Get Greasy! | Tech Tuesday

Get some rags handy, Calvin and Truman have gotten into the bike grease again and they've got some experiments to run!
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[@BluecollarBackcountry]

Good stuff guy's. I headed out to remove the grease on my bottom bracket 😆

[@drfusioncraft]

Tour de France riders hate this secret trick!

[@pauly8442]

It would nice to have a list of what all the oils and greases are for exactly.

[@seany2345]

SERIOUSLY!!!

[@benjleath9406]

You should’ve looked them up yourself !!

[@pauly8442]

@@benjleath9406 That's a really stupid comment.

[@Cocacola5072]

YEAHHH, thank you for the WH-1!!! Can't wait to receive it

[@Cocacola5072]

I was wondering how I get in touch with you guys?

[@parktool]

Send us an email at video(at)parktool(dot)com and we'll get you sorted out!

[@ed0078]

Good job Carlo

[@haajee1]

Gefeliciteerd! Kwam toevallig net op deze video. Niet zozeer voor een wielersport of iets dergelijks. Maar in verband met vet in een RC auto. Snap nu wel dat vet niet zomaar vet is. :)

[@richardbauer8195]

I love how Calvin looks at his non-existent wrist watch.

[@TheNickS83]

Good on you guys. Love how accessible you make home repairs seem. Keep it up

[@halogenlamp2]

Entertaining video and very useful. As others have mentioned a list of the various greases you produce and a chart showing where you recommend each one is used would be very helpful. Thanks

[@SuperBacDoc]

Calvin is Ninja wrench! If you’re listening Park Tools, give this guy a raise! He is a a stellar technician and a great narrator/teacher. Perfect for this stuff - A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++!

[@eddiejrbation5095]

These grease are not only for bikes only. I use the high performance ones on bearings like found on rotary ones, drills and such.

[@jeremeyellis16]

You guys crack me up... you're like two little boys playing with their toys :) SO much fun

[@awesomexistence]

WARNING; do not be hypnotized by the non greased swinging crankarm. You may be compelled after viewing it to purchase every PARK TOOL made! 😂😂😂

[@stilianivanov3377]

For the summer season I made a separate BB setup. I removed the inner seals of my bearings, but I kept the outer ones because of the dust, cleaned all the grease and ditched that plastic bushing/spacer between the cups. Then I drilled some holes on the back side of the cups, where the bearings sit. After that I filled up the bb shell with automatic transmission oil and BOOM - that thing just flies. It takes some additional maintenance, but if you ask me its totally worth it.

[@parktool]

Love the innovation!

[@polochinchinlin9111]

how many hours did it work?

[@stilianivanov3377]

@@polochinchinlin9111 It works for 20-30 hours before you have to open it up to clean and refill it. Sometimes when Im lazy I just use a syringe to top it off trough the dropper hole in the seat tube. I have this setup for 3 summer seasons now and I still use the same bearings, so there isn’t any issues with it whatsoever.

[@ViperSRTnACR]

Do NAWT run any form of anti-seiz in your bearings. DO NAWTT!! 😆

[@panzerveps]

Oh hi Mark

[@samhenderson7528]

No duh, i just use the all around one, i bellieve its called assembly compound

[@Solarsystem50]

I will speak to my psycologist... Why do I enjoy so much watching video about grease?

[@guycohen4403]

Can you please make a playlist of all the other chemicals used on a bicycle?

[@Ap_Jax]

Man! I gotta check my bearings to see if it has grease

[@rondhole]

Marine Grease is perfect for most parts that can just do push-out grease like most Shimano pedals SPD. Marine grease is extremely water resistant, practically impenetrable but a hassle to clean.

[@pigeonpoo1823]

For a winter road bike, it's perfect. I'm always amazed how much remains and how clean the grease is when I service it, so the bearings must be well protected.

[@makantahi3731]

you missed to test oils: low, middle, high viscosity, or to put some oil into grease and test, i have problem with angle grinder grease: it is so stiff , it is all around of gearbox but not on teeth, so i mixed some oil into basic mineral calcium grease, to get some viscosity and it works

[@mrGTD170]

Chris King said in an interview, on race day he didn't put any grease into the bearings.

[@Guineson]

I also recall a video going over world cup race mechanic that spin out most of the grease before race runs to reduce drag. Replace bearings every race perhaps 🤔 totally worth it 🤣

[@schneefoen]

Guineson : i think they also do so because grease gets more and more fluid if its getting warmer because of the drag from spinning?

[@ironman1518.]

YOU TWO are the Bomb!! FUNNY, Entertaining AND Very Informative Thank you!

[@dirtyshirtinfo]

Shout out to the production team for locating a real newspaper. 🤜🤛✌️

[@dugldoo]

I did your swing test after replacing bearings on my 1970s Fuji race bike using a premium calcium-complex soap grease with Teflon. I got > 30 swings. Something seemed wrong. Ah! I'd left the pedal on. Without the pedal I got 11 swings. Two questions: 1) is lithium or calcium grease better? 2) for this old bike are free or caged bearings better? Thanks!

[@mattgies]

That intro was epic.

[@redguy333]

I was kinda hoping for some recommendation on when it is better to use HPG-1 and when PPL-1...

[@simpi0993]

@Click Bait high performance grease for inside the bearing and all-rounder for the outside

[@Eng586]

@@simpi0993 PPL is a great all-arounder, and not to say that PPL is a bad bearing grease but HPG-1 was designed more for bearing use. But if you live in a area where it rains often, the PPL would be better because since its thicker it is slightly more water resistant. The PPL is more for, lets say the seat post, you need some grease there, and the PPL would be best for it.

[@faiobbochd]

@@Eng586do NEVER use lubricants to insert a seat post! it needs friction - not lubrication. with grease on it, you'll need to exceed the max torque of the clamp bolt to hold the post fixed. this over-tightening however may damage the clamp, the post or even the frame tube.

[@newttella1043]

@@faiobbochd Well... actually you can use some grease on a seatpost if the frame and seatpost are different metals like aluminum and the other is steel. They will eventually bond and ruin the frame. Of course a friction paste is better and for sure on carbon frames. But for metal on metal, I've used the PPL grease since the 1990s and the seatposts don't slide and none have been stuck.

[@ranxxerox6407]

WOW what a fun and informative video. QQ I purchased Park tool PPL-1 Greaase. I have always had trouble getting the grease out - too thick. So thick that even kneeling on the tube with my full weight is the only way to get grease out - Whats going on here?

[@MarshWaha]

Hey Calvin and Truman I got 65.

[@YugoZex]

There is a trick and work fantastic. You can use thick grease and ad few drops of oil and it will become hi performance and also stick in place for a long time...

[@juanguillermogonzalez2764]

Can stop laughing from the first 40 seconds of the video, awesome content.

[@Mastr-Tech]

I did a corrosion test and the poly lube 1000 beat the high-performance grease

[@ameraldas3641]

it did not say anything about rust performance.

[@that70sschwinn]

Nice demo guys 👍🔧

[@roijoi6963]

Two tests that actually indicate the quality of grease are a brake test, and spalling thread test. A brake test has a turns a smooth round metal puck while engaging a mating metal shoe. Measure the imparted torque or power consumed by an electric motor. A battery operated drill would work if you measure the time to battery exhaustion, otherwise use an amp meter to measure power at a specific voltage. The brake shoe should have passive weights stacked or hung from it. A thread-spalling test turns a long piece of thread stock through a matching nut repeatedly until the threads spall. Take pics every 1,000 lengths, or measure imparted torque into the nut as you go. Keep a count until total failure and seizure. All grease will add a minute amount of drag, but that's to be expected. None of that indicates how well it is lubricating under high loads like a crank when ridden by a heavy rider, or friction in a wheel bearing. If you really want to know how well a grease performs in an application turn the bearing until failure and record the time or turn-count to failure. Electric motors make this fairly simple, but take a lot of time to get to failure. Unfortunately, this video is not helpful.

[@ГородБаку-е8щ]

Super video! Thanks a lot!!

[@Mersuharrastaja]

I was expexted that you tell where use lithium based grease and where teflon based

[@jeffbrunton3291]

But.... Grease liquifies as it heats up so it would be best to know if the HPG out performs the regular grease after it has run for a while. Chances are it would but still Also the HPG would likely get closer to the no grease option once warmed up

[@newttella1043]

I think that's a non issue with bicycles. The amount of power and speed is so low compared to motor sports so most bicycle greases can easily deal with any heat and friction.

[@polochinchinlin9111]

@@newttella1043 Yes, but how much grease do they forget to specify ...

[@floatingvoter8618]

Am quite sad I didn’t win the WH-1 😦 They are not available to buy at all where I live in the UK, and not as far as I can tell available anywhere in Europe either... 😳

[@parktool]

It can take a while to get products fully distributed, and the summer trade winds can of course slow shipments. The WH-1 should be in retailers there soon.

[@andygilbert1877]

Floatingvoter Same here! Really want one of these. Think we’re going to have to be patient though. Available now in USA for $100 but $45 shipping to UK plus maybe import duty. Bike-Discount.de say they will have it 25 July for €136 but they charge a fair bit for shipping usually. Looks like it’ll be on my Christmas list then!

[@jakubsalanyk8830]

You guys almost invented perpetuum mobile with this no grease trick 👍

[@soulboken4670]

I use horse meat grease for all my bike components , since my bike is a horse

[@86309]

ok, so after all that the HPG vs PPL, I still dont know the intended purpose or if there is a definite advantage between the 2 for bearings.

[@afrocatpro]

Today on this old grease

[@neilfroggycrompton2466]

I use water resistant grease,the blue stuff never had any problems with it.

[@Lughnerson]

Marine grease...it's good for trailer wheel bearings that go into fresh and salt water.

[@neilfroggycrompton2466]

@@Lughnerson its not marine grease as such,just water resistant,never had any problems using it ☺☺

[@jamesedmerdelacruz9478]

Marine Grease is good on moving parts but anti seize never use it on moving parts, you should only use Anti seize on threaded application where it is weathered heavily like salt water. Anti seize vastly use on marine or Ships.

[@joe_zupko]

I put anti seize in my bearing races, seems fine... for now hahaha Gotta lean them out and try again :(

[@Eng586]

If this actually happened, rip.

[@slideman.]

You guys are so good! Thanks. I love these videos. (why can't regular school be so fun? )

[@samgriggs4226]

Another great informative and entertaining video

[@alvarra69]

Ok, so I should nawt, NAWT! put ASC-1 on dynamic surfaces, that is: surfaces that move against each other, but… would it be ok to put it on the whole length of a thru axle? In theory the axle shouldn’t rotate against the static part of the hub, so ASC-1 should be ok, wouldn’t it?… how about on the axle ends and the dropouts?… I’m tending to use this stuff more and more, to avoid noises and to create a protective and water repellent coating

[@jorgitogaitan]

THANK YOU!

[@paisfr]

Très intéressant . Merci beaucoup ! ) 👍

[@coachetown]

and don't mix up those tubes! wish they looked the different the ASC and the PPL, only after the bearings sounded and felt like crap did I really question why park had changed the grease color. Great video guys.

[@parktool]

Ooh, that’s a bummer. For next time: the color at the top of the tube denotes the type of compound. Green is PPL, silver is ASC.

[@lionsmusic004]

what an elegant intro!!

[@michap5995]

What about mounting ninja token bottom bracket in carbon frame bike. What grease is best to use to be carbon friendly?

[@namtruong8017]

Great video ❤️

[@noname.7462]

QUESTION!! Should i use the PPL-1 on a thru axel?? And can I use it on pedals aswell??

[@noname.7462]

What about on dropper posts?? (The bottom half)

[@parktool]

You sure can use PPL-1 on thru axles and pedals as well. Greasing the bottom half of droppers on the exterior where it meets the frame is also good to go. It is not advised to use PPL-1 on the internals of the dropper though.

[@noname.7462]

@@parktool ok thank you! and just so you know, I was not intending on using it on the internals of the dropper post LOL

[@noname.7462]

QUESTION!! Can I use HPG on bolted through axels?

[@parktool]

Yes you can!

[@jen3800]

How do I stop the head assembly on my Park Tool PCS-10 from sticking? it won't rotate freely unless I reef on it with a bike or metal tube. i tried WD 40 and grease and no luck. Also, the nut on the thread inside that assembly: should it be snug or allow a little play? Thank you!!

[@alwaysandforever5935]

Hi guys, it might be irrelevant to this video, but can I get some advice from you all, I tried using degreaser on my chains to remove stains and try scrubbing it off but there are still some stuck on it. I tried using soap to finish up my cleaning process and its still there, Any advice please? Thanks in advance:)

[@LJOS21]

This video is soo good! jajajajajaja thank you guys.

[@mirkoravagli9187]

How and where use copper compound paste?

[@Timelapsewithkrishna]

is it better to use grease or vasaline

[@jadonramos3363]

I am a new mountain biker but I have a hard time finding trails how can I find some

[@bobbyhempel1513]

Google "mountain bike trails near me"

[@einHOCHaufWISEGUYS]

depending on your location, you could try - apps/services to find other users tracks like strava, komoot, runtastic MTB - local MTB clubs, e.g. my university offers some (also to non-students) - maybe you can find a local facebook group or events - ask your local bike/ repair shop

[@jadonramos3363]

einHOCHaufWISEGUYS thank you so much for telling me this

[@Thehardrockingpunk]

The Trailforks as well as the Singletracks app also work well, I have discovered trail systems within a few hours drive of me using those.

[@dirtyshirtinfo]

mtbproject - they have an app too.

[@budabead]

another aweseom video thanks guys! I have just come across a PPL-1 in my toolbox (unopened) have had it as a spare and forgotten about it. it has changed color to a sandy yellowy hue.... reckon that could still be used or shall i throw it (and the $$ out the window) ? please advise :O Many thanks! you guys rock!

[@TheBlackfire218]

Nice watch lines Truman

[@parktool]

The tan line game is strong this season.

[@noily8974]

Horizontal measure

[@andrewockenfuss9830]

I'm curious about something. Do professional road cyclists compete with no grease in their front and rear hubs and BB? Since they ride for a sponsor, why would a professional cyclist care if he has to have those three components replaced after a competition? As you have shown, it would give a road cyclist an edge over long distances. Your thoughts are appreciated.

[@parktool]

Some have raced like that but most do not. Some use a lighter weight grease or an oil but no one really runs dry except for some track cyclists running ceramics.

[@DeanGroovy]

For sealed bearings, according to Hambini and Jon Cannings (GCN Tech), you should only put 1/3 of the volume of grease so you don't create drag inside the bearing with too much grease. The analogy I heard some one else say is that it's like walking through 6 inches of water versus waist-deep water; waist-deep being much more difficult because of the extra drag. Look at this video at the 10 minute mark for more detail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/noOvk5Sjg7aUlZI

[@parktool]

Depends on what you will be using the bearing for. If your goal is to go fas, then yes. If your goal is to go far in all weather then you may want to fill it a bit more. This acts as a reservoir too. When using a grease gun on anything you fill it till it is coming out and is completely full. That is on purpose. It will last longer and will help protect your bearings from the elements more effectively. Also when you completely remove the grease from a bearing you want to try to work grease into the nooks and crannies. There are different ways to achieve this as well. On my trailer wheels I take a hand full of grease and work the bearing into the grease laterally to push grease inline with the needles. Grease is fun stuff and plays a huge roll in modern society and can be used in many ways for many different reasons. Oh and there are many many different kinds.

[@acs1018]

@@parktoolnot body wishing to ride all full rain weather.

[@colinjava8447]

I counted 97

[@virkelie2]

What about PPL-1 vs HPG-1 for water resistance?

[@calebjacobs7830]

I believe no grease was 97

[@spacedoodle6989]

Would like to know what the difference is between hpg and ppl.

[@parktool]

HPG has a lower sheer force as well as a wider effective temperature range. This makes it a fast long lasting grease that can be used for many purposes. PPL is thicker with a higher sheer force and better water resistance. Making it a slightly more durable grease.

[@melbman43]

Hey Calvin, are you a re incarnated version of Frank Zappa?, bet I'm not the first person to ask this.

[@AltitudeAerials]

It's like watching bad porn, horrible acting, but funny. Nice vid guys!

[@MarshWaha]

Seriously?! Your comment is insulting!!!

[@AltitudeAerials]

Marshall David WahlstromHelgren sense of humor - google it.

[@CommaCam]

@@AltitudeAerials To be fair tho it is kind of insulting.

[@MarshWaha]

CommaCam thank you!

[@bobbyhempel1513]

108 swings on the swing test with no grease.

[@tylervickers2519]

Yall just gained a customer due solely to Truman's Boon Dock Saints Reference

[@parktool]

"So now we got a huge guy theory, and a serial crusher theory. Top notch."

[@tylervickers2519]

@@parktool people in glass houses sink ships

[@guycohen4403]

Hello , great channel, my seat post keep sliping and I find myself overtightening the screw on the clamp to keep the seat post in place , I heard that sag2 or asc1 by parktool will do the job but I don't have any , what should I do?and does regular grease good as well?

[@faiobbochd]

clean pipe and inner tube from any lube. insert the post clean and dry and check if the clamping is worn out. try wrapping the post with some aluminium foil to get closer to the thing

[@FoVision]

What about anti seize in rotor bolts?

[@parktool]

The heat that can be seen here at the rotor could cause some of the lubricant to creep outward and up the spiders, and that is not a good situation. Stick to a thread-locker here.

[@haydenherreman3057]

Good vid

[@krzysztofgrabowski1102]

I've just installed a brand new Shimano bb86 bottom bracket with the original grease on it and performed the swing test. The result was as bad as the anti seize in the video. Should I degrease the original grease and apply fresh grease?

[@parktool]

Do not remove and de grease. It will likely break-in. There can be some significant seal that helps keep the grease in place. Ride it awhile and see.

[@krzysztofgrabowski1102]

@@parktool Thank you!

[@dippster357]

I have to agree with Michael Vila you just made things more confusing instead of making things perfectly clear, Do another video telling us what kind of grease goes where and why that would be a much better video, I have to use my deducting skills on "Game Of Throne" now i'm too tried to figure out I'M ON MY SECOND SEASON NOW trying to figure out who is who and why are they doing that kind of stuff don't know what is what" with this video, on your remake of this video i will be watching for it to come out.

[@parktool]

Honestly that was the intent to go through and list off where things should go. Thought it would be pretty boring for the first go around so we went the testing route and hope it was fun to watch. Sometimes it takes years to learn how to fish.

[@brockburnett2491]

That was about 70

[@filmtajm35]

Love your videos, but I make it very simple: I use motor oil blended with petrol. Let the petrol evaporat and the oil will stay in place. I'm not even take the bottom bracket apart, only squirt in some oil/ petrol blend in the gaps and the bracket is greased up. I do the same with the bearings on the wheels and also use the same blend on the chain. And I can tell you, I truly gliide away on my bicycle. But the question is: Does this "oiling" damage my bicycle in anyway?

[@jaytulk7696]

I'm just confused. I probably take my bike to the local shop for things I can easily do myself

[@DL-sy5fv]

Can i apply PP L1 when installing mtb pedals?

[@parktool]

PPL-1 loves the MTB pedal threads.

[@Heleninhalinda176]

It swang 93 times without grease!!

[@junjie659]

I counted 93 too

[@italianrelic]

Truman the owners kid??

[@parktool]

Nope, just some kid off the street.

[@Fede6500]

So on seat post is safe to use Anti Seize grease?

[@parktool]

It is safe to use ASC-1 on seatposts.

[@polthomaskeeley7860]

@@parktool Thanks, good to know. Does that go for carbon as well as metal seatposts? I usually use a carbon compound paste for carbon seatposts carbon frames.

[@faiobbochd]

@@polthomaskeeley7860 "For use on steel, aluminum, and titanium" it says on the ASC-1 tube

[@asmsan2315]

6:45 Why Truman sleep on desk? PT don't make any pillows? Such a waste.

[@CarlosThe0272]

Can i use the ppl-1 parktool grease for my rear shock Rockshox Monarch RT3??

[@parktool]

Contact Rockshox to be sure of what will work for your shock. Often a silicone grease is required for the seals and wipers in suspension.

[@lionsmusic004]

hahaha, i like this guys

[@RichardFallstich]

Some people make grease their life's study. Ever hear of NLGI?

[@parktool]

Yes, we have, and they are a slippery group!

[@suechetty3550]

Haven't even watched it yet but it's good

[@PeterZeller1]

This episode was greasy and cheesy.

[@michaelbrashear6308]

Is ASC-1 new?

[@parktool]

It is not. Has been in the lineup quite a few years. its a great product for certain applications.

[@stug45]

@@parktool what's your opinion on this on the back of brake pads? In the motor industry it is generally heat resistant and reduces noise.

[@seany2345]

I learned nothing here... rare bad video from you guys. I need to know the difference in applications between PPL and HPG andddd still cant find the right answers

[@freds-shed]

85

[@matyourin]

I wonder if pro cyclists use no grease? I reckon they don't care about replacing parts every race of it gives them an edge

[@newttella1043]

It is advantage until it suddenly isn't. Not worth the risk of a sudden bearing seizure. Though I have heard of racers taking out one or two bearings to decrease friction in cup and cone setups.

[@jasonzamora2530]

79

[@jajambo1214]

Dear Sir, can I use HPG on the picture pointed, "imgur.com/a/80LZM8j"

[@parktool]

Yes, HPG-1 will work there, but so will most any grease.

[@jajambo1214]

@@parktool thanks

[@lucabonnici941]

69 times

[@allthingsTechrelated]

LUCA BONNICI it was 68

[@Pi03k]

comment

[@CastawayFishn]

How tf do u own this shit

[@cyanginpedro]

👍😂

[@carlinman539]

Unbelievable, your producers must think your demographic is 7 to 14 year olds. Great info but treat us like adults!

[@ed0078]

Carl Inman I agree, for some reason these two just can’t steer away from the kinda garden approach - it gets old