Get Home Bag FAILURE A Deadly Mistake. GHB BoB

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UK Urban Prepper

UK Urban Prepper

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@MunkyWrench
@MunkyWrench 2 ай бұрын
This is a wealth of knowledge . The last 9 days we had holiday and just explored my state.. 100 miles in every direction and it reminded me of a few holes in my BOB .. lots to think about
@ELUSIVEDARTMOOR
@ELUSIVEDARTMOOR 2 ай бұрын
Many people don't have a bag or have too much unnecessary stuff or wouldn't know how to use equipment
@alpha_kilo_prepper
@alpha_kilo_prepper 2 ай бұрын
Like we discussed on the podcast with you mate, those people caught up in the floods would of benefitted hugely from something like this! Everybody thinks it wont happen to them until...
@brashachilles9725
@brashachilles9725 2 ай бұрын
If you can boil water, hot water in a hot water bottle (packs flat) or your single walled water bottle in the Bivvy/sleeping bag during the coldest hours of the night can really help! You are probably only going to sleep 5 hours anyway. Great video we must all learn from our mistakes!
@Ali_Saracen
@Ali_Saracen 2 ай бұрын
Hot water bottle is genius, I must add one now. Thankyou
@kennymccormick3480
@kennymccormick3480 2 ай бұрын
If you don’t have those things You can also pee in a bottle or poo in a bag and shove it under your clothing. Iv heard stories from soldiers doing it to survive 😂
@polonium13
@polonium13 2 ай бұрын
The Range sells half-sized hot water bottles. Perfect for Get Home or BOB.
@Ali_Saracen
@Ali_Saracen 2 ай бұрын
@@polonium13 thanks. I live near The Range
@amfearliathmor9747
@amfearliathmor9747 2 ай бұрын
My current cookset for my go bag is an Evernew ECA402 900ml titanium non stick pot and pan, A Soto Windmaster titanium stove and a Coleman xtreme 300 isobutane/propane gas cartridge with a Soto lighter and a Small Fallkniven U2 knife and a titanium foil windshield.
@jinnsoloeso3011
@jinnsoloeso3011 2 ай бұрын
I had to redo my kit a while ago when I realised it was all wrong. My EDC is literally my handbag... my GHB is a small pouch that will fit in a larger handbag :) My BOB (72hrs) is a 28l backpack and my INCH is 80l plus bike and trailer :) So much of what I had was total overkill and was INCH items! (Thank you ADHD!) The truth is more that Im likely to be traveling through urban areas to get home so Day 1 everything despite the chaos should still be mostly working and food and drinks easily available. Truth is everyones bag is gonna be different so you just gotta do what works for you
@oldbloke204
@oldbloke204 2 ай бұрын
It really is a topic where you can go round and round but not really get anywhere imo. Sure if you're extremely fit, well trained and can spend many hours each week practicing then maybe a setup like the one shown may work but I suspect that a very tiny percentage of people will actually be able to do it.
@vicseed9720
@vicseed9720 2 ай бұрын
Interesting. This is the first time i have watched any of your videos. Thought provoking. Thanks.
@alpha_kilo_prepper
@alpha_kilo_prepper 2 ай бұрын
Very similar set up to mine, nice to see everything in dry bags! I do that, you don't see it that often.
@amfearliathmor9747
@amfearliathmor9747 2 ай бұрын
Going to need some better insulation than a Swagman for insulation for 6 months of the year to keep warm during the night.
@joshhill9462
@joshhill9462 2 ай бұрын
Be more than enough with bivi bag and clothing on imo.
@oldbloke204
@oldbloke204 2 ай бұрын
Certainly a great setup and obviously a very knowledgeable/experienced guy but how many will be able to carry that sort of a pack for any distance before they shred their feet or buckle under the weight of it? He also said he will be tracking roads or railways etc which means you could very well be in paddocks or the bush so you 80-90 miles of distance would likely double in terms of energy use due to walking on uneven surfaces, climbing fences, detours or whatever else. That's not even counting in the fact that if you ever need to do this then likely there will be other problems if society has taken a dump. You would also need to have shoes and a bag that you were very used to using and practiced using them over distances very regularly to have much hope of making that sort of a journey imo. I'm not trying to be negative but maybe there are other options that the vast majority of us would be better off looking at tbh. Maybe only be away from home if you absolutely have to be or if you are going to be in a new area check out places that you can get to that may offer some safety etc. I'm also pretty sure that if societal chaos descends that someone walking around with all that gear will be a juicy target.
@MarineMark
@MarineMark 2 ай бұрын
Remember you may need to think about removing all knives, camping axes, etc., from your vehicle unless you’re travelling to a place where you have good reason to use them. If you’re headed to the supermarket with a bushcraft knife in your boot, police may find it absurd, could get you in trouble. Just a thought ...
@Nellyontheland
@Nellyontheland 2 ай бұрын
This might be true, but in reality unless you give them reason to actually SEARCH your car! Most stops are not for drugs and firearms but for travelling from a to b, and the cop sees something wrong with your car or you are speeding. We have axes, knives, petrol or diesel cans, bill-hooks, a small electric chainsaw (because trees sometimes fall on the roads) Lots of folk have battery powertools, Stanley knives, hammers, axes etc. I might suggest one has MORE in their car, rather than a hidden knife. If one is truly worried, then put a knife into the seat springs of a back seat! But for me, most working men have enough crap in their cars to build a small cart 😂. Don't sweat it. Cheers 🇬🇧
@user-bi8ko7kc6h
@user-bi8ko7kc6h 2 ай бұрын
@@Nellyontheland you guys are talking about completely different situations. He’s talking about knife in boots at supermarket, not cars.
@Nellyontheland
@Nellyontheland 2 ай бұрын
@user-bi8ko7kc6h This might be true too 😄
@vicseed9720
@vicseed9720 2 ай бұрын
You should be fine with a SAK or a non locking multi-tool (Stanley - from Screwfix, not expensive and servicable)
@wiccanways
@wiccanways 2 ай бұрын
Seen roger at a june prepper meet in wales. Hes knows his stuff alright. Rearly nice fella 😊
@deeps2761
@deeps2761 2 ай бұрын
All our situations are different and what we would be using the bag for are all different. If I was expecting to be living out of a bag for 7 days it would be a bit more substantial but I still have a strong back. Alternatively if I was looking at 80 to 90 miles I'd be looking at 4 or 5 days transit all things being equal. As I say we're all different. There's no 'one size fits all' when it comes to this stuff and while we can all learn from one another there's no one right way to do it. Good luck with it mate, have a play with your gear and find out what suits you, plenty options and we all have our preferences.
@brashachilles9725
@brashachilles9725 2 ай бұрын
Put an instant hand warmer under the gas for 15 mins out of the wind or keep the gas cartridge in an inner pocket soaking up body heat and it will probably work. Butane is dodgy at or below freezing, so butane/propane mix is better. Primus makes a special winter gas cartridge. It has internal modifications to help it work below freezing. Pricey, but just one for the get home bag.
@BloosSelfReliance
@BloosSelfReliance 2 ай бұрын
That’s awesome. I love the penny stove.
@jelkel25
@jelkel25 2 ай бұрын
I've done a get home a couple of times, about 75 miles each time. The situation was different, obviously grid up and in the same area where I lived so I didn't need (or have) as much kit. The fundamentals were the same though, you are scared and cold at night and your feet are slowly being turned to mush. I could plot out a nice simple route beside a road or a maintained path, walk at night and get a couple of hours sleep on a bench or in the middle of nowhere in the day when it was warmer. Not the best course of action grid down. I'd only set up camp if it was raining. One thing I've noticed being a walker/hiker recently, the paths are often not as well maintained as they were already. The money for that might go before the grid collapses so many paths will no longer be maintained. One summer will block many, something to keep in mind.
@Lee_Proffit
@Lee_Proffit 2 ай бұрын
That is good practice and will help you decide what works and what don't, letting you modify the pack till you are only carrying what you need and works for you 👍🏼👍🏼
@jelkel25
@jelkel25 2 ай бұрын
@@Lee_Proffit Thanks!
@Liquid_People
@Liquid_People 2 ай бұрын
Bicycles are your friend.
@michaelw2288
@michaelw2288 2 ай бұрын
Why would anyone choose to walk for 3-5 days instead of cycle for 1-2 days? Mil types are stuck in a mil mindseat of "tabbing" and "yomping"
@paulevans-u2o
@paulevans-u2o 2 ай бұрын
I always try and have kit that can be used for more than one task it cuts down on weight but also still serves your needs . So when are they having another meet be interested in going .thanks for sharing some good points to consider there well thought out
@JimMos74
@JimMos74 2 ай бұрын
Spot on mate. Glad you had a good time. Roger is a bit like Yoda in the world of prepping. Hope you feel like turning up for next year's Cornwall Outdoor & Survival Meet.
@UKUrbanPrepper
@UKUrbanPrepper 2 ай бұрын
@@JimMos74 get me dates and count me in.
@OutdoorPrepper2025
@OutdoorPrepper2025 2 ай бұрын
It's all trial and error,you have to test yourself and test your kit to see what works for you and what your comfortable with, having certain items that are multi functional is a bonus,i just swap certain items out due to the season's I'm always testing my kit and pushing its boundaries a bit too see what its capable of, nice little learning curve for you Mike and we can all learn something new.
@TUKByV1
@TUKByV1 2 ай бұрын
Do not be unalive.
@amfearliathmor9747
@amfearliathmor9747 2 ай бұрын
Getting a descent tent shelter is quite challenging for a go bag today mainly due to cost, as getting a fully robust 4 season winter tent will be heavy as well for a geodesic 4 pole wind stable design for UK conditions. A poncho just wont be able to provide a safe enough shelter to keep out the wind, rain and snow all year round. I wouldn't even trust a walking pole tent and the other side entry coffin tents would be very uncomfotable for a long winter night without a suitable vestibule for cooking and food prep.
@wiggy1066
@wiggy1066 2 ай бұрын
i met Roger over the summer and hope he will be at the prepper meet in brecon in september. top bloke :)
@BlesamaSoul
@BlesamaSoul 2 ай бұрын
Things to ensure you can get home in a northern UK climate, if it is anything like mine you could face daily temps in winter that do not exceed 6 degrees, air/ground frost, snow, freezing rain, high winds with v low windchill factor and long hours of darkness that means you cannot travel over rural ground safely. Windproof smock and a insultation jacket/layer for later in the day when you stop something like a Mountain Hardwear Men's Ghost Whisperer will pack down in your smock for storage within a small dry bag or an Arktis B474 Vulcan Jacket if you wish to avoid down fill. Sleeping systems add a good poncho or tarp, then a length of Tyvek (Trifecta version is useful) to use as a groundsheet to place a Thermarest Neoair Xtherm NXT sleeping pad upon, these are excellent R value and pack down to a small size to fit inside your bergan. Sleeping bag - Thermarest Hyperion 32F is good for -15 degrees (keep in a dry bag) and paired with a good bivy bag you will be safe from the weather the north can throw at people in winter. A TRC Cierzo Shirt is always a good addition to any get home kit as it is light and windproof even when wet (yes I have tested that myself). I won't unload all of our kit onto your channel as everyone has specific requirements and choices to make, but I really would not go light or skip insulation layers if I was going to be travelling during a grid down / SHTF situation in northern England/Scotland as that is just asking to die from exposure or suffer for hours thinking why didn't a pack some warmer kit!
@garycrawford2622
@garycrawford2622 2 ай бұрын
Is there any group in Scotland for us preppers
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 2 ай бұрын
Sex offenders group
@janicereadymartcher7696
@janicereadymartcher7696 2 ай бұрын
For a quick meal I like a pack of noodles mixed in with a cup a soup, mmm. Phil
@SaintsofAvalon
@SaintsofAvalon 2 ай бұрын
My bags a shoulder satchel bag - it has 2 foil blankets / fire starting kit / 50ft jute cordage / mess tin set ( most of the bag contents fits into ) / water filter / 4 chlorine tablets / 4 packs savoury rice and veg / 4 chicken cup soups / 4 instant hot chocolate drinks / 2 tins chopped ham n pork / tube 20 energy tablets / knife roll with #6 #8 #10 opinels / manual pull chainsaw / 4 black bin bags / 10 swing bin bags / 4 packs of 10 tissues / 2 tubes of alcohol hand sanatiser / 1 pair of leather work gloves / 1 hand crank torch / bicycle puncture outfit and a small hand pump / 2 pair of socks and a scrim for head covering or mosquito net . No big sheet as i use a MilTec lined poncho that is basically a wearable tent that can be put in it's stuff sack and attached to the shoulder bag iff it's too warm . Around 1/4 of the size of the bag in the video with enough to keep me going for 4 or 5 days . Dont carry a map or compass as it's the UK and i always know my way home from wherever i am day or night . My main prority is " liberating " a bicycle to get mobile and get travelling at 15-20mhp rather than walking at 3-4mph.
@snapdragon2441
@snapdragon2441 2 ай бұрын
Anyone tested out the Pure Clear water filters? It can do the same as a Grayl apparently but at a fraction of the price. British made, just don’t know anyone who has tried it. Have you thought Mike, rather than making a GHB then coming back to show us (waiting in anticipation), why don’t we (the community) build ours together. Run a series, taking each part ie water, food, shelter etc. everyone can give their thoughts, experience and advice so we all end up with a usable kit over a reasonable time frame.
@Lee_Proffit
@Lee_Proffit 2 ай бұрын
I did look at them and they would be great as a water bottle for use on the move, but not so good it you want to pour clean water into another vessel (for cooking or giving the dog a drink)as the Pure Clear takes the water from the bottom of the bottle, so wont work upside down 😞 I went with the big Grayl, as I get through lots of water
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 2 ай бұрын
Preppers = Walter Mitty Rambos.😂😂😂
@amfearliathmor9747
@amfearliathmor9747 2 ай бұрын
My current go bag backpack is an 55 litre 1.21 Kg Aarn Featherlite Freedom PRO, which sounds like a condom name brand, which I imported from New Zealand.
@amfearliathmor9747
@amfearliathmor9747 2 ай бұрын
I will also include a Hawke Endurance ED 8x25 Monocular into the go bag together with an Acebeam Terminator M1 torch so I can see what is going on at least half a mile away during the daylight or in complete darkness.
@Apairoffluffysocks
@Apairoffluffysocks 2 ай бұрын
Good video
@apar1560
@apar1560 2 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@feralyamyam
@feralyamyam 2 ай бұрын
Probably wouldn't die but probably would be uncomfortable and have to embrace the suck.
@RJStans
@RJStans 2 ай бұрын
Just my thoughts. I think there's loads of things to consider with GHBs, but for me, my preference is having as little weight as possible in my pack, and therefore getting home as quickly as possible, as an overarching principle. So, the question I'm asking myself is what a reasonable minimum I could survive and get home on, even if really uncomfortable. I know if I had the pack shown here, that weight would hinder me somewhat going 100 miles in 7 days! And, in my experience hiking across Dartmoor with stupid sized packs, it's the little luxuries that add the weight.
@RJStans
@RJStans 2 ай бұрын
So, for myself, there's some things in this kit I wouldn't have, and some others I'd add. I wouldn't have 2 ways of heating food/water, I'd have 1 way with food I can eat cold also, and for water, I have a filter anyway. I would have far less redundancy, so less ways of lighting fires, less cordage etc. I'd be fine with half that food for 7 days, so there'd be half of that. Rat traps are obviously his personal preference, but I wouldn't take anything like that. As extras I'd add train and bus timetables (99% of times, 'get home' would mean getting to and taking public transport home), addresses marked on a map of people I know on my likely way home, and mirror/SOS flashing torch to signal for help (I'm sure he'd have that in his kit somewhere) - even in SHTF, if I've broken my femur and lying in a ditch, I'm going to risk getting others to help before I bleed to death!
@Lee_Proffit
@Lee_Proffit 2 ай бұрын
Agree, lighter pack = faster travel 🙂
@UniversalSovereignCitizen
@UniversalSovereignCitizen 2 ай бұрын
Too big... Too bulky... Too heavy!
@Omegalux
@Omegalux 2 ай бұрын
Where is the best place to keep up to date on the next meetup? Many thanks.
@UKUrbanPrepper
@UKUrbanPrepper 2 ай бұрын
@@Omegalux I will post details soon. But the midlands one has a Facebook group.
@Omegalux
@Omegalux 2 ай бұрын
@@UKUrbanPrepper Appreciated.
@Lee_Proffit
@Lee_Proffit 2 ай бұрын
The first rule of anything is to know how it works. To build a BoB / Get home bag based on purely theory and to not even test it, is in my view pure stupidity. Had you had a need to use it, then that is not the time to realise that it is going to fail, as that is too late. Not having a go at Mike, but just stating the obvious 😞 The guy's cook set looked to be based on the mk2 Crusader cooker (which uses a Trangia style stove, hex block or Dragon gel) - which is a good bit of kit for any bag I thought that the rat traps were a bit overkill - and extra weight - blood from a dead rat is just going to attract more rats 🐀🐀
@oldbloke204
@oldbloke204 2 ай бұрын
What percentage of people do you think could carry that a mile even on a good surface? How many could carry it 5 miles without turning their feet into Hamburger?
@Lee_Proffit
@Lee_Proffit 2 ай бұрын
@@oldbloke204 Carry what ? matey's rucksack ?
@oldbloke204
@oldbloke204 2 ай бұрын
@@Lee_Proffit The bag being demonstrated at the gathering.
@Lee_Proffit
@Lee_Proffit 2 ай бұрын
@@oldbloke204 That's what I thought too, better to go light and fast. His drink packet was nearly as big as his food packet 🙂
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