Get off my train | Train Life part 8

[@project1003]

Yeah, as amusing as this is to watch, I'm sure that it would be much less amusing to play. Wishlist and wait for the devs to straighten out this mess. Early Access shouldn't be 'Please pay us to Alpha Test our spaghetti code.'

[@Cleefbag71]

It isn't amusing though, which is why I read the description and didn't bother (I saw one of the Transport Fever bridge episodes). How much more of this irredeemable pile of crap is going to be foisted on us? If he's stuck for games, Founders Fortune and Foundation are two games off the top of my head that have both had updates that are far more deserving of the attention than this garbage.

[@aircooledorion]

You have more patience than me I would have wood chipped this straight away and sorted a new game until the devs sort this mess out

[@Wourghk]

I hope the dev is watching these videos. The fact they launched a public playable version of the game that's so broken, and haven't fixed a single issue yet, doesn't speak well of their capabilities.

[@shedlord2447]

Exactly. When you're a developer and CF does a better job playing Software Inc. than you're doing in real life, it's time to have a word with yourself.

[@SimuDan]

There are some issues with routing any the like, but it’s a complete enough game to be enjoyable. It’s also still in beta, so isn’t the final “release” version. Give them some credit…

[@richardskelton3605]

You have the patience of a Saint sir. I'd of given up on this game by now

[@sparkieT88]

I couldn't keep playing this game with its problems right now. More power to the colonel for putting up with the problems it has now.

[@pexeq]

This game brought me back to Derail Valley, which is great.

[@KorbinianMuc]

I'd Interpret that menu at 4:40 as saying you have about 30min to get to Berlin. Then you were late so that was cancelled and for some reason you had passengers going somewhere else on board that obviously didn't want to exit in Berlin. So I guess the saving/loading messed a lot up.

[@lordsanityfree]

Ok, I subbed. Your little conversations with yourself are just too funny for me to ignore.

[@Baleur]

16:10 i like the bats flying over the track, nice touch. Very avant garde

[@Dr_Bart_147]

At around 20 minutes in, the game seems to suggest you have one hour to drop your passengers off at Bremen Main. If your passengers are expecting to arrive in Bremen I can understand they'd be reluctant to get off in Berlin. Why they would think the train was destined for Bremen in the first place is a bit of a mystery...

[@papasmurfette007]

Yep. At 20:40 the only line left that is not Cancelled is Origin: Hannover & Destination: Bremen Main. I suspect that saving it screwed up the schedule somehow...

[@Veloxyll]

@@papasmurfette007 The Berlin Passengers should really debark. Or the game should set any platform for the moment untilline selection is more obvious.

[@realShadowKat]

Indeed patience of a Saint with this game. The devs would be well served by watching the video to experience the frustration that is to be had. Maybe a year or so if they hunker down they can pull this one out, but in its current form, not so much.

[@dubaut]

Just imagine you are sitting in a train and the train driver pulls in into every single track just to check if it's the right one.

[@fishpop]

I can agree that the English language can get pretty weird at times. Case in point: Pacific Ocean has three Cs that're all said differently. Sih, k'h and shuh respectively.

[@maidenminnesota1]

Yes, but contrary to popular belief, American English is considered more "archaic", meaning we speak it more the way it used to be spoken. The UK changed, not the US, except for spelling because Theodore Roosevelt was a horrendous speller, so decided to push the US to spell more phonetically. Then there's my own personal use of the language. I use the spelling of "theater" to mean where movies are shown, but "theatre" for a live performance venue, as it feels a little more highbrow to me. I also use gray and grey interchangeably, with grey being my preference. To use The Colonel's example, you "orient" something, you don't "orientate" it. Therefore, it would be "oriented" (the American English version) and not "orientated". Why the British add all those extra letters and syllables is beyond me.

[@saxxan8301]

@@maidenminnesota1 I am from England & agree with you. I think the problem was a couple hundred years ago when "they" (?) decided to change spellings...example: Flem became Phlegm... crazy!

[@imsvale]

I've picked up the game as well, and have noted that frequently the track indicator is missing when you go to a passenger station to deboard and board passengers. On the bright side, if you throw 12 cars on there and do a few stops successfully, you make quite a bit of money (when you do know where to drop them). And then you buy a faster locomotive, and then the snowball just breaks supersonic, because if you deliver hours ahead of schedule (which you will after a few stops of racing at 160 km/h), you get such a large bonus, the fact that you completely ignored any and all speed limits on the way, is drops in the ocean. Even if you derail, what is 10k if you get 200-500k at each stop.

[@teebodk3917]

At the current stage, this is clearly an early Alpha. A typical sign is, that various branches of action haven't been playtested, meaning that the game will work as intended, if you do EXACTLY as instructed, without any delays, mistakes, changes in sequence of actions, saves, reloads or experiments. Even the slightest deviation and you're outside the tested boundaries and facing all sorts of mishaps and deathloops. It seems that in this case, the deviatio from plan consisted of saving and reloading. Something clearly went wrong there with the timer going from "well ahead of schedule" to "behind schedule".

[@imsvale]

You know, bugs are allowed to exist in a beta, which is typically what early access is (and in this case, going by the beta label in the lower left corner). I'm not sure what you expect from an early access game.

[@Cleefbag71]

@@imsvale If your game's AI system is so fundamentally broken that you have to rip it out entirely, you're not in beta.

[@imsvale]

@@Cleefbag71 They didn't rip it out. They disabled it to give players a chance at progression, while they fix it. Yes, it's broken, but it's not fundamentally broken. Big difference.

[@Cleefbag71]

@@imsvale If its presence was stopping players from progressing then that in my book is fundamentally broken.

[@imsvale]

@@Cleefbag71 It's not unheard of to have features disabled in release versions, if they're not working quite as intended and for the moment just getting in the way. Let alone during beta, not to mention alpha. What this is certainly not, is *clearly* alpha. That's a notion I will thoroughly reject.

[@j0hnf_uk]

A new concept in public transport party games. Musical platforms. Passenger have to wait for the music to stop before disembarking from carriages.

[@Krisz98]

When approaching a train station with passengers. The railway switches should be locked. To guide you to your station. Since its really annoying to roll around trying to find your correct station. Or just let me use any of it. If theres any avaliable platforms according to traffic. How i figured it out is that you HAVE TO have a route in your GPS and when you acces a station the switch..thingy shows you the way to the correct platform.

[@Veloxyll]

That would be ideal. And make sense for realism reasons - the stationmaster should be the one guiding your train. Though how that'd work with Station Access or getting to workshops, I don't know. I guess just have them as radio options would be the easy option.

[@benrgrogan]

Seems to be - once the passengers are late the service is automatically cancelled...seems an oddly harsh and unrealistic gameplay mechanic though

[@Veloxyll]

Especially since other contracts merely slowly decay when you go overtime. But that appears to be what happened. I wanted to test out upgrading a city, but I did a save and it ate my 12 iron ore wagons. So saving/loading needs some work on keeping gamestate. There's some bugs/gremlins with how hired drivers work too but, well, early access. There's the core of a good game here, so my current recommendation would be to wait a few months and see how it's looking.

[@John14-20]

5:41 "one smelts therefore one is" this is my favorite quote now

[@marcausn]

the way the passenger system works in this game (of course this is wrong and far from reality): If you set a route A->B->C->D passengers enter your train in station A for destinations B, C and D - what is alright so far. At station B people enter for stations C and D, BUT ALSO for station A (the do the same at the other stations)... first issue is, that the counter does set the timetablr that in no way is possible to be fulfilled, the other issue is, that you never told, you will be going back and forth... on the other hand, no passenger would enter a train, that is going to the south for example, if he wants to go to the north... he would enter when the train is going back to the north, of course...

[@TTravel.Adventures]

I get the same problem at Berlin, its a guess game..... you can tell it is in very early access

[@marcausn]

if you announce your arrival at Berlin and have enough time left, the gps guided me to the right platform, but didn't show me the track in the 3D view (yellowed tracks and V indicator). I noticed, when I announced taking passengers from Berlin, there is the blue message in the top center of the screen... as soon as I enter the correct track, it changes to "let the passengers descend" or something like that (played in German language). As long as you don't see this message, you know you are at the wrong track... However, if you need too much time to get there (seeing in the menu of your train - via "Tab") and time has run out, you won't see this anymore. It is a known bug that you don't see the correct track in Berlin. As it is annoying to me, too, I don't deliver PAX to Berlin till they fix it.

[@Veloxyll]

@@marcausn It looks like it's a timing issue. ie if you are late with passengers, you immediately get the contract cancelled. Which is an odd mechanic, especially since other contracts don't instantly abort when they;'re overdue.

[@marcausn]

@@Veloxyll yes and no... it is both... in CFs case, he was too late, that's right... he could be ten times at the right track, they would not descend, as he is too late. EDIT: But the Berlin issue is, that the loading zone is not displayed (the zone is always displayed even if you are late, because people board the train at the station, when you announce it)

[@Veloxyll]

@@marcausn Which is a problem in itself, of course. It should have still accepted the late delivery and given him a platform to unload at, even if, like freight contracts, you get reduced payment for late deliveries. If he'd been on time, the passenger transfer would have worked normally. Definitely still work needed on the game

[@jasonmorgan9745]

Having a few beers atm, but really looking forward to watching this. Hope it's a good 'un

[@GretchenDawntreader]

nice nod to "Get off my bus"

[@GretchenDawntreader]

I have to wonder, if you cleared the problem by redoing station permissions, which might have given the highlighted "this track over here" but you couldn't see it. But then trying it over again voided the passenger contract. Alternately, there was only one active contract, it might have wanted you to get fresh passengers in Hanover? Once a job cancels do the passengers just rapture out of your train and you have to go get fresh ones?

[@marcusfowler8544]

To me it looks like if you don't make it in time when delivering passengers to a station then it cancels you being able to drop them off

[@rickboivin7732]

Here's what I observed: 11:15: asked permission of Berlin Main to access station to board passengers. Was given instruction "Passengers boarding - proceed to station Berlin Main" 11:27: entered station limits. Was given instruction "Passengers boarding - proceed to track" 12:25 as you pulled even with the platforms under the station shed, Was given instruction "Passengers boarding - proceed to station Berlin Main" Time passes... Roll outro My wild guess: At 12:25, the trip was cancelled and you entered a Catch-22. The game was insisting you go to Berlin Main and depassenger your train, but it had removed the platform assignment and the trip completion triggers when it cancelled the run. Therefore you can't complete the run and are trapped forever outside Berlin Main. Poor old Hans. P.S. I read the Description before watching so I knew the correct platform was None of the Above.

[@chrishampe]

Since its an elevated station in Berlin, I suspect the devs have put the stopping locations at ground level. So just jump the train off the tracks on the approach, crash through the arches and all the passengers will gladdly get off :-;

[@Lirchicus]

The struggle is real... entertainment! :)

[@Onyxx98]

Well german passengers will even be happy that the train arrives punctually a plus being that the AC is working

[@timjerrom7173]

Like the path episode but with more momentum, nice job sir. Must of been one of the glass Windows that gave you an error! Happy Star Trek day Colonel F Live long and get out of that station.

[@semiperfekt]

Why did I enjoy this?

[@Laudrien]

Guten tag meine damen und herren, we are now coming in to Berlin hauptbahnhof gleis 7 (possibly, hard to know really). You may see some smoke on our left side, do not be alarmed. It is just Colonel Failure who is burning his cars out of frustration. Happens most thursdays

[@IanTyldesley]

I am sorry but at the moment this game is just a futile exercise in frustration. I have bought so many games i have seen you play, not touching this one.

[@TRNHardy]

You have to request to drop them off like you do cargo and if you do it before you request entry to the station then ask for entry second you it overrides the delivery request. So ask for entry then ask to drop off passengers.

[@urbanrallyracer]

Great video, Colonel! Sorry it gave you such a hard time to go about it though.

[@MudCorpPlaythroughs]

The correct platforms/loading points are always highlighted by a orange glow on the tracks. What may cause the error in the GPS navigation is not loading the route planning when you setup the route. It actually asks if you want to load the route into the GPS. (Cancel any previously loaded route first from the gps) I think this might have been a route you made your self to Berlin Main. Hope this helps you out I have almost 0 issues with the game after they removed the AI traffic and understood the sign/track idea of the devs.

[@chrishampe]

It seams that the when you change the next switch to go left the game is actually switching every switch on the map to go left. So press left once and you will be going left until you change to go right.

[@Jouski]

My guess is there isn't any switcheroo switching, it's only indicating which turn the train takes..

[@zekrom6537]

@@Jouski thats exactly right there isnt an actual track switch movement like in tsw its more like driving a car where you cant steer but when you get to an intersection you can pick to turn right or left and the car does it for you quite stupid

[@Evergreen64]

Yep. The game definitely needs work. If nothing else it just needs some instruction to tell you HOW it's supposed to work. Rather than just guess at how it's supposed to work.

[@flacch]

Thoroughly tested is best knowledge. Lol

[@zekrom6537]

in my opinion the issue with AI trains is that they just randomly spawn they dont follow a specific route they just magically teleport and if you get far enough from them they disappear, they should make it so the ai trains follow a schedule or at least go on some short trips

[@HodeliGodeli]

Amazing simply amazing i think you're the only channel getting away with 20+min of trying to offload passengers i didn't mind watching it at all keep it up

[@colonelfailure]

I suspect you don't yet have your Pathfinder badge...

[@DoctorMagdaki]

@@colonelfailure that was the most Colonel Failure episode ever

[@SteadyBob]

TBH watching the same path for nearly an hour waiting to see if anybody was going to walk up was really fun as well :)

[@Sargon_of_Cincinnati]

Compelling! 🤣

[@antygod]

i guess once the route has been cancelled the game expects you to go to the next route and ignore the fact that you have passengers on the train that are expecting to go to the Berlin in this instance

[@rickboivin7732]

The last route to cancel was to arrive at Bremen Main, yet the game said "proceed to station Berlin Main" in the "Passengers boarding" dialogue box.

[@antygod]

@@rickboivin7732 maybe the game was stuck in the station permission loop and leaving the station area would have changed the on-screen dialogue?

[@rickboivin7732]

@@antygod Actually as I typed that, I had a revelation and I've just posted my shaky theory. Agreed on the loop, unsure if he can reset it. He tried resetting it inside station limits. Your theory remains untested and is worth testing, but I think poor old Hans was about to rage quit his position with the railway 😜.

[@FilipLamparski]

Funny this is set in Germany because this is clearly Southern Railway Simulator

[@coolbreeze8547]

If you don't arrive before the arrival time in the station, you lose the passengers/money.

[@well-over-5025]

LMAO ... Hmm ... Maybe you needed to exit the stn then request entry and then request passenger unload ... just a thought ...

[@xsaucecherryx]

this!!! the black dot indicated the track which was right the first time. but still enjoy the content.

[@Gryvix]

yeah I thought it was that too, before entering the station area, request access and then request boarding

[@jodymartin2730]

I think that was it, he missed a step.

[@rogermusson4110]

I think that one of the tracks (left of the first one you tried) was a brighter orange, and probably the correct one. All the same, this was ridiculous.

[@fishpop]

Who else read that title like Harrison Ford?

[@sethtriggs]

How does this game not have indications as to where your stopping target is? Like even having the controller tell you which track to go to, since there's no theatre box to tell you where to go. And there's no car length markers in the station. What gives? This is seriously unplayable. Video was entertaining and I echo the other comments that I hope the devs are listening.

[@RicardoSavino]

Just got this game thanks to you. I am pkaying it with a button box and is very, very fun.

[@afacelessname1378]

Orientated is British English and Oriented is american English... apparently.

[@GimbleOnDew]

What does this offer over detail valley?

[@colonelfailure]

Primarily the opportunity to hire additional employees to run trains for you, and (when they fix it) AI trains.

[@GimbleOnDew]

@@colonelfailure thanks, map seems bigger and can run passenger trains too

[@ringgeest11]

Two simple things that would make the path finding and routing much better... Add a simple bloody resistance on rails that have stations on them so you avoid them. And number 2, just give me the stupidest simplest routing choice of all times, going straight! Like what, left are right make perfect sense, but you've forgotten how to go straight? On a machine which runs on rails? Who's primary ruddy directive is go to straight over tracks and have the tracks bent you around without having to turn a wheel?? EDIT: Got the lacking of any indication of what to do to unload those passengers... The game has potential, but it is like the devs have never, ever played it as a player and just decided to launch it anyway. This game is not a damn beta, it is an alpha. A genuine Alpha in the 'OG' meaning that it's mostly a tech demo and needs to have a lot of features still added. i.e. Functioning nav, the simplest of abilities in navigation - going straight, and of course the glaring lack of any indication of where the player is supposed to be... Taking the AI trains out was the best decision they made, because there are zero core mechanics in the game yet that can support AI trains a feature...

[@zekrom6537]

i agree the AI trains dont follow a schedule they are just these magical creature who able to randomly teleport on the track within a set specific range and has no idea what to do lol, the ai trains should follow a fucking schedule like in TSW... make them do small tasks like your supposed ai train helpers would too so train dont just teleport randomly but actually follow a route and a specific time lets say it starts at a log collecting place at 11:00 then should arrive at this specific warehouse or sawmill at 14:00 or whatever time so this train will always do exactly that, but before they removed the ai trains how this worked was: train spawned he break and stop there forever unless you go far enough back to despawn it or go around it if you lucky and despawn it that way, i tested it a lot i went back only a bit to the point that i cant see the ai train yet then waited a good 15 mins and went forward again and it was stil there, but if i went twice as far backand without wait i went again forward it magically vanished i cranked it up to max speed thinking it just moved forward but nope the ai train is gone vanished once it despawns as if it never existed

[@sndrwlsn82]

I would suggest u r in Berlin instead of Bremen. Could this be the problem?

[@erikhoglund666]

This Simulator needs to get better. 😩

[@Graxster]

@Colonel Failure: Press semi colon, then use WASD + mouse movement. You're welcome.

[@DoctorMagdaki]

Does it ever amuse you to know that your " the game wasted my time" is our time well spent?

[@SergiuCopas]

you forgot to ask the station to let you in before you ask to board the ppl...that was your issue

[@cocojones959]

Yup I seem to recall a similar problem during the first attempt to unload passengers in a previous episode. It should really give an error saying you don't have access yet but the game just leaves you hanging.

[@colonelfailure]

First time around I did exactly what I did here - made the mistake of asking for passenger permission without station permission (which should be sufficient, otherwise it's just pointless bureaucracy) then did it the right way and it worked. Not so this time.

[@Veloxyll]

Nah. it was an overdue issue. I've run passengers and you don't have to ask for access if you're loading/unloading. Ditto cargo - you just hit load/unload and it lets you in. Apparently if you're overdue, and your passenger wagons are full of overdue passengers, the game doesn't just offload them at the current station. You're instead supposed to cart them all to the next station in your route. And because you have no space in your wagons, the game doesn't highlight a track to stop at and swap passengers over, leading to the cascade failure with the Bremen passengers too.

[@gustavo.heiden]

I guess you've made a "bridge episode" in Train Life. Thanks Colonel.

[@georgeharris3630]

Berlin??? Bremen??? I wonder... but I think you were late mate.

[@maidenminnesota1]

16:43 I'm thinking THAT was where you were supposed to stop. I saw you take the incorrect track when pulling into the station the first time (militantly clinging to the right side of the track, instead of taking the left you were directed to at the station). Here you were on the correct track, but you blasted past the loading zone. The passengers standing about facing the train might have been a clue as to where to stop, but what do I know?

[@OPTIKUK]

Very entertaining Sam!

[@SeanMurrellRTS]

The game fine the user....... He needed to ask for passenger loading before coming in.

[@jamesmalone1680]

I give you 5 but skipped the 6

[@fishpop]

5:50 Making eating jokes about The Fat Controller? Well it's not like Thomas fans haven't already been doing that for years so it's fine. Pretty often; humorous fan videos will have TFC give engines their jobs, then excuse himself as there's a cream bun or something with his name on it.

[@honkerbonker6700]

69 likes. Nice :)

[@KawaiiSoulB42]

Get a 200,000 electric train and haul some oil for some fat stack of cash

[@RavenZahadoom]

CF how are you going to employ an AI driver when there is no AI in the game? Not sure who's worse right now, the devs or you?

[@Veloxyll]

They drive spooooky ghost trains that are invisible.

[@MikelNaUsaCom]

hobos?