Germany Suffers ft. The F4F ICE COLD KILLA

[@PixCro]

4:48 bro mastering the new multipath parameters

[@pinngg6907]

Can't hit you if you're under the ground!

[@RienRocks]

Yep. Thats for sure

[@malithaw]

Comedy gold

[@oscaromeara8193]

The best thing the F-4F ICE brought into the game was that cold hard wallpaper/loading screen

[@methal0-111]

The Phantom loading screen goes so fking hard

[@kiranplays2688]

Ah yes the Silver lining..!!

[@confusedspartan3525]

And the skins! The f4f is probs the drippiest phantom

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

The best thing is that its finally a F-4E with a correct cockpit and not just a copy paste of the F-4C cockpit. Gaijin. Please. Fucking. Update. The. Other. F-4E. Cockpits.

[@seductive_fishstick8961]

The new loading screen has no right to go that hard tbh

[@Burgner68]

If DEFYN starts making memes in his video a regular thing ill turn my life around

[@gaijinatemyhusky4384]

fr

[@FinnIstGut]

@@gaijinatemyhusky4384 what happened to your husky?

[@gaijinatemyhusky4384]

@@FinnIstGut gaijin fucking ate it 💀

[@sule.A]

Who rememberes "nah I'd win"

[@Open_Pack]

Agree so much he needs more memes

[@Hadgerz]

They finally added it. But in true Gaijin 'be careful what you wish for' fashion.

[@bagelmaster2498]

There’s a few things they can do, but it was always gonna be like this. I was saying that fox3s we’re gonna completely change the game for the longest time and here we are

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@bagelmaster2498i dont think it was the fox3 that changed the game but the reduction of multipathing

[@thencrranger5628]

what's wrong? maybe if people hate the plane don't request it in the first place

[@takemikazuchishuichi2269]

​​@@thencrranger5628 people requesting this plane couple of years ago and fine with AIM7 only. But they add it with AIM120 face gen 4 fighter with better armament and HMD make this plane DOA. Even in forum people already mention to make this plane as event because it will be really DOA when come into the game with current meta.

[@bagelmaster2498]

@@thencrranger5628 they could have added it in a better fashion but you’re not entirely wrong, it was never going to be competitive

[@peanutraider8654]

This thing was just oiling you up for the F.3 late.

[@gaijinatemyhusky4384]

lmao

[@h.a8681]

At least the Tornado is fast and has a ton of countermeasures

[@semsjo2364]

@@h.a8681but it turns like shit and has a much worse radar :)

[@peanutraider8654]

@@h.a8681 BOL pods are garbage, it will never reach its top speed with more than 5 mins of fuel, and is the only jet in the game which will make u sweat trying to dodge an AIM 54A.

[@meanmotherstuka6630]

The tornado is ass but it’s not quite phantom ass

[@Registered_Simp]

Gaijin: "We're finally adding the F-4F ICE" And then the monkey's paw curled...

[@theDarkside798]

100% agree with you on the Benelux Situation. Not adding Dutch to Germany and instead giving it to france is insanly hilarious even for gajubbles circumstances.

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

WWII Momento.

[@joshharris2793]

Germany and the Dutch have a joint military, it was beyond fucking stupid that France would get it and not Germany especially with the gap Germany is gonna have that France won’t

[@-..----.--.-...]

Also, there are only 3 dutch planes out of 10, and not even the f-16...

[@theDarkside798]

@@-..----.--.-... the Dutch use the F-16AM. Would have been a nice fit. Could have merged the MiG-27 and the SU-22 tree into one and add a Dutch tree with some low tier planes and the f-16.

[@martijn9568]

@@miquelescribanoivars5049Jup, when you take WW2 into account, France or Britain makes sense. (I suspect that if the subtree was added to Britain the backlash would have been less, because some really seem to disdain France🤷‍♂️)

[@Squeaky_Ben]

You know, I clamored for this thing to be added and get Sparrows instead of AMRAAMs. Then, when the Mig29 and such came, I thought "okay, all nations get their subpar ARH slingers first, F4F ICE now please" and it did not come. And now, you get an F-4E at 12.7 without HMD (which even the much lower F-4J gets mind you), the worse version of the AIM-9M and low countermeasures to boot, at a BR higher than the F-15A.

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

Could the ICE even carry AIM-7's in the first place, though?

[@gato_capitalista]

​@miquelescribanoivars5049 most likely no, but again, is not like this barrier hasn't been broken multiple times before

[@GewelReal]

which means we need decompression to 15.0

[@dudka_i]

HMS was pretty much unique to navy phantoms. US navy were the only users of that piece of tech, and then they forgot about ever fielding something like that for 30 years.

[@Squeaky_Ben]

@@miquelescribanoivars5049 Does it matter? Germany not having a NATO air superiority fighter for such a long time has been a massive problem for quite some time, so making concessions like only giving sparrows to the F-15A was not too much if you ask me.

[@b.tsitelauri]

It's not even dead on arrival, it's decomposed in spot!

[@HiboGentoo]

it arrived in molecular dust, not even alive, not even existing

[@samuelealessi234]

0:56 AMONG

[@Finnix.]

Random AMOGUS jumpscare

[@PerciusLive]

The whole stock grind this is very true. It took me 6 hours to unlock 9Ls, 7Ms, gsuit, and counter measures yesterday on the F15J(M). 5 of those 6 were before I unlocked 7Ms and Gsuit. I was essentially hiding behind my team waiting for someone to overcommit and then 3rd party, but even still i had countless rounds where im 0-1 because you get snowballed too quick and swatted out the sky

[@evo3s75]

i completely agree with your take on the Benelux. Belgium is a good fit for France (tho they have a lot that can be added) but Netherlands should just be added to Germany, we work together with them the most, our mechanized forces are integrated into the Bundeswehr, our cultures are very similar (same with language) and 98% of our fucking vehicles are of German origin. (and I mean, in our national anthem it's said that our royals are of German blood lol)

[@panzernerd8486]

Or perhaps we could have seen like Portugal or Spain

[@reso372]

Totally agree with that stock grind rant at the end. Im fairly new to the game and honestly thats one of my biggest frustrations with picking up new planes, especially in top tier. Its less of an issue on lower tiers where you pretty much get all the weaponry you need from the start and it also doesnt take so long to unlock things. But in jets its almost mandatory that you have a g-suit and missiles in order to be competitive. I think that if they truly cared about the player-experience they should give them an option to not go through the stock grind that doesnt involve spending 60 dollars or however much it is. For example they could make it so you can buy all modules/upgrades with Convertable XP x5 of what all modules cost + like 1 million SL or something along those lines. (values are just examples and could be lowered/increased) So if your planes upgrades cost 400k total you´ll have to spend like 2 million Convertable XP + 1 Million SL. That would make it so free to play players, or players that dont spend hundreds or thousands of euros on the game also get some use out of the Convertable XP and make their game experience at least a bit less frustrating. Idk if this is an idea that has been thrown around before or if its something that gaijin has already ruled out, but i still felt like sharing. Would be interesting to hear the yours and the communitys thoughts on this.

[@Zawmbbeh]

as much as I wish they’d do SL/cXP I know they won’t because that would suck out a significant portion of profit from their game

[@reso372]

​@@Zawmbbeh Yeah, thats true sadly

[@ouiouibaguette35]

yea the stock grind is rough asf rn, i just got the grippen a which doesnt get any radar missles it genuinely unplayable to keep getting uptiered to 13.0 being forced to hug the deck with such good flight performance and not being able to use any of it befor i either get amraam'd, the enemy team is already dead to my teams amraams or they just easily flare of the stock 2 9'ls i get. i would honestly just maybe make it to when u apply fox-3 missles ur br goes up so the stock grinders or ir, shar missle enjoyers dont have to deal with the constant fox-3 spam.

[@panzernerd8486]

I literally have 18 million convertable XP despite playing since beginning last year and I would love that idea

[@reso372]

@@panzernerd8486 yeah, like i said before, even if the conversion rate would be really high like x5 or even higher it would still be better then nothing. The people that spend money will still spend the money and safe the SL cost required for the free version.

[@Loudward__]

I'm over here jamming my WEZ. I got 120s on my tip right now. I'm just WEZzing my shit, I'm larping hard as fuck man. I'm a freak man like for real

[@gansior4744]

Im jamming it. And well, by "it" I meant, my WEZ

[@KilaWestGaming]

Saw "Killa" and instantly clicked

[@nilsypiggaming572]

just read the title quickly and my dumbass thought it was a kila+defyn collab

[@epicgooseman]

now you have to do a reserve to top tier for the f4-f ICE line

[@Bf109F-4lover]

Yes! Do a reserve to top tier F-4F ICE video!

[@dragonburst8489]

My dumbass thought it was a collab lmao

[@candymonster3300]

You know it’s a bad plane, when defyn dies in the video

[@TehCheezMan]

Yeah I don't think I've seen Defyn die in a video ever 🤔

[@mcohanov]

F-4F ICE would be good if added with "Air Superiority" or "Alpha Strike" as test platform for amraam but this would make US mains scream with power of a quasar.

[@fark0ll_27]

TRu

[@vigwik]

I guess they will put Swiss and Austria air force into the German tree in some time. There will probably be an F-16 and F-18 at some point

[@spongegobler3449]

Nah because that means Germany would be competitive at top tier.

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

​@@spongegobler3449 As if Germany ain't going to get the Eurofighter and the F-35A at some point 😂

[@LarryPigeon1]

​@@miquelescribanoivars5049if russia and usa has ufos maybe

[@spongegobler3449]

@@miquelescribanoivars5049 You see, France and England would probably get theirs first because Gaijin finds a way to

[@flyingtower]

@@miquelescribanoivars5049 Sure! Germany will get the Typhoon 2 patches after the F-22 drops and at a higher BR.

[@Mr.Crow1984]

Gajin -Decides to finally add a top requested plane -Adds it in a patch with planes way stronger than it -Puts it in the same BR -Baffles even the dev stream hosts -leaves

[@user-ee1fn4vt8b]

Counterpoint: It has a happy face on the back.

[@user-bm2xf6io3c]

0:55 Thank you, Defyn.

[@historyrevisited1803]

DEFYN could straight be a stand up comedian

[@poggergen1937]

Watching Defyn sling amraams at the same distance he would a Phoenix is scary. 😭

[@zayf1760]

The tragic thing about the whole Benelux situation is that us french player didn't want it and have no reason to play it. M2K-5F is straight up better than what is arguably the best F16, so why bother?

[@chickendude1695]

Just got back into WT which means back to DEFYN again, glad you havent died in a biking accident yet!

[@adriancoric1721]

if ur fox 3 capable at 13.0 and stock, then gaijin needs to give us at least 2 fox3s so we can at least somewhat effectively grind out our stock planes

[@tnankie]

or at least give you chaff as stock.

[@timb3499]

This is the obvious solution. It will take Gaijin 2 years to figure it out.

[@kurandor1193]

"BuT fOx 3 At loWEr BR wOuLd bE uNbaLanCeD." The AV8B Plus has four AIM120s at 12.3. Have fun fighting that in your F4S or Mig-23 ML.

[@carsonlau9326]

Tornado at 11.3:

[@carsonlau9326]

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 it face F14 and AV8+ that have ARM

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@carsonlau9326 Ah, makes sense now.

[@kurandor1193]

@@carsonlau9326 Only in Ground battles. In AIrRB it is at 12.7.

[@carsonlau9326]

@@kurandor1193 which plane?

[@jansatamme6521]

I just found out the magic sauce to having fun in the f4j, now its joever

[@Smittius]

It's great seeing people make realizations in real time about forced changes to Ait to Air tactics resulting from technology advances.

[@bagelmaster2498]

For the Benelux thing, as you said the Netherlands military is legit basically a part of Germany. I don’t understand why the fuck they gave France two f16s

[@sirbonobo3907]

bcause gayjin sucks ass

[@thombrick]

The Dutch and German brigades are joined together under the NATO banner. It's not one nation's army that's suddenly part of the other, that would be absolutely stupid.

[@bagelmaster2498]

@@thombrick I never said it was? But they are so closely intertwined that they are a closer match to any nation getting a subtree than we’ve had before in game other than exsoviet states. I mean hell the leopard 2s that France will get with the dumbass Benelux ground from the Netherlands are legit just German army leo2s that the Netherlands use.

[@evo3s75]

the 2 F-16's are both Belgian, so it's still fine

[@i_hate_sparksrafa8586]

Gwrmany wilk get canadian F-18

[@Epic_candle]

Gaijin really should separate the fox-3 carriers from the fox-2/IRCCM carriers

[@mainhalo117]

Just get better

[@RT42069]

Every Fox 3 jet is at 12.7-13.0, and the only ones at 12.7 are the ones with not so good flight performance (AV-8B, Tornado F-3, Sea Harrier, etc)

[@georgefeldman5647]

⁠@@RT42069and the irccm carriers are 12.0-12.7 lol. Fox 3 carrriers should be in an entirely seperate tier, not just 0.3 br higher at best. The best airframes with Fox-3s should be 13.7, if not even higher so they don’t even fight non-irccm capable missiles. Gaijin somehow managed to compress top tier even more, with jets that don’t even have irccm like the F-16A fighting all the fox-3 carriers.

[@srvaughan2502]

​@@georgefeldman5647that is why we need different BR for stock vs spaded vehicles. Stock F16c can be 12.3/12.7 whatever, spaded should be 13.7

[@bruh-gu9sb]

​@mainhalo117 your dumb comment got ignored cuz you're worthless and not worth anyone's time 😂

[@tijldenotter8246]

I've just stock grinded this from stock to AMRAAMS, basically 1/50 (k/d). The stock missles are unusable with everyone having 100+ flares and half a brain cell. This thing either should drop to 12.3-12.0 with its AIM-120 amount reduced to 2 or get them stock and an option to grind for better missles.

[@Lonech]

Drop BR? nonono, this is hugely a compression issue. All the other Fox-3 carriers need to move up and put the lower techs out of the way.

[@felixgaede6754]

The ICE was in fact delayed

[@nricolas360]

I love those jump cuts so much x)

[@mihirabhyankar2277]

im a germany main, literally every nation got a 13.0 plane except germany, most got two planes with Fox3 compatibility and planes with 6+ Fox 3s. Feels the only reason germany got this plane was coz they HAD to give Fox3 to every tech tree. Playing germany feels like being harry potter in the Dudley family, live under the stairs and get the crumbs from Fat Papa Gaijin. Literally every even remotely powerful air/ground vehicle germany has either had its balls cut off (FlakRakRad, PUMA), or is just ded on arrival, like feeding scraps to orphans. I stopped playing after this update as i got the Mig29 for Germany after a huge grind 2 days ago. I know that both migs that Germany has are sub par, have no ARH and only carry 6 missiles. Im not even gonna try to play this dogshit game until gaijin gives some respect and love that germany players deserve. Hoping for a Eurofighter to finally screw the Su27 and F16s that gaijin loves so much.

[@legamernat]

The first german mig 29 is very good at 12.0 The f4f is as you said not good, only 90CMs is not enough, not powerful enough engines = not super fast, but at least you get 4 fox 3 + a very good radar Also in GRB this thing is 11.7, so the perfect br to combine with leos, without facing 13.0 aircrafts

[@erikkusters378]

my take on this update is all planes with fox 3`s need to go in their own separate BR. all of them to like 15.0 so they dont even start to see all the planes without fox`3s. its all shiny stuff they added but for top tier air this might have been the worst upate they added so far.

[@spray916]

At least it looks really cool. I always loved the German F-4 camos.

[@TheMango265]

Aww, it has a happy face in the back!

[@farllama08]

The new top tier should come from stock with at least 2 Fox-3, it is a pain to try to get close to enemies in this meta

[@derritter3873]

I really do hope they change the stock grind for top tiers because like you said, it will be atrocious. I’m 40k away from the F-15J(M), and I’m dreading what will happen once I get it. When I was grinding the MICAs on the Mirage earlier it was bad because I was fighting people with Fox-3s without them, so I can only assume how horrid it will be to fight Fox-3 slinging jets with a jet that has no radar missiles, no chaff, and only 2 9Ms for at least 5 games. I’m starting to think I should just GE the thing, but at the same time, that would be a waste.

[@Burgner68]

Lovely little thumbnail Easter egg letting us know just how much the big man likes this plane

[@rodericklenz5030]

Just going to point out that the game DOES have two very convenient solutions to the stock grind problem: assault arcade and sim. They're pretty quick, easy, low-pressure ways to run through a unlock the mods you need, get some 300% boosters and learn a bit about the plane. Importantly it's much more FUN than trying to stock grind in ARB.

[@mikemandalorian9226]

SIM is easy? On jets you will just get owned by tryhards grinding easy money lol

[@rodericklenz5030]

@@mikemandalorian9226 Yeah, but rewards are so high you can play a single match, be completely useless, die a lot, make easy money and unlock mods. You can either die once in ARB for 2-3k RP or you can earn 4-5k RP per death in sim...

[@iwyrilja]

Use the IR HMD in MiG-29s and Su-27s, you can get a lock with the IR HMD above 10km and then switch to radar basically giving you a secret ~20km HMD

[@h.a8681]

13.0 is far too low for top tier, how the fuck is a F15C only 0.3 BR above this thing

[@zdopezz3744]

0:56 caught me off guard ngl hahah

[@parmesancheez6087]

adding the f14 to the game and its consequences have been an a disaster for top tier

[@alphacentaurivenus8037]

I personally banned Golan heights air spawn, I had that map almost every single game before I banned it

[@tnankie]

thanks for teh last half man, playing a mig-23MLD without chaff right now. Its miserable.

[@ductringuyen4056]

The stock grind for this plane is gonna be crazy.

[@squire4569]

Im grinding it rn i want to die 😭 its so baddd i cant get a single kill

[@davidvillarreal4889]

All the F4,s feel so much heavier after the update

[@andre232323]

I will grind to this jet, buy and never use it. Thanks for the video and saving me some hours of lifetime!

[@evananthony1395]

we need more 25min prop edging sesh content 🙏 instead of playing war thunder we play freak thunder👅💦

[@interests6702]

Personally, I have been a big fan of this patch. Hear me out... I have been stock grinding the new American Harrier, so not only is it matched at 13.0, and I have nothing but 9Ls, I’m also only subsonic and with no 120s (yet). However, I have actually really been enjoying this gameplay in a strange way. It’s super fun to me to sit in the notch, bait in an enemy into close range, and one turn them before they know what happened. The gun in the harrier has really good range and damage and it feels so rewarding to dunk on a fully loaded F-15C in my little go cart equivalent of an airplane. Obviously, this doesn’t happen every game, but I have been having fun. Just my opinion.

[@Turk3YbAstEr]

Gaijin did something nice for France to make up for what they do to french tanks

[@charlieharris2864]

You know of all the matches I had yesterday I only saw two people flying the F4f ice, and both of those people they didn't last long which was pretty much to be expected anyway, and I said it before and I'll say it again this should have been added when the f4EJ Kai was added, and personally I think in this update we should have gotten the r77 for the MIG 29g at least that would have been a better option in this thing but yeah I guess gaijin just has a secret hatred for Germany

[@sirbonobo3907]

they are orcs so we shouldnt expect nothing from those putin loving mofos

[@elmanco6885]

Germany didn't operated R-77. The MiG-29G it's just the basic MiG-29 9-12A with avionics modified to NATO compatibility

[@annoyingdude1236]

At this point, nobody cares about realism anymore

[@annoyingdude1236]

Anything to make germany not Dead

[@charlieharris2864]

@@annoyingdude1236 I will agree that at this point in war thunder's history nobody really cares about realism, I mean hell I rather have a nazi UFO, then a F4f phantom at 12.7, and ok so the MIG 29g didn't carry the r77 but I think in this case this is one of those rare occasions where you really do have to go screw realism

[@rwouwenaarrw]

This has HMD IRL and its also a test bed for iris-t with those you might actually have a sick jet.

[@Event_LUNAE_Horizon]

I will never forgive gaijin for adding Netherlands to France and not Germany.

[@amari2509]

Its ok cause now top tier takes skill!11!!!!11!1 bvr!!!1 so intense and fun and interactive 🎉🎉

[@raketny_hvost]

It's minute of video gone, but I'm already dying from amount of joks launched at me bruuu

[@Tuhrue]

Bro better keep putting those random memes in his videos, they just work lol

[@Klaus_Klavier]

I mean he’s got a good point. The tornado might be quicker but it’s even WORSE in a dogfight than a phantom. It’s a fatter more modern F-104 in terms of gameplay. The phantom can at least pull a little bit and its missiles and radar are going to be quality for sure. Perhaps it’s not the WORST thing at top tier but it’s probably tied for worst

[@danielmorgan1118]

finally a new playstyle for top tier jets. FUCKING finally. no more ground hugging

[@BenjiBoi696]

I’ve been trying to spade the f4j and f16 adf to grind out the f15c, and just keep getting up tiered… very fun

[@reinni2968]

Well at least f4j doesnt face too much fox3's

[@coardten79fh46]

I know this has been said before, but I would love a video on the proper use of FOX-3’s (and to a lesser extent SARHs), and how to use them while flying defensively. I’m not the best air player (I’m downright terrible), but it would be nice to watch whenever you get whatever data you need.

[@DEFYN]

I want to do a bit more testing before i make such a video I will make it in a week or so

[@coardten79fh46]

@@DEFYN I will wait for it with much enthusiasm

[@threedd2736]

Can't wait to see Defyn play the Tornado with AIM-120s

[@liquidleopard4495]

4:46 "Nobody kills Defyn but Defyn". 😄

[@1985_Honda_CRX_Si]

Been waiting for this one 👍

[@josiahhughes9628]

Imagine if top tier was split into two categories: BVR and visual range, with missile limitations in visual range but not BVR. Would be so easy for them to do it.

[@владимиртишкин-т4я]

How about Tornado F3 late and Harriers?

[@crispy_338]

I can almost guarantee Russia will get the Turkish F4 Terminator at some point at 13.0 if they’re adding dog water planes like this

[@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772]

Player: "Gaijin please, add the F4F ICE" Gaijin: *add F4F ICE* Player: "Wow this thing garbage, suffer yet again"

[@DatInnocentGuy]

Effectively what I knew was going to happen. Should have been added before fox 3

[@evo3s75]

yea, because it honestly should've been added before this. It could've been added with the Su-27 and F-15A in order to counteract the R-27ER spam (because the performance of both is rather similar)

[@MANNYzZ]

They want the F-4F ICE at the same br as the F4F regular

[@iluminas2866]

@@MANNYzZ No, stop making shit up.

[@JamesCZFEA]

​@MANNYzZ this and the tornado f3 late would have been fine at 11.7 or 12.0 the same as the F14s.

[@zeta4687]

yeah stock grind with ir missile only while everyone spaming fox3 got to be a lot of fun i can't even play my full researched mig29G in the first 24 hour after update 1 meter above the tree and still die

[@firestarteronyoutube5542]

0:56 I SAW THINGS WHAT THE

[@explosivecommando9100]

0:56 AH MAN

[@pyencdocde5716]

Not able to watch the video right now, but I felt like mentioning I just got my ass whooped pretty good

[@jacobscott2473]

That amongus meme made me laugh out loud at 5:33am and I woke up my house

[@HorizontalHuman]

Gaijin thinking that's it's fair for an f4f stock pilot without chaff to face people slinging 10 amraams at them

[@terrado6746]

So this means that Swiss is the only “ally” for Germany? I mean for top tier sure will be a nice compliment… and now that i think also for WW2 planes… 🤔👀

[@tomatoflight]

I do think it's nice that France gets some more rank IV, V, VI, and VII planes, but I do agree that they don't really need an F-16. Their rank V and VI really did suffer IMO though, most of the planes were so non-meta, and generally overtired (Minus the etendard and the Mystere IIC)

[@amari2509]

Top tier germamy made bro lose his mind

[@Juho-uf8si]

Yeah, i actually ended up GE'ing Gripen C. Not going to do that for F15C tho, im getting way more stuff done with F15A and aim7m's than i was with gripen's aim9m's only, also being downtiered alot helps. gaijin really shit the play for everyone who didnt have f16c spaded before the update.

[@GabbieGirl007]

F-4F ICE COLD (hey ya plays in the background)

[@Kotrovsky01]

It's unbeliavable how many people disregard the stock grind. Unless they are just burning GE to spade vehicles, and that is something that would make gaijin happy. At least before the patch you could get close safely to try and dogfight, but now, I was playing the gripen to unlock de Darter with only Aim-9Ms and it was so freaking boring. I was just notching and going cold for the first half of the match until I was able to get close enough to do anything. A ton of people said it was a skill issue when people complained about the multipathing change and the shift in meta, but BVR is not hard, it's boring af 🙃. Great video as always, pls don't suffer on the Tornado 🙏 the F4-F was bad enough.

[@marty4286]

WT 2020: "Gaijin hates France!!!" WT 2024: "Gaijin loves France too much they gave us F-16s we didn't want 😭"

[@najmicreativetv9491]

hey defyn I know you just reviewed MiG-23ML few months ago, but could you do for MLD sometime soon? the new auto radar mode switch is kinda screwed up floggers (you could only able to use MTI when pointing down and below 4500 ft) plus the turn rate nerf already spoke long ago, and they removed LD mode

[@House_of_Schmidt]

Top tier Air RB is aweful right now.

[@bobmartin9918]

I can't believe I audibily giggled at an among us joke. Fuck.

[@Zxian61]

man im currently trying to stock grind this shit and everytime all the fox 3s just oil me up and obliterate me

[@stevato0449]

People will need to embrace the new BVR meta. I found that I've been getting a lot more kills when I stand off and fire missiles no less than 15km away or so. Whenever I get close to someone that has Fox-3s I use the terrain to get close for IRCCM or cannon shots. Ofc this only happens if there isn't a 10 plane furball which in that case your best bet is to not engage at all.

[@blackop3765]

F16?

[@corsnieland2545]

Dat we in Frankrijk zijn is niet zo gekoloniseerd💀💀

[@sabrewarrior3548]

Zeer kut

[@o4karik41]

Wait for another 2 years bro, maybe we will got SOMETHING!?!! Switchin to France this patch, frick it…

[@Bobspineable]

Well people got be prepared for planes like this, old planes with good missiles. They will never be good and yet people want them be expect them to good. As for what they could get, there’s still the Swiss which use F/A-18s

[@SDK1752]

The Stock grind should be classed as emotional abuse

[@Eclipse-lw4vf]

still surprised people wanted this in game. never got why, idk what people expected

[@astora8768]

You're telling me that all the BS i have to go through in props and early cold war jets, all the suffering and aquired skill in gunnery and dogfighting is gonna matter jackshit in top tier and I'll just click on people? That's the end of the game ?

[@DanielMalefitz]

There is no reason to play high tier if you are not interested in the play style. Plenty of planes exist in BRs without ARH missiles or modern radar systems.

[@panzernerd8486]

If it goes down to 12.3 it will stomp 11.3's who can't even see the radar lock.

[@carlosadonayguardadogaleas6150]

harrier 2 is 12.3 XD

[@carlosadonayguardadogaleas6150]

Germany suffers 😅

[@dondelchulia3189]

I think Germany will get the Swiss f18 next major update, or a danish f-16 in the next minor

[@shootbat]

You should totally play the F.3 Late

[@firestarteronyoutube5542]

nah nah he should play the Sea Harrier too lmao