Vintage Heuer Vise Restoration

[@jblifeasitis895]

This Heuer vise is pure quality, just great to see, that it survived so many years

[@xxxmmm5942]

Nicely done. A comment on the function of that bolt. Being a stop is its secondary function. Its main function is to take up the slack and minimize the play on the moving jaw by tightening the sides as the machined surfaces wear over time. While assembling the vice you did not tighten it enough so the moving jaw has quite some play at the end of the video. The trademark of Heuer vices is rock solid moving jaw with virtually no play. Tightening is a bit of a trial and error but you'll figure it out. If too tight, it won't move so you will know when to stop !

[@Dr._Spamy]

On actual models the angle of this rail surfaces is much steeper (about 45°) so one don't need to tighten this cross bolt as much as on this old model, as this surfaces wear out. On this particular model the cross bolt seems to had slide on the bottom of the long hole instead, over a long time. Possible this vice was never readjusted or it had reached its limits in terms of readjustibility.

[@1musicsearcher]

Very nice. That’s ingenious how the two grooves and the balls keep the lead screw in place.

[@SOOONJE]

You did really great restoration work, I enjoyed watching the video very much, thank you so much for sharing

[@RESTORATIONOFSCRAPMETAL]

Cool project and Great job buddy

[@jimboxl]

Thanks for this video! I have the same and you helped me with getting it apart. Good job. Greetings from the Netherlands

[@tfa8]

great work and thanks for the nice in length video, enjoyed watching it!

[@thecynic807]

Why are there not any jaws

[@michaelpugh4894]

Cool vise and nice restoration.

[@chico8486]

Thank you very much for this video. great work

[@LukesAmateurHour]

This is really cool stuff! I love the new color you went with; almost the same blue that Channellock uses.

[@GenePavlovsky]

Great video, I think you covered every little detail. I got the same vise recently and am planning to rebuild it like you did. P.S. After seeing all the German tools you are using through the video, I was surprised to see a Makita drill/driver at then end :)

[@javierpallalorden]

Excellent video of a great vise. I have the newer model and it will last forever.

[@TheRumbman]

I restored one with 77mm jaws, made table clamp for it - just love it for house use! This is HEUER Primus model. I have another one - HEUER FRONT 140mm with rotary plate - love it too! Made for centuries.

[@robertmuller7277]

Ein sehr schönes Video. Es macht Spaß zu sehen, wie jemand anderes an die "Restaurierung" eines alten Brockhaus Heuer herangeht! Die hellblaue Farbe gefällt mir sehr gut, auch wenn ich es ein wenig gewagt finde. Ich mag es gerne nur gebürstet und geölt. Das sieht auch sehr schön aus und man erhält den klassischen Charme. Bei der "Restaurierung" meiner kleinen "Heuer Front" und "Heuer Primus"(?) Vorkriegs- Modelle habe ich herausgefunden, das sie sich immer noch spielfrei einstellen lassen. Besten Dank für´s Einstellen und natürlich einen "patriotischen" Gruß aus der "alten Welt".... : )

[@КошмарКошмар-й2б]

Very good restoration bro 👍👍👍👍

[@martinrohm5469]

Leinen make a rear jaw moving vise. nice restoration job on the heuer vise.

[@JimLBon]

Neat vise. Just bought a new 140mm Heuer. The quality/price of German tools can’t be beat today, if you know where to look.

[@thecynic807]

That is genius way to lock the scree with a bearings. Never saw that before. I'm doing a prentiss right now and it has the sleeve with a set screw thank god instead of the crown screw

[@kapitanXbomber1989]

Nice job!

[@dojcubic]

It looks beautiful now.

[@ScoutCrafter]

I totally prefer rear moving jaws... Great video!

[@literoadie3502]

I have a Schlegel EMF 125, similar to the Leinen and Boley vises. How's the FPU base going?

[@ScoutCrafter]

Lite Roadie - The EMF 125 is a sweet vise! Especially the older beefier castings! Looks like a bulldog! I can’t believe the jaw capacity on those vises! My FPU vise is scheduled for another attempt in January! 😃👍

[@GenePavlovsky]

Can you tell me why do you prefer the rear moving jaws? Would really like to know the reasons.

[@BestUserNameUK]

I notice you like Wera tools. Good choice.

[@thecynic807]

I've been using electrolysis and it works great and cheap too. I was wondering if combining electrolysis and that vibrating thing would be the absolute best way to clean up metal

[@jimronchetto8592]

I thought the jaws were taped and the tape was painted over. I have never seen anyone paint the jaws before. The paint color is similar to a Capri vise. Nice restoration.

[@ga9098]

Thank you for your video. Just 1 or 2 things... This vise deserved better than a refreshment and this colour. A wire wheel could do a better stripping.

[@MihaSun]

Heuer,Ursus,York,F.Z.A Italy,Gressel,Leinen are excelent vice

[@plannetgr]

best small size vise

[@garyjonson1872]

23:14 did you use any lubicant before you put the ball bearings in? you don't want dry balls. that would be nice to know...

[@GermanToolReviews]

Yeah I put some on the raceways before inserting the shaft.

[@lightningfun6486]

Heuer, gressel, old record, dawn, carter all the great vices of the world

[@chaddles623]

Nice, glad to see ya went with Heuer Blue on the color.

[@GermanToolReviews]

More like Hazet blue, but it was close enough! Heuer I think powder coats their vises now and they have a slightly darker blue.

[@chaddles623]

German Tool Reviews true, I know there are some cheap powder coating machines cheap now that work better than rattle can enamel. And I guess it will match your cantilever tool box and tool trolley

[@rientb8783]

Hello, i'm taking a part an old heuerfront bench vise, to clean it up and give it a new paint job. The problem is, i can't get the handle lose from the vise it self. Do you know how to do it?

[@GermanToolReviews]

You have to grind away one of the ends. The way they do it is they add a step on the shaft of the handle, put the ring on and then mushroom out the end using a press

[@rientb8783]

@@GermanToolReviews alright, thanks for your response👍

[@maxwelten5560]

I have the same vise. Mine has the 17mm head aswell and the hole is also threaded, so that seems to be original. My vise does not have the correct handle in it tho, it was replaced with a long bolt at one time. Could you please give me the dimensions of the handle so that I can complete my restoration of the vise. I have watched a lot of your videos over the time and I have enjoyed them, just wanted to say that. Greetings from The Netherlands.

[@GermanToolReviews]

I'll measure it when I get home, remind me if you don't hear from me in a couple of days. My memory was that it was a 12mm shaft with a 8mm step on the ends for the rings.

[@GermanToolReviews]

I measured the handle. The diameter of the shaft actually came out to 12.26 or almost exactly 1/2". Not sure if it was originally 13mm and wear has made in slightly smaller. The total length was around 200mm. The steps for the rings are 8mm. The Rings are 19mm outer diameter and about 6mm in height.

[@maxwelten5560]

Thank you very much for the information.

[@BlindBatG34]

Really nice job. How many times can you recycle the Evaporust?

[@GermanToolReviews]

The official word from the vendor is "until it stops working." I have found you can keep using it until it turns jet black.

[@frankblack1481]

Cool video, thanks. What was the brand of wrench you used to remove the bolt (03:02)? I like the smooth polished design.

[@GermanToolReviews]

That is an old Armstrong box end that I got from a collection of tools from Germany that were mostly SAE

[@frankblack1481]

German Tool Reviews Thanks. They looked a bit like (German) Elora ones I've seen on EBay.

[@frankblack1481]

German Tool Reviews www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/372104108314

[@yetanotherworldview]

The color looks a bit too blue for Field Grey. Could it be Luftwaffengrau RAL 7016? Greetings from Bavaria

[@MikesToolShed]

Minus the sitting times, how many man hours did you have in this project. Well done, glad you didnt go the "better than new" rout. It still looked old, just freshened up

[@GermanToolReviews]

Not as long as you would think, probably only 4 or 5 hours. It went surprisingly smoothly, didn't really need to make any repairs, mostly just a cleaning and derusting job.

[@girder123]

I wonder how it'd have looked if you had skipped the paint removal/derusting and just used the wirewheel

[@jr-nb6mj]

Hello. Do you have any opinion / tested on the german brand Stahlwille? After i found the Wera calender, i searched for different brands and saw that stahlwille sold one for 99 Euros (!). I saw their other offerings and theyre quite expensive compared to the wera/wiha. Also, im curios about Ratchet tool. Im fairly new to this, when/to what do i use this? Instead of a screwdriver for example. Is Wiha and Wera simular in quality? I have bought Wera only so far.

[@GermanToolReviews]

Stahlwille is a higher end brand compare to Wera/Wiha. Stahlwille specializes in tools for the aviation industry. I did actually get a Stahlwille advent calendar yesterday and will be posting some videos on that shortly. Wiha and Wera I would say are about the same quality.

[@thechuchy66]

nice , price?

[@jamjamamam4139]

Why did you paint the surface of the jaws?

[@GermanToolReviews]

The jaws are not replaceable. I did think about masking them off but I looked at the current Heuer vises with non-replaceable jaws and they are also painted.

[@GenePavlovsky]

@@GermanToolReviews The current Brockhaus Heuer vises also have the anvil section painted (powder coated), which is quite weird...

[@apistosig4173]

While it's really nice to have the option of easily removing the vice handle - personally - I would employed a circlip - way more discrete and way more classy. Another personal note - any old tool is worthy of refurbishment / restoration and I have enjoyed this presentation. Oh yeah - once the paint had been colour matched I would have suggested bead blasting the remaining dirt, grime, rust and paint from the pieces before refinishing.

[@misteragb7558]

Gressel made some nice vices with a moving back jaw, also Leinen. They look about the same.

[@philkraemer3927]

Check out this old video where exactly this model is made. Forging, milling, jaw hardening, just everything. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWTQd2SggNuap7s

[@GermanToolReviews]

Very cool video thanks for the link! I can see now how they attached the handle, looks like they use something like a planishing hammer to mushroom out that end.

[@philkraemer3927]

German Tool Reviews ....Btw, Brockhaus was well known for there machinist vises, they stop production but I don't know when and why. www.ebay.de/itm/Brockhaus-Maschinen-Schraubstock-BB-110-mm-aus-Stahl-geschmiedet-Fraesmaschine-/310346660415

[@Adrianyoutubing]

100mm 3inches? Closer to 4 inches on my ruler.

[@charliemucha7918]

I find it funny you were using craftsman sockets

[@MacoveiVlad]

Was going to comment about that bolt and how it was probably a replacement for two set screws on each side. Good thing i Google the vise and saw that Heuer still uses that bolt in more recent products. Man that is an ugly solution. Although very functional. :)

[@tatsngrass]

Nice video man. Are most vices constructed similarly to this one?

[@GermanToolReviews]

No, most vises these days have a front moving jaw. However, they all have the same basic components, a long lead screw and nut in the rear of the unit. Turning the screw will move one of the jaws. The threads on those lead screws would be similar to acme threads (trapezoidal profile) in order to handle the higher loads.

[@tatsngrass]

German Tool Reviews Sorry I wasn't very clear. What I really should have asked are most vises about the same internally? If I wanted to take on a project like this for myself how would you rate the difficulty?

[@GenePavlovsky]

@@tatsngrass I think his reply answers your question. It would be around similar level of complexity to rebuild mostly any other vise.

[@danielstarnes803]

Who makes that magnet you are using? And where can I obtain one?

[@GermanToolReviews]

I got one of those in a mystery box from Electronic Goldmine. Those are boxes filled with random surplus junk. They do sell them separately though: www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G20640 Here is the link to one of their large surprise boxes: www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G9321 They do have a $10 minimum.

[@danielstarnes803]

German Tool Reviews Thanks

[@davidhelmuth7654]

Like the vid. I would have gone with the green color. It’s more of a resto mod! Like a car that looks stock but is not! Good vid anyway. Thanks

[@fasousa4798]

Thats a 4 inch vise. The company now is Heuer-front. They make good swivel and retractable stands. I have 3 of which one is a back moveable jaw Schlegel and 2 York vises which i like a lot for the price they cost, That bolt works to clamp the slide and remove the play, the nut just locks it in place

[@GermanToolReviews]

Yes, you are right, I misspoke, it is a 4" vise (100mm). I think I was was thinking 3 inch because of the '3' stamped on it.

[@julianreverse]

Wrong! Company is called Brockhaus Heuer. The model name is Heuer Front

[@robertmuller7277]

Nur für´s Protokoll: Die Firma heisst Brockhaus (B), der Erfinder/ Entwickler heisst Josef Heuer. Ein "Heuer Front" öffnet nach vorne, deswegen das "Front". Das oben dargestellte Modell nannte man später "Heuer Primus". Diese D.R.P. - Ausführung besitzt noch keine stark angeschrägten Führungschienen, was bei späteren Modellen die "doppellte Prismenführung" genannt wurde. DRP-Kennungen wurden, so viel ich weiß, bis 1927 verwendet. Dannach verwendete man allgemein (auch?) D.R.G.M. (Deutsches Reichs Geschmacks Muster). Bei Brockhaus wurde es durch "Primus" ersetzt. Obwohl nur leicht angeschrägte Führungen vorhanden waren, kann man den hinteren Schlitten mit Hilfe der Schraube spielfrei einstellen! Das vordere Spindelspiel lässt sich bei verschlissener Druckscheibe mit Passscheiben oder einer leicht gewellten Druckscheibe auch spielfrei einstellen. Das zeitgleiche "Heuer Front"- Modell (bis 1928?) hatte eine runde (auch einstellbare) Schlittenführung! Die "modernen" Ausführungen (Front) ab 1948 besaßen alle eine vorgespannte Spindelführung sowie Rohrbacken, was bei den Vorkriegsmodellen eine Option war. Ich meine, Brockhaus ist der einzige noch in Familienbesitz befindliche deutsche Schraubstockhersteller. Viele Grüße aus einer "Sammlerwerkstatt" : )

[@veepsgarage]

My heuer has the same tapped hole on the side so it must be original.

[@Schmunzel57]

The original paint looks like Feldgrau (field gray); I have seen the wrong description on paint cans as Feldgrün (field green). I guess it is oil paint, those are remarkably durable. Maybe it is war time production for the army and they speeded it up and left more tool marks. The standard version I have seen in old catalogues was black.

[@GermanToolReviews]

Yeah the correct color is field gray, but I always seem to forget and called it field green because it looks more green to me than gray.

[@robertmuller7277]

+Schmunzel...: Das war mal eine interessante Anmerkung. Vielen Dank!! : )

[@thecynic807]

I think it was powder coated.

[@GenePavlovsky]

According to Brockhaus Heuer's website (company history), the start-up of powder coating unit was in 2002. I am guessing that means before that they were just painted.

[@goranzivkovic7254]

Thats forging vise

[@goranzivkovic7254]

Not casting

[@yeager17832]

Speed X 2 and mute.

[@gubr]

Here is a video of the vice being made: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH6uaoSpnKeNkJI

[@gubr]

Also Heuer still services these vices, they have stories on their homepage of people aksing for help and Heuer doing what you did, i.e. paint stripping, repainting, greasing and adjusting.

[@squarrl]

Makita not a fein or metabo drill :/

[@GermanToolReviews]

Yeah and using Craftsman drill bits! Just grabbed the closet drill I had.

[@johnnyasus86]

They could of done a better job on the machining at least.

[@robbymagen2]

very painful comment man put some energy when you talk otherwise good resto cheers Robert

[@a.z.c.681]

You absolutely f... it up by painting it with this horrible colour.

[@zeeshanfarhan5794]

Please do not color.

[@axtra92]

Take the stupid gloves off!!!

[@pauloneill8912]

oh dear, awful job, awful colour, needs done properly from begining