The SPD in Brandenburg didn't win because of Scholz but despite of Scholz.
@johndavis8669Ай бұрын
It is a saying if it isn't broken then don't fix it.
@claudiapost-schultzke7216Ай бұрын
🎉😂
@waltergro9102Ай бұрын
They didn't win because of the shift of former voters from the Greens and others (Left, Christian Democrats) to the Social Democrats they now lack a majority because the Greens and Left didn't get into parliament anymore (Landtag). If that's winning an election I don't know what's losing an election. Anyway no comeback for Scholz.
@mahuhudeАй бұрын
Scholz‘s Comeback? Woidke refused any appearance of Scholz in SPD‘s Brandenburg. The SPD got good results in Brandenburg despite Scholz‘s lack of popularity. Local elections are NOT a voting on the popularity of the federal administration.
@flooofflooof8883Ай бұрын
im from brandenburg. you are 100% spitting the facts.
@ithembaАй бұрын
in some federal states they are, in others they are less so. NRW Landtagswahl is very much a kleine Bundestagswahl. Brandenburg has always been way different and continues to be a peculiar state among the east german states, with demographics being wildly different from the rest of the east (and the whole of Brandenburg becoming more and more of a suburbia for Berlin).
@mahuhudeАй бұрын
@@ithemba There are political topics decided on the federal level and there are political topics to be decided in the Landtage. Of course those elections are important but a federal administration shouldn't be judged based on Landtagswahlen.
@ithembaАй бұрын
@@mahuhude but political trends from the federal level very much do trickle down into Landtagswahlen. As I said, in some states more than others. The vast majority of german voters has no idea about policy being decided in their Landtag and know maybe the MP and one or two other members of the Landesregierung tops.
@SDDT24Ай бұрын
And centrists that would normally vote cdu voted spd just to block afd , but that is never sustainable in the long term
@NarkkarihampuusiАй бұрын
SPD won because voters of the Left and the Greens voted them and in the process they were both cut out. I would call that Pyrrhic victory in spades.
@triceratops7084Ай бұрын
No the left immigrated almost entirely to the BSW.Tje SPD absorbed more of the cdu
@Alexander-z6x2 күн бұрын
Well bsw won the most and garnered 13,5% showjng that the social democratic ideology is still huge in germany. Id not say pyrric but an indicator that less immigration is the ideal way forward for the spd or to accept the ideological differences between the spd and bsw and form social governments to keep the movement going in germany and make the AfD less and less relevant by incorporating the migratory issues and other right leaning issues into the block of ideology of the left. We cant all think alike, it would be boring
@richardyong535Ай бұрын
Even though the spd itself gained 7 seats, the coalition partners lost 13 seats, giving the coalition a net 6 seats loss Edit: math fails
@andremitreuter5397Ай бұрын
You mean 6 seats
@richardyong535Ай бұрын
@@andremitreuter5397 yes my apologies
@farright118Ай бұрын
@richardyong535 yeah but he's trying to pretend it was a win
@VillaDishАй бұрын
I really like the 1st and 2nd vote system. It sounded very complicated at first during the thuringia and Saxony elections but honestly I think its a great system that should be implemented in more countries!
@Minifutzi_o.OАй бұрын
The main negative point is that it could bloat the parliament
@fhsvsoxifdvАй бұрын
@@Minifutzi_o.Owell it does. I think in the Bundestag we have a maximum number of seats but I'm not sure
@ProWeltfriedenАй бұрын
@@fhsvsoxifdv Well now we have. Under the old law the Bundestag could be as big as the Überhangmandate demanded it to be. Germany has the second biggest parliament, only behind China
@funfungerman8401Ай бұрын
Not Could but *will* the question is just how Strong ^^
@nettcologne9186Ай бұрын
The electoral system is not perfect, but very close.- The current " traffic light government " has created a mechanism at the federal level to prevent parliament from becoming bloated.
@farright118Ай бұрын
let's be honesy mate, the government coalition did atrocious. The FDP and Greens failed to reach the threshold. This is barely a win for even SPD.
@XY-uc1twАй бұрын
Well, Scholz and SPD managers were banned from the election campaign in Brandenburg. Because the local citizens hate them so much.
@ithembaАй бұрын
both of these parties have been historically very weak in the east, often failing to reach threshold before. It has very limited representational value for national trends or votes. Brandenburg has half the population of Berlin and 12 % of NRW.
@brianbosch3628Ай бұрын
Wrong. We, the Greens, have been in parliament for the last 10 years+. We lost representation in two states, which is unprecedented because we always managed to get in. We are in government in 8 states. We used to govern in 11. I hope we get a turnaround. @@ithemba
@DacheerioАй бұрын
oi mate teh fackin goverment coala ion did terrible innit?
@SDDT24Ай бұрын
Their vote was artificially inflated by people wanting to not make afd largest party
@louistan7560Ай бұрын
Historic. With AfD at 29%.
@dylancoykendall554Ай бұрын
Afd cringe
@RealLactoseTolerantАй бұрын
@@dylancoykendall554 I bet your nose is really big and you like to rub your hands together like a fly
@kenzo1091Ай бұрын
@@dylancoykendall554what makes Afd cringe dude ?
@kenzo1091Ай бұрын
@@dylancoykendall554you wanna have more illegal Muslim immigrants?
@mapache69.Ай бұрын
@@kenzo1091apparently it’s cringe to love your Homeland, and your people.
@thirdbrother4018Ай бұрын
I love how it explains why people voted for SPD and then for AFD. People voted for AFD to support their ideas, then people voted SPD to cockblock AFD. It just looks hilarious, like did SPD had any program to begin with or you just cut it out to AFD program?
@DENDROID2Ай бұрын
I saw that too... 'Protestwähler' has gotten a whole new meaning. It shows how thin the arguments are on behalf of the SPD. This is remarkable, since they are in power and could simply deal with perceived problems. Action would speak for itself.... just a few examples: Massive building programs for housing and infrastucture would be a classic SPD action (lending money to spark economic growth), reducing regulations on local and federal level, compulsory language courses and tests (directly connected to payments, work permits, residency status), positive incentives for change instead of negative incentives (where are the electric charging stations needed? Same idea as mentioned above regarding building programs), giving schools the tools to ensure discipline (no, not Prügelstrafe... but why can't constant troublemakers parents be fined for the destructive behaviour of their kids by the schools themselves without lengthy trials?... out of the box, but why not?), Reformation of the legal system and quicker trials (young people with multiple convictions of violent crimes should be tried within days and not get more and more opportunities for mischief), reducing criminal age to 12, ... all these things could be done without being undemocratic, racist, fascist or whatever. Some are actually classical leftist policies.
@SparhafocАй бұрын
It's perfectly valid to vote *against* a party you know will be destructive to you, your community, and your country's ideals.
@yiannchrstАй бұрын
Actually this election system is very good! It seems very fair.
@HolzlowskiАй бұрын
I think so too, but now all the AfD voters are crying and claiming the elections were fraudulent because they believe that everyone in Germany thinks like them. Many of them don't understand the AfD's election program and don't see that the program is bad for the average citizen and when you read the election program to them, they say it's fake news xD
@AkselGALАй бұрын
if you like it, look at the system in the federal state of Hamburg. It has direct election districts with 3-5 parliament seats. So smaller parties can grab also directly elected parliament seats. The balancing between proportional vote and direct candidate vote is less a hassle that way.
@InfiniteDeckhandАй бұрын
Scholz had nothing to do with this.
@slamacfulАй бұрын
In Hungary we have a similar system, and I think this German method is the best. The district are directly represented, and give the major winner a plus weight, while the list mandates ensure, that the minor parties also receive some seats. Counterexamples: Great Britain, where Labour won almost two third of the seats with 1/3 of popularity; or Netherland, where it is very hard to make coalitions due to many parties.
@DGAMINGENАй бұрын
Hungary does not have the German system. In Hungary the party list doesn't compensate the smaller parties and bigger parties that already have FPTP seats get even more porportional seats.
@mapache69.Ай бұрын
Best system would be Netherlands, except with no threshold +party members get to vote for the candidates prior to the election, with members getting 1 vote each.
@whitezombie10Ай бұрын
Forming huge coalitions of widely different parties might work in the short term, but at some point the AfD will start getting absolute majorities by getting more votes from those governments’ incompetence
@VillaDishАй бұрын
As you pointed out the credit of this victory goes to Woidke! Moreover, like shown in video 75% voted to stopped Afd. I am glad SPD stopped AfD but I fear that Scholz will take this as a sign that SPD is supported and approved, which is just not the case! SPD needs to wake up and realize they did a bad job and admit it. Germany needs recovery and healing. Otherwise AfD will overtake Germany.
@YouAreStillNotablazeАй бұрын
Good to see acknowledgement of issues without jumping to extremes.
@duskokukolj5571Ай бұрын
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@thomasjgallagher924Ай бұрын
I don't think there's much risk of Scholz feeling he's popular. The sideways shift on immigration seems to indicate the party's awareness to me, and they're going to know about the exit polling and understand why. I'm not so sure that the major challenges facing Germany (and Europe) are addressed well by any of the parties (least among them AfD and the new nutters from the far Left). No one in Germany seems to address the structural and cultural issues made clear in Mario Draghi's recent report. You may know of folks who are, as you're likely better informed than I am. I'm certain no Scholz supporter, but when it comes to the German economy and social situation, this all seems like decades in the making to me.
@schrimpfАй бұрын
Rigged democracy in Germany. The so-called opposition party CDU animated their voters to go for Woitke .
@baumholderh8425Ай бұрын
Let’s be honest, the AFD is a classical liberal party. The most “right wing” a party like that can be is “center left”. People need to stop pretending classical liberal and mixed socialist parties are “extreme” in the west. It’s all in relation to eachother and let’s not forget that at the American Indepencee and the French Revolution the democracies were violent far leftists.
@Irk7Ай бұрын
The strategic voting for SPD to stop an AfD win by partially Grüne voters turned out to be a bad idea for them, as it resulted in the greens falling short of entering the parliament. As a result, AfD managed to win ⅓ of the seats, which allows them to block important decisions.
@Alexander-z6x2 күн бұрын
Germanys länder have votes on supermajorities?
@univeropa3363Ай бұрын
I can only hope that Scholz doesn’t get a comeback. That man needs to leave office.
@thepax2621Ай бұрын
Hopefully, the FDP breaks the traffic-light-coalition over this 🤷🏻♀️ Lindner made some noises about it after Thuringia and Saxony... But I'm sceptical all in all
@ithembaАй бұрын
@@thepax2621 FDP would commit suicide if they cause early elections right now. FDP came in under 2 % in all of the three state elections.
@cedude69Ай бұрын
SPD barely won lol
@raindancer80Ай бұрын
You combat the AfD not by forming hair-brained coalitions, but by listening to the reasons people vote for them and giving them at least some of what they want. You have to govern the whole country, and that includes people who want things that you might not, ignore them, and they'll move to the extremes. I fear this lesson won't be learned in time.
@DGAMINGENАй бұрын
Germanies coalition has actually become much more anti-immigration. Yet this has actually lead the AfD to gain because these voters dont vote on policy but their percieve anti-establishment credentials. If anything it has only hurt their base which is now also less likely to vote for them.
@MarcSiegertАй бұрын
No, absolutely not. This "listening to the concerned citizens" is what brought us into this mess. When other parties try to do something like that, it only validates and strengthens the AfD. This is downward spiral into right extremism, and that is what we are experiencing right now. What you should instead do is to ignore them, follow your plan, modernise the country, create opportunities and the problem will fix itself.
@nicke0bАй бұрын
@@MarcSiegert 😂 That strategy failed completely in other countries.... better to cooperate and force afd to change their worst positions in exchange for some power
@DENDROID2Ай бұрын
@@MarcSiegertThis will be a long one because I want you to think about this. Yes - political parties need to argue and try to convince people of their views, but they must do so with open visor. I remember very well how party officials and subsequently state financed media handled the silvester incidents (eine Armlänge, passiert auf jedem Okoberfest, etc.) and the denial that took place regarding gender and age distribution of the refugees (young males vastly overrepresented) as well as their primary migration motives (making money) and subsequently the logical implications that follow... until this year. The only party that openly adressed this from the beginning was the AfD. Immigration, as it has been taking place in Germany, is (rightfully or not) perceived as 'the mother of all troubles' by large parts of the population. One may argue against that... but that has barely been done. Instead it was simply denied that immigration had anything to do with any problem Germany is facing such as lack of housing, deteriorating education system, violent crimes, massive spendings on social welfare, ... to name a few. Denial does not substitute arguments. Denouncement does not convince the denounced. The AfD would not be as strong had the ruling parties not opted to simply denounce public perception as faulty (or worse) instead of taking care of the problems associated with immigration by many. -> i.e. where are the millions of new appartements needed? ... .....,. ...and this is just about that crucial one... there are more issues, that add up to it-> cum-ex as standout example for massive corruption amongst the political elite, complete incompetence on highest levels (prime examples being ministry of health and until recently the ministry of defense), handling of Covid 19 (Arroganz der Macht), media policy/GEZ, perceived lenient handling of criminals vs strict enforcement of slights, people living better on social welfare (plus some illegal activity) than the working poor ... ... all this sums up to a perception of them up there against us down here and a feeling of a highly unjust society. I have a mixed circle of friends - all who are in blue collar jobs sympathize with AfD positions... ( they may not vote them, I won t either.. but I see why they gain. They adress something real - they promise change. That is enough for many voters) sorry for my awkward style... hope to get my point across. nice day 8:24
@Peter-xx6tzАй бұрын
@@MarcSiegert yknow, i think youre right. right wing extremism is actually when the government listens to the people, and democracy is when the government hates a a fifth of its native population so much that its unwilling to cooperate with them in any way at all. btw, i like the "modernise" euphamism there. Does that mean extermination, or just plain old re-education?
@batorian03Ай бұрын
Imagine the Greens getting bashed by all sides and then losing votes in an election, who could've thought. 🤷♂
@AkselGALАй бұрын
imagine that people voting green are proportionally from the better educated part of society. They tactically voted. And the Green bashing is one of the stupist things in this country. They are right in their analysis. Get through nearly all political fields and their science and statistics based approach is right. If their solution is optimal can be discussed. But all the other parties have a competition running about not changing anything.
@damm7123Ай бұрын
Good video. Surprised the SPD managed to stay on top despite the rise of the AfD in East Germany.
@kaanyasin3733Ай бұрын
The SPD could confirm a Ministerpräsident with the CDU, they just wouldnt be able to pass laws. If there is a Patt (half agrees, half disagrees), a law isnt passed but in Brandenburg, you need a constructive vote of no confidence (vote to oust the Ministerpräsident AND replace him), which cant be done with an AfD, BSW opposition.
@Baysal_AlisanАй бұрын
Afd nin genel parti programı nedir
@konplayzАй бұрын
So a government that will do absolutely nothing; the epitome of status quo, i.e. the SPD and CDU.
@mastershroobАй бұрын
You can't confirm a Ministerpräsident with half of the votes. You need half + 1. He would only be acting Ministerpräsident and couldn't even make changes to his cabinet. So that's a stupid idea that won't happen. Brandenburg is likely going to end up with a SPD-BSW coalition as it's the only feasible option if no one from the BSW suddenly decides to join the CDU.
@kaanyasin3733Ай бұрын
@@Baysal_Alisan hepimiz gidiyoruz, bitti
@kaanyasin3733Ай бұрын
@@konplayz if you ever looked at the SPD, especially in places where they are/were in the goverment, its because its a party of academics. Only people in labour unions, university students feeling nostalgic for the 1950-1980s SPD and such people vote for the SPD, not the average worker. If it were to do stuff for the average man (i.e. shift the focus away from the gender/enviromental politics and back to "how do we make people richer") it wouldnt be in the suck-ish place it is. This counts for most socialdemocratic parties in europe (austria, france, etc.), which is why most of them get sent to the shadow by a more radical party.
@FutureAIDev2015Ай бұрын
The way they structure their government is very fascinating, and I especially like the two vote election system where the second vote is for the party and not any individual candidate
@petersanderson8307Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@EUMadeSimpleАй бұрын
Thank you ! ❤️
@ivancho5854Ай бұрын
If the centre parties fail to act on the needs and wants of the people, the people will inevitably vote further left and right until the government listens.
@DGAMINGENАй бұрын
And they continue to vote far-left and far-right until our demise.
@ivancho5854Ай бұрын
@@DGAMINGEN Sadly that's very true.
@KolyaBennettАй бұрын
@@DGAMINGENGermany hasn't had a party with the ideas of AFD since the 90's/ early 2000's.
@ATOM-vv3xuАй бұрын
Some clarifications: In our federation power is not only split between Germany and the States but also between those and the communes (sometimes there are also other levels of decision-making which is possible because federalism works recursively) It is important to keep in mind, that the loss for the greens was to be expected as they had major support from FFF when the last vote happened which almost doubled their success for a short period of time all across Germany. So while the greens are currently losing in all elections, their voters seem to be relatively stable still (though that might change, if the greens shift further to the right and some other green-left-wing alternative presents itself to them). The FDP is also known for fluctuating in their success a lot, so their results are not enough to project how they will do in the future. Though there is a clear trend of the SPD and CDU losing, I still think it is worrying that your stream had the SPD losing on it's thumbnail, despite them gaining votes being predictable beforehand which showed to me, that you are no expert at the Brandenburg elections. For that reason I would recommend asking locals in the future. One thing you didn't cover enough is how the left party loses all over east Germany, a result that can be attributed to the BSW's growth mostly but that also was a result of their strategy of getting voters from the greens failing
@clivejungle6999Ай бұрын
Remember 10 years ago the far right were the fringe of a fringe, now the most powerful parties breathe sighs of relief when they beat them in elections they would have walked a few years ago. Marie Le Pen's party in France had 0 seat in 2007, now they have 143. And with every year the only thing propping up the established parties is their immigrant legions. Millions of Africans are forecasted to arrive in Europe over the next few decades as climate migrants. It will just keep getting worse and worse.
@TheRatOnFire_Ай бұрын
Then stop and deport the invaders. Far right becomes a thing of the past.
@marangod2347Ай бұрын
Fairly certain it's not just immigrants considering you need citizenship to vote...
@StrikeBolteafcАй бұрын
So help fix climate climate to reduce the amount of refugees
@clivejungle6999Ай бұрын
@@marangod2347 Which is why i said they were 'propping up' their vote. Demographic transition being weaponised by left wing parties against the Right is openly spoken of in the US. Although there the importation of millions of socially conservative, anti-communist Catholics from Latin America has backfired spectacularly for the Dems.
@guxxioАй бұрын
the only thing inmigration is propping up is the far right replacement theories
@tomtom2806Ай бұрын
After the elections in Thuringia, Saxony and Brandenburg, Scholz is in a worse situation than ever. The dispute is increasing in his coalition because his party and that of his coalition partners were largely defeated in the elections. In Brandenburg, the SPD now has to cooperate with Sarah Wagenknecht's left-wing populist party.
@serenityssolaceАй бұрын
Scholz's comeback it says 😂😂😂
@theotheronethere4391Ай бұрын
Note that the premier of Saxony, Michael Kretschmer (CDU) who recently just had their election on September 1st endorsed the SPD on September 15th on an anti-AFD ticket. If we were to look at the polls, that seemed to have move 3-4 points away from the CDU to the SPD.
@Edmuresrampantmanhood-dp3jdАй бұрын
How did that go over with the Federal leadership of the party? I would imagine they wouldn't be on board with that considering the CDU was running.
@theotheronethere4391Ай бұрын
@@Edmuresrampantmanhood-dp3jd Given that Kretschmer is one of the Deputy Leaders of the CDU, I can't imagine he did not tell someone on the Federal Leadership about it. That being said, Redmann, the chair of Brandenburg CDU was not happy about it.
@dprout3392Ай бұрын
Thank you for an excellent presentation.
@EUMadeSimpleАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Scrooge1PercenterАй бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Flyinghorus381Ай бұрын
Of course I can’t blame the CDU for their loose migration policies or their blind reliance on Russian gas, can I ?
@MellonVeganАй бұрын
Why do so many people in the comments not understand addition?
@EUMadeSimpleАй бұрын
maybe i should have explained it better :D
@fullmetaltheoristАй бұрын
Willkommen in Deutschland. Die Preise müssen runter. Ich habe ihn in der kleinen und in der großen Version. Olaf Scholtz. 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
@MilkaPetkova-or2ozАй бұрын
Polls say 9%, not 32 for the chancellor's national approval rates
@donatist59Ай бұрын
This is an incredibly fair electoral system. It eliminates the distortions of gerrymandering while preserving your right to have your own elected MP. What would the US Congress look like under this system?
@MM-un3obАй бұрын
Thanks for the summary
@proro90Ай бұрын
Didn't know that getting to know elections news about 🗣️bRRRRRanderburg would be that interesting!! Nice video
@VillaDishАй бұрын
I really liked the video! Explained really well the system of german election and the results! Kudos for doing it so well and so quickly
@punishedpinecone4772Ай бұрын
You mention the political persecution of the AfD leader but refuse to acknowledge the nature of it.
@kitfisto96Ай бұрын
I find foreign political structures fascinating, so thanks for sharing!
@alexrochlitz7402Ай бұрын
A vote for the SPD is enough in my books. Whether supportive of the party or to prevent the AfD from gaining ground. Stopping the AfD (and BSW) needs to be the priority.
@haku73355 күн бұрын
Someone help us bro. We are falling apart
@paulkoza8652Ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation of the German federal system.
@nijugaАй бұрын
Overall a good video, just some points to add. As you figured out, the victory for the SPD was because of Dietmar Woidke and the wish to have a party to win against the AfD, not because everybody loves the SPD. Iam also not completely sure how much this success of the SPD will help Olaf Scholz, because Woidke didnt want Scholz to participate in the Brandenburg election campaign. After all of this, the campaign without Scholz seems to be more succesfull, and Scholz also lives in theBrandenburg capitol Potsdam, so he was also a voter in this election. Another important point to talk about, are the percentages. If you count the 4 parties who will be in the parliament, then you see they having around 85%. So whats with the other 15%? In Brandenburg there are two ways for a party to get into the parliament. The first one ist to get at least 5% of the 2nd votes. The second one is to get one of the 1st votes (direct mandate), then the percentages from the second voted will counted proportionate. So the 15% are the parties who failed both, not 5% and no direct mandate from 1st votes. But what happens now with the missing 15%? These 15% will be split proportionate to the parties who successfully went into the parliament. Means in the end the parties who were successfull also getting rewarded on top. Its because otherwise 85% from 88 seats would result into only around 75 seats would be occupied. So after thinking about that, many people in Brandenburg and Saxony wanted to vote "tactical'" against the far right AfD. To add something - I grew up in Brandenburg and now living in Saxony, so Iam all in into these two elections. Both - the CDU in Saxony and the SPD in Brandenburg, which both having the function of minister president in their federal state, told everybody its just between them and the far right AfD and it tactical to vote CDU in Saxony and SPD in Brandenburg to prevent the AfD becoming the strongest party in parliament. Iam sorry to say but thats just bullshit in my opinion. That only leads to the result, that smaller parties maybe dont make it into the parliament and giving many % away, also to the far right AfD. In Saxony you having the same election rules as in Brandenburg, with one addition - you need two direct mandates (1st vote winners) instead of only one. Thats the reason why the left-wing party "Die Linke" made it into the parliament, they won 2 direct mandates from the first votes in Leipzig. Otherwise they would be out, because the only got 4,5% of the needed 5%. Nearly the same with our green party "Bündnis90/Die Grünen". They got 2 direct mandates - one in Leipzig, one in Dresden, so that they are in. They didnt needed the first vote direct mandates in the end, because they got 5,1% of the needed 5% but it seemed like they would be below 5% for long time while counting the votes. This leads to the point that in Saxoy we still having 6 parties in the parliament and only around 9% to divide from the parties which didnt made it in. In Brandenburg the opposite happend. The left-wind party "Die Linke" (3%) and the green party "Bündnis90/Die Grünen" (4,1%) were not successfull in reaching the 5% and nobody won a direct mandate from the firste votes besides the SPD and the AfD, so they also failed to get in with the direct mandate rule. There was also another party "BVB/Freie Wähler" - they are a liberal-conversative party which was part of the last parliaments. They won 2014 and 2019 a direct mandate (first votes) and managed to get in. In 2019 they even reached the 5% of the 2nd votes. All 3 of them are out now. Tactical election would be to try to get more of them to 5% or to try to get them a direct mandate. This would have had helped the winnig party to have more possibility to form a government and the AfD would have gotten a far lower share from the parties who didnt made it in. Ah and to add another point: the FDP ("liberal party" - but more liberal-conversative) was nether a big thing in eastern Germany, even if they are part of the national government at the moment.
@nijugaАй бұрын
Iam not sure what to think about the 3 elections in Brandenburg, Saxony and Thuringia. Its shocking how many people voting the AfD even if its known that their federal parties in the 3 named federal states are proved far-right extremists, even the candidates in Thuringia and Brandenburg are proved far-right extremists..... We shouldnt forget that also many topics were related to national government topics. The biggest topics in the Brandenburg election were social safety (20%), economical development (19%), migration/refugees (17%), education (12% - Brandenburg is ranked low in the federal state comparison. Each federal state can do their own education program and many people want to have the same education plan in whole Germany (89% in 2020)), criminality/inner safety (12%), climate protection (9%) and the Russian war in Ukraine (9%). Many people are disappointed in east Germany about the national government (SPD, FDP, Bündnis90/Die Grünen). Also many remember ther 16 years of Merkel (CDU) and are still disappointed. Then there are already 4 "big parties" out. The left-wing party "Die Linke" was once strong in Germany but their internal affairs ruining their party at the moment. The secession of the BSW from Die Linke also made it more difficult, espacially if the secession party BSW was very successfull in each of the 3 elections. Talking about the BSW, we dont really know what they want at all. Its a new party, doesnt even exist for a year now and got that much success. Till now we only know that they want strong restriction in terms of refugees and they want to cancel the help for Ukraine, especially the military one. Its also like a one (wo-)man show with Sarah Wagenknecht (love to call her Zarenknecht), the federal BSW parties dont even having 100 members and the ones who are in came from like every party (exception AfD as much as I know). So so political line is the line of the one person - Sarah Wagenknecht. If you hear them talking about the Russian war, you will become sick! Its like she repeats Putin and it scares me that she gained that much strength. But to be honest, she is a charismatic person, but hearing her say dumb stuff, knowing that she is intelligent enough to know that what she says is bullshit makes it even harder. At least the BSW was the answer if you was disappointed with the existing older parties and you didnt wanted to vote the far-right AfD. But in the end they only had the two topics refugees and Russian war which both cant be solved by a federal state government... These 3 election were the last ones, with the exception of the city-state Hamburg, till the next national election for whole Germany. To see that all parties in the Bundestag (national level government) integrate phrases from the AfD, in the hope to get some voters from them makes me sad (exception the left-wing "Die Linke" but they having internal problems as already said). Also that they keep saying, "Die Parteien der Mitte / Die Parteien des demokratischen Spektrums" - the parties of the political center / the parties of democratic spectrum which includes CDU, SPD, FDP, the green party and some count them in, some out - the left-wing "Die Linke" against the AfD. I also want to add that there isnt a big "party-binding" in eastern Germany. If you are a 70 year old man or woman, then you only know the "western parties" since a bit more than 30 years. Before hat, there was the socialist dictatorship of the SED. So the voters also tend to change the party they want to vote. So if they think the party they elected did a bad job, then they will try another party in the next election. There are other effects in western Germany - there a 70 years old person already know at least the SPD, CDU and FDP for their whole life and many stick to one party since many many many years, doesnt mind if they do good or bad in their opinions. But thats especially a phenomenon for the older people. And now instead of the parties solving problems they keep saying, we need to fight the far-right or the problems with education, rooming and more only appeared because of refugees is bullshit. The people arent interested in major morality, they are interested in fixing existing problems. The refugess/migration quastion is a big one since 9 years now and its still not solved. The infrastructure is desolate in many parts of Germany. The prices for rooming in cities cant be payed. The wish for many people to own an own little house is also nearly impossible at the moment, its far too expensive - you will need to work your whole life off if you want to buy one, especially in more populated areas. A big point here are taxes and increased prices for building materials. The digitalisation is not really here - government offices say their processes are digital if you can request something online and then they print everything out and then putting it into a folder and answer with a letter instead of an email or a online-portal for the answers. Also we pay the the highest prices for the fewest performance to get internet access. There fiber-cable building up is also way way way too slow - you pay over 40€ for 50Mbit/s download... Additional, like every office application takes longer than building pyramids in Egypt, if you can get an appointmant at all. Prices for food increased, taxes on staple foods even increases them more. The transformation from the economy and the electricity to renewable energy is way too slow. The quesation of climate protection is also very difficult, because the parties before slept on invest into renewables and climate friendly building and prefered to give the money to the fossil ressourece companies. That lead the national government party of "Die Grünen" (green party) to want to make very quick changes but most of the people cant afford them, they just dont have enough money for quick and radical changes... that lead to a huge decrease in the popularity of the green party, alongside the eternal conflicts in the government coalition. The question about public trafic, especially the train situationm with the DB is horrible. Many trains are too late and sometimes you are happy if the trains arrives at all and on top of this great service they make the ticket prices more expensive for like every year... These are all topics the people want to get solved. Many arent interesed in moral debates - they just want change, so they seek for somebody who promises this to them, even if they cant really solve the problems... The future will show which way the federal states and the whole country will walk on.
@AlLiberaliАй бұрын
I think BSW would agree to a confidence and supply deal
@retrictumrectus1010Ай бұрын
If I am the one making the table, to help those who do not know better, I would put the 2nd vote on the first column, and then the total seat won on the second column, and then an equal sign, and then the 1st vote seats and then the "extra seats" or "remaining seats". I wont call the "extra seats" "2nd vote seats". It makes things less confusing. But maybe this may not work at specific cases.
@glittermarsian5054Ай бұрын
6:08 ok so it's 5% at least required for getting seats, but these four parties that fell short could potentially have won a couple of mandates through 1st vote seats? If they were largest parties in a singular voting districts? Not that it's likely but still interesting.
@VillaDishАй бұрын
It was actually expected for some of them to have gotten it. In fact, I believe two of them had gotten first in constituencies in the last Brandenburg election
@glittermarsian5054Ай бұрын
@@VillaDish Thanks for the reply!
@animeshkumar1684Ай бұрын
Thx for the coverage
@blitzkrieg2928Ай бұрын
How will the SPD ever recover ?
@Anas-12236Ай бұрын
If scholz wants an comback he needs to make the döner for 2€
@tigercasey1554Ай бұрын
Federal system nicely explained. Thanks.
@GhreinosАй бұрын
*Doctor Hans-Christoph Berndt 😉
@RamonColon-le9pgАй бұрын
Olaf...That there Holy Thaaang! Your P.M. is Yahh..Jahh! Say hello to the Ms. And President!
@hilestoby2628Ай бұрын
From what I have heard, the SPD may have it where they will have a possible close margin of victory. The SPD will likely lose some seats, but retain the 1st position in numbers. In 2025, their will likely be a different prime minister that will replace Scholz given his lack of popularity by voters and his own party members. The I do believe Germany will move more center right in politics like France.
@julianengel492Ай бұрын
The difficult political landscape makes easy answers very attractive. So the opposition and extreme parties are profiting strongly, which can be seen all over Europe. In the end everyone is playing the media game, the media who overly reported on migration topics rather than focusing on actual problems and politicans who have been influenced through lobbies so that people don't feel represented anymore and finally voters who believe that its worth it that history repeats itself for some weird lesson they want to teach the politicans.
@THEBEEEANSSАй бұрын
Commenters, can you stop whining about people calling the (insert party) far-(insert direction)... For Five Seconds???
@MijnAfspeellijst1234Ай бұрын
You do realise that AfD is THEY far right party. If you start glorifying the nazi regime you are on the wrong side of history.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.Ай бұрын
@@MijnAfspeellijst1234 They are not Far-Right and if they would glorify the nazi regime, then they would be Far-Left socialists.
@TurtleChad1Ай бұрын
People are tired of open borders
@YouAreStillNotablazeАй бұрын
Turtle chad always showing up to support the worst.
@MrVistaVistaАй бұрын
nah im just tired of borders ngl, not them being open
@raybarry4307Ай бұрын
@@YouAreStillNotablaze Yes, Germans standing up for their country is just terrible. Whose country do they think this is-Theirs??? 🤨🤨🤨
@YouAreStillNotablazeАй бұрын
@@raybarry4307 said the literal Nazis. Got news for you, it didn't work out. It never works out.
@TheBoobanАй бұрын
Not that tired. They continue to vote for more, more, more!
@VUK71Ай бұрын
Question: How are the representatives of the proportional vote chosen?
@EchteSauerkartoffelАй бұрын
We would be happier with Boris Pistorius (our defence minister) to be the candidat for the SPD then Scholz. He is the only defence minister who didnt f**k things up and doesnt have brain issues. Its so sad to see the state of Germany.
@GhreinosАй бұрын
Bruh, it's not a difficult job, especially if you get 100 billion dollars, despite our economy crumbling.
@fedyx1544Ай бұрын
Damn, this pistorius guy really turned his life around after unaliving his girlfriend
@ninototo1Ай бұрын
@@fedyx1544wait what
@AgomaculeАй бұрын
@@ninototo1it's a joke about the athlete oscar pistorius
@ninototo1Ай бұрын
@@Agomacule Thanks
@kmuralikrishna1998Ай бұрын
What if a party gets no second votes but party candidates win 1st vote in some places? Will they be taken away?
@VillaDishАй бұрын
If you win a constitency during the 1st votes, that seat is ensured even if you don't get votes in 2nd vote or pass the threshold
@robespierre3364Ай бұрын
Everyone in Germany hates him
@nettcologne9186Ай бұрын
No
@radicalesotericcentristАй бұрын
@@nettcologne9186 I voted for him and regret it now.
@p_pingu7809Ай бұрын
32% dont, as shown in the video at 3:31... And the other 68% dont hate him. We could have a much worse chancellor (Friedrich Merz...)
@streifffaro6227Ай бұрын
What happens if there is no coolition between SPD & BSW? Or more specifically if there is no coolition at all?
@christianderbyshire744Ай бұрын
I’m just happy the greens are out
@gideonwlindАй бұрын
I wish Germany had a more pro Ukraine right wing party like Swedens Swedish Democrats.
@XY-uc1twАй бұрын
Swedens should pay support for Ukraine alone. Swedish tax money goes to Ukraine....
@gideonwlindАй бұрын
@@XY-uc1tw I love supporting a democracy against a imperialist warmongering bastard like putin. We can use the money we spend on migrants to help Ukraine instead.
@triceratops7084Ай бұрын
It's called the CDU.Also stop using my tax dollars for Ukraine
@gideonwlindАй бұрын
@@triceratops7084 CDU cannot be compared to the Sweden democrats
@idiocracy_666Ай бұрын
@@gideonwlindDepends... CSU is part of CDU. Also CDU with its right wing free voters alliance is very close to AfD. IT is always the conservatives paving the way for the radical right. I support Ukraine but unlike Ukraine I would not follow the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend policy" as it fuels russian propaganda and may harm support of the liberals everywhere.
@JacobRashapАй бұрын
Can someone explain why SPD received in proportional vote 13 seats(with 30 percent), while the AFD only 5(with 29 percent)? Didn’t really understand how it works.
@sourabstyles3118Ай бұрын
The system may be biased to stop AFD 😅😅 . Just Kidding 😅
@retrictumrectus1010Ай бұрын
The table cannot properly capture how this thing works. 29.2% is 30 seats and 30.9% is 32 seats. AfD already got 25 seats from the first vote, so they got 5 extra. Meanwhile, SPD got 19 seats from the 1st vote, which gave them 13 more seats. SPD = 19 + 13 = 32 (30.9%) AfD = 25 + 5 = 30 (29.2%) BSW = 0 + 14 = 14 (13.5%) and so on The 2nd vote determines the overall proportion and the 1st vote determines which person gets directly elected.
@MellonVeganАй бұрын
He literally explained it in the video.
@JacobRashapАй бұрын
@@retrictumrectus1010 thank you
@JacobRashapАй бұрын
@@MellonVegan If I understood from his explanation, I wouldn’t have wrote the comment… genius. You could at least add a time stomp for other people too(maybe they didn’t notice).
@fredrikjonsson-bj5ruАй бұрын
Chad AFD
@RyoGuy17Ай бұрын
I’m a little confused, AfD won in 25 direct mandates while SPD wins in 19 and then AfD gets a little less than 2% less of the 2nd vote than SPD but only gets 5 seats while SPD gets 13? How is that fair, would appreciate an explanation.
@VillaDishАй бұрын
The direct constituency is meant to ensure that local voices get represented, its not meant to be a form of proportionality, so once constituency votes are elected, the rest of the seats are distributed by the vote of the state, ie the Brandenburg one rather than the constituency one. Since SPD won in %, the seats are distributed so that proportionality is clear.
@Travel_and_music_shortsАй бұрын
Let's have a debate why both Spd and AfD sucks ? Id rather vote for SPD since they arent AfD and i think thats why they won
@darkkiller1092Ай бұрын
The SPD should go back to being a party of Socialism
@JeferonConorАй бұрын
I agree left wing populism and civic nationalism I think is appropriate to counter fascism and authoritarian leftism. However, I am mostly liberal on policy, so I am not a fan of socialism unless highly checked. I like how macron managed the whole France situation pretty recently.
@XZaRxJILaXАй бұрын
The SPD is famous for not doing that. Starting before WW1 and even now they still refuse to e.g. socialize housing, That's way there were always parties that splint from it like USPD (~1910) and Die Linke (~2000) that are actually socialist.
@kaanyasin3733Ай бұрын
@@JeferonConor Macron is the biggest fuck up in the 5th french history, nobody likes him at all. He makes policy for millionaires
@bloodwargaming3662Ай бұрын
@@JeferonConorby electing a rwinger whose party only got like 9% of the vote?
@JeferonConorАй бұрын
@@bloodwargaming3662 I think preserving the liberal governance for as long as possible is better for society as long as it is within the rule of law and democracy. Once the democratic socialists beat the fascists and us which they should, they will enjoy support from us liberals when it’s their turn to govern. Time have changed, we are no longer on opposite sides as we face a common threat to our collective liberty and way of life from fascism.
@surfacepro3328Ай бұрын
Germany and the entire world tbh needs something like the 'new deal' in 1930s US
@kw2142Ай бұрын
I think all these German videos call for a new channel : "Germany Made Simple" channel hahaha
@Pepek94Ай бұрын
SPD-BSW coalition is maybe possible. BSW is syncretic and big tent.
@rphb5870Ай бұрын
possibly? according to my calculations it is necessary, it is the only way for the SPD to get a majority
@Hardcore_RemixerАй бұрын
Another cordon sanitare? It will only postpone the problem unless something is done by the governing parties to appease the AfD voter base to make them stop voting AfD. A certain issue which plagues Europe.
@pasci_leiАй бұрын
What are you talking about? The BSW is a Neo-Stalinist / National Bolshevik party.
@tpower1912Ай бұрын
@@Hardcore_Remixer BSW is anti-immigration so they have that opportunity. I doubt SPD will take it though.
@rphb5870Ай бұрын
@@Hardcore_Remixer In Denmark the Danish equivalent of the AfD, the DF gained power in 2001 over 20 years ago, when they joined a government coalition of the old conservative and liberal party. The social democrats were only able to gain power back in 2019 when the social democratic PM decided to abandon their long held opposition to nationalist ideas and incorporate them into their platform
@opinionmy6122Ай бұрын
These elections are so disappointing. So close, AFD is so close to winning. Its ok tho, hopefully they'll have better luck next time
@FrancJTАй бұрын
regional elections*, not local
@coall5002Ай бұрын
Btw. One of the arguments why the AFD is "far right" is because they say Germany belongs to Germans and Christians not muslim migrants.
@stuttgartpioАй бұрын
It's secular state, doesnt belong to christians nor muslims
@ninototo1Ай бұрын
they have literal neonazis in their midst
@vampjiyrАй бұрын
or maybe beacuse they defend the nazis
@julianfitz806Ай бұрын
You never said that Woidke did not allow Scholz to join him on any event. Shity leader kill partys. as usual
@MrInsdorАй бұрын
Die Grünen (und Linken) zu verlieren wars nich wert. Lieber ne Koalition aus 3-4 Parteien und die AfD ist stärkste Partei als dieser Pseudoerfolg von "Die AfD wurde nicht Erster!" bei dem a) kaum Koalitionen zusammenkommen b) alle möglichen Koalitionspartner rechts bis mitte sind
@radicalesotericcentristАй бұрын
Genau mein Humor! Wer glaubt, dass die SPD in 2024 und das BSW, Splitterpartei der Linken, Nachfolger der PDS und Nachfolger der SED nicht links sind, hat den Schuss nicht gehört. Für ihre diskriminierenden Ansichten bezüglich Hautfarbe und Geschlecht haben Linkspartei und Grüne außerdem genau das bekommen, was sie verdient haben. Lange hat es gedauert.
@MARINA4163Ай бұрын
Not surprised.
@AlainDupetАй бұрын
The Greens are out❗But why❓
@Mem3Bo1iiАй бұрын
Because they are very unpopular. The Reason is the minister of foreign things and the economics minister in the Federal government. They suck
@ralfklonowski3740Ай бұрын
Technically, because they failed to get 5% of the second vote. This rule was introduced to kepp the parliaments from being split up into countless minor fractions, which would make the forming of a working gouvernment even harder. Politically because their federal mimister for economics, Robert Habeck, is very unpopular and because some of their central policies, f.ex. making heating facilities more environment friendly and their positive stance on immigration, are pretty unpopular. While this is partly due to exaggerated propaganda in parts of the national press, one does get the feeling that they lost touch with the daily struggle of ordinary citizens.
@lipingrahman6648Ай бұрын
Because they are a gaggle of superstitious fools.
@pasci_leiАй бұрын
@@Mem3Bo1ii Habeck is one of the most popular ministers. The only one who is more popular is Pistorius.
@pasci_leiАй бұрын
The Greens were never really popular in the east in the first place. So it was not really a surprise.
@georgerake5821Ай бұрын
According to horse shoe theory, AFD and BSW should be possible
@d.airhorn3702Ай бұрын
Enlightened ahh take
@FlaremoonDarkhoovesАй бұрын
Anti-Centrists be like:
@adrianundjustinskekskanal3338Ай бұрын
This was no win for Scholz especially BC woidke didn't allow him to show up in Brandenburg to support him BC he is to unpopular
@gloriawilson4691Ай бұрын
I pray that the fear of the far right here in the US motivates voters to vote for Harris. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@yasirumer2893Ай бұрын
Party names are very funny afd sdb abcd rkst 😂😂😂😂😂and by the way in Europe hate for us muslims and Ukraine is on the same level almost 😂😂😂😂
@robrobchen2343Ай бұрын
the whole election was a yes or no to the AFD many old people I voted SPD who otherwise don't vote Go
@haiio1348Ай бұрын
thats exactly 44 seats PRO-Russia and 44 seats CON-Russia
@ganh222Ай бұрын
Why so much support for Russia in Germany?
@konplayzАй бұрын
@@ganh222 germans are seemingly wary of sending trillions to ukraine. how unreasonable of them?!
@Dan-kr9bmАй бұрын
@@ganh222Specifically in East Germany. For various reasons, including that they lived in a Russia-dominated dictatorship for half a century.
@MellonVeganАй бұрын
@@ganh222In the East of Germany. Bc the East is politically underrepresented, poorer, aging, and generally worse off. They always had a party that kind of served as their regional protest vote. It used to be Die Linke (literally the party of the GDR's one party system, just rebranded and much more moderate today) and then it became the AfD. Oh and populist parties have a tendency to just advocate for the opposite of what the government is doing. The AfD is notorious for this.
@GM-gb1euАй бұрын
Every party in Germany is pro-Russia. They are historical friends.
@GodsGreatestАй бұрын
Is this a reupload?
@vladimirholi5121Ай бұрын
happy for Greens 😂😂
@campsbay1990Ай бұрын
Historic???? Germany made simple
@romantroshkin3142Ай бұрын
Is there a center-left party with support to Ukraine?
@atstrollz6875Ай бұрын
SPD
@romantroshkin3142Ай бұрын
@@atstrollz6875:(
@frankyboy1131Ай бұрын
Comeback? Which comeback??? 😂😂 Social Democrats have been rulng the Federal State of Brandenburg for 28 years. MP Woidke is rather popular, and Brandenburg is the only boom region hete.He gathered a lot of votes from other traditional parties which he cannibalized: Greens, Conservatives, Liberals. Out of 8 parties actually represented and many more competing across the whole country, only four made it into the regional Brandenburg Parliament. Scholz' government is as weak as it was before, Woidke's SPD is in small advance over AfD. Liberals and Greens who are part of his gov will try to distinguish themselves and will start to bitch around, while sociodemodrats will start to throw money out of the windows by stupid subsidies programs, like they always do. Just wait and see ... But things have changed in this country.
@PBFI-SNIPERАй бұрын
if look result with no deep analyses that's a win for SPD if use a deep analyses and thinking in medium term the results is good for AFD
@VillaDishАй бұрын
Wow rhat came out quick haha! :)
@EUMadeSimpleАй бұрын
Tired now hahah.
@2GB-of-AnonymousАй бұрын
Woidke was a real strategist! He explicitly uninvited Scholz to Brandenburg elections. So the general discontent wouldn't affect the local SPD. And it kinda worked. Of course there was also foul play by the media, like in the previous two elections, but hey that is quite normal here.
@matrimoniobarriosbauer5942Ай бұрын
Why AfD got only 5 seats on the 2nd vote? On the example? Math doesn’t make sense.
@VillaDishАй бұрын
The direct constituency is meant to ensure that local voices get represented, its not meant to be a form of proportionality, so once constituency votes are elected, the rest of the seats are distributed by the vote of the state, ie the Brandenburg one rather than the constituency one. Since SPD won in %, the seats are distributed so that proportionality is clear AfD won more direct constituencies, however in actual vote, SPD had more votes which is why SPD was given more.
@ttbr7687Ай бұрын
SPD + BSW
@igeljaegerАй бұрын
Anyone calling AfD "far right" doesnt know what that even means. Might as well call CDU in the 90s far right. And not calling BSW "far left" or "communist" is showing this channels biases even further.
@stevenobinator2229Ай бұрын
CORRECT, THERE VERY EXISTENCE IS ALREADY SAVING GERMANY
@catcatcattac-d7cАй бұрын
far right supporters aleways say they are not far right. You probably do not support lgbt, women or human rights at all and are a nationalist xenophobe.
@okok-tm7xsАй бұрын
@@catcatcattac-d7c and left wingers make a lot of assumptions. also don't you mean lgbtqia+maxpro
@karliszemitis3356Ай бұрын
@@stevenobinator2229wow, i have heard this few times before… wait is this 1930 all over again?
@stevenobinator2229Ай бұрын
@@karliszemitis3356 They arent nazis, they will talk to everyone and make compromises. Youve been brainwashed, think for yourself. Meloni was label mussolini, now she's way less extreme. Come on
@albevanhanoyАй бұрын
5% threshold for an assembly with 90 seats is absurd.
@henrychen8618Ай бұрын
2:48 if 13 seats is 30.9%, then 14 seats is 13.5% and 5 seats is 29.2%? Sorry I’m slow learner. This does not add up to me
@melonentypdersaftige8446Ай бұрын
The seats of the 1st are taken in consideration to balance everything out if you look at the final seat count you see that everything adds up accordingly. The system Is very complicated to ensure fairness. If you are interested in how that works watch some other videos over German election system. Thank you for asking it is important to ask important questions too protect democracy.
@henrychen8618Ай бұрын
@@melonentypdersaftige8446 Thank you! I will try to do some research.
@kunalkarjee8134Ай бұрын
System is rigged so that right parties don’t win. And to ensure only left fascists like SPD can win.
@spelli9958Ай бұрын
@@kunalkarjee8134 It's only objectively rigged for the parties under 5%.
The landes dont have any influence on military policy right? So why would the BSW and SPD disagreement on Ukraine be a problem? The only disagreements I can imagine is the building of migrant centers/housing and climate policy
@ninototo1Ай бұрын
good question. BSW is pro Russia in general, so maybe there are some domestic policies they could implement.
@KevinAdams26Ай бұрын
Can you please fix the Discord link? I'd like to join but it always says unable to accept invitation. Thank you!
@christianefiorito3204Ай бұрын
He stopped warmongerin and wants a diplomatic solution in Ukraine. That is why he won Brandenburg.