Germany Disappointed EU by Supporting China: Is EU Collapse Inevitable?

[@fastepo]

Japan Sell off more than $60 Billion Treasury Holding: Watch it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2SqZpKpgKerbrs

[@cathychan2814]

Long overdue ... the whole wide world should get rid of their US Treasury Notes otherwise you can be assured that more sanctions is coming.

[@willengel2458]

the empire asked and Japan gladly complied with terms of the Plaza Accord. although media brainwashed the public Japan brought on the lost decades by badly managed its economy. that's far from the real truth. the vampire wanted to suck the lifeblood out of Japan again. Japan says not again.

[@UgochukwuBoyzyCollins]

Shameless US can't accept defeat😂😂😂😂

[@Pissychriss]

@@UgochukwuBoyzyCollins your mama is shameless and you can’t accept it 😂😂😂

[@stanwayne429]

@@Pissychrissso your mama any good then ?

[@umaralvi2746]

@@UgochukwuBoyzyCollins exactly it's a shame how America treats other countries

[@UgochukwuBoyzyCollins]

@@Pissychriss Looser🤣🤣🤣

[@huggybear441]

@@Pissychriss Amaricant! 🤡

[@louisemann3306]

Ursula von der Leyen always put the interest of the US above Germany and the EU.

[@rafaelperez8821]

We have the same problem in Australia. We have up to 3 year waiting list for hospital admissions yet give the US 500 billion to help their economy. Our government is totally under the heel of Washington.

[@level1selamat155]

You believe in that?

[@louisemann3306]

@@level1selamat155 Yes, 100%.

[@9064peterpan]

von der Leyen's family lives in the US ?

[@maxchi1176]

Eu and china supposed can win win but puppet eu chamber denied

[@razaliariffin7622]

EU is dying... The ukraine war , tariff hike n the US is killing them

[@pinxtownington4645]

USA is not only killing it,it already has this push of gender ideology,mass immigration, LGBTQ, Palestine movement,rise of islamalization is all far leftists Lunacy

[@MehdiS-music]

All going according to the WEF´s plan. The whole club is criminal.

[@sjv9147s]

Germany's going through a deindustrialization phase. It knows it and is feeling it. It's choosing self-survival for now.

[@9064peterpan]

US blew up NS2 , destroying Germany's lifeline, and not a squeak from the German gov. US has got Germany by the balls.

[@magdolnagulyasnetorjek1877]

A migránsok addig bebiztosítják az életüket.

[@pramuanchutham7355]

Plus it moves automotive manufacturing to China, BMW, MBZ...cheaper and closer to the customers.

[@Abdu-Mechanic1]

China goes for win win USA goes for lose lose

[@wingkei8779]

USA go for I win you lose.

[@4nbop80user]

@@Abdu-Mechanic1 US made a deal with Zelensky for mineral resources to go to the US in return for war aid. EU gives, gets nothing in return but more debt. Still, EU follows US policy….

[@PhiloSurfer]

@@wingkei8779 a.k.a. the Tonya Harding strategy.

[@phongy45]

What the EU does , is more anti-trading and anti democratic progress!!

[@PIT72100]

Germany is now German first no more hypocrite US and EU hegemony.....

[@mgronich948]

This is a tiny irst step towards independence. Many more steps to go.

[@alrent2992]

Germany first down the toilet. 😂

[@Liam-zw1ek]

@@alrent2992 Looks like the US is already there. UN has downgraded United States to a 'developing country'... now this is funny.

[@chingtuckmeng1122]

good not to be sleeping n things will go right

[@abrahamhamdi2725]

lol... really? so... who blew up the nordstream?

[@michaelgoh9768]

The USA and EU countries are dying. Their economies are in turmoil.

[@coleernest8421]

It's because currupt politicians

[@danielchee9655]

@@coleernest8421: not only because of corruption but clueless leadership.

[@danmakintosh7002]

BUT WE THOUGHT SOCALISOM WAS GOOD LIKE IN EUROPE

[@agrihobbytv1028]

Disclosure TIMELINE . Breaking down the old Matrix..

[@peterk5981]

@@coleernest8421 no. It is because not good quality politicians and stupid policies they developed

[@stevierico5934]

They will never learn, their greed blinds their judgement.

[@bluemoon7076]

EU when ordered by the US imposed the tariff without the consensus of members . As always the EUC president , an American maid , enforce the order obediently ….

[@williamrogers1219]

40% of Volkswagon's sales come from sales in China, the largest automobile market. Volkswagon has already fired its software engineers and invested in a Chinese software firm to create the software needed to compete. In addition, they will be using Chinese EV platforms for their newer generation EVs. They are now talking about closing plants in Germany because sales are down. Chinese EVs will be welcomed in Latin America, Asia and Africa, leaving western manufacturers only the US and European markets at best.

[@crhu319]

Not even those. Westerners will concert cars to EVs using kits rather than buy the worthless expensive US compliance cars.

[@pinxtownington4645]

USA market like everything else in America vehicles manufacturers charging $ 50000 for a vehicle that costs #$ 10000,era is ending how many people can afford $100000 SUV's I wonder

[@chip2373]

Tarriffs work. If England had not imposed tariffs on imported textiles, their own textile industries would have never gotten off the ground, and the industrial revolution would have started elsewhere and England would have been left behind. Obviously you think VW should go after the disappearing 40% of Chinese sales and totally abandon their other 60% of sales. Makes sense for China. And VW's problem is it is overburdened with regulations and bureaucracy. Embracing China to do all of its manufacturing won't save it.

[@AnnieT369]

Why the need to mention Chinese subsidies when EU subsidies are even bigger?

[@CTHN7]

US subsidies for its companies are even bigger than EU!

[@Liam-zw1ek]

Hypocrites and liars. America has always subsidized it's own billionaires at the taxpayers' expense. No honor with these crooks.

[@4nbop80user]

@@AnnieT369 State Aid to companies is Unlawful in Europe, except via tax breaks such as on registration of EVs. Imposed by Common Market policy. Problem is that EU wants other countries to have the same laws. They don’t…and then the EU turns around and calls that distorting competition. They had it coming.

[@andrewchang8192]

What other terminology can they use ? Every government is providing subsidies 1 form or another for their exports to be competitive.. Just barking but no proper solution to the competition . Just another day by day politicians duty .

[@AnnieT369]

@@4nbop80user EU aid is not unlawful and massive EU subsidies are given to their farmers and companies.

[@tevlex3405]

eu sucks

[@vision9275]

Yes, due to incompetence of the European Commissions led by USA confidante Ursula von der Leyen

[@Constantinos-Cy]

Also US sucks..

[@joes6620]

Germany and Spain break free from America. 🕊️🕊️🕊️🍻🍻🍾🍾

[@MASMIWA]

Those with the most to lose, don't want tariffs yet the EU leadership continues to pursue tariffs against Chinese EV. It seems kinda stupid that those with the most to lose say no and yet the EU presses on with the tariffs This is the same leadership that continued EU support of the Ukraine war and has all but bankrupt the EU. The Europeans are about to go under and will certainly suffer some serious damage before things get better if ever. The German industrialists are investing in China and it seems they see their future in China, not Europe. They also realize that any products they make in China will be taxed if imported into the EU. The smart money is in BRICS as investments rise in the Middle East, Central Asia, South East Asia, and Latin America. BRICS and the SCO are rising and the EU and NATO are fracturing.

[@metinosman-j4d]

EU leaders do what the USA say regardless what's in the interests of it's members lets see if the governments defies the commission and act in there own best interests.

[@peterk5981]

you got it wrong, EU does things which US wants them to do. Nothing more, nothing less. It is suicidal because EU leaders are spinelss and stupid

[@KitJBenn]

You keep forgetting folks we're being run by sociopathic nonpolitical feral fool imbeciles . Thicker than two short planks.

[@MASMIWA]

@@metinosman-j4d There is growing dissention in the EU and it and NATO are showing signs of fracturing, maybe a rupture.

[@metinosman-j4d]

@@MASMIWA True if governments don't wake up and put the commission in there place that is serving the best interests of EU citizens.

[@maxkazzora4234]

Well done Spain and Germany. Looking after your own interests for a change instead of the EU. Who would have thought this would happen. Wonders never cease.😂😂😂

[@crhu319]

Only Canada fell for this abusive demand from USA.

[@kfcmalaysia5580]

Canada not producing cars but impose tariff on Chinese cars. What a joke.

[@elinys2843]

The EU should sanction or at least distance itself from the US, not China.

[@sarahkhan2310]

All countries have subsidy in the form of tax incentives rebates etc. subsidy is not a crime. It is a blessing to boost businesses affordability to global consumers

[@nanyanguo1]

yep

[@jansmith4829]

Germany stop sending zelenský billions of Euros he can buy even bigger mansions and support your car industry, it's simple. Simple

[@kenrichards8637]

Please god yes, get rid of the corruption and save tons of money.

[@clarencego4725]

Every country should looking after themselves and their own interests and what is the best for their country and Germany and Spain doing great for doing trade deals with China and these countries will prosperous and the other nations will losing out.

[@ClaySuddath]

Stop the trade war. Trade peace & prosperity. They pay the greatest dividends. A new world is becoming reality. Let us embrace change & cooperation.

[@greg1769]

Germany needs to exit from the EU.

[@simonepaula4531]

Nicht nur Deutschland aber ganz Europe

[@nelsonc3984]

Germany not listen to VD Leyden.

[@JesusG.CarmonaRodriguez]

Lo que en un momento se pensó de que la UE estaban sólidamente unidos, FRACASO. Ninguna medida en contra de China tendrá algún efecto a largo plazo. El mercado automotriz y los avances junto con precios competitivos no podrán superar a China. Ellos entraron al mercado Ruso con gran fuerza y aceptación. El Sur global es otro mercado que le está dando paso a la industria automotriz y en otros asuntos técnicos a China. Las condiciones son favorables para todos los actores. No es como lo hecho por siglos la UE y sus aliados, siendo ellos llevándose los mejores dividendos. Eso cambió, el mundo multipolar es real y dinámico. Será imparable 👍🇵🇷

[@makazat7278]

Without Spain and Germany to whom are calling EU. Poland or Romania...

[@randlecarr3257]

EU dissolving. Beautiful

[@Rwswal]

Great news. It's like Germany is slowly waking up

[@iScoopyPal]

Alert, alert, and be prepared to abandon ship. A last warning may not be issued. You are on your own from now on.

[@mohamedsuleiman5808]

In time most of unprincipled Europe would gravitate away from US.

[@redeoghan]

There is no such thing as an "European".

[@chuireisoshokwungnao7753]

Long live China - EU economic relationship ✌️

[@eskapadela]

Excelente!

[@sciagurrato1831]

What has the EU done in evs over the last decade? The EU had the technology and financial advantage - what have they come up with except overpriced, inefficient and underfeatured evs? Do you think that the blocking of Chinese evs means Europe can come up with competitive evs anytime in the near future? Who are we kidding?

[@Abdu-Mechanic1]

It's just the beginning

[@elizabethvalentinawasilews6207]

Te quiero Pedro Sanchez ❤️ ♥️ 💙 💓 💖

[@bernkoh343]

When US said jump, EU please don't jump, just tell US we already have a heart attack.

[@larrysherk]

In its struggles, Germany has had to rethink, and is beginning to see the light.

[@Alexxali63]

Germany and Spain should join brics Leave NATO for sake of your citizens

[@Dokonaj]

BRICS is not for colonizers. BRICS is for global south ONLY

[@njikangclifford8259]

In that case, you might as well suggest that the US joins as well! No colonizers and sanctions maniacs in Brics! It's as simple as that.

[@RosslynR]

I reside in Hong Kong, China, there are thousands of German engineers in China, as well as German-speaking Chinese engineers in Germany. Whereas the French and Italians are chefs in Hong Kong. The Brits in Hong Kong never built this city, the financially educated world knows that Germany built the engineering world from Hong Kong. Everything in my apartment in Hong Kong are German brands in Hong Kong who have been established here for over half a century. GERMAN SCIENTIST AND ENGINEERS BUILT THIS WORLD THE UNITED STATES CLAIMS with their US dollar as the world's reserve currency. It's no secret that the United States dollar came in power on WWII war spoils with the Bretton Woods Agreement.

[@comments2840]

"Free trade", is allowed only when you have the advantage. Otherwise, it must be unfair and must be sanctioned.

[@GPH15]

It’s just common sense. Bravo !

[@eisernherz3929]

Support? Iies! not charging extra money doesn't mean supporting it just means not suppressing someone! Germany ist just getting its pants wet

[@harrisng3041]

🔥🇺🇲🔥 The American Albatross

[@4nbop80user]

Missing : huge losses from EV leasing. Vehicle Leases are prefinanced by banks. In addition, the EU has an insufficient number of charging stations (travel is risky, many EVs need to get roadside assistance) which kills off confidence, therefore the second hand market. Second hand prices are a fraction of forecast. The result is a disaster. Suspending EV tax breaks has already begun. Green parties losing elections. What’s next ? Banks defaulting ? This is a matter of survival. Our ‘leaders’ are all barking up the same trees and don’t seem to get the full picture. One promotes the greenery and another one sees banks in trouble because of it. They fail to foresee all the consequences of their actions. ‘Leaders’ ?

[@shaik10suleman]

Great Spain/ Spanish are good

[@trekpac2]

Good strategy for Germany and Spain. Alienating China for the Americans is not the right strategy. Europe should go its own way between China and America.

[@charleskesner1302]

Trade with China is good, and when the dust settles, Russia, too. China has the technology and Russia the cheap energy. Europe would be better off with BRICS. I do not believe Ursula von der Leyen has Europe's best interest at heart. Seems very old school and like the USA, confrontational rather than using diplomacy and comity.

[@chanoliverkumyun9123]

EU disappointed Germany by not seeking their own path. However the EU can't help it too.

[@liamporter1137]

Protectionism will only weaken one's country.

[@waynethorpe1341]

Will Sanity Prevail

[@frankcooke3859]

We certainly hope so. 👍

[@ClaySuddath]

Through multi-polarity, yes.

[@johnbethea4505]

We are at a point where each country must protect their country and their economies.

[@werwe1975]

good for coming back to senses

[@zatoichison6420]

We can watch European Circus, or a better one from US .

[@lesgamester7356]

Thanks. Interesting post. Ended up here learning about ESA! Weird.

[@wozzacervelo2702]

European winter is coming without nord stream LPG pipeline

[@staickeystickey7337]

Jst because your friend an neighbor agrees to crtain things tht dont benefit u dsnt mean u have to join them for u diggn a grave for yrslf 😂😂

[@SlimSancho428]

Punishment for efficiency lol

[@user-B1whoUr]

Tariffs ='s Jealousy 😂😂😂

[@rayblack9657]

Germany is Finally getting it now that's more like it!

[@rainnelmaclang4803]

Germany's support to China on EV issue, is one of the series of Germany's responses to the perpetrators of Nord Stream pipelines sabotage.

[@andrekeefer2034]

What wrong with state subsidies?

[@JacksonWong-pw4zq]

What if chuna impose tariff , sanctions , trade war against eu and how will eu feel ?

[@siewkonsum7291]

The EU is currently fragmented & directionless cause by the US proxies war in Ukraine against Russia. Hence each suffering EU member prioritises safeguarding their core national interests first. 😊

[@keikereali6180]

Great move

[@cindycain3301]

Yes, it does.

[@Mustafa-q6k-v2l]

EU , sick man of Europe. Who's going to save you ?

[@samcoatham2400]

Cheap energy inputs = inexpensive outputs. Basics

[@qolspony]

Subscribed

[@bclu7343]

Why subsidy is an issue here? look at US is subsidizing TSMC ,Intel, Boeing, Samsung ... in the US ! Double standard or what ? The key is normal people in EU can get affordable and great quality EV !

[@ralph95]

Yes

[@georgeeagle872]

Spain had to back down as China started to retaliate. Spain was the driving force behind EU's proposed ban on Chinese EVs alongside France. Depending on how the situation unfolds, China may impose further ban on pork and/or Brandy, directly hitting Spain, Holland and France.

[@ErrolJames-kd4vv]

History shows Europe as the worst please

[@SdoZachary1]

American colonies need independence

[@omniversallove369]

Same as French

[@vasilispatsalidis5683]

Who elected Von der Leyen.?

[@alrent2992]

Nobody

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[@SEECORIYADH]

Where there tariffs placed on all the banks and companies that received bailouts during the financial crisis. 🤔

[@Monkey341]

It is funny for me to see the news daily. One would write that Germany is for China in whatever, and the next, another would write Germany is against China. Then, it is for China again. Netizens' sentiments would be sway from here to there, there to here. It's better I attend to my flowers. 😂😂

[@mohamedsuleiman5808]

China and BRICS is a fact of life, going forward. They would take initiative like it or not, going forward.

[@briandavid4796]

Spain?? What brand of cars that are indigenous to Spain. Anyone know?

[@wynetsang]

In a democracy, there is always dissenting voice. EU represents democracy.

[@user-B1whoUr]

Imagine your children being attacted in school because they are excellent students with straight A's in school 🤔 💭 🤔 😂😂😂😂

[@charleswilson8038]

Us is fukin with the world.think no retaliation? Think again.

[@nsebast]

CCP giving subsidyto their firms: Unfair subsidies. American goverment giving subsidy to their firms: Incentives on national interest.

[@naga2015kk]

its so vulgar to complain about subsidy while doing EXACTLY the same thing.

[@truthseeker000000]

I hope trade ties improve

[@aliyap4580]

The wiseman (Germany) explored the wiseman in the east (China). 😁

[@cricketcavalry1824]

I guess only Italy throwing tantrums

[@garyb455]

Mr Draghi is a lifelong evangelist for European integration and always sees the answer as more Europe. But it is hard not to notice that Europe’s decline coincides exactly with the launch of monetary union at Maastricht - and the convulsions that this later entailed - followed by treaty inflation (Amsterdam, Nice, Lisbon) and EU encroachment into every nook and cranny of national life. The sovereign states of East Asia are prospering nicely without locking themselves together in a tight union. One might legitimately ponder whether Europe would be healthier today if it had let nations be nations, and had never launched the European project along Monnet lines in the first place. The EU itself is the elemental problem.

[@markc6140]

EU can adopt China’s ways of subsidies. Each sovereignty country has its own right to do what best for their own manufacturers to be competitive. . So what the issues?

[@4nbop80user]

@@markc6140 State Aid to companies is Unlawful in the EU. That’s the price of a common market. Only applies in the EU. Dumping is another one that’s forbidden and EU has gone against China for that too. Anyone here tell me if I got that wrong ? Please do.

[@markc6140]

@@4nbop80user you telling us that EU did not practise subsidies for local companies. You must be kidding. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_the_European_Union

[@khairimat-ls9gq]

great move by Spain.

[@netizencapet]

They were right to turn down the tariffs since there are more jobs to be gained in services and energy cost reduction than lost from the coddled domestic auto industry.

[@Ibcurious2-u2k]

My Grandfather used to say, Germans are either at your feet or at your throat.😁

[@cm-lv1bu]

Star-studded compliment. Ingrates & fools begone. Wise grandpa. C

[@willeisinga2089]

Support Germany China❤❤ ❤

[@kittoybig]

If Germany being the largest economy in EU voices its opposition, don't you think the tariff would go ahead. Your claims doesn't make any sense at all.

[@RM-qw3xz]

Why doesn't anyone ever mention that European countries and the USA subsidize their automakers too? If they hadn't, their auto industry wouldn't even exist.

[@nikolask3875]

EU is not only Germany... When Germany pays back the ww2 damages to all EU countries... is nothing after... We all supported that country to recover from ww2

[@tishofikini2776]

The problem with the EU and US is that they did not fathom how nondescript China could have become of age and adjust their economic model. They could not see how they should adjust their ways of living to accept lower standards in face of Chinese onslaught.