Doom 1, is nothing short of incredible. And that was in an era when story in games was considered like story in pornos. Really curious what Doom and even Quake might have been like if he had stayed with id and they had actually implemented his ideas.
@Yingxera
@Yingxera 11 ай бұрын
I used to play this game a ton when I was much younger, but always from the start. I don't remember any levels in any real specifics, but I really adore the starting room of the first level. It immediately sets the tone by tossing prisons, piles of bones, whole skeletons and guard dogs at you in a very claustrophobic, brick environment. It's really neat.
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I think the first episode is the best when it comes to setting a certain mood, and the first level especially. I think it's honestly the most "realistic" level in the entire game. The others more often than not feel like the designers wanted to get the best gameplay, while that one is fine with having tons of dead ends and long hallways that the player doesn't even need to go down. And that's what also adds a lot of replay value, kind of like the first level of RTCW (which I replayed a ton as a kid after obtaining the game's demo).
@Yingxera
@Yingxera 11 ай бұрын
@@GermanPeter Oh for sure. I did try and actually play through RTCW some years ago and found out I always stopped playing right before dropping into the crypts when I was younger. The first few levels where you are sneaking around in the castle were so fun to go through, over and over again :)
@Scypek
@Scypek 11 ай бұрын
@@GermanPeter It's interesting to open episode 1 in the editor and see how hard Tom Hall tried to squeeze as much exploration into a 64x64 tile area as possible. It's also interesting to check the prototype levels in The Cutting Room Floor wiki - some of those E1 levels used to be vastly bigger before getting trimmed down to a more sensible size...
@user-zm4ro7yh4e
@user-zm4ro7yh4e 11 ай бұрын
Kinda reminds of playing early Minecraft, where you only had to do with the like, 18 blocks it had. Bookshelves were spice racks, iron blocks were sinks and stoves and without signs you really had to imagine what the creator was going for with each room.
@Dosgamert
@Dosgamert 11 ай бұрын
The Pacman ghosts in E3M10 were cute! 🎉
@Pacman009
@Pacman009 12 күн бұрын
Yes.
@masterofbloopers
@masterofbloopers 11 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever heard "cuteness" and "Wolfenstein" in the same sentence before. Can't wait for the Wolf '09 video!
@jeffyp2483
@jeffyp2483 11 ай бұрын
i had, upon seeing the title, a similar thought
@uberpwner48
@uberpwner48 11 ай бұрын
I've never seen "Cuteness" and "Wolfenstein" used in the same sentence, myself. Then again, there were the Pac-Man Ghosts.
@spartanseth7392
@spartanseth7392 11 ай бұрын
7:32 reminds me of how cartoonishly evil the raiders are in Bethesda fallouts. Heads on spikes, bags of gore, corpses impaled more than in Vlad the Impalers wet dream… all next to their sleeping mats and campfires cooking cans of beans.
@henryfreeman1256
@henryfreeman1256 6 ай бұрын
Another thing I noticed about E2L9: The secret area with all the ammo has a chaingun. Maybe Schabbs was planning on making another Ubermutant?
@lilwyvern4
@lilwyvern4 5 ай бұрын
The even earlier Catacomb Abyss/Apocalypse/Armageddon games had even less detail to work with, but they included little text descriptions of areas on the status bar. This included things like "Entrance to the tomb" when starting a level, "meditation chamber" for a small one-tile room with just a wizard monster in it, or hints that destructible walls were crumbling or drafty. I always liked that about the game.
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 5 ай бұрын
That sounds sick! Kind of reminds me of how Doom was initially meant to have the other player characters communicate with each other via messages in the HUD.
@BusyMEOW
@BusyMEOW 6 ай бұрын
The plants in the corners aren't just window dressing for the player, they're placed there by the P-babies to make the cold castle environment feel more homely and pleasant
@CherryPixelBun
@CherryPixelBun 11 ай бұрын
One thing the Catacombs Trilogy by Softdisk did amazingly was making rooms stick out, both by naming the different sections and through decor. There's a LOT of assets that are made unique to specific levels and you can tell the devs actually wanted to convey locations the best they could in an engine that was literally a prototype to Wolf3D. Softdisk wanted to make the Catacombs Adventures feel like an adventure. It really contrasts with the Catacombs 3D that id made where there's no effort to really landmark areas on the maps beyond the bread crumb trails players leave behind. It really was just First Person Gauntlet
@ninjapants7688
@ninjapants7688 11 ай бұрын
I love that you are keeping the "Peebaby" name for them.
@TheTrueCallen151
@TheTrueCallen151 11 ай бұрын
It's amazing how much more unique Blake Stone: Aliens of Gold ended up being, rooms and levels had that uniqueness that Wolf3D lacked.
@victorvance2573
@victorvance2573 11 ай бұрын
I´m glad someone mentions the Blake Stone games. They are often quite a bit overlooked although they were amazing!
@edgardeitz2784
@edgardeitz2784 11 ай бұрын
Yes, Blake Stone was far above Wolf 3D; it's a shame Blake got overshadowed (shipped just ONE week _before_ DooM!...)...
@roadkill_52
@roadkill_52 5 ай бұрын
There's also Corridor 7, I love that one!
@lancebaylis3169
@lancebaylis3169 5 ай бұрын
Playing this game at the time it came out, it was always pretty easy to see these little details, and where the devs were adding that little bit of character. There's a section in E1M3 (I think lol) where there's a large dining hall room with tables and chairs, and behind that is another seperate room with stoves, pots and pans, etc, which is evidently a kitchen. The dining hall is full of officers of the higher class, and the kitchens have brownshirts in them, indicating the social hierarchy. Really clever stuff.
@TeaAndTankControls
@TeaAndTankControls 6 ай бұрын
The charm of old games is that we really did have to use our imagination to see the story in them. Wolfenstein 3D and other "primitive" games deserve more love.
@tovarisch3490
@tovarisch3490 11 ай бұрын
A theory I once heard about the mutants involved them having green uniforms and suggesting they were allied soldiers.
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
I remember that too, and I think it was even confirmed somewhere in the game.
@tovarisch3490
@tovarisch3490 11 ай бұрын
@@GermanPeter Where?
@DiolodN
@DiolodN 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting video ! I was actually thinking about some of these details while playing the game as a kid...thanks for the video :)
@shrugsmemes917
@shrugsmemes917 5 ай бұрын
the one thing that you wouldn't expect is ''cute'' and ''wolfenstein'' to be in the same sentence...but it's amazing how life surprises you. these are neat!
@andrasmolnar8867
@andrasmolnar8867 7 ай бұрын
It was such a relief to watch this video. It's so easy to mock old games for failing to showcase graphic craftsmanship or good storytelling. It's harder to see the fine details that add an invaluable charm to them that make them memorable. It was really entertaining to see Wolf 3-D from this angle.
@Mech4
@Mech4 11 ай бұрын
Catacomb 3D does this in a way. Different areas of the level have titles that show up on your HUD. So one room will be "The Chamber of Terror" while another will be "The Gravekeepers Shack" and so on.
@aurorafox1283
@aurorafox1283 11 ай бұрын
I never won wolfenstein3D normally, i finished by BrutalWolfenstein mod for doom, but i knew that Wolfenstein3D didnt had many textures as BrutalWolfenstein so every episode i saw in BW was actually distinct from eachother unlike in original W3D. But i remember playing classic and it was a little better than BW because soldiers dont throw grenades, no flame throopers hidden in dark mazes so it was easier to explore. Btw one thing about wolfenstein level design that i hate is secrets, a lot of secrets most of the time impossible to find unless u spend an hour checking every wall
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, Wolfenstein 3D may have introduced the ideas of secrets in FPS games, but they SUUUUCK. It's actually incredible, checking for secrets legitimately doubles your playtime :D Levels are insanely short otherwise, maybe like 5 minutes tops at times. When I replay the game casually, I just skip them. What I did last time was use online maps after finding the exit and just getting all the secrets that way. So I didn't technically cheat, I just saved a bunch of time :P
@aurorafox1283
@aurorafox1283 11 ай бұрын
@@GermanPeter The worst part is when u search for only one secret on a giant map without using internet. It was moment i just skipped it. Even if I check online i dont wanna backtrack that labirynth hah
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
6-1 is the worst in that regard. Even if you know where the secret is, you have to go aaaaall the way to the end to get the key, then aaaaaall the way back to unlock the door, and then aaaaaall the way to the end again. God, what a miserable episode.
@wariofan-wq6fr
@wariofan-wq6fr 9 ай бұрын
@@GermanPeter Even worse is when the secrets block you off from eachother, worst example being one of the middle levels in episode 4, where enemies will walk through a locked door that you cant go thorugh unless you killed one of these enemies inside the door itself. Not only did the devs put the required key BEHIND A SECRET WALL, but they also put an additional secret wall near the same area that literally only exists to softlock you from the key, so if you saved afterwards then you're screwed. That entire level's first portion is so poorly designed. 6-1's beginning is also terrible, with the ridiculous blue hallways filled with Officers in nearly every corner (one of many level design sins that Episode 6, my least favorite Episode, commits).
@todesziege
@todesziege Ай бұрын
The level design of Wolf 3D is absolutely underrated. Compare it to other pre-Doom FPS games, whose levels are often the literal mazes Wolfenstein's are accused to be, and the difference is notable. Also, I think the impression of these old games is often hurt by running in higher-than-intended resolutions through sourceports or hacks. Like with the "skybox" you mentioned, this will often (somewhat unintuitively) work to _destroy_ detail rather than enhance it, and make the levels more unintelligible than they would be normally.
@matthewsteele99
@matthewsteele99 11 ай бұрын
Peter I recommend you check out mods for this game, especially popular ones like Spear Resurrection and Operation Letzterschutz, as well as Project Eisenritter, Castle Totenkopf, Operation Heimzahlung, and Coming of the Storm (there's more but these are some of the well known ones)
@Scypek
@Scypek 11 ай бұрын
Wolf3d modding community really deserves more recognition. Going by classic FPS video essays, you'd think there are no Wolf3D mods at all. It's funny and sad that even the devs don't have much love for it compared to Doom... when someone brought it up during the development of Sigil, John Romero said he'd die of boredom if he had to make more Wolf3d levels. SKILL. ISSUE.
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
Oh, I played a bunch in the past! I really liked Spear: End of Destiny and Unsung!
@Scypek
@Scypek 11 ай бұрын
@@GermanPeter I did too! Unsung did a really great job creating a distinct and immersive atmosphere. One of my favorite mods is AReyeP's Wolfendoom, although I ended up hacking it to replace the default wolf3d music with Doom's soundtrack to fit the mood better. Other than that though, it does a great job at creating a unique atmosphere despite utilizing no engine changes whatsoever. The levels feel considerably different from Wolf3D's, and not just by virtue of new graphics.
@matthewsteele99
@matthewsteele99 11 ай бұрын
@@GermanPeter return of destiny or end of destiny? Also there's Eisenfaust Origins and Eisenfaust Legacy, beautiful works of art
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine 8 ай бұрын
Totenkopf SDL Edition is one of my favorite Wolfenstein experiences. Great gameplay and very immersive for sticking with the 90 degree walls, the sound design is fantastic.
@plav867
@plav867 11 ай бұрын
Great Video Man
@repetitivethinking
@repetitivethinking 11 ай бұрын
recently got into this game, pretty cool!
@mirabilis
@mirabilis 2 ай бұрын
Weird how the enemies turn around as you turn around. Turning your head doesn't make people around you turn...
@SomeOrangeCat
@SomeOrangeCat 11 ай бұрын
It's a very fleshed out world, considering the hardware it was meant to run on was so modest.
@s.p.d.magentaranger1822
@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 11 ай бұрын
Ay, a That Trav Guy clip! Great KZbinr.
@Jenkinsmum
@Jenkinsmum 6 ай бұрын
What do you think the purpose of the pushwall maze in 2-8 was for? Was this solely to keep the Hans Grosse clone sealed and hidden or was it to hide the forbidden word Aardwolf?
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 6 ай бұрын
Since it's an easter egg, I'd say it's non-canon, i.e. it only exists for the player themselves. If I wanted to interpret it, I'd say it's a nightmare BJ was having. Maybe he passed out from something and imagined himself running through an endless maze, only to be confronted by someone he had just killed (or finding a completely nonsensical message).
@pixelsncreatures
@pixelsncreatures 11 ай бұрын
I was so into wolf 3d and I'm pretty sure I have every version except mac
@ConsarnitTokkori
@ConsarnitTokkori 11 ай бұрын
they're called the wolfenstain bears
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 6 ай бұрын
2:06 I like the implications here that the nazis are cannibals
@nifftbatuff676
@nifftbatuff676 6 ай бұрын
They should do a remake.
@SiFi270
@SiFi270 11 ай бұрын
For some reason, whenever I thought I was seeing details like this I ended up being off the mark in one way or another. For example, in 1-5 there's a large secret area filled with locked buildings. The first time I got there, I wondered if it would be some kind of prison for mutants, to reward secret-hunting shareware players with a taste of what awaits them in the registered episodes. But instead, it ended up being dogs, treasure, and other supplies. I also thought the blue ceiling in 2-10 was supposed to signify it took place on the roof and we were actually looking at the sky, but there are lights hanging from it, so it must simply be a blue ceiling. :|
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
The locked buildings also stood out to me. I think it's meant to be like some sort of secret warehouse area, since a lot of the rooms are full of treasure and ammo. As for the blue ceiling, I think it's meant to be the sky, the problem is just that you can't have only specific rooms with that color, so it gets shared across the whole map. I think it's meant to be the sky however, it makes little sense for it to just be a blue ceiling. Looks a bit odd in some places, but what can you do.
@PentaSquares
@PentaSquares 11 ай бұрын
I guess I can see it now
@lamelama22
@lamelama22 11 ай бұрын
"they didn't put effort into the levels..." Some of the mazes are insane on purpose.... and you should really look at the map layouts from overhead (they even had to censor the level designs for the SNES release).
@ChuckNorrisGOAT
@ChuckNorrisGOAT 8 ай бұрын
0:24 Uhm, actually, Wolfenstein 3D was not the first game in the series. it was a game on the Atari called "Castle Wolfenstein". 🤓
@aolmsn
@aolmsn 7 ай бұрын
*Commodore 64 🤓
@ChuckNorrisGOAT
@ChuckNorrisGOAT 6 ай бұрын
Well fuck me in my ass and call me Melissa. I've been out-nerded. Well played. @@aolmsn
@TheUplinkExperiment
@TheUplinkExperiment 22 күн бұрын
*Apple II
@cerulean3262
@cerulean3262 11 ай бұрын
didn't this guy make overtime?
@vaclives
@vaclives 11 ай бұрын
eyyy another episode
@GiovanniGiordano79
@GiovanniGiordano79 11 ай бұрын
nice!
@thegates-pearly
@thegates-pearly 11 ай бұрын
do soldier of fortune 1-3 BITTE BRUDER
@foxtrot_brainded9000
@foxtrot_brainded9000 11 ай бұрын
your a good creater I enjoy your content. idk what else to put here have a nice day
@RMJ1984
@RMJ1984 2 ай бұрын
The game would have benefitted from more textures and more texture variety.
@Scypek
@Scypek 11 ай бұрын
3:15 and then there's the room right next to this one...
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
I don't quite remember that one... what's in it?
@Scypek
@Scypek 11 ай бұрын
@@GermanPeter A whole lot of bones and a furnace.
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah... yikes.
@Rustoization
@Rustoization 7 ай бұрын
Could you dial down the inflection a little bit?
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 7 ай бұрын
No, but just because you said that, I'm going to dial it up even more.
@greenyyx
@greenyyx 11 ай бұрын
1:58 Wdym? That's just the casual unhygienic way pee-babies eat Great video as always :>
@th1v5
@th1v5 11 ай бұрын
guys look for mike hawk in the comments
@ToaGatanuva
@ToaGatanuva 6 ай бұрын
you've put more thought into the environmental storytelling in Wolfenstein than I have done in 10 years
@Bob_Beaky
@Bob_Beaky 10 ай бұрын
Using my imagination is the thing I enjoy most about old games. Today's graphical fidelity used in big budget games may look pretty but they lose their magic, in my opinion.
@billfingerdoodle
@billfingerdoodle 11 ай бұрын
nice
@TehEpicMike
@TehEpicMike 11 ай бұрын
Quirks of German Most Wanted when, Peter, WHEN?!??!?!?!??!!12
@CatsT.M
@CatsT.M 11 ай бұрын
Definetly..."cute".
@EZIZ.EXE.DVD34
@EZIZ.EXE.DVD34 11 ай бұрын
Hello German peter I need know gmod German version and half life mods his have censorship have good day Germanpeter ❤
@daintyfoal1981
@daintyfoal1981 11 ай бұрын
still not gonna mention the opening theme?
@Scypek
@Scypek 11 ай бұрын
You can't play wolf3d's title screen music on youtube, you might get copyright claimed by the nazi party.
@orvilleredenpiller338
@orvilleredenpiller338 11 ай бұрын
This game makes so much more sense if you think of it as "the last arcade game" than "the first FPS".
@robinkron1685
@robinkron1685 4 ай бұрын
Muted. Text so much better... Ni zhi dao..
@ezekiellevin5225
@ezekiellevin5225 11 ай бұрын
A
@nightmarezer0507
@nightmarezer0507 3 ай бұрын
>GERMANpeter >The Cuteness of Details in *Wolfenstein 3D* The German Police at his door: "Stop right there, criminal scum! Nobody breaks the law on my watch! I'm confiscating your stolen goods. Now pay your fine or it's off to jail."
@geroldgrimel4811
@geroldgrimel4811 11 ай бұрын
I clicked away. The voice is too ridiculously happy.
@remyrichardson8614
@remyrichardson8614 10 ай бұрын
Ok???
@handlessuck589
@handlessuck589 11 ай бұрын
legitimately can't stand boomer shooter "90% time spent lost and 10% shooting" level design
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
I'd argue that it's really only a problem in the last two episodes of Wolf 3D. The rest are often so incredible small and simply that getting lost isn't that easy.
@Irobert1115HD
@Irobert1115HD 11 ай бұрын
actually the first true FPS game is doom. wolfenstein 3d is actually a top down shooter where they played around with the grafiks to create a 3d effect hence why all the levels look the same.
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 11 ай бұрын
It's a shooter you play in first person, so it's an FPS. It literally makes no difference whether or not it's "true" 3D. Doom wasn't "true" 3D either, it just gave the illusion of verticality.
@Irobert1115HD
@Irobert1115HD 11 ай бұрын
@@GermanPeter doom had the better simulation. hence why doom has things like working stairs.
@A-W80
@A-W80 11 ай бұрын
@@Irobert1115HD You yourself just said it's a better simulation, it's the same system but just upgraded if Wolfenstein isn't a true fps, then neither can Doom since it's the same basic system (unless your claiming that the verticality makes it a true fps, in which case your being very arbitrary about where that line is set)
@Scypek
@Scypek 11 ай бұрын
@@A-W80 I don't care much for "true 3D", but the fact is that Doom's third dimension actually has an effect on gameplay mechanics, while in wolf3D the Z axis doesn't exist anywhere in the code outside of drawing sprites and textures.
@A-W80
@A-W80 11 ай бұрын
@@Scypek You can't look up or down in Doom, and rooms can't be placed on top of each other. they are both top-down games seen from a first-person perspective, it's a better illusion than Wolfenstein, but it's still an illusion. The simple fact is that if Wolfenstein isn't the first FPS, then Doom can't be either, you can't pick and choose just because one uses its style better.
@AgentInk
@AgentInk 11 ай бұрын
Hooray for censorship!
@powerdude_dk
@powerdude_dk 4 ай бұрын
sry, cant stand your voice. but propably a good video.
@Akrafena
@Akrafena 11 ай бұрын
Congrats on making Moving.wad
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