Get Perfect Inside Corners the Easy Way (No Coping!!!)

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@kyles3698
@kyles3698 Жыл бұрын
I have found that this makes projects go much faster. After 7 or 8 corners the sugar rush from eating so many popsicles helps me whip out the rest of the project in no time!!
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@jerrynelson998
@jerrynelson998 Жыл бұрын
I use no sugar added pop cycle sticks
@michaeldepow6663
@michaeldepow6663 11 ай бұрын
I'll stick with the coke
@sharit7970
@sharit7970 9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@genewilliams617
@genewilliams617 8 ай бұрын
HAHAHA....
@jeffwangerin8089
@jeffwangerin8089 10 ай бұрын
A guy showed me a trick years ago. It works much better than shims or popsicle sticks. Put a drywall (or any) screw in the bottom corner of the wall, you can adjust the depth to control how far the boards sticks out. 👍
@thomasflynn8712
@thomasflynn8712 7 ай бұрын
That’s a great tip thanks
@ericneiman5556
@ericneiman5556 7 ай бұрын
Works great
@ChaseThePinballWizard
@ChaseThePinballWizard 6 ай бұрын
dude awesome tip thanks.
@BrianB-dz5db
@BrianB-dz5db 5 ай бұрын
That's a great tip!
@honestjohn6222
@honestjohn6222 3 ай бұрын
Great tip , but is that both sides , Cheers
@InternationalCPRInstitute-g6m
@InternationalCPRInstitute-g6m Жыл бұрын
I see all the professionals jumping all over this but read the title. This is for DIYers and beginners, not professionals. If we want it professionals to do it, we hire them but if you're doing it yourself, this is a great hack.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's useful for professionals, too. But yes, it's created for DIYers.
@KenHill
@KenHill Жыл бұрын
When inserting the popsicle stick from the top down, don't force it all the way down till it bottoms out. Pull it back up a little bit, snap it off, and then push it down behind the baseboard so that it is hidden when you caulk the top to the wall.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty easy to cut if flush using a razor knife without that step, but that works too.
@KenHill
@KenHill Жыл бұрын
@@StayHandy pushing it down a bit assures that there will be no interruption as you are laying down a bead of caulk. Thanks for your comments and videos!
@tomalophicon
@tomalophicon Жыл бұрын
​@@KenHill good tip
@michaeljuers574
@michaeljuers574 Жыл бұрын
We use a drywall screw in the bottom plate to compensate for the drywall bevel. It’s quick and adjustable!
@nathancollins5822
@nathancollins5822 Жыл бұрын
Say more, pls
@ottokriete1153
@ottokriete1153 Жыл бұрын
@@nathancollins5822 That's a much better solution........... you can eliminate the gap that the OP has on his first example... well, done, MJ!
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Interesting, but sounds time consuming.
@evictioncarpentry2628
@evictioncarpentry2628 Жыл бұрын
​@@StayHandy Its way faster and you still had a gap on your first example lol
@pierredery9637
@pierredery9637 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I do, it gives a lot more adjustability and precision, no need for caulking in the corners.
@bobbycrider199
@bobbycrider199 Жыл бұрын
I trimmed houses For a living. When running base board in a new house, you use 3/8" shims to hold the baseboard up high enough for the floor covering. There is no time to try sticking shims here or there to make the joints fit. I could have a corner cope, and ready for my laborer to nail it. The outside corners were mitered, glued, and nailed. The painters were always glad, knowing I was the one that did the work.
@BOSSwky
@BOSSwky 3 ай бұрын
I’m a painter and I thank you on behalf of other painters
@douglasskaalrud6865
@douglasskaalrud6865 14 күн бұрын
Good for you.
@DWilliams-sf5th
@DWilliams-sf5th 5 күн бұрын
100%. I think this video though is for the diy'r, not Tradesmen doing production. If I'm doing my house, I want perfect miters, not copes. But thats me.
@rogernelson9029
@rogernelson9029 18 сағат бұрын
​@DWilliams-sf5th Coping is not a cheat for "cutting corners," it is a tried & true technique accepted by craftsmen in the building trade.
@wooddoug1
@wooddoug1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent tip. I've used several materials to shim the bottom in my 45 year career. I eventually settled on corrugated cardboard. It self adjusts through compression. I also cut my trim 1/16th long, not short. When bowed in this immense pressure compresses the cardboard and may slightly bed the end of the base into that built up mud.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks for the tip.
@cwally1994
@cwally1994 Жыл бұрын
Cope inside corners. Use drywall screws to build out the bottom of the baseboard if needed. Done!
@douglasskaalrud6865
@douglasskaalrud6865 14 күн бұрын
You mean Done after several tries that you've ended up screwing up. The guy is right: coping is a skill that most people don't have and never will.
@j.n.572
@j.n.572 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, this tip helps get tight joints in coped baseboards also. Even easier and cheaper, use drive a drywall screw into the wall about 1/2 inch from the floor and use a square to adjust the screw so the head is flush with the drywall above it. Its a "trick" thats been around for years. You cope baseboards to account for strange angles in corners. Drywall mud in corners often builds up and results in a wall that is slightly curved in the corners. Its difficult, time consuming, and often material intensive to get inside corners right when mitering, especially when using thinner baseboard material that flexes easily. This tip can help with that to an extent. Coping allows for greater flexibilty in that you get 5 or so degrees (depending on the profile) of play where you still get tight joints. Coping gives superior results, limits recuts (often saving time in the long run), and avoids material waste. However, not all profiles can be coped, so learning to miter trim is still important to learn.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@nathanv6798
@nathanv6798 Жыл бұрын
is there a YT video that shows this?
@j.n.572
@j.n.572 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanv6798 the screw trick or how to cope baseboards?
@whatismauramaking
@whatismauramaking Жыл бұрын
HA! Today I decided to do baseboards for THE 1st TIME EVER 😅 oh no pressure I’ve watched THOUSANDS of KZbin videos about how to do it and don’t cut too short or sneak up on the cut. Well luckily I started on a small closet 😅 4 hours in I just FINALLY finished the little closet 😂😂… finished as in cut the pieces but they are not nailed in as yet. So glad I found this video because I’m having a lot of rocking, because the walls are uneven 🤦🏽‍♀️ THANKS FOR THIS TIP I’m off to dollar tree now 😅
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Hang in there!
@mos8541
@mos8541 Жыл бұрын
So.. in summary.. you re .. Out of the closet now?.. LOL damn I'm funny
@whatismauramaking
@whatismauramaking Жыл бұрын
@@mos8541 you got it! 😅
@yeeaahBUDDY
@yeeaahBUDDY Жыл бұрын
I actually used these same paint stirring sticks to shim out the bottom of my baseboard last year, on all of the baseboard, not just the corners, due to the paint buildup on the walls. You just drop it against the wall at the floor, place your baseboard and nail it on. Much cheaper and quicker than using screws. I went back and forth on coping versus mitering the inside corners and finally found a way to get my coped corners looking decent. So many commenters here saying cOpInG iS EaSiEr AnD fAsTeR, but I call BS. Maybe if you've done it on dozens of projects and had the practice to get it down, but for a new DIYer, getting the coping right is not easy at first. I ended up gluing a piece of sandpaper onto a small scrap piece of baseboard and using that to sand down the last little bit of excess in the cope. To get the cope right I had to use 4 steps. It was 1. miter saw 2. coping saw 3. dremel tool with small sanding drum and/or 4. sanding block Pretty time consuming. It was my first baseboard project, but in the end it looks great so I'll take it.
@BOSSwky
@BOSSwky 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on your diy! Feels good to complete a job and have it look nice
@XxStratAttackxX
@XxStratAttackxX Жыл бұрын
As a veteran carpenter I reject this. Coping will always be better and you made all my points for me pretty much. The pressure fit of a coped joint keeps it closed tight as well. And it is faster than this shimming method. I have no adjustments to make, I can simply spring my piece into place and nail it off. Doesn't take me more than a minute tops to cope a piece of base depending on how long it is using a normal Coping saw.
@oldbootneck
@oldbootneck Жыл бұрын
I'm not a capenter nor professional woodworker and I would agree with you, learn to cope; it's much more effective and quite satisfying once you get it right.
@Radioman7600
@Radioman7600 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Coping the only way for a professional job.
@garycarpenter2932
@garycarpenter2932 Жыл бұрын
you betcha. retired now. you know you're good at coping when you have two 16' runs to a 14' wall, 16' baseboard and want no seams. then you cope both sides of the 14' wall. snap it into place and perfect. you really know you're good when you do this with crown moulding too. that takes confidence and experience, but can be done. i know.
@XxStratAttackxX
@XxStratAttackxX 11 ай бұрын
@@johnfischer_2 I've tried both. I still go for my coping saw. Just as fast, no dust getting thrown around the room. Only time I reach for the grinder is crown when it can be tough to make a big enough back cut.
@ironpirate8
@ironpirate8 11 ай бұрын
I don't think this video is meant for professional carpenters
@carpenterabc
@carpenterabc Жыл бұрын
When I install hardwood base boards for staining, you can't caulk your errors, so I usually do compound miter cuts with some test pieces before I do use the actual piece. Although, I will do coping sometimes. The shim behind the piece is my last resort, if I still see an opening. I always cut the piece a 1/32-1/16 longer to make sure I get tight corners.
@NathanBrantley
@NathanBrantley Ай бұрын
Interestingly, every part of every point you mentioned is the exact opposite of this video. Did you watch the video? His intro right away says this isn't for staining baseboards...
@bobbycrider199
@bobbycrider199 Жыл бұрын
Sorry about my earlier comment. I was taught to make a homemade miter box. We cut with a handsaw, and we drove our nails with a hammer. My grandfather would have back-slapped me if I would have mitered an inside corner. I was even taught how to cope 45 degre and similar angled corners. I feel like it was an advantage to first learn the old way.
@Zupdood2
@Zupdood2 Жыл бұрын
Once you learn to cope with the assistance of your miter box, it really goes quickly… and you’re not depending on caulk to hide your gaps, like I think we’re seeing here.
@larrybuckner8619
@larrybuckner8619 Жыл бұрын
Yeah man . Exactly what I was thinking. I cope all my baseboard and do most of it with the miter saw.Takes less than 30 seconds . everything I seen had already been painted and caulked.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Caulking is what gives it the finished look at the top and the joints.
@larrybuckner8619
@larrybuckner8619 Жыл бұрын
@@StayHandy yes I know
@edthompson9337
@edthompson9337 Жыл бұрын
​@@StayHandy No caulk is required on the joint if fitted correctly, leave it to the professionals rather than using the bodgers method.
@joedean9834
@joedean9834 Жыл бұрын
Used to carry a white paint marker or brown crayon. Cut, paint the edge and install. No caulk needed
@stevemiller6177
@stevemiller6177 Жыл бұрын
I prefer coping but, on times that I have mitered I have used two roofing nails side by side with heads overlapping near the base of the board. Put the baseboard in place and just tap with a wooden block to fit. Works better than using a screw where you have to remove the board to make adjustments.
@JessicaT-qp9uv
@JessicaT-qp9uv 3 ай бұрын
Posting on youtube is an excellent metaphor for the maxim "no good deed goes unpunished".😊
@ronhoffman2405
@ronhoffman2405 Жыл бұрын
I found that if you cut the baseboard about a sixteenth over the needed length, then ben d the baseboard in the center and wedge it in by nailing it tin the center the joints always astay tight even for stain grade trim. The popsicle trick is useful for un plumb vertical walls or curved floors.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@ST-0311
@ST-0311 Жыл бұрын
I agree. That hair extra compresses those corners tightly.
@erict3728
@erict3728 Жыл бұрын
When mitering corners; Hair over for outside to outside. Hair under for inside to inside. Precise number for outside to inside and vice versa....
@michaellambert5223
@michaellambert5223 4 күн бұрын
I’ve done this for ages. Tho I never went and bought popsicle sticks. Cardboard, roofing black paper folded a time or three, even just a flat bar under the drywall to mash it outward a little works👍👍 I do like another guys suggestion putting a screw behind and being able to adjust.
@JohnJoseph999
@JohnJoseph999 2 ай бұрын
I usually cut the inside corner baseboards larger than needed and bow them in the middle when installing. It will tend to push the drywall as needed to get a snug fit.
@levelseven9841
@levelseven9841 Жыл бұрын
Coping is far superior. Only have to cope the top profile, flat part can be cut with the saw. If you're putting popsicle sticks in from the top, then it's too short. Only time you wanna shim the top of baseboard, is if the wall is bowed in and out
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight.
@thekinarbo
@thekinarbo Жыл бұрын
Yes, I take my measurements on the wall at the top of the base, if 4" base I measure 4" above the floor, then shim or plane the back of base as needed. I like the top of base to fit as tight to the walls as possible.
@garyenglish8225
@garyenglish8225 Жыл бұрын
This is just bad information it takes all of a minute to cope a corner
@CroSensate79
@CroSensate79 11 ай бұрын
I’m gonna try coping my baseboards next weekend. Does it matter which corner is coped?
@levelseven9841
@levelseven9841 11 ай бұрын
@@CroSensate79 No You might find it easier to cope the left side of the board vs the right side. Vice versa. Sometimes there's one thats coped on both sides. You can do it 💪
@Longtack55
@Longtack55 7 ай бұрын
I was a labourer installing dog-eared (coped) skirting (base boards.) They are superior as there is no gap - none, and no amateurish caulking to mask the error.
@rfmsr2
@rfmsr2 Жыл бұрын
Coping IS the easiest way to do inside corners. Any other way is a waste of time and money. Just learn to cop and do it right.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@artguti1551
@artguti1551 3 ай бұрын
It Doesn't look like the video wasted any time, nor any money!
@waterbug1135
@waterbug1135 11 ай бұрын
1:23 "Just don't cut them too short." Hahahaha...solid advice right there.
@mikeboz651
@mikeboz651 Жыл бұрын
Wood does not expand in the direction of the wood grain. It expands across the wood grain. So wooden boards or baseboards in this case would not grow or shrink in length. However, they may expand slightly in thickness or height. Otherwise great tip with the stir sticks. Shims are not cheap!
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Everything expands in all directions with heat.
@mikeboz651
@mikeboz651 Жыл бұрын
@@StayHandy fluctuations in ambient humidity levels would be the cause of the wood expansion and contraction you are referring to.
@georgebush6002
@georgebush6002 Жыл бұрын
Despite no significant changes of length, as the wood thickness changes the slope of the miter cut effectively changes (i.e. thickness/length) so it no longer forms a proper joint. The wood is the wrong length for its new location.
@tecc8380
@tecc8380 Жыл бұрын
Wood expands .1% with grain and between 6-8% cross grain. I have always used extra cardboard from material, foldable for size and compresses if needs be. Never had a call back.
@roomwithaview4195
@roomwithaview4195 Жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken your title said, Handyman. Take it from a seasoned Professional Mr. Handyman, please don't go giving BAD Advice on how to cut and install inside corners using baseboard, crown molding, or any other type of trim materials. 1st, in most homes the sheetrock wall dosen't go all the way down to the floor, leaving a 1/2" gap between the bottom of the sheetrock and the floor. For the best results rip a bunch of 1/2"x1/2" stock and place short pieces at various locations in this gap. Especially in the inside corners. Then cut and COPE your baseboard. The purpose of the 1/2"x1/2" stock is to prevent the baseboard from folding in while the Carpet layers knee kick the carpet while it's being stretched. Oh, by the way, it doesn't matter what you are installing. Whether it's Baseboard, Crown molding, or Chair Railings. Whether it's paint or stain grade, Coping your inside corners is always better. Another thing for you Handymen to understand, wood of any type, whether it's natural or man made definitely will expand and contract. It's just the way it is, so take that into account as well.
@justinmcgrath753
@justinmcgrath753 6 ай бұрын
I had installed base board a few times but never coped them. I did coping on my last project, and it was really easy. Anyone can do it. Look up a video for some good tips. You should still use something behind the board in the corners because that's usually where the dry wall taper is, so there's a gap. I use a roofing nail, which unlike a popcicle stick has whatever depth you want, and is way cheaper.
@davidt8438
@davidt8438 9 ай бұрын
It’s not so much about getting a perfect joint. It’s about getting a perfect joint that stays perfect over time when humidity changes cause the joint to shrink and swell. Remember the 2x4 studs are usually wood and they to will swell and shrink. Coping the joint (especially on a simple baseboard shown) takes the same or less time than your method of popsicle sticks and the joint will look good over time. It’s not a waste of time and it makes you a craftsman.
@stephentresca3536
@stephentresca3536 11 ай бұрын
A cope joint will not open up when the molding dries out in a year. A perfect caulked painted inside corner. Good video for the home DIY.
@msm624
@msm624 Жыл бұрын
Uhg these videos grind my gears
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Why? I’m so surprised by all of the “pros” insisting on doing things the hard way and getting mad because other people don’t. These are baseboards, and this is a valid method that saves time and improves quality so people can move on to more important things in life.
@iFixJunk
@iFixJunk Жыл бұрын
​@@StayHandy No, it isn't about it being "too easy"; it's about that finished product. That caulk doesn't look good. I wouldn't do this or pay anyone else to do it.
@hmtrimworks7148
@hmtrimworks7148 Жыл бұрын
I usually install taller baseboards… So I cut a piece of baseboard the width of my torpedo level and tape it to the edge of the level… Then put a screw in the corner using the taped trim to the level to get it plumb… A bit tedious, but these are high end houses… -Also use a pin nailer on all outside corners and scarf joints
@tonyelliott5045
@tonyelliott5045 2 ай бұрын
hey hey! glad to see you still make content. i watched your yard transformation videos with the retaining wall, and completed my yard project two years ago. i was looking for a video about how to build a T intersection with moulding to get great results (e.g. building a latice on the ceiling), do you have a view for tips on that?
@TInyK12
@TInyK12 Жыл бұрын
Phew you’re getting a lot of heat! But I appreciate this video. I will replace my own baseboards and this will save me time!
@leedchristensen
@leedchristensen 6 ай бұрын
Use fine thread drywall screws into the bottom plate behind the trim. It’s adjustable! Necessary when you hang drywall horizontal to deal with the taper at the bottom unless you have really tall base trim.
@TaylorMadeDIY
@TaylorMadeDIY 11 ай бұрын
One thing I'd say, is keep the shim out of any expansion joints for flooring! Especially those engineered laminated click together type. I've used cardboard, screws, shims, scrap wood, whatever is available. I'll start stocking some popsicle sticks as they seem to be really good for caulk tools as well with silcone.
@williamp9158
@williamp9158 11 ай бұрын
You can use an angle finder to get the right angle and then glue the pieces together with AC glue/activator. It'll stay super tight with no gaps but it's probably just as time consuming as coping.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy 11 ай бұрын
thanks for the tip
@kpsingh3405
@kpsingh3405 10 ай бұрын
I’m DYI this good idea, will save me $ and time. Thx a lot
@tonyv1505
@tonyv1505 10 ай бұрын
It's good to know both this and coping
@mgtow-balance3409
@mgtow-balance3409 11 ай бұрын
very simple, but very solid info. (and very economical too!)
@David-qf9gp
@David-qf9gp Жыл бұрын
Nice trick, we know it is all about the tricks of the trade! Thanks
@abdulmuizmiah367
@abdulmuizmiah367 Ай бұрын
Excellent tip thanks
@markoshun
@markoshun Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the popsicle sticks. I typically use shims as they are adjustable and I always have them around, but the pop cycle sticks make total sense. Also will try the screws, sounds promising.
@haroldped
@haroldped 11 ай бұрын
I use cardboard drywall shims. They can also push out the bottom on longer runs where the baseboard doesn't quite cover the finished floor
@tntpfs
@tntpfs 11 ай бұрын
I switched to coping, and no looking back. With a mitre, every mitre joint is visible from the center of the room. When properly patterned, a coped joint stays hidden, even with shrinkage. I start from the wall directly across from the door, as you enter the room, with a square cut corner. Then i cope the pieces that meet that corner, but leave the other end square (unless i have to scarf two lengths together). I then cope the closer pieces to the sides. Also. Dont cope at 90°. Do it say 93°, and it will hide the drywall tape flare, compensating for corners not square. Considering im only coping one end of the baseboard length, if offset the time the coping takes, with far better results, regardless of the material.
@spocksvulcanbrain
@spocksvulcanbrain Жыл бұрын
Great tip! Thanks. Who would have thought????
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@garychandler4296
@garychandler4296 11 ай бұрын
I like the old addage, "caulk hides all sins"! 😂 Coping is faster if you invert the board and use the mitersaw to cut the straight, leaving only the top bevel to cut with the coping saw!
@steveniemyer9288
@steveniemyer9288 11 ай бұрын
Perfect video example of cut to fit, caulk to fill, paint to hide 😂
@toddoskin
@toddoskin Жыл бұрын
Ive done a similar thing with flat stock baseboards...or sanitary base... Essentially no profile on them... I either use a screw in the wall to adjust if the gap is too big to caulk or use cardboard (drywall shims)/wood shims to tweak as neccesary if its close. If they get painted (and caulked), you cant really tell.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@cjanowsk
@cjanowsk 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great tip!
@jochanan2137
@jochanan2137 Жыл бұрын
I use a drywall screw at the bottom of the molding then nail in the board. screw it in or out as needed for a plumb fit.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Sounds time consuming
@evictioncarpentry2628
@evictioncarpentry2628 Жыл бұрын
​​@@StayHandy You literally have no idea what you're doing if you think that's time consuming to use one adjustable screw versus mess around with popsicle sticks.
@shabaotb
@shabaotb Жыл бұрын
that leaves a big hole tho in the baseboard
@thekinarbo
@thekinarbo Жыл бұрын
@@evictioncarpentry2628 I tape handi-shims to the back of the base then the construction adhesive holds them in place long term.
@gillgetter3004
@gillgetter3004 11 ай бұрын
I was trained to cope, but have used similar tactic👍
@danmc3369
@danmc3369 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant -- thank you for sharing your skills!
@SJmystic
@SJmystic Жыл бұрын
Great tip! The size of what you used means they are tongue depressors. Popsicle sticks are not as wide (about half as wide as what you showed), they are typically less rigid, and they are thicker than tongue depressors. It may even be that there are times for the use of both to get the best fit . . .
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@rebeccaredletter
@rebeccaredletter Жыл бұрын
Hey, Mr. Handyman Startup - you must be a healthy - those are tongue depressors! 😆 Kind of big so they were probably purchased at a craft store. I get it! My house has NO corners that are square, no walls that are smooth nor 90° to the next so this skill will save me much time and many headeaches. 🙌🏻
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Yeah but popsicle stick trick sounds better.
@PaulCloves
@PaulCloves 10 ай бұрын
Timber expands and contracts across the grain due to moisture content not down it and coping definitely helps with cancelling out that problem and with the problem of internal corners not being plumb and square which u rightly pointed out they very rarely r in my experience it’s far quicker and neater to cope internal mitres
@titusdaniel
@titusdaniel 11 ай бұрын
Nothing tells me as much about a person's level of skill and experience more than listening to how much they gripe about coping. It's really not difficult or time consuming, especially if it's paint-grade.
@bulkmailbullseye70
@bulkmailbullseye70 Жыл бұрын
great vid. I purposefully undercut the miter angle so i can eat and tax deduct ice cream bars for their thicker sticks.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Diabetes here you come!
@glennirwin4710
@glennirwin4710 Жыл бұрын
Great idea.
@JohnDoe-fu6zt
@JohnDoe-fu6zt 8 ай бұрын
If you're going to miter your corners, you really should glue them too. Miters can work well if they're properly shimmed and glued, but your measurements are much more critical and when they do shrink, the gap will point right at the middle of the room. With a little practice, coping is much faster, gives better results, and is more forgiving of slight errors in measurement. If you cut your piece long and bow it into place, the cope will be forced into the other piece and be airtight. If the piece shrinks a couple years later and a gap does open, it will only be visible when the observer looks along the wall with their head close to the wall. Miter gaps are very visible from the middle of the room. Common baseboard profiles are very simple, and are ridiculously easy to cope in a matter of seconds.
@PureAeternum
@PureAeternum Жыл бұрын
I've been doing this but with shims, except I only put them on the very bottom. Thanks for the idea to use popsicle sticks, will be buying them from now on.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
I used shims for a while too. This is way easier. You’ll enjoy it.
@PureAeternum
@PureAeternum Жыл бұрын
@@StayHandy there is another video I saw where a guy uses screws. I haven't had a chance yet to try either one yet but an idea came to mind, to use a closed combination square, that way you can lay it on the floor and guage exactly how much you have to add to the wall
@Robc509
@Robc509 11 ай бұрын
I believe the coped method is better long term. The wood hardly changes in the length but in the width it will which will open up the front of the miter.
@williamevans2101
@williamevans2101 Жыл бұрын
I’m a carpenter and I’m saying you don’t want to do that. Scribing/coping will always be the best way to do corners. It’s also better for older houses as the walls could be out of square.
@edthompson9337
@edthompson9337 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's so much easier to do it the right way than the bodgers method this Texan is using!😂
@johnwidell8092
@johnwidell8092 Жыл бұрын
Ditto ! Do it right the first time. Carpenters and handymen like this own stock with journeyman in a tube, caulk. It does not take any longer to do it right.
@CarlYota
@CarlYota Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that this video is targeting DIYers who don’t want to take the time to learn these things to a competent degree. They don’t think trim matters and just want to move on to “more important projects in the house.”
@edthompson9337
@edthompson9337 Жыл бұрын
@@CarlYota It's teaching people bad habits, using the correct method is easier than doing internal mitres and the end result is far superior.
@BryanL1982
@BryanL1982 Жыл бұрын
Nah miter gauge is better than a Coped corner.
@6XXBANSHEEXX8
@6XXBANSHEEXX8 Жыл бұрын
As you can see, lots of caulk was used. Simple adjustments on your miter saw can take care of the gaps rather than using popsicle sticks and caulk.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
But why do it the hard way? This takes seconds.
@6XXBANSHEEXX8
@6XXBANSHEEXX8 Жыл бұрын
@@StayHandy Making an adjustment on my miter box isn't 'the hard way', not to me anyway.
@asmc4494
@asmc4494 2 ай бұрын
An old Craftsman once told me when I was a young finisher. That "Caulk and paint will hide what you ain't" Coping is a skill and like any skill when you master it it comes naturally with zero effect. There's a big difference between being a craftsman and a trim runner. Craftsman make more $$$$$$
@martynmattison4457
@martynmattison4457 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip Dan and perfect timing, I have a baseboard job next week 👌😎
@StayHandy
@StayHandy 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes!
@Esiddik
@Esiddik Жыл бұрын
This is a great tip for PVC baseboards because I have yet to learn how to cope them 😪
@gideonkroll5573
@gideonkroll5573 Жыл бұрын
I really don’t like using shims for baseboard. This is super handy. Thank you SO MUCH. I can see the drywall screws working more precisely but holy cats that’d take a lot of time to get it just right
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Yes this is way easier
@hunterge
@hunterge 3 ай бұрын
thats really a good idea
@VuHung-p2t
@VuHung-p2t 2 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤❤
@mojoman7141
@mojoman7141 10 ай бұрын
Buy 100 Popsicle sticks, get a free caulking gun.
@davef.2329
@davef.2329 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks, Dan.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@rumblefishlabs6523
@rumblefishlabs6523 Жыл бұрын
I sometimes put a screw into the bottom plate and adjust in/out as needed.
@notimportant3686
@notimportant3686 Жыл бұрын
the baseboard job in this video, can you please tell me specifically which caulk you used?... thank you
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Acrylic Latex Caulk Plus Silicone.
@notimportant3686
@notimportant3686 Жыл бұрын
@@StayHandy ALEX?... i love using it, i hate the result, it cracks so frequently or separates...
@jovosedlar3395
@jovosedlar3395 11 ай бұрын
Thank you brother
@jm4270
@jm4270 2 ай бұрын
Excellent
@davidsisk1768
@davidsisk1768 Ай бұрын
Also you can buy a flat bar from Menards for under 8 bucks use that instead of popsicle sticks and fire nail after you pull the base to the cope at the bottom
@LarryB-inFL
@LarryB-inFL Жыл бұрын
Coping is fast and easy with MDF or plastic baseboards if you use an angle grinder with a sandpaper flap wheel instead of a coping saw. With little practice, you can cope it in a minute or so.
@BryanBarcelo
@BryanBarcelo Жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@jeffthewhiff
@jeffthewhiff Жыл бұрын
This is a great idea!👍
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johnmoran4469
@johnmoran4469 Жыл бұрын
Coping is faster and cleaner if you do it right. My opinion. Done my fair share of both.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Even with mdf?
@donalddakota8069
@donalddakota8069 9 ай бұрын
Coping is also very easy and fast. You want the base to be a touch long and spring it into place, keeps things tight.
@buzzpatch2294
@buzzpatch2294 Жыл бұрын
neat trick- thx
@franciscocruzjr5721
@franciscocruzjr5721 Жыл бұрын
I use a speed square and screws. This seems faster. Thanks.
@thedude33333
@thedude33333 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. This is exactly what I was looking for. Great video. Thanks, dude.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@InHisImage1161
@InHisImage1161 11 ай бұрын
You can cope colonial base on a table saw with ease. Just cope the shortest pieces and leave the the square ends on the long ones. It cuts down on using the coping saw. I couldn't bring myself to put popsicle sticks behind my work.
@easypainterslondon
@easypainterslondon Жыл бұрын
good vid cool info
@englewood1957
@englewood1957 Жыл бұрын
Professionals cope, Amateurs miter. Period!
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Sweet
@michaelmancini5773
@michaelmancini5773 Жыл бұрын
Been doing this for years, you can also use playing cards to set the thickness
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Nice
@WillThat
@WillThat 11 ай бұрын
I guess I just get coping. I can knock a corner out pretty quickly with the chop saw and a flap disc. I'm wondering if I can use this trick to fix already in place base boards though.
@Steve-hj6xv
@Steve-hj6xv Жыл бұрын
I'm a carpenter, and I'm saying coping is for primadonnas, especially when you're trimming a basic suburban home with vinyl flooring. Mitering, in this case will stand the test of time Save your Collins Coping Foot for your crown
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
So glad to hear that all finish carpenters aren’t wasting their time!
@samTollefson
@samTollefson Жыл бұрын
I never had any problem coping base, crown, or any other molding ~~~
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Even mdf?
@samTollefson
@samTollefson Жыл бұрын
@@StayHandy Don't know, mdf trim didn't exist when I was active in the trades.
@dougb8207
@dougb8207 Жыл бұрын
I've been doing compound miters to compensate; this will be much easier and faster! Thank you.
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Yessir!
@thekinarbo
@thekinarbo Жыл бұрын
Wow! I've worked with many top level finish carpenters over the years, and I consider myself highly skilled at installing base. I've never seen any of them do compound miters for base.
@amerlin388
@amerlin388 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't want to create a gap along the top using a stick as a shim; I guess this means you would caulk. While at the craft store maybe pick up some craft rubber cement (re-positionable) to hold sticks in place while figuring the needed adjustment.
@hammockmonk
@hammockmonk 3 ай бұрын
At times, you can use CA glue to fix the miter faces just right before seating them in the corner.
@tomm8775
@tomm8775 Жыл бұрын
I love how all the pros discount this method because it’s not traditional and perfect to them. Wrong audience. Hats off to doing it differently and faster.
@douglasrobertson9851
@douglasrobertson9851 Жыл бұрын
The only reason is houses expand and contract with seasonal weather the mitre method will fail overtime and joints will open up
@lucasdog1
@lucasdog1 10 ай бұрын
Caulk and paint make me the carpenter I ain't.
@jato8596
@jato8596 Жыл бұрын
Caulk and paint makes a carpenter what he ain’t!
@James-r8z5b
@James-r8z5b 8 ай бұрын
For the every day person who has never done trim work going to make it easier for them. And tapping the base board trim before painting that will help you out with the painting. I have done both free hand and taping I prefer taping baseboard
@fasteddie7997
@fasteddie7997 8 ай бұрын
What happens when you nail it back in it goes back further especially when drywall glue is being used an not quite dry
@Anakinuk007
@Anakinuk007 Жыл бұрын
Bit confused as you can buy shims/packers any thickness you like?
@StayHandy
@StayHandy Жыл бұрын
Give it a try and you’ll see why
@audiophileman7047
@audiophileman7047 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thank you, sir! 👍👍👍
@StayHandy
@StayHandy 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! I hope you find it useful.
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