Get A Detailed Look At Bmw R 1300 Gs Battery Removal & Learn How To Live With Lithium Power.

[@egreenhammer231]

I"ve had a Shorai Lithium battery on my 2009 R1 since 2010. It still functions just fine after 14 years. I have only used the specialized charger a few times after the bike had sat all winter. Very pleased with the performance. Hoping for similar with my R1300GS.

[@lifeisarideuk]

@@egreenhammer231 maybe bmw battery are over complicated

[@c138599]

When I first got my bike 4 years ago I flattened the lithium battery by playing with the electronics for a good half hour. When I say "flattened" it dropped below the critical 10.5v. It's worth knowing that in order to revive a "dead" lithium it needs a lithium-specific charger with decent current capability (above 3A I think, the 800mA maintainers will not do it) as well as the higher voltage. Last I read, lithiums are said to reliably hold a charge for 3 months while for lead-acid it's 1 month. But I sit mine on a charger/maintainer when not riding. After 4 years mine has operated flawlessly but I live just outside Sydney Australia and cold temperatures are not normally an issue. PS I do like those carbon-look (?) panels. Wondering if something similar could be done to tart up the radar panel.

[@garyflowers9]

I have been seeing lots of 1300 owners on forums saying that they have had starting issues due to dead batteries. Your explanation certainly makes sense as to why this is happening. I will be collecting mine in a week or 2 and its really cold here in Ireland so i will be aware of cold charging /starting. I can see me swopping it for a lead acid in the future. Thanks for the great info!

[@lifeisarideuk]

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[@lifeisarideuk]

@@garyflowers9 yep but not that simple you have to get bmw to do that the bike need a update to do that !!!

[@john7912h]

I don’t understand, it starts perfectly even sitting at 2 celcius every time

[@lifeisarideuk]

@@garyflowers9 well your a bit late this happened last year they have updated the bikes to use less power now allegedly

[@garyflowers9]

@@lifeisarideuk I posted this comment 11 months ago 😀

[@49googie]

Greetings from N.I. I have a 21 Triple black and not long after i had it i started it drove 6 miles to tesco for fuel then clic clic dead battery got home brought the car a jump started it. Short story the lovely tracker the BMW gave me for free had been draining it, so it's off the bike and in the garage and I use an Optimate 4 every now and then. Interesting about the Lithium seems more about the weight than practicality. Regards Robert.

[@Vusseyv881]

Also got a flat battery this morning. Cheers.

[@ericjames7680]

One thing I was interested in is that most battery jump packs used to jump start your bike with a dead battery have a big warning saying DO NOT USE ON A LITHIUM BATTERY. COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS FOR US? Can doing so cause an explosion? Thank You!

[@lifeisarideuk]

Nobody seems to be able to give us a direct answer as to what you can do with a flat lithium have been told by BMW cannot jumpstart these batteries. You also cannot charge them below a certain temperature. They’re particularly volatile. There is only a couple of cells inside that plastic case so very low capacity. I have changed mine back to a lead acid others I have followed you need to get the software changed on the 1300 to do this, but it’s worth doing if you’re going to a cold temperature definitely

[@Lomv51]

Hi, Love the Carbon Fiber replacement panels on your Triple Black R1300 GS. Can you tell me where you bought them? I have a R1300 GS on order, but because I'm in the US, I won't be seeing it until April or May so I have some time to start buying goodies for the bike. Thank you for your help... very educational your discussion of the lithium battery. It gets very cold when I live, almost makes me want to keep the lead acid battery.

[@lifeisarideuk]

We’re thinking of making some carbon fiber panels, real carbon, fiber panels. Do you think people will be interested in them?

[@paulosilvestre4244]

@@lifeisarideuk Hi, I own a bmw r 1300 GS Triple Black, i think people will be very interested im real carbon fiber panels for the bike. Do that please :)

[@LarsEneberg]

You can order the R1300 GS With option 842 Cold Climate version. Then you get a AGM batteri.

[@lifeisarideuk]

Fine but standard they come with this 5 cell lithium

[@lifeisarideuk]

Well your correct but get someone to sell you that when they don’t even know it has a lithium battery

[@stalbansbiker]

Always take the Negitive off first and on last that way you wont have a circuit if the live touches metal

[@MotoPapa88]

Nice video. QQ, what was that wire that was connected to the battery that you removed? What does that power? And does that mean if you want to change batteries, it makes it difficult because it seems like BMW wants you to buy BMW batteries...

[@lifeisarideuk]

I have asked the question they did not call me back today

[@lifeisarideuk]

manuals.bmw-motorrad.com/manuals/BA-Extern/IN/BA-INTERNET-COM/PDF/R_0M23_RM_0223_07.pdf

[@lifeisarideuk]

Nothing in the manual just as disconnect wire, this one's got me and I think this one's got the dealer

[@LouisStreet]

It is one of two things. There may be a thermistor in the battery that enables an ECU in the bike to monitor battery temperature. Or if the battery is a "smart" battery then it may have an ability to communicate its status to a an ECU in the bike. The latter is very common in the batteries used in things like laptops and drones. POSTSCRIPT: It is the latter. Used for the "Battery Guard" feature in the BMW Connected App and to relay the state of the battery to the BMW Borg via telematics.

[@LouisStreet]

I was hoping that you would look at the battery carefully and mention who actually makes it for BMW.

[@lifeisarideuk]

Well as we speak, the plot thickens so I'll keep you updated. It's quite clear that BMW do not make batteries

[@majestix_adv]

Exide is the manufactorer for BMW

[@stuartshaw6895]

Perhaps it was the loose connection and not a flat battery ?

[@lifeisarideuk]

No it was dead

[@beans4491]

Interesting, my bike arrives next month so i will bear this in mind. Does the manual give any care instructions at all? Thanks for this.

[@lifeisarideuk]

Mr beans, if you want to join us in the on the French Spain trip your welcome see web site or call me

[@beans4491]

Ah so sorry i have my own trips planned this year already, i must say your trips do look amazing though. @@lifeisarideuk

[@rogereverett9095]

Interesting, so potentially it could have been the cold starts that killed the lithium battery then. One word of warning as well for your viewer's. DONT CHANGE TO A LEAD ACID. Lithium and lead acid charge differently. You would need to get bmw to code in the parameters for lead acid battery. Code in the cold climate option.

[@lifeisarideuk]

Well, I’m going to check that out on Monday because I’m not putting up with this crap lithium anymore

[@JoeS97756]

Those loose terminals and zip ties are all on your dealer as the bike comes from the factory with battery disconnected and no zip ties there.

[@lifeisarideuk]

Mmm don’t like but sure the gods bmw told them to do it

[@lifeisarideuk]

I’m not sure it does,

[@JoeS97756]

So it was too dead for them to charge?

[@lifeisarideuk]

I'm being told once you've killed lithium you've killed it. I'm also being told anything low 10% is bad

[@lifeisarideuk]

This is part of my worry with Toring. You spent so much time. Pissing about with navigation and maps with ignition on Bike not running for you know you've chewed through your lithium battery which is why I think a good battery to be Toring with is one with the partition To be honest, I must prefer the older Lead acid is robust you can't kill it you can charge it off a truck it's not temperamental it doesn't mind surprises. It doesn't need to be warmed up before you start the bike. This new technologies is bullshit and it's going to cause some problems.

[@LouisStreet]

Actually the battery part may still be fine but the battery management system disables the battery and it becomes unuseable UNLESS you can command the battery management system to reset. This is being done on drone batteries that would otherwise be tossed.@@lifeisarideuk

[@herkko61]

@@lifeisarideuk No. 100% of the capacity (Ah or Wh) is available from LiFePO4. For example AGM there is only 50% available.

[@lavi38]

A motorcycle of the new model like yours that cost a lot of money from a company like BMW, should not have happened in any case, only charging with a special charger for lithium batteries and not a normal acid battery I would love to receive a follow-up video

[@lifeisarideuk]

Going to get One, the bike has been collected without my panels, going back on on Thursday

[@lavi38]

If you make a video on your KZbin, after you buy the new charger for lithium batteries it will help.

[@WolfgangExler]

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[@greenrush4313]

I finally moved on from all the problems with my GS. I made the right choice to the Harley pan Am. Im glad i did. Good luck mate

[@manfred3018]

Lithium batteries, have a battery management system when below a certain voltage automatically cut off completely to charge them connect to a charger, but run a second battery in line with it, and that will trick the battery management system to switch back on

[@lifeisarideuk]

Be nice to have the space .battery manager say we be not starting today 😢

[@lifeisarideuk]

Anyone know a small booster pack to tour with :.

[@manfred3018]

@@lifeisarideuk one of those little 12 V booster batteries would be perfect to trick the larger battery into switching back on