Germany: Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes-Benz See Plant Closures, Layoffs | Firstpost America

[@hotstepper8420]

Be careful Germany, Britain was once a global car manufacturer, look at it now! Also, your cars are overpriced.

[@jasonmugridge]

The arrogant German manufacturers didn’t bother to watch what happened to the once great British car industry or even the motorbike industry.

[@daleharrison1689]

All planned to fail, just like they did in the UK

[@Tonyscasa]

@@jasonmugridgejaguar as it is now represents England

[@davidgarris2513]

​@@TonyscasaYes, nothing 😮

[@hearmeout0909]

@@Tonyscasa Jaguar is owned by it's parent company Tata Motors

[@aleksandrolkhovskiy4075]

turns out making low quality cars while increasing prices a lot is not the best long term strategy.

[@jomene1125]

Low quality cars you clearly never owned a German automobile, low quality it's a f**king stretch man

[@M.M99494]

You never owned a german car if you say it's low quality.

[@xavierhernandezpena5644]

VW embraced this trend back in the 1980's, move up market with low quality vehicles, I was an unsuspecting victim of this stupid coporate "strategy" and after 1987 never again purchased a vehicle from them.

[@asean1015]

@@M.M99494 Currently, German cars cannot compete with Toyota's most complicated hybrid vehicles in terms of technology, so they have shifted to EVs, which have a simple structure that anyone can make, in an attempt to forcefully eliminate hybrid vehicles in the EU. This has resulted in new EV manufacturers being born one after another in China, and now Chinese-made EVs are being exported all over the world, pushing out EU-made EVs. China, the largest market, is now filled with Chinese-made EVs.

[@jl285]

@@M.M99494 Vw plastic oil sump + Australian roads are horrible on the suspension ride as we don’t have autobahn

[@nycpark]

The fundamental problem of german cars is that they are simply too expensive for what they are.

[@991carreras3]

For people with money they are not. for you they are.

[@jeengyim3072]

M340i cost just as much as a GR86 high end spec..yet the M340i will out perform, out class, and out run the GR86..I’d expect maintenance to be expensive but that’s just any car period these days

[@donjohn2239]

It is. These old outdated numbskulls are effed. 😂

[@user-ye1wn3uj7e]

Too expensive yet completely unreliable

[@991carreras3]

@user-ye1wn3uj7e when people like you say expensive that just means for you because for many they are not expensive. You say there is a reliability issues? Well my 2013 991 carrera s has had 11 oil changes 3 sets of tires for its 46k miles. Wifes 2016 macan one recall, 5 oil changes 2 sets of tires in 21k miles.

[@matronix1977]

50% sales come from china, and China is now buying BYD. Volkswagen has lost 80 % share…..never happened before !

[@thienthy2003]

Bull-eye.......EXACTLY

[@jlp5128]

Not so much, one-third of the sales of the three German companies will come from China in 2024, and because of the high prices, more than half or more of the profits will come from China. When large price cuts in the Chinese market failed to sell well, revenue fell slightly, but profits plummeted.

[@captives6479]

Germany had decades of good time when the Chinese gobbled up its BMWs, Mercedez, Audis and VWs. That golden era is about to end. Fair and square.

[@cpcCA]

Yup.... Greed will do it all the time.... China stole all there international property secrets. Them electric cars will be here sooner than we think.

[@jasonmugridge]

And obviously they wisely invested all that money in say things like… R&D…. oh wait 🧐🤣

[@wrathofgrothendieck]

@@jasonmugridgelol, the shareholders got theirs though…

[@martinhummel8775]

The golden era ends, because we a running a eco-sozialist experiment. That's the true reason. And behind this experiment is the World Economic Forum WEF, a globalistic sect steering by american billionaires, like Gates, Soros and Larry Fink.

[@iqbang9236]

...and in return, it flaunts its arrogance by accusing China of this or that.

[@happymelon7129]

Strange things do happen in Germany. The one that provided cheap energy is called “Enemy”.-RU The one that destroyed the flow of cheap energy is called “Friend”.-U$ The one that buy German's products the most is called “threat”. -CN The one that keeps helping her “Friend” to continue destroying her own country is called “Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen”.

[@jogana6909]

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for USA" - Ursula

[@ahogQ]

As a Polish citizen I would NEVER call Russia our friend. And I'm sure Germany would sell us to Russia for cheaper gas if they could. That's why we think of USA as our friend.

[@johannesf.2524]

@@ahogQ how about you look at Austria. They didnt stop Russian gas imports.

[@Chewy921]

​@ahogQ Anyone imagining the US as a friend is living on borrowed time.

[@ahogQ]

​@Chewy921 you clearly don't know the history.

[@fredrikbergquist5734]

I think this vid doesn’t hit the mark. BMW and Mercedes sell well with traditional engines, it is the EV gamble that is not working. Volkswagens problem is that they were seen as the ordinary persons car (the name means that in German) but has got so expensive that no ordinary person can afford it. The bestselling car in EU right now is the Dacia, a Romanian produced car owned by French Renault, a car selling from €10k and up. That is what ordinary people can afford today.

[@Noommie-Loves-Nio]

Where? They can’t sell many in US anymore. Also China sales are decreasing. Tell me what countries that are increased sales of these companies?

[@prajwalkb539]

You mean to say the Europeans have fallen to a rate that they cannot afford German cars and only Dacias ?? Economical advancement from colonization cannot hold you long. And also good luck in importing "Cultural Enrichment" from Middle East.

[@fredrikbergquist5734]

@ I don’t know about US but in EU Merc and BMW sell well, they are luxury cars so the numbers are not high but the profit is high. Merc and BMW plants are not firing anyone that is not EV related. The vid didn’t say anything specific outside Volkswagon.

[@lingth]

​@@fredrikbergquist5734 how often do you change ur Fossil Fuel cars? Yearly? Like an iPhone? The problem is as time goes by 2030 ..2035. The global demand for fossil fuel Cars will go down.. it won't go away of cos but your current production levels is for sales of 2000s and when sales of 2030s are less, you close plants.

[@trondialsingh594]

Germany is losing China the biggest car market most of its profits come from China and Chinese want good ev Germany don't know how to make good ev

[@wolfschindler8921]

It takes 1 minute to change an air filter on a Toyota and half an hour on a VW. Enough said.

[@SliderFury1]

I changed VW's my air filter in 5 minutes. And nothing takes 1 minute.

[@wolfschindler8921]

@@SliderFury1 On a VW you have to take the airbox out and undo 9 torx screws. On a Toyota you just undo 2 clips. No tools required.

[@orhanabd1724]

​@@wolfschindler8921 Toyota is crap above 120km/h. Sounds like a soda can

[@jyc313]

Stop oversimplifying things to fit your argument. And no don’t say u can do it in 1 min.

[@marufbepary100]

@@orhanabd1724 It is cheaper so it makes sense why it doesn't have any sound proofing. But luckily for us, we do have Toyotas with better sound proofing and luxury materials in the form of Lexus. You can now argue using Lexus instead of Toyota. Your welcome

[@talhamurs3279]

The reporter state that the worls is shifting towards EVs but statistics show the EV sales are plummeting

[@didierpuzenat7280]

Maybe the reporter knows that the only future of cars is electric. Not to mention EVs sales are growing in the world, whatever happens where *your* country.

[@talhamurs3279]

@didierpuzenat7280 I suggest you look into the statistics, you will realise that they only people buying EVs are company/fleet leased on 3 years contract, through govt backed subsidies. The depreciation value after 24 months is 40-50%. This is why people are avoiding buying a USD60k EV only to find out its worth USD25-30k after 24 months. A lot of manufacturers are rethinking their 2030 goals. Tesla cars are sitting in disused supermarket parking lots due to low demands. Similar case in China but the govt there subsidies manufacturers heavily. Mercedes are rethinking the future of their EQ marquee. Then there ks the issue of EV batteries blowing up and catching fire. EV hild a maximum market share of about 30% by 2035. The future is hybrid and PHEV, and possibly synthetic fuel cars that use conventional engine. So I strongly suggest you study the statistics and come out of your fantasy land before it's too late.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

@@talhamurs3279 Sorry but cars only depreciate if you buy them as fashion products. As many people, I keep my cars till they die or till my needs radically change (eg 3 kids and 2 seats at the back) so no depreciation for me. And hybrids and PHEV are not the solution, too little too late. And fuel based on biomass is a scam, just a greenwashing strategy since too many industries promote them, eg aviation with SAF, while in the future even food will be an issue. And sure, EV battery fires 🙄, compared to what ? Petrol cars fires are quite more probable, and it is worse for hybrids, and even worse for PHEV. Anyway, the only way to reach net zero is to switch to EVs, and of course also not to use or even own a car at all eg in cities at least in Europe. In 2025 almost nobody will own a car in most European cities. BTW, the main issue of VW is the competition of EVs, in China and also in Europe. Everybody knows that the ICE is dead, even with magical "synthetic fuel".

[@andreinastase1604]

You lie

[@talhamurs3279]

@andreinastase1604 I'm very sorry to shatter your eutopian vision, buddy, but if you like, I can share the source for your satisfaction.

[@MechaTronic161]

They only making cars for those folks who can afford. Not for the average consumers. That’s the problem.

[@DR_1_1]

Margins are too low on small cheap vehicles. Buy a Seagull BYD if tariffs are not implemented yet? Poor people are limited to public transportation. Or a bike...

[@beaniril8870]

The avg income people that got into semi high end market are now facing problems of sustainability, they can’t financially sustain it continuously unlike the real rich people they can financially sustain this luxuries with no problem at all.

[@BoBo-ug4do]

VW is priced ok and gives good value for the money.

[@mikemiller659]

VW does make cars for the regular person

[@jvb4450]

If you drive a regular freeway in Western Europe it’s full of VW’s, BMW, Audi and Mercedes. A lot of people can afford. The problem is that other markets enjoy other brands for electric. The Chinese brands are doing good, great value, but the Chinese ccp is financing that industry.

[@rene9582]

Top class technology? That is long gone. I changed from BMW to Toyota and am extremely happy with the switch.

[@brianbowers-x9q]

Yes now it's German Junk. People think because they are driving the badge it's good quality but unfortunately these days there not worth the extra money

[@johannesf.2524]

⁠@@brianbowers-x9qdepends on what you are looking at. They sure are among the best Cars drivingwhise.

[@ship1826]

agree,japanese car the best in the world.

[@simmo2745]

Jap car are most reliable for sure, but not ‘best’ - if you enjoy the pleasure of driving german cars are better - BMW (and other german makes) ultimate driving machine - not ultimate reliability machine

[@jyc313]

Is that it, or maybe u can’t afford bmws anymore? It’s ok, just be honest. No judgement here.

[@jeffburton9083]

My older brother bought a new Audi sedan in 2015. This year at 108,000 miles his transmission failed and had to be replaced. Now he has to add oil every weak. My Honda CRV has 135,000 miles with zero problems and doesn't burn a drop of oil. I think this comparison sums it up pretty darn good.

[@mikemiller659]

My 2012 FORD Focus bought new ran almost 300,000 miles. I decided not to replace the struts and bought a 2018 Focus..trading the 2012 in. I recently replaced the battery on the 2018

[@jomene1125]

I guess you're just lucky man, I know of someone who's spent/is still spending a fortune on Honda CR-V it's more problems every time

[@wgemini4422]

Good thing about EVs is that they have no oil to add. :D

[@grgadgo1307]

Got a mk5 golf 1.9tdi pd 430000km nothing except the clutch has ever been replaced😂 no toyoda can compare.

[@wgemini4422]

@@grgadgo1307 Isn't the first 400K the rough in period for a Toyota? :D

[@Withnail1969]

They're all going to go down. Customers can't afford 30,000 euros for a hatchback car.

[@grahamdrummond2412]

Prices, it's more or less problem.

[@patatr4943]

@@grahamdrummond2412 the reason why you layoff people...

[@DonR-zb2cm]

Not worth the price at all. It’s just become a status symbol for people that have big egos

[@ScottishTerrorsInLA]

That’s part of why I bought a Tesla. Same price as a regular Jetta and cheaper than a Jetta GLI. That and VW didn’t honor their warranty for the current Jetta I own. Bad business decisions.

[@Misslastcentury]

Probably because these vehicles are expensive to service, unreliable and a money pit!!

[@nazeeb00]

Owning one of these car is simple.. but its maintenance and parts cost are the main problem…

[@lyimoej7198]

Problem is they make expensive garbages that are destined to failure. They should learn from the japanese toyota and honda.

[@garrylum6025]

Your never owned a AMG Mercedes have you..... Paint Quality much better then a Toyota no paint fade no cracked clear coat. Owners tend to look after there Mercedes and keep them longer then a Toyota. On top of that the engine blocks are cast in aluminium along with the bonnets guards boot lid and weight less then plan steel and won't rust like normal cars would.

[@Withnail1969]

Toyota and Honda are in trouble too.

[@bigears4014]

Your right but toyota is also building shit

[@eldios831]

​@@bigears4014 not really...Toyota are practical...a Toyota spare part can be used in 10 different models...can do that even I two be models 😂😂😂😂

[@bigears4014]

@eldios831 crap very few things fit other models, filters maybe

[@richardshiggins704]

In France and Ireland the basic C200 Mercedes starts at € 70.000 ! No thank you very much .

[@991carreras3]

Its clear you cant afford it but there are many that can so stay with your honda civic

[@siddharths4676]

Only £70K on-road ? That would be more affordable compared to the Indian Price .

[@marcinm2871]

thank the EU. Starts at 63k Canadien. So 45k Euro LMFAO

[@Cemenmen1]

​@@991carreras3Yes, not everyone can afford it. Look at what's happening, German car sales are plummeting, and heading towards bankruptcy.

[@halljobratan]

​@@marcinm2871 Incl. Taxes?

[@ultimatebeachfutbolleague5734]

Cheap cars with high prices.

[@JeDxDeVu]

That’s what inflation will do to you

[@lorenzoisUV]

The new 1 series bmw cost R1million south African rand, for comparison, that was C63, M3, territory not so long ago...less than 6 years ago

[@pedroroque8681]

That's the entire economy, it seems. Technology, fashion, auto, housing, food etc I call it the Mcdonald's economy

[@kpace8605]

People buying German cars that aren't actually made in Germany.

[@ShamrockRagEll]

Just got my m440i. Maybe, you used to get more bang for the buck, but calling it a cheap car just means you don’t know what you are talking about.

[@vacuumunit]

Thanks Ursula

[@DR_1_1]

She's just a puppet for the tribe behind her...

[@Emeco-t1j]

German leaders chose Ukraine war instead of domestic interest...

[@DR_1_1]

It's a trick, they are reopening the plants in Ukraine, much cheaper workforce and plenty of raw materials...

[@Hkchinese888]

lol, it's the consumer not choosing German cars, abdul

[@sombong1423]

​@@Hkchinese888high gas prices

[@SuperMarioY]

Spot on comment.

[@aravinthan1995]

That’s a simplification of a complex economic and demographic problem…

[@abdouliekajakeh2378]

Keep pumping money to Ukraine

[@mikerowave1986]

And buy LNG from US at 5x price

[@DR_1_1]

It's a trick, they are reopening the plants in Ukraine, much cheaper workforce and plenty of raw materials... Seriously, they were breaking all sales record last year, do you really think they are bankrupt, suddenly?

[@EthanZoid]

Name gives it away

[@lordwiadro83]

Stop spreading disinfo. They don't pump all that much into Ukraine. When other countries were sending tanks and missiles, there was a debate in Germany if they should send obsolete helmets. The problem with the auto industry is with the greed and lack of progressive thinking. They did nothing to be innovative for years, and in the meantime China was making big advancements.

[@nickcrncich7255]

Yeah imagine trying to help them avoid having residential buildings, shopping centres, hospitals, and schools being bombed by a ruthless dictatorial maniac. I’m guessing you supported Putin’s great American corrupt lying buddy who is soon going to be your first emperor..AY?

[@simonbell6745]

I changed from expensive German cars where dashboard lights flashing left right & centre to Toyota years ago and never looked back. They got too big for their boots

[@hendriklangerak2515]

Couldn't agree more! German cars can go fast but, Toyota cars go forever😂

[@MightyMike55]

You just did not afford to run a German car mate. Problem was you 😅

[@captives6479]

Again, who blew up Germany's Nordstream pipelines? 😝

[@DR_1_1]

Same tribe as 9/11... "F... Europe" Nuland announced it on television in 2021 already "Nord Stream II will remain scrap metal at the bottom of the sea"!

[@मैंचीजेंबनाताहूं]

That's when all the trouble started. But Germans seem to have a bad short term memory

[@captives6479]

@@UpgradedTitanTVMan-67 No, it was Biden bin Laden.

[@hotstepper8420]

@@UpgradedTitanTVMan-67 Biden, get your facts right!

[@hanshartfiel6394]

Some dirty Ukrainians did it with the support of the even dirtier Americans

[@7415_Gamer]

The price you pay when you chose war over your economy.

[@Akas1001]

100%!

[@wunderschlegl]

So the car manufacturers are fighting a war? I think you are very stupid and have no idea about economy and the real world.

[@close_all_tabs]

Generic comment number #144

[@cxvalexa]

May as well give east Germany back to Russia then

[@close_all_tabs]

@@cxvalexa East Germany was never a part of Russia. It was Russian occupied in WW2 and the GDR was indipendent and only in a pact with the Soviet Union.

[@waynegore5291]

It's a success story for germany. Successfully De-coupling from Russia energy, China market. Ideology won. Congratulations!

[@jogana6909]

Germany can give up the automobile industry for western values.

[@mikerowave1986]

American orders disguised as ideology

[@FicaGTI]

And also Russian market. No gas- No market. Win-Win.

[@DR_1_1]

Not ideology, Germany is an occupied country... The cabal just blew up their pipelines with Russia, didn't you notice that!? In addition to these threats, if they chose to stay with Russia they are sanctioned and lose the US, UK, Canadian, maybe even some European markets! Russian market is much smaller than these...

[@mikexhotmail]

@@FicaGTI LOL sound about right

[@wishdj]

This is what happens when governments force people to buy EVs and not allow companies to produce cars that people really want.

[@im4udevco]

They want cheaper EVs. No one is forcing anyone to buy EVs.

[@captainjack6890]

Nonsense.

[@close_all_tabs]

@@im4udevco Most Europeans don't want EVs. 😅 Diesel and hybrid is the most popular. Europeans don't trust cheap chinese EVs. Too many bad memories with cheap chinese products.

[@aeroline11]

​@close_all_tabs sad you live in ancient era. In the current phenomenon when people think of EV, they either takes Tesla or Chinese EV. Who give a shxt to think of European brands of EV, high price tag with cheap quality and very poor performance in autonomous driving assistant. Chinese made bad ICE cars in the past but not the EV. They are leading in EV along with Tesla.

[@caffwarrior]

@wishdj No one is forcing you to buy an EV, that is entirely your personal choice. People often rush to follow the latest trends, only to regret or complain about them years later.

[@ShinjiKataoka]

Europe as a whole has reaped what they've sown

[@dcpete5475]

Then stay the hhhhhelllllllll out of Europe.

[@tradingbroofficial]

Yep, go woke go broke..

[@bait4562]

Cheap gas not flowing from Russia starts to show its face

[@RastaAfricanGentleman]

Overpriced with less value. Going EV went South with Tesla and BYD leading that segment which is their specialty. I wonder how 3rd world countries will get on board because they aren't ready for unrealistic EVs when energy itself is still an issue

[@Hey_puppets]

Third world doing well.....BYD itself from third world

[@trondialsingh594]

China has gone ev very well. Chinese consumers want good software driven, and Germany doesn't know how to make cars like that

[@ambessaseway5594]

Think Solar power is definitely going to help the grid is unreliable

[@RastaAfricanGentleman]

@@ambessaseway5594 It's actually a myth. 3rd world countries get to choose between a high set up cost energy source or a high maintenance energy source. Both have their pros and cons especially in highly dense populated areas

[@ambessaseway5594]

@RastaAfricanGentleman what it depends on countries Ethiopia is the largest hydropower producer in Africa but because it's population is spread all over the country it's difficult/very expensive to connect everyone on the grid so solar power is good for rural areas

[@Tkaariks]

Low quality, extreme high prices and to much focus on EVs and not what customers want or need

[@mkt65361]

Europe problems are not world problems😂

[@sebastiaanl9876]

Bots

[@marufbepary100]

Ironic considering how the US makes its problems world problems.

[@patrickdunn8918]

All connected…

[@anderso.nteles]

​@@sebastiaanl9876Does it bother you to know that the world doesn't care about Europe's problems?

[@sabulin-ck8sk]

true

[@noonecares379]

The whole world is going through a reform.

[@gurdeepsingh2837]

This!

[@BrandyHeng007]

Nokia and Kodak lessons.. Parabolic growth is unsustainable, and sooner or later, everything comes back into balance with new inventions

[@banzai385]

Demand for EVs is low : high cost,high depreciation,low range,not environmentally friendly, and high energy costs in Europe threaten all auto manufacturers !

[@Geoff-lu3jt]

High insurance

[@MarcoStarink]

This sums it all up…

[@Multiplads]

EVs are also not safe among the things which you mentioned. Recently a Tesla went off road and hit an obstacle in France. All four people on board died by burning so much that the police had trouble identifying them. The article about this accident can be found via the search engine. Similar stories happened in the U.S.

[@Godisgreat786Godis]

Worst car expensive, and we are paying higher maintenance and higher road tax insurance for nothing. The end of luxury brand

[@joachimlucious]

It is called luxury for a reason. People who are driving and can truly afford these luxury cars do not care about the cost of road tax or insurance. Volkswagen is the main culprit here. It was never a luxury brand, it was known as the people’s car. Suddenly, they are charging premium prices with same outdated tech, no invention and slightly bad quality.

[@madhunter6420]

​@@joachimlucious just "slightly"?😂 Vw fallen so hard. their quality sucks

[@jrd5403]

This has nothing to do with EV sales and everything to do with uncompetitive labor wages and gluttonous unions.

[@johannesf.2524]

Most underrated comment

[@garrylum6025]

Guess CEO wages & Bonus has nothing to do with it. Just blame the workers of the world trying to put food on the table and a roof over the family heads. To the share holders we made billions of dollars, to the tax man we made a lose this year and need a hand out from the government and tax payers of the country.

[@johannesf.2524]

@ Not the workers of the world. Just the part of workers which get 4x the money of others. In Germany, once you are employed by VW, they can not fire you, unless you steal or something.

[@tertur2957]

What about the alleged forced labour at their Chinese plant? I don’t think that they are unionized.

[@mikemccormick8115]

German brands have been expensive, unreliable junk for awhile. “German engineering” is a joke. My buddy auto repair shop always full of them.

[@LimWeeChoon]

Germany always make good cars. However, very expensive to buy and maintain due to over complication in the name of efficiency/technology thus sacrificing reliability and ownership experience. A premium product that only last 3-5 years

[@mikemccormick8115]

@ and how is all that “good?” Or by good do you mean bad?

[@jogana6909]

The profit of repairing German cars is higher than that of selling German cars, although German cars are already expensive.

[@LimWeeChoon]

@@mikemccormick8115 : good if you want the latest and greatest and can afford to dispose it every 3-5 years. Else bad, if you buy used just for the brand sake. Other than the power & handling which comes at a cost, the quality and build aren't any different than a popular mainstream car.

[@rubberroast1598]

I am german, and i am also very up to date on EV's. EV's are basically computers on wheels with a battery. Gas cars require much engineering, patents and design to distinctly stay ahead of the competition. The German car companies were great in this respect. But with EV's all those advantages are fading as the technology has shifted. Its similar to Kodak and their film technology advantage for making pictures. Digital cameras came along and Kodak became obsolete. EV's are doing the same to the whole automotive industry.

[@cxvalexa]

That exactly … EV’s are white goods.. Germany no competitive advantage

[@tn18977]

Electrical issues have always been a major weak point on German cars.

[@ajithkumarn5955]

Absolutely 💯

[@JeDxDeVu]

Turn the printers off and watch the prices fall. It’s not rocket science.

[@Fared-01]

Germany 🇩🇪 cars used to be best and reliable car but the new ones are all plastic and not reliable.. the Japanese cars are reliable and people love the car because it’s strong and reliable

[@991carreras3]

You forgot to mention jap crap is all plastic as well. As far as reliable you dont know what your talking about my 2013 991 carrera s at 45k miles has had nothing but oil changes and tires.

[@azharaziz8172]

Overpriced car china prove it

[@greatman5836]

Very interesting

[@Just_an_observer86]

Chinese cars aren’t really cheap. Manufactures rely heavily on government subsidies. It’s like claiming to be the most intelligent while getting exam questions beforehand.

[@bigears4014]

China is only cheap because of third world pay and conditions, and still low quality construction

[@mikefortune3686]

you would wonder how bad the chinese car quality is if you would have to buy them made for China. As many you have no clue …🤦🏻‍♂

[@12vtbfx37]

@@mikefortune3686 Obviously you have never seen a Chinese brand car

[@noonecares379]

People don't have a lot of money. If you don't make cheap and efficient cars , public won't buy it. Simple as that.

[@DR_1_1]

But German cars are not for poor people... it's just not their market.

[@ohcho-fg4co]

German EVs are of poor quality. That's the problem.

[@neonblazex]

Also very high prices..

[@dmcneil6113]

EV's have limited use in mamy countries. In Canada where I live it was -45°C, the range is limited so expedient long distance travel is a questionable endeavor, and the technology is not anywhere near perfected and the potential for an uncontrollable fire is still relatively high.

[@TC-lk2ev]

It sounds like an oversimplification but yeah, this is basically the reason.

[@kamsunleong6648]

​@@dmcneil6113 Norway is also a country with extreme winter temp. 95% of all car sales there are evs.

[@dmcneil6113]

@kamsunleong6648 it takes about 4 days to drive across Canada west to east. It takes 12 hours or more to drive through Alberta south to north. How about Norway? 80% of Canada lives within 200 miles of the US border, meaning most of Canada is sparsely populated. Hard to compare the 2.

[@lottiohnesorge830]

They wanted the left and green to rule. This is just the result😂👌

[@wgemini4422]

The right is not much better.

[@Fienly0109]

Iconic era is over

[@cosmicentity1520]

Yes. That ship has sailed long time ago.. the future of automotive is depressing.

[@Fienly0109]

@@cosmicentity1520 don't be depressed...The government have no choice but taking care of of US...Ai pandemic.

[@paulbroderick8438]

Germany, look over your shoulder at England! Coventry used to be The Detroit' of England manufacturing a large range of cars both for the everyday person and those seeking luxury. Now? Nothing, nothing!!!

[@ship1826]

This is karma. German automakers were just deceiving public opinion by using political excuses to cover up their poor diesel and EV technologies.

[@grahamwalker-d1o]

Had 2 VW Passats unreliable and cost a fortune to service (electronic handbrake...aaarrrgghhh!!), now I have inherited a Grundig dishwasher with my new house - what a load of rubbish, back to the Hitachi asap!

[@mikemiller659]

Buy a Whirlpool

[@halljobratan]

Who the fuck told you Grundig is still German. It went bankrupt decades ago Chinese just bought the name and rebrand their stuff with it. The same with aeg and Telefunken or Pfaff.

[@uthmanakram]

Fantastic video🔥🔥! I have incurred so much losses trading on my own....I trade well on demo but I think the real market is manipulated.... Can anyone help me out or at least tell me what I'm doing wrong??

[@malcolmcornelius-31]

Trading on a demo account can definitely feel similar to the real market, but there are some differences. It's important to remember that trading involves risks and it's normal to face looses sometimes. One piece of advice is to start small and gradually increase your investments as you gain more experience and confidence. It might also be helpful to seek guidance from experienced traders or do some research on different trading strategies.

[@RicoWilton]

If you are trading without a professional guide... Ah, I laugh, because you will stay where you are or even suffer huge losses that will prevent you from trading, this has been one of the biggest problems for new traders.

[@jennetwhitney]

I know I'm blessed if not I won't have met someone who is spectacular as Fenella Highly recommend🙌

[@charlotteluna-n7e]

Wow, I'm surprised to see Fenella mentioned here as well. I didn't know she had been kind to so many people

[@Graysonmatthew3544]

​I'm also a huge beneficiary of her.. I thought myself and my family were the only ones enjoying Fenella trade benefits...

[@stevem7508]

The EV propaganda and governments overreaching is what is killing the auto industry, no one wants EVs. Money can be the blindness of reality.

[@shachar777]

VW is smart. Workers dont realize that they are dispensible.

[@gottfriedheumesser1994]

Boeing is much better!

[@lkaroly]

And vw is to... 😅

[@Remrcm]

Where is the info from bmw and mercedes? It's vw that is struggling

[@kunalshinde6689]

Loan for automakers 😷 Loan for Zelensky 😎

[@ashleypocock4092]

Not my area anymore, but why has Daimler not bought Lucid yet ???

[@YouCantHandleTheTruth.]

This is what happens when one bolsters with Washington.

[@dantesinfernopurgatory7826]

Progressive Bidenomics in particular.

[@raj58277]

Thanks ro Joe

[@saintpreferred9223]

If it has a touchscreen, I'm not a customer.

[@jobwork604]

Robert Habeck ruined German Auto Industry

[@cpcCA]

🤫lol.. The party is still winning. All there nuclear power plants are closed. They will always be second in power.😢

[@ravipeiris4388]

Good. Substandard vehicles.

[@Simplypunjabi1]

People choose quantity over quality. We only see the high prices but don’t see the quality. I own Honda but if I compare with Volkswagen which I used to own 2 years ago then paint quality, drive quality is not near. Anyways..it’s a long and never ending discussion.

[@sgi5141]

Blame the EV's

[@cosmicentity1520]

I don't see the point of EVs. They're ugly, unreliable and not a real car. Whoever invented EVs are foolish for thinking they are "saving" the environment. I blame Elon Musk for this LOL. If it wasn't for that stupid Tesla EVs, none of these would've happened.

[@vacuumunit]

No more cheap Russian gas . No access to the Russian market

[@मैंचीजेंबनाताहूं]

Chinese manufacturers are offering 600 mile range, 10 year warranty, and 10 year battery warranty on a 35,000 $ EV. One manufacturer even offers life time warranty on the battery to the original purchaser. They make premium quality cars affordable for everyone. Legacy auto makers need to start shaking things up. Other wise we'll al be driving Chinese EVs soon

[@sdmc1972]

so everyone knows people goto china for cheap labor how do these poorly paid laborers afford a $35000 car?

[@मैंचीजेंबनाताहूं]

@@sdmc1972 No, it's only you who know that. Everyone else knows Cheap labor is no longer in China. Educate yourself please. There are plenty of ways

[@sdmc1972]

@मैंचीजेंबनाताहूं yeah ok....

[@grgadgo1307]

Those are low quality low performance lower end cars. Nothing premium about them, if you have ever put a car together you would know.

[@tebogopekane1418]

Let's not forget the energy issue.

[@tarunpoonia8230]

I wonder how much is this bcoz of Russian Ban

[@captives6479]

Partially. Germany forced to buy much more expensive gas from the U.S. when its Nordstream pipelines were sabotaged by the CIA.

[@DonJulio4649]

Almost like people Don’t want to buy over priced anti consumer vehicles. Purposefully made so it can’t be repaired by an average buyer.

[@pvught390]

Yes, "Made in Germany" is known worldwide as a strong brand and synonymous with quality, craftsmanship and reliability. German products have built up an excellent reputation, especially in sectors such as the automotive industry, mechanical engineering, electronics and chemicals. This reputation is the result of decades of innovation, precision and maintaining high quality standards. For many consumers and companies, "Made in Germany" is a guarantee for durable and reliable products.

[@michalxo]

Was.

[@peejayem4700]

I like the plastic water pumps in VW’s. When they fail, repeatedly, they’re so easy to change and VW sell the parts so cheap.

[@kamsunleong6648]

In Sept BMW had to recall 1.5 million cars worldwide for braking system issues.

[@SD-cs1ti]

If you pay people 4000 euros to tighten nuts on a production line, you are not competitive

[@Chris-yg3nj]

😂

[@halljobratan]

I think it's even more and don't forget 30 days paid off plus one extra loan for Christmas and one for vacation. And then again two times a year bonus.

[@zuzadeyi4105]

Cost of the vehicles is influencing the downward spiral

[@st.michaelanthony3195]

Self inflicted wounds😢

[@golfRgod]

They will be fine, the fact that they are lagging behind in EV is going to be a benefit, as many are now scaling back EV as the demand is not there. In the US our car manufacturers are closing down EV and scaling it back.

[@CarlosWiden]

I bought a Chineese car and its amazing! I have the MG RX8 and it feels better than my old BMW X5 and my MB E320 for a much better price! I think China with BYD is even better than a porche !!

[@BahDuest]

Please stop ! I read the reports ! Those cars have a short life span and parts that don't work when brought brand new! No one wants hype😂

[@CarlosWiden]

@ I am entitled to my opinion! Or not?

[@jogana6909]

@@BahDuest BYD's taxis have been successfully operated in Shenzhen for more than ten years.

[@marcvb3364]

@@BahDuest And BMWs and Audis don't have a short lifespan? All modern cars are designed for a 4-6 year leasing plan.

[@DR_1_1]

Where do you live, Pakistan, Mexico? And I don't think BYD produces the same cars as Porsche...

[@johnbehneman1546]

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[@LogicalguyThinking]

So much for German efficiency 😂😂😂. Which is actually a joke and don't get me start on the efficiency of Sban 😂

The problem is that legislation has dictated what the manufacturers are to make instead of the customer.

[@almac9203]

That's the problem. Porsche has said regulations are making it more and more difficult. The politicians don't understand they are destroying their own manufacturers and risking millions of jobs.

[@user-gk1nt6sm2z]

Good. Cars were expensive crap , sold to the pretentious.

[@boguszasmann6844]

So happy to announce you are

[@Quullvn]

In the brink of WWIII, something strange is unfolding here.

[@cpcCA]

It will be the neutralizer. Team USA is 37 trillion in debt. I hope not... Capitalism has run its course perhaps.

[@wesellanybiz]

Maybe they should reduce the car prices prior to Covid and see customers return!! Cars that used to cost £400/month with 3K deposit now cost £800/month with 8K deposit!! It’s unrealistic pricing!!

[@HenryKing679]

😂😂😂They have only got themselves to blame for trying to ban chinese EV by imposing high tarriff for any cars made by china,and now china has pulled its investment from EU its bye..bye😂😂😂China wins in the end

[@ap4691]

Reliability is key. Their excellence is in repair and maintenance costs

[@aayazahmed5389]

These are over 100 year old companies, they know how to do business.

[@cpcCA]

Agree. They just can’t get cost down. We will see.

[@Not_sheeple]

I'm having such schadenfreude....... ripoff costs and poor aftersales supprt.

[@admiralbeez8143]

I drive 2014 VW wagon with the bulletproof non-turbo i5 and 5-speed manual. It was affordable, remains reliable, fun to drive and has very little tech. That was the height of pre-nonsense VW.

[@ksingh361]

Why is the question that is never asked or answered. Totally avoidable

[@alfredoleal2101]

It was Russia the engine that move europa.no Germany

[@jbbarrios7344]

MB quality has declined significantly.. Why ?

[@TechCrazy]

Great cars were ruined by greedy dealers charging an arm and leg just for simple oil changes let alone other major repairs. People are just not into it throwing money away anymore.

[@Vx3r-e7y]

Its good that people might move to a reliable product!!

[@erhank881]

Overpriced !

[@jimsteinway695]

I don’t know about the others but Porsche heavily invested in China and EVs then started raising their prices ridiculously.

[@pumalee1997]

German cars are overcapacity.😂😂😂

[@sifisosibandze1220]

While other auto giants are scaling down production including Nissan , on the other side Toyota is basking in the best sunshine ever . What a contrast

[@boldschool6308]

It's fine Ukraine will uplift them back

[@JeanMarcLentini]

Everyone and country blaming everyone and countries, when the blame rests with themselves.

[@NURREDIN]

The only German cars that interest me are Rolls, Bentley and Maybach.

[@carycoller3140]

People are ridiculous. They want to keep their jobs AND get pay raises even while the company is losing sales.

[@gottfriedheumesser1994]

The car buyers are uncertain, as the highly praised electric ones don't hold what is promised, and the future of combustion vehicles is doubtful concerning restrictive regulations. So it is better to keep the good old car a few years longer than normal.

[@wgemini4422]

Not sure what promises are not held. Lack of fuel cost, lack of maintenance, instant torque?

[@gottfriedheumesser1994]

@@wgemini4422 Reach and reliability of batteries, cold weather behavior, and so on. The first bunch of electric cars have been sold mostly to companies, but much less to private owners.

[@wgemini4422]

@@gottfriedheumesser1994 We honestly don't know the reliability of the batteries although hybrids never had much problem with their batteries despite the initial FUD. It's generally agreed that today's batteries are far more reliable than engines/transmissions due to the simplicity. Cold weather behaviors have always been well understood and haven't been a problem in Norway. We have long passed the "first bunch of electric cars". 14.2 million EVs and PHEVs were delivered last year alone, you can't say they were sold mostly to companies. In many markets, EVs are rather common sights nowadays.

[@gottfriedheumesser1994]

@@wgemini4422 Norway is not everywhere. For me, a car that has to be recharged every 300km is out of discussion. One or two years ago there was a lot of trouble with e-cars in the Chicago area due to very cold weather when even Fahrenheit temperatures got negative. This was even in Austrian TV.

[@wgemini4422]

@@gottfriedheumesser1994 The good thing for the rest of us is that very few people are like you. Most people travel less than 50km for their daily commute. The few outliers don't matter all that much. There were plenty of people sworn by resistive touch screens claiming iPhone screens wouldn't work in the winter. The ICE market is and will continue to shrink along with most car companies.

[@AUTOHAUSEUROPA]

They mocked us with high prices and big car problems ! Shame on them !

[@kaushamlani]

I won’t waste my money on Germans

[@991carreras3]

Then dont! Its clear you cant afford something better but thousands can.