Get Out of His Way! - A Look Back at Ken Shamrock in WWE

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@WrestlingWithWregret
@WrestlingWithWregret 12 күн бұрын
ALL MY WRESTLER RETROSPECTIVES! kzbin.info/aero/PLdy7NPpr-Icxk08WVNWy_hh-Ay68Y5R_u
@patricknguyen7530
@patricknguyen7530 Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest disappointment of Ken leaving was that around the same time, Kurt Angle was debuting, just the fact we never got Kurt vs Ken would always be a disappointment
@DasNordlicht91
@DasNordlicht91 Жыл бұрын
Had Shamrock not gotten hurt, we’d for sure have him as Kurt Angle’s debut feud. Could’ve even led to Angle adopting the Ankle Lock as his finisher earlier.
@namemcnamerton4249
@namemcnamerton4249 Жыл бұрын
​@@DasNordlicht91The new contract Vince wanted Ken to sign had a no shoot fight clause so Ken went to TNA.
@TravisBroski
@TravisBroski Жыл бұрын
In my AE fantasy booking I do Angle/Shamrock at Armageddon '99 in an Ultimate Submission match.@@DasNordlicht91
@AW-kr9fl
@AW-kr9fl Жыл бұрын
Imagine them as a tag team! Double Ankle Lock finisher
@chrispodesta8105
@chrispodesta8105 Жыл бұрын
Aaaaarrrrrrrrgh I forgot about this
@82gamerprincess31
@82gamerprincess31 Жыл бұрын
Kinda bonkers how many times Shane McMahon was right and ignored. Shane wanted to buy UFC, he basically wanted to do with ECW what WWE did with NXT, He pushed for using the internet more like with the wwe network, he pushed for more of the internet darling talent to be brought in, etc. Now he just feels like a footnote in WWE pushed out by his dad, his sister, and HHH. I genuinely feel Shane was just as visionary for WWE’s future as HHH has been and that in a rather insane way Vince saw him as competition the way he was to his dad.
@tairenk.3996
@tairenk.3996 Жыл бұрын
We'll never fully know what went on behind the scenes, but I've always had this underlying theory that Vince secretly wanted his son, or anyone really, to directly challenge and usurp the company from his cold hands like some medieval folktale. In the end, Shane, for all his vision and bright ideas, really loved his father and lacked the mental fornitude that Vince was looking for in his would-be successor.
@relser187
@relser187 10 ай бұрын
@@tairenk.3996wow this hits hard, but surely has to be true, given Vince damn near ran WWE into the ground with controversy after controversy. It took the man getting involved in one of the most notorious lawsuits we’ve ever seen to finally give up the throne for goodness sakes!
@plshelpmeawkdough
@plshelpmeawkdough 10 ай бұрын
UFC would've failed under Vince cause they wouldn't know what to do with it especially since the UFC was banned in many states and on most PPV providers aka The Dark Ages (MMAonPoint has a great video on that time period and it was rough). UFC only blew up because of Griffin vs Forrester which happened in the finale of the ultimate fighter a reality show that I doubt Vince would've came up with. Then we're talking about the Internet in 2001, which is when he came up with the idea for ECW, idk about you but I remember the Internet was pretty rough back then lol and even shit like ByteThis rarely looked and ran good and that was in 2005 with people just sitting still half the time.
@BlackLaGoonies
@BlackLaGoonies 9 ай бұрын
​@@plshelpmeawkdough Bonnar was Griffin's opponent (I'm guessing you knew and just turned Forrest Griffin and Bonnar into Forrester; we've all done that haha) but otherwise I agree 100% - UFC would have turned into the Brawl for All on a massive scale if Vince tried to run it
@IhateOldbergthewrestler-rc4qr
@IhateOldbergthewrestler-rc4qr 6 ай бұрын
I think it was only worth $2m at the time too.
@TheCheat420
@TheCheat420 Жыл бұрын
It's so crazy to think that tap outs weren't a thing in the WWF before 1997.
@mythicgamer6291
@mythicgamer6291 10 ай бұрын
Tazz brought attention to it through ECW and WWE/WCW soon followed suit
@DarkScorpionPete98
@DarkScorpionPete98 9 ай бұрын
@@mythicgamer6291I thought it all started with UFC 1 in 1993.
@PhilipBelmont
@PhilipBelmont 9 ай бұрын
@@DarkScorpionPete98 He;s just saying in the world of pro wrestling, not martial arts in general.
@mgkiryuu
@mgkiryuu Жыл бұрын
I think there is at least 1 thing that everyone can agree about Ken Shamrock...and that is that he had one of the most badass and greatest songs for his entrance music.
@fortcastellan1730
@fortcastellan1730 Жыл бұрын
Seconded. It's still on my personal playlist!
@PhilasifyCreativity
@PhilasifyCreativity Жыл бұрын
It's in my workout playlist at the gym. I've been waiting 20 years for him to return to WWE so I could mark out when I hear it. Imagine if it played during a Rumble entry.
@shady3legend
@shady3legend Жыл бұрын
​@PhilasifyCreativity suprise they haven't did that yet, matter of fact I'm surprised shamrock haven't returned back to wwe just for 1 night with all the old school specials they have had
@gregxashleigh
@gregxashleigh 2 ай бұрын
As the name of it states, the Ultimate. Alongside Harry and the Slashtones ECW theme, they don't come better
@michaelpapich2356
@michaelpapich2356 Жыл бұрын
A footnote on the John McCain and MMA connection: McCain's father-in-law at the time was one of Anheuser-Busch's largest wholesale distributors. Televised boxing's largest advertiser was Anheuser beer, and not only did McCain have the family connection but he personally owned millions of dollars in their stock. McCain was a big boxing supporter, both personally and legislatively with the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act. He had a personal stake in seeing MMA not compete with boxing in getting TV time.
@dr.snakes
@dr.snakes Жыл бұрын
A little bit ironic. Ali vs. Inoki _was_ MMA. John McCain wouldn't know that. He ain't no tape trader. He's not hanging out in chat rooms. In RSPW.
@ericthomas917
@ericthomas917 Жыл бұрын
And people think politicians owning stock is not a problem?
@kenrickkahn
@kenrickkahn Жыл бұрын
​@@ericthomas917 No Politician shouldn't own any stock unless they are private citizens.. They made Jimmy Carter sell his damn peanut farm so why it's hard to stop other Politicians from owning stocks?
@DiamondDust132
@DiamondDust132 Жыл бұрын
It is funny and also rather sad how the truth always goes back to money over decency. Thanks for the info. Fascinating to know.
@toptenguy1
@toptenguy1 Жыл бұрын
@@ericthomas917 I find it insane that it's even allowed.
@ClarenceJ251
@ClarenceJ251 Жыл бұрын
Ken Shamrock was so underutilized in WWF.
@SheriffOutlaw
@SheriffOutlaw Жыл бұрын
Very true. He is an interesting case of wasted potential
@harveymcelroy9332
@harveymcelroy9332 Жыл бұрын
No shit
@jayharv285
@jayharv285 Жыл бұрын
​@@SheriffOutlawI think he was just in the wrong era.
@kristopherbrown146
@kristopherbrown146 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted to see him in the ruthless aggression
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
Who played as him in 2k16 or no Mercy? Not to mention making UFC games Too.
@venomousnate7263
@venomousnate7263 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The reason Ken Shamrock was never a main event is because it was bad timing with Austin,Rock, Foley, Taker, and Kane. Had he still been around in 99 and he was more reliable, he probably would’ve gotten there.
@ssssssstssssssss
@ssssssstssssssss Жыл бұрын
No. It was perfect timing for him. He entered the WWF when they really needed main eventers. He just blew his opportunity.
@pushon10
@pushon10 Жыл бұрын
I agree he wasn't quite as captivating as Austin,Rock, Foley, Taker and Kane, but I'd take him over Triple H.
@Larry-dq4ig
@Larry-dq4ig Ай бұрын
You said “had he still been around in 99”… he wrestled most of 99 though.
@coltsmallwood7835
@coltsmallwood7835 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how it would work into other episodes, but I want the "Not Sharp But Dangerous Knzife" in more episodes
@Beavie
@Beavie Жыл бұрын
Ken was easily ahead of his time. Yeah, he wasn't the best on the microphone, but he was a genuine badass, he was solid in the ring. I think his career hit a ceiling due to booking and timing. But despite his flaws, he was still was able to accomplish a fair bit, winning two thirds of that triple crown. I imagine if he came in the Ruthless Aggression era and had a mouthpiece, he could have been a world champ, especially with the Brand split.
@tonyibraham5931
@tonyibraham5931 Жыл бұрын
Blackman vs Shamrock in a shoot bout would have been amazing. You hear more about Blackman being a badass than Shamrock within the wrestling interviews I've seen. I'm not sure if it is related to longevity (therefore more exposure), or if there was hest with Shamrock for whatever was going on that he seems to be omitted. I just know that would be an amazing fight.
@PhilasifyCreativity
@PhilasifyCreativity Жыл бұрын
He didnt need a mouthpiece...Goldberg didn't need one. He should've been WWE's Goldberg. The intensity is there, the legit background. He didn't need a bunch of catchphrases or anything.
@roccojamison89gooker51
@roccojamison89gooker51 Жыл бұрын
Ken Shamrock never got a 5-Star rating from Dave Meltzer. That limited Shamrock's career tremendously.
@PhilasifyCreativity
@PhilasifyCreativity Жыл бұрын
@@roccojamison89gooker51 it doesn't help that the attitude era he was wrestling the likes of Val Venis and Steve Blackman. He would've for sure had some highly rated matches had he stuck around for the influx of talent that came after he left in Benoit, Angle, Eddie, Booker T, RVD, Brock, etc.
@adamlennard1828
@adamlennard1828 Жыл бұрын
@@PhilasifyCreativityBlackman was a legit badass too so I don’t agree mentioning him. Other then that I agree imagine the matches he could of had with Benoit, Eddie, Malenko, RVD. Hell him vs William Regal would of been brutal.
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 Жыл бұрын
If Shamrock were in WWE today, he’d definitely be a world champion.
@Dzuno18
@Dzuno18 Жыл бұрын
As well as Ken would've gotten more IC title reigns, more tag team title reigns, and could've been U.S champion
@kokotheclown2588
@kokotheclown2588 Жыл бұрын
He’s last videogame appearance was in WWE13 the game that celebrated the attitude era and Ken was a huge factor of the era thx to his participation in the Corporation stable
@RGF91
@RGF91 Жыл бұрын
2K16 actually
@kokotheclown2588
@kokotheclown2588 Жыл бұрын
@@RGF91wait was he actually in 2k16 I didn’t know that thx for letting me know
@RGF91
@RGF91 Жыл бұрын
@@kokotheclown2588 no prob
@joshuamiller1111
@joshuamiller1111 10 ай бұрын
And now he's back in 2K24!
@KatoBloodsoul
@KatoBloodsoul Жыл бұрын
Today I learned one of my heros Brian Zane, has the same condition (Asperger's) like me! Bro from a fellow who's lived that life too, good on you for never stopping being yourself. Keep being amazing.
@Obscusion2
@Obscusion2 Жыл бұрын
That Backlash '99 match with Taker is, easily, one of the most divisive matches I've ever seen, from an online discourse perspective. There are some who (like Zane) consider it an absolute snorefest of a match, but there are others who see it more as being ahead of its time, as more mat-based, technical, & submission-focused matches would become more commonplace in WWE during the Ruthless Aggression Era. Personally, I do agree that it is a bit too slow for its own good, but I can definitely see what Shamrock & Taker were going for with it, and I do find enough enjoyment in it, but it absolutely had no place happening during the peak of the Attitude Era. Regardless, while Taz may have technically introduced tapping out in North America first via ECW, Ken Shamrock was the man who made it mainstream, making him (low-key) one of the most important wrestlers in the history of the business, in my opinion. Just think of how many amazing moments came from a simple tap out, and it all started with a man who loved going "DAAAAAA!!!!!".
@JM1993951
@JM1993951 Жыл бұрын
I loved it. The reversal into the armbar was cool as shit
@cannonbod581
@cannonbod581 Жыл бұрын
Great comment, all good points. I personally always liked this match, as I thought it did a good job of putting Ken over; as he was one of the only people I had ever seen make Taker actually shout out in pain, as for years he had always been practically silent. Even the fact that Taker needed help to beat him, seemed to elevate him as a threat... I just think his ship had already sailed by this point, and they never really capitalised on what they had. With the right mouthpiece to support him, he could have been a top contender. If he had his own Heyman equivalent, I could have easily seen him do a program with Austin. Maybe a sort of fight promotor/boxing manager type. Then the manager and Austin do the trash talking while Shamrock stays stoic and strong, getting the occasional "snapping" and beatdown on Austin... all culminating on a PPV win for Stone Cold, and finally getting his hands on the manager. For the rubber match, you could escalate the violence and build-up to a more no-holds-barred main event, and Austin, out of his depth, has to resort to hitting him with everything, including the kitchen sink. It's just occurred to me, that it could even have been Vince as the manager figure in this case. Just have Shamrock as Vince's top guy, and push him as the genuine threat he should have been. Might have been better than some of the iffy main events we had around then. For instance, instead of losing to Billy Gunn in the KOTR, he could have been against Austin, replacing the ladder match. I'm not sure why I've written all of this. This was the most I've thought about wrestling in years.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
Funfact:he made WrestleMania 2000 No mercy, and smackdown 2. Also wwe13 and 16. Also the UFC/MMA games. I'll be here all day if i go through All of em.😂
@a.grimes4202
@a.grimes4202 Жыл бұрын
( _Wonders if OP has considered a career as a diplomat... 🤔_ )
@Retrorevelations
@Retrorevelations Жыл бұрын
Is this actually a serious take? "Tapping out" had been a thing for decades in American pro wrestling. There were MANY notable pro wrestlers with submission finishers. Ric Flair, Roddy Piper, Greg Valentine, Bob Backlund. Sgt. Slaughter, Iron Sheik, Chris Benoit, and many, MANY more. Bret Hart alone was THE master of submission wrestling in the 90s, and is arguably the greatest technical wrestler of all time. Tazz nor Shamrock, as much as I like both, ABSOLUTELY did not "introduce slower, more technical matches" to North America. How can this even be a serious take? It's almost as if Bret Hart, or his many matches/feuds with HBK, Undertaker, Owen Hart, Diesel, Backlund, etc .etc., just didn't happen.
@PhilasifyCreativity
@PhilasifyCreativity Жыл бұрын
Ken Shamrock is one of my all-time favorite wrestlers. Glad to see him get a spotlight. He truly deserves a HOF induction just for being a pioneer of the MMA hybrid wrestlers that's the norm now, starting tapouts in WWE, and being a great part of the Attitude Era boom.
@capndayafterday
@capndayafterday Жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. Zane, you probably won’t catch this comment. But thanks for going over my favorite Attitude Era Star Ken Shamrock. He brought legitimacy to the WWF and helped so much in winning back the audience during the Monday Night Wars. He’s beginning to be recognized as one of the greats in WWF history, but was so often forgotten when the Attitude Era was discussed previously. I wish we could have gotten an ankle lock vs ankle lock fight between Angle and Shamrock at one point. When I briefly had a Twitter account I said the to Kurt Angle and he favorited my tweet. It was a feather in my cap, and just went to show how much Ken was respected by other wrestlers. Even if they never faced him in the ring.
@capndayafterday
@capndayafterday Жыл бұрын
Got props from Kurt Angle and Brian Zane. This is the beginning to an awesome weekend. Thanks Mr. Zane! You’re one of the best on KZbin!
@williamsansevere8743
@williamsansevere8743 Жыл бұрын
There was a sign on Raw one night that read, “Ken Shamrock stole my body.” It pops into my head every now and then and makes me chuckle.
@tvolution1
@tvolution1 Жыл бұрын
Ken's book is a fascinating read. They really could've done more with him if they just made him a silent destroyer. That Breakdown triple threat cage match showed how over The Rock was, but equally how indifferent the fans were towards Ken.
@ryansmith2617
@ryansmith2617 Жыл бұрын
Anyone can get over as a “silent destroyer”
@jamalwalker04
@jamalwalker04 Жыл бұрын
​@@ryansmith2617 silent destroyers never work easily at some point you have to lose then you become human
@closethockeyfan5284
@closethockeyfan5284 Жыл бұрын
​@@jamalwalker04But fans are more accepting of that in someone they've already come to like.
@fatalsniper3413
@fatalsniper3413 Жыл бұрын
It’s because Ken looked so goofy in his feud with The Rock earlier that year. He didn’t even win the IC title from him and so how can you be a badass if you can’t whip The Rock?
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 Жыл бұрын
@@jamalwalker04 his last impact run proved it could work when he was sami callihans gun for hire.
@green_eye_shy_guy
@green_eye_shy_guy Жыл бұрын
My bro and I were just talking a couple hours ago about when there was going to be a new career retrospective, thanks Brian💪
@blacktytrix
@blacktytrix Жыл бұрын
Ken is one of those guys where had he come in in 95 or 96 or later on in 2002 he wouldve been a force to be reckoned with. Despite not growing up in the attitude era and being young enough that i learned about it through the wwe 13 game, i loved ken immediately and have grown to appreciate his work a lot. Edit: loving the zane lore we are getting here. Really interesting to hear about why ken resonated so much with you
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
Funfact:he made 5 WWE games.
@danielderey5131
@danielderey5131 Жыл бұрын
I have ASD too! Was also diagnosed with Aspergers! So excited that one of my favorite KZbinrs and I are brothers on the spectrum 🧩
@JM1993951
@JM1993951 Жыл бұрын
As much as I wanted him to stay, by 1999 he was past giving a main event push. The time to push Shamrock was late 1997-mid 1998. By 1999 The Rock and Triple H were bigger stars, Mankind was in the world title picture. Big Show was there. Angle came in toward the end and got a mega push.
@mattiasgarbi9470
@mattiasgarbi9470 Жыл бұрын
If Shamrock hadn't that injury a match against Angle at the Series would have been cool, maybe a better sendoff.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention making like 5 WWE Games. And UFC too.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
They made him look a bit better in The UFC games and 2k16.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
He also made the fire pro wrestling games. And the japanese wrestling games Too.
@johnscilleto
@johnscilleto Жыл бұрын
Noticed you left out Stone Cold
@bigshambowski
@bigshambowski 11 ай бұрын
I'm neurodivergent too. Used to be Asperger's syndrome. Now it's called level 1 autism.
@WNRDB
@WNRDB Жыл бұрын
Bahahaha 20:14 ironically in the Summer of 1998 I did in fact meet Ken Shamrock at The Olive Garden however he was eating lunch with Droz. Super nice guys. Made a memory for me that will last a lifetime!
@wHw_Syxx
@wHw_Syxx Жыл бұрын
Man I remember going to bed upset watching Stephanie McMahon so scared (amazing acting on her part) with Undertaker's symbol on her forehead and then Austin being the one to save her. It was emotional for me as a kid and seeing that clip brought back those memories. On a side note, great episode Brian! I personally loved Shamrock in the UFC and WWE. He truly deserved better in professional wrestling and should of been better utilized. If Shamrock was in his pro wrestling prime today, imagine the stories we would have with this new merger. I remember Shamrock returning to TNA and looking like a jacked up Al Bundy haha but he still looks great for his age. Shamrock deserves his flowers when it comes to professional wrestling at the end of the day and hopefully that day will come sooner than later.
@Ibmyselfman
@Ibmyselfman Жыл бұрын
Brian, as a fellow Autistic, I think you nailed why Shamrock was my favorite Attitude Era star. I really identified with his intensity and rage, and the dude looked like a badass too. Cheers to neurodivergence being part of KZbin and wrestling. As always, great content 👊
@tellumyort
@tellumyort Жыл бұрын
I’m disappointed you did not put over the KOR match against Rock. They had a Japanese style match with Misawa spots, out of place for American wrestling at the time but a very underrated gem.
@MrGared22
@MrGared22 Жыл бұрын
6:08 Once again, your comedic timing is impeccable, Brian
@megamarsonic
@megamarsonic Жыл бұрын
“This is the era some of y’all wanna go back to?” *bursts in while wearing a South Park t-shirt* YES!!!
@AceAndThings
@AceAndThings Жыл бұрын
Shame that he's been buried by WWE history, he was one of the few people who seemed legit unhinged and dangerous. I was worried he was going to snap someone's ankle off when I was a kid. A huge pioneer for MMA/pro wrestling crossover and a memorable figure during the hottest time in the business. Yet you would never even know he existed now if you watched the last 20 years of WWE, even his finisher is now associated with someone else.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
To bad he only made no mercy and 2k16 also smackdown 2 and WWE 13. Also UFC games.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
He also had his sister in WWF too Ryan shamrock.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
John McCain is a golf guy.😂
@realtalunkarku
@realtalunkarku Жыл бұрын
Cringe
@TheIllustriouBlueJay
@TheIllustriouBlueJay Жыл бұрын
​@@nehemiahpouncey3607Wrestlemania 2000 as well.
@davisbowe8668
@davisbowe8668 Жыл бұрын
Always a shame we never got a Austin/Shamrock feud. The World's Most Dangerous Man vs. The Toughest S.O.B. seemed like a no-brainer, especially after Shamrock turned heel.
@fatalsniper3413
@fatalsniper3413 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think any top guy wanted to work with Ken because he was legit and people fear real bad asses. A midcarder would work a program with Ken because they had no choice
@MC-tl7oj
@MC-tl7oj Жыл бұрын
​@fatalsniper3413 uh so the rock taker mankind Bret hart and Shawny boy are midcarders?
@fatalsniper3413
@fatalsniper3413 Жыл бұрын
@@MC-tl7oj The Rock was a midcarder at the time, and none of the rest worked an actual program with Ken…. So my statement is correct
@fatalsniper3413
@fatalsniper3413 Жыл бұрын
@@MC-tl7oj a word of advice… it’s best to remain quiet when you don’t know what you’re talking about or show humility.
@cedricf3451
@cedricf3451 10 ай бұрын
Ken wrestler top stars the hell you smoking 🚬🚬🚬
@brendancroft6822
@brendancroft6822 Жыл бұрын
One of the best videos in a long while on the channel. Really enjoyed this one. Shamrock always a forgotten character but also a popular what-if
@mrcold8966
@mrcold8966 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was pretty impressive that he was only there for about two years but he was held in pretty high esteem. Remember back in 98, 99 and WWE needed to put a wrestler some sort of product, they always seemed used the same guys. Austin, Rock, Taker, Kane and Ken Shamrock. To be grouped in with them is pretty damn good
@funknelson87
@funknelson87 Жыл бұрын
Glad you made this. I watched wrestling a bit as a kid when Warrior and Hogan were on top but following Shamrock from UFC to wwe in the late nineties is what really got me into it. Still probably my all time favorite wrestler.
@Bozar069
@Bozar069 Жыл бұрын
I loved Shamrock when I was a kid as both a fighter and a wrestler. The fight he went on to have with Don Frye in Pride FC was legendary.
@ShinRyojin
@ShinRyojin Жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought that the Shamrock-Blackman rivalry was so underrated. Seeing two legit badasses with MA backgrounds feud was like watching an 80s/90s martial arts tournament movie a’la Bloodsport and Best of the Best.
@alexgordon9508
@alexgordon9508 Жыл бұрын
I feel like he should’ve stayed for the Ruthless Agression era, he could’ve improved a lot
@mrs6968
@mrs6968 Жыл бұрын
That butter knife skit was hilarious good work pal
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Жыл бұрын
😂
@byff2323
@byff2323 Жыл бұрын
For a year or two after he first left, I always thought in the back of my mind he’d come back eventually for another run, and a better push. But reliving this, and getting some background I didn’t know before, now I get it.
@jamalvargas6146
@jamalvargas6146 Жыл бұрын
Ken Shamrock Is One Of The Few MMA Legends I'm familiar with next to Royce Gracie and Randy Couture among others used to be a huge MMA mark From (2009-2020)
@cloudtyr
@cloudtyr Жыл бұрын
Ken Shamrock is one of my favorites, I still hope to see him come back one more time in WWE. At least long enough to get him in the 2k games. I loved 2k16 because he was in it as well as Dlo Brown and others we usually don't get in the games.
@ritangshubhattacharya1654
@ritangshubhattacharya1654 Жыл бұрын
Love these retrospective videos Brian, particularly of guys who aren’t very visible in WWE now such as Ken Shamrock and Lex Luger. A request for a future video Brian- I know that HulkaMAYnia has gone, but could you please look back at Hulk’s return to the WWE after the Invasion? I feel that it has largely gone under the radar, particularly his 2002-03 run
@Calculon1712
@Calculon1712 Жыл бұрын
Hes an unsung hero of the Attitude Era, one of my favourites i wished he stayed longer in the WWF and im exactly the same Brian as a fellow Aspie i get what you mean. JR has mentioned on his podcast they were close to firing Shamrock in 1998 due to missing flights and events, he enjoyed the night life too much. JR even mentioned he was supposed to be in the 2000 Royal Rumble but he was replaced by Bob Backlund instead and they were even close to resigning Shamrock in 2002 but he didnt like the offer he was given so he went to TNA instead. I hope he gets in the WWE HOF one day.
@MrChuckGrape
@MrChuckGrape Жыл бұрын
I was sitting behind the cameraman in the footage from of a 1999 Smackdown at 21:44. I won the tickets from a drawing I entered while waiting in line to get HBK's autograph.
@subhojitghosh6851
@subhojitghosh6851 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this long awaited video.. Shamrock was sheer talent, he was underutilised in the Wwf..
@mythicgamer6291
@mythicgamer6291 Жыл бұрын
That chair shot was crazy even other people was like what was you thinking Rocky
@PhilasifyCreativity
@PhilasifyCreativity Жыл бұрын
Should have also mentioned the memorable Strait Jacket match he had on Raw where he beat Jeff Jarrett and made him tap out using only his legs! The brief feud with Vince McMahon was fun too.
@Mastabuilda212
@Mastabuilda212 Жыл бұрын
The amount of ppl I tell that Shamrock was a pro wrestler first before a pro fighter blows my mind. In fact, for all the MMA fans that think wrestling is garbage, they wouldn't have a blueprint to make money without pro wrestling.
@GrownUpKid94
@GrownUpKid94 Жыл бұрын
After Brock lesnar, that list of mma fans who hate wrestling is basically nonexistent
@richardtheconquerer
@richardtheconquerer Жыл бұрын
@@GrownUpKid94 no it isn't
@austinbryant9115
@austinbryant9115 11 ай бұрын
He was a pro fighter for near a decade before wrestling, then quit wrestling and went back to mma....
@Mastabuilda212
@Mastabuilda212 11 ай бұрын
@@austinbryant9115 was he now? Where?
@austinbryant9115
@austinbryant9115 11 ай бұрын
@Stretch24-7 pride and ufc he was there when it began. He semi retired then went to wwf then went back for a few years to ufc. He was one of the inaugural champions in ufc. Then him and Dan Severn ended up going to wwf. Their ufc background was the only reason wwf got him. It was in the video.
@noeticjuggernaut73
@noeticjuggernaut73 Жыл бұрын
His was always my entrance in N64 games.
@dantorkel7561
@dantorkel7561 Жыл бұрын
Ken was one my late 90s favorites and his entrance theme was always my go to for CAWs in wrestling video games I wish he last just another year. Ken vs Benoit/Jericho/Malenko/Guerrero/Angle. Man. Just missed it
@Snaffdude
@Snaffdude Жыл бұрын
The knife gag popped me!
@LordSkullFreak
@LordSkullFreak Жыл бұрын
Wrestling With Wregret, let's get it, yeah!!!
@MrShawnrieux
@MrShawnrieux Жыл бұрын
It's crazy that the Solomonster told the story of Ken Shamrock and the Nasty Boys literally this past Sunday on the podcast. My favorite two wrestling guys to watch and listen too, Jason Solomonster and Brian Zane working together 😅
@PunksInVegas
@PunksInVegas Жыл бұрын
A different era, he's one of your biggest crossover talents. Just a silent badass and legit tough guy. Imagine him with a manager like Heyman.
@TheCheat420
@TheCheat420 Жыл бұрын
The edit after the "Young Daddy Ass" line made me laugh so hard. The knife bit was hilarious too.
@redbigun
@redbigun Жыл бұрын
And now the most heartbreaking Wrestling with Wregret video as we look at how, for the most part, WWF fumbled Ken Shamrock.
@MrKennyWilliams
@MrKennyWilliams Жыл бұрын
To be fair...he was just on a lineup that was too stacked. He simply was just lost in the shuffle.
@redbigun
@redbigun Жыл бұрын
​@@MrKennyWilliamsYeah, I guess that's the sad reality.
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 Жыл бұрын
​@@MrKennyWilliamsnah vince didn't like Ken shamrock vince wasted Shelton Benjamin too refusing Tomales him world champion for less talented guys
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention he made countless Games wrestling and MMA.
@redbigun
@redbigun Жыл бұрын
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 WWF War Zone was actually my introduction to Ken Shamrock.
@jeremyhaskins2730
@jeremyhaskins2730 Жыл бұрын
The knife knife edge joke is absolutely my favorite gag you've ever done, and I've been watching for 7 years lol
@horseclock6454
@horseclock6454 7 ай бұрын
The "Oh you can?.." really gave me a good laugh lol good video brother.
@richardpblaikie
@richardpblaikie 9 ай бұрын
I used to love Shamrock when I was younger watching WWF. Watching these videos back and others, it seems that even if he did win legitimately, was always screwed over one way or another with chair shots or backstabs! I'm a Spurs fan as well in football - it seems like Shamrock was the Spurs of the wrestling world! But we all know he was one of the best in reality.
@bigbananabossman
@bigbananabossman Жыл бұрын
That butter knife joke made me giggle🤣
@hessiankyojin
@hessiankyojin 10 ай бұрын
He added in the Submission rules in WWE. That's awesome.
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact Mr Hughes helped train Heath Slater, Apollo Crews, Moose and AR Fox
@AKking27
@AKking27 11 ай бұрын
Ken shamrock was my favorite back in the days
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 10 ай бұрын
Used him a lot on WWF Warzone
@nick-playercharacter8583
@nick-playercharacter8583 Жыл бұрын
As a fellow neurodivergent, that Donald Duck story hit surprisingly close to home. Also, that knife gag will probably be the funniest thing I see all week.
@mrterp04
@mrterp04 Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for the build between Knife & Pantsless Brian
@alexgeorge501
@alexgeorge501 Жыл бұрын
From the mighty circle of the Octagon to the 4-posted ring of shame, how the mighty such as shamrock have fallen has quickly as he rose in popularity
@rex788
@rex788 Жыл бұрын
I loved the time they had him in a straight jacket. And one time he busted it open. Lol. Then he took off running to the ring. I love Ken Shamrock.
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 Жыл бұрын
I always loved Ken Shamrock. He was one of my favorites during the Attitude Era. He definitely deserves a spot in the WWE HOF.
@TheGreatDevlin
@TheGreatDevlin Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if he stuck around for another six months for Kurt Angle and the Radicals to get there?
@Kamau1865
@Kamau1865 Жыл бұрын
This really is the golden age of Brian Zane. Great video. Great comedic pauses. Almost English levels of wit. As for Shamrock, I love the guy. And I don't think he fully gets the recognition he deserves in combat sports.i just wish his premier late era feud against Tito Ortiz in UFC came at a time he was younger, less shop-worn and more competitive. The build to that fight was as good as any. I also felt it never quite worked out for him in WWE, but I put this on WWE creative. If they can't make Shamrock a major star then something is seriously wrong. He had the look, the athleticism, the promo ability. He did quite well, but it should have been great.
@DarthHater100
@DarthHater100 Жыл бұрын
Super underrated wrestler who should have been a top star and long term legend. Watch Shamrock vs Rock at WM 14. Such a tight match. He was over big time and had the look, the ring skills, a marketable gimmick and name etc. Although he was lousy on the mic, in a different time, they would have protected him and focused away from that weakness. I remember the exact moment it all went downhill. He did a segment with HHH/DX where he screwed up his lines and rather than HHH doing his job as a heel (helping the face get over), he mocked Shamrock in an amusing way that did more to get HHH over as the face. Then they did the Corporation parody with DX, and it totally buried his entrance and mannerisms, further tanking his stock. Then they turned him heel and put him in the background with the Corporation and he fizzled out until leaving. But imagine in a different time/environment with different talent, he could have been a multi-time World Champion.
@schizzo8959
@schizzo8959 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I loved Ken Shamrock back in the day and even more so now.
@JoshOrtiz88
@JoshOrtiz88 Жыл бұрын
I recall them trying to turn Howard Finkel into Ralphus.
@GLJosh
@GLJosh Жыл бұрын
Jim Ross talks about the "issues" with Ken in one of his books. Vince saw potential in Shamrock, but a few backstage issues (missed dates) started to de-rail his push.
@Retrorevelations
@Retrorevelations Жыл бұрын
No, the fact that HHH and Co. didn't like him, is why he didn't get pushed.
@a.mirandahsr
@a.mirandahsr Жыл бұрын
Coming back here to say it seems Shamrock signed either a licensing deal or maybe even a legends deal (nothing confirmed as I post this though) which if so could actually lead to at least a HOF induction
@John-Stark
@John-Stark Жыл бұрын
And WWE Game Apperances
@jamesrodriguez967
@jamesrodriguez967 4 ай бұрын
Been watching your vids nearly a decade and never noticed your Asperger’s, no wonder they’re so good. Me too! :D
@ramiking745
@ramiking745 Жыл бұрын
I personally would love to see him in the WWE hall of fame. I was only a baby when Shamrock was in the WWF, but I was always fascinated by what I saw in archival footage over the years.
@CamDastardly
@CamDastardly Жыл бұрын
I was such a big shamrock fan! I got into UFC because I wanted more of him. I had to go rent UFC 8 on VHS when he left the WWF.
@docthemetalfreak
@docthemetalfreak Жыл бұрын
I am still amazed we can look at him being a former NWA champion
@chaseforliberty
@chaseforliberty Жыл бұрын
Nice. I love Shamrock from the Attitude Era!
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 Жыл бұрын
Great video! He was my main in Smack down 2 but I never watched him wrestle. Good to know so much about him. Coincidentally I was just thinking about him today and got a Community created version for 2k23
@Chris-ev5ok
@Chris-ev5ok Жыл бұрын
His entrance song is still the most badass ever!
@MontandDavis
@MontandDavis Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for you to do this for years. Shamrock was so underutilized
@skippythealien9627
@skippythealien9627 Жыл бұрын
Rock's feud with Shamrock was so over at one point. it's a bunch of b.s. that he isn't recognized more
@LewDog053
@LewDog053 Жыл бұрын
I'll always say the Rock snatching that club from Bossman is one of the coolest moments from 90's wrestling
@redhurricane24
@redhurricane24 Жыл бұрын
8:44 I just imagined it. And my mind blew just at the prospect. And both in their prime.
@Nat2025now
@Nat2025now Жыл бұрын
Ken was great, enjoyed revisiting his career. On a complete sidenote, it's amazing how Rock became one of the greatest of all time with the amount he actually lost! That would be a good video for you to analyse. Keep up the great work.
@arrownoir
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
He was the prototype, Kurt was the finished product.
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like he’s signed a legends deal
@megamarsonic
@megamarsonic Жыл бұрын
10:08 I think this feud was the basis for those British Bulldog & Ken Shamrock two-pack thumb wrestlers I got as a kid. Those were a lot of fun.
@j.b.gruberiiiesq6582
@j.b.gruberiiiesq6582 Жыл бұрын
The $64,000 question theme insert got me when Jerry asked Ken that question. Lol
@maxywaxyred
@maxywaxyred Жыл бұрын
I've been a fan of your channel for many many years and was a patreon member at one point before i cancelled due to financial reasons but now after revealing that you have asperger's as well like myself, I'm now more of a fan now. To see you have Asperger's and have a very successful career is an inspiration to myself. Hell I had angry outbursts as well when I was a kid because of it and still do at times but not as bad when I was younger. I even had one hell of an outburst when Goldberg beat KO at Fastlane 17.
@toptenguy1
@toptenguy1 Жыл бұрын
His match with the Undertaker was about 5 years ahead of its time. Crazy how the 1999 Attitude Era crowd chanted "Boring".
@obadiahvondeath8048
@obadiahvondeath8048 Жыл бұрын
i wish we could've had Ken vs Kurt ! UFC vs the Olympics! that would have been so reat!
@carloshill
@carloshill Жыл бұрын
I remember talking to Ken shamrock on his Facebook page and how much of a fan I was of his in the attitude era. Even told him that a stone cold ken shamrock ppv match should've happened. He agreed with me and pushed one to Vince and creative but they saw no money in it so they never did it. But he said they could've did big money with a ppv match. Nice guy too and he's always interacting with his fans just like Haku and Jim Duggan.
@killergrooves2438
@killergrooves2438 Жыл бұрын
I was a big fan of Shamrock and I was overjoyed to discover he was a hidden character in WWF No Mercy.
@corneliussmiff2773
@corneliussmiff2773 10 ай бұрын
Ken was my fav during the early Attitude Era.
@benespinosa6725
@benespinosa6725 Жыл бұрын
Ken Shamrock was great in WWE but he was underutilized awesome video Brian You're the best.
@ronarnold1507
@ronarnold1507 Жыл бұрын
Apparently Shane McMahon repeatedly tried to convince Vince to buy the UFC in the mid-to-late 90s. Prichard, Brisco, and Cornette have all attested to it. Who even knows how well the UFC would have done, given that?
@princealigorna7468
@princealigorna7468 Жыл бұрын
Ken's theme is still one of the best.
@therhapsodist976
@therhapsodist976 Жыл бұрын
I would've loved to see Ken Shamrock become WWF Champion. He was a legitimate tough guy who could've dominated the main event scene for at least a six-month run.
@kdogg625
@kdogg625 Жыл бұрын
I always loved shamrock and that banger theme of his helped my love for him. Wish he had done more. Wish he could get a wwe HOF nod
@MyMegaMango
@MyMegaMango Жыл бұрын
The visual of 3 large wrestlers working in a tiny wood paneled basement with a tarp over the tile floor is hilarious
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