Get Pinpoint Imaging in Atmos Using the Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit - Speaker Pairs

[@joentell]

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[@mattgiunt]

Kudos to Rev Slim and his bubble of sound.When I started using his ideas the SACT disc really changed everything for my system. I found the Timing section seemed to nail everything pretty good and it was easily checked running the Speaker Pair section. Am I the only one who thinks Rev Slim is actually Ealan OsBourne with a little voice change LOL

[@JonMoralesLA]

Rev Slim 🫡

[@TheReverendSlim]

I assure you that Ealan and I are two completely separate people. Also, I don't say "subwooofer". 😃

[@mattgiunt]

@@TheReverendSlim LOL--sorry but you do have that great timbre in your voice.

[@johndaddabbo9383]

Joe - this is EXACTLY what I was referring to with my other comment (Paul/Imaging/Tone) and that has been so very difficult to get rigjt/accurate in the past. I have resorted to "swapping around all of the RCA connections on the back of my Preamp processor (multiple times over) in order to get Test Tones between any and all speaker pairs (just as described here). It most definitely worked, however it's always a TON of work to do so. My gosh this Calibration disc is going to make this sooooo frig'n easy! Thank you so much you two. Ps. anyone on the fence about buying this Calibration disc, I can assure you that it is well worth the asking price... not only in Time saved (a ton of time), but also the end result accuracy that one (anyone) will be able to achieve... i.e. Perfection / the Best your system can be!

[@joentell]

I'm not sure if you know how happy it makes us to hear that our customers are happy with the results they're getting from the calibration toolkit! 🙏🙏🙏

[@TechnoDad]

This is a great video! Big thanks to Joe and to Reverned Slim for taking the time to make this. Trust me, it was A LOT of work creating this section, but it was clearly worth it seeing how many people are using this section.

[@TheReverendSlim]

I appreciate that you guys humored me on this one. Thanks, Channa!

[@welderfixer]

Channa, so far this section has been the most useful for me in getting the movie audio and action on-screen to match up nearly as well as I have been expecting it to be for so many years of my surround sound system journey. Many huge thank yous to you for your efforts on this "toolkit" and all of your other advice in your videos. Hopefully, I can make good use of the other sections to further enhance my pitiful rig. I do hope that you will continue to update the toolkit and may your efforts be well rewarded. One big request: Could you please consider adding to this section; files that use the right front speaker to center image the right side of the room instead of just the left front. Seems like I still have a bit of a panning issue on that side when objects move along that wall. Thanks, thanks and thanks again!

[@welderfixer]

@@TheReverendSlimI'm so glad that you convinced them to produce this section! Currently, I feel it is the most important part of the "toolkit". Not that I am even close to your HT experience or intelligence, but I do believe we expect the same things from our audio experience and how to tune the gear. With a lot of luck I may be 1/10th as smart as you someday, but that is highly unlikely. I sure wish I had the means to get you here to help me with my meager, low buck 5.1.2 system. All the best, Kevin

[@imz14u2nv]

Great Video. I sat there with my complete attention on the conversation, it makes me want to really tweak my system.

[@JonMoralesLA]

This is so good! Thanks for keeping the editing tight on this so it’s easy to follow and straight to the point. I’m gonna have to get in on the Discord chats. Clearly I’ve been missing out on the goods there!

[@joentell]

We have a strong community of awesome folks in there! Join in!

[@TheReverendSlim]

It's funny 'cause Joe basically started recording and we went through it with very little prep. Joe did a great job of asking questions as we went to make everything clear, and I'm glad people find it helpful. See ya' on the Discord!

[@ottoburgess1555]

Thanks!

[@joentell]

Thank you for that. 🙏🙏🙏 Much appreciated

[@imnoone492]

I got your calibration tool kit last Tuesday, I fiddled around with it Tuesday night and the section that you’re talking about is what I was missing. I’ve had my system for five years and this is the first time I’ve actually heard what I’m supposed to be hearing, thank you, thank you, thank you very very much.

[@joentell]

That's awesome to hear!

[@nonametofame]

Thanks for this great discussion and breakdown.

[@midevil1980]

Great explanation! 🍻

[@FrankieKennethL]

Wow. I had totally ignored this chapter on the disc because I had bit understanding of that it’s purpose was for. This review has made it much much more interesting to me and I now can’t wait to actually go over this on my system.

[@joentell]

Thanks to Reverend Slim

[@Duggar200]

To start off, I love the tool kit. I’ve got a OPPO 93 Blu-ray player and it doesn’t work on it, but it does work on my Panasonic DP-UB820. The timing was the most important and useful for me. The clarity of the overall sound in movies is much better. Music is clearer also. Thanks for the videos.

[@FURognar]

Ah, this is good material. I can try this in a few days and see how well everything lines up.

[@joserobles2294]

@joentell we need one for auro 3d 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Sukotto85]

Hi Joe, what is the advantage of doing this over the timing section of the calibration disc?

[@joentell]

Due to the speaker's interaction with the room, it can affect the phase response and slight changes might sound better using this method. These are all just tools, so it's up to the user to determine how to beat utilize them and we might not all agree about how to do that. That's what's great about it.

[@kalexan9]

Nice video idea in showing people how to get the most out of the Spatial Audio Toolkit. Keep it up. Any Memorial Day Sales? I've been meaning to pick this up for myself and my brother-in-law.

[@joentell]

That probably is a good idea. I wish I would've thought of that sooner

[@jeanmoise5259]

wow Spatial audio rock thanks guys

[@welderfixer]

This section of the "toolkit" is, in my opinion, by far the most important and useful. Thanks to both Rev Slim and Channa for producing this test! Awesome! My thoughts on HT tuning are on-par with the Reverend and do to Channa's efforts I am finally able to fulfil my dream of having a system I can say I'm proud of and enjoy. Now, If I could somehow, someway, someday get that pesky darn subwoofer timed correctly! Dang it! 🤔

[@EdwardNygma1980]

Love the disc! And especially this (and the other Timings) section made so much difference. For me I actually had to make a lot of adjustments. I don't know if it's my room/the reflections, but I really had to dial it in. Could be the custom curve I added to Multeq-X that threw some stuff off, but I love the results!

[@hdmoviesource]

Excellent video. I will have to try this method.

[@arielalaniz6057]

15:26 I got my tool kit today in the mail. I’m running 🏃‍♀️ to the mail box now to pick it up

[@joentell]

Please keep us updated. Make sure to join us on Discord!

[@Proud2A]

Just purchased this should arrive on Friday I’m excited to see what’s in store.

[@joentell]

Let us know what you find out.

[@droidzhunterz6861]

Can I buy this digitally so I can put it on my plex server?

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

Yes there is digital version, disc version and bundle of both. Just click the link in the pinned comment

[@droidzhunterz6861]

@@keepingupwiththejones2933 Nice

[@joentell]

Yes. That's how I prefer to run it.

[@UnitedRedDevil13]

If I download the digital version, do I add it to a USB and then plug in straight to my receiver or to my 4K player? Using denon x3800h and Panasonic ub820 player. Thanks.

[@joentell]

@@UnitedRedDevil13 I'm not sure your Panasonic player can play lossless TrueHD audio via files on a USB stick. We have a test track on our website you can try prior. We also have a list of known compatible players. A physical disc will still work perfectly in that player though.

[@Ronildoquek]

Fantastic disc. But I am using the speaker pairs for getting the phantom image correct with speaker placement prior to running room correction. Not so much for dialing in the delays. That’s a lot more accurate using rew with acoustic timing reference that accounts for acoustical delays. Torture test with voice is really good, and square diamond object panning is fantastic . Using a 7.1.6 set up. Tonal balance is also very good! A lot of times I see people asking, how much levels to boost your surround backs post Room correction. (because of shape of ear and how we perceive sound from back compared to mic) ? Some tell u +2, +4,don’t boost. With the spatial disc, there is no need to guess… u can dial in the levels correctly.. superb disc. Supplements REW where u cannot measure imaging .. love the disc, great job guys! Congrats 🎉

[@joentell]

Thank you for the feedback! We are happy that you're finding it useful. Changing the placement of speakers will always be the superior way to do it. The Haas, precedence effect, always plays a part that can't be replaced by level and delays.

[@baronbob6971]

Hello, as far as I understand the kit does not have support for Auro3D, right? Are you planning to ad this in the future?

[@JoeHoedeedoh]

I did the timing test first. Got that dialed in, then speaker pairs required me to change distances. I havent checked yet, but wont this now change the timing tests?

[@ants9574]

The speaker pairs test should sound like they are coming from in between the speakers to really get imaging dialed in. It’s normal if you have to adjust more than a few increments to get it real dialed in along with the timing test, which is more about making sure things are happening at the same time as well as coming from in between the speakers.

[@micker9830]

Is there a way to adjust the timing after a Dirac calibration? Do you just adjust the distance? I believe the timing is locked after Dirac runs?

[@joentell]

I don't think so. That was the issue I had on my NAD T778. There might be away, but I don't know how. I tried disabling the delay and gain in the Dirac software hoping that would allow me to set it manually, but that didn't work for me. It was still greyed out on my NAD.

[@SunnySkiesInAZ]

I am probably missing a step, but Dirac always locks my delays after running calibration.

[@msoles30]

Would this still work if you sit off axis from the LCR

[@TheReverendSlim]

To an extent, it will. Ideally, you would want to be on-axis, but.. if your MLP isn't in a perfect position, you could certainly line things up to work better.

[@simoSLJ89]

Which are the speakers in the thumbnail ?

[@joentell]

Monolith MTM-100

[@Pablito5614]

heyJoe, just found your channels and im loving your reviews. I saw your list for best amps under 500 and i was wondering what you would go with if you had to choose between the ELAC UB5 and the Hercules Dj montior 5. No subwoofers added, just as desk speakers. Would be awesome to get your opinion and youll definitely be getting an instant sub and recommend. God bless.

[@msoles30]

How can you do this in rew

[@sjsphotog]

Please confirm - if i use the cd to calibrate then i will have to turn OFF Audysey once done and never use it again?

[@joentell]

That's one way you can use it if you want to go fun manual. But there's no reason why you can't do a calibration with Audyssey's auto calibration and then make some tweaks with this toolkit.

[@DescartesRenegade]

Side note, think you review the dayton spa250dsp or spa500dsp? Its a subwoofer plate amp with dsp, balanced in/out, and mains delay. This thing allows true seamless integration to any powered speakers/ studio monitors.

[@joentell]

Mains delay? That's interesting. If you want to reach out to them and let them know I'm interested and you're interested, they'll probably listen to you more. 😁

[@DescartesRenegade]

@@joentell I already bought the damn thing, but I'll send them an email anyway.

[@joentell]

@@DescartesRenegade maybe you can just do a quick review or give some feedback

[@DescartesRenegade]

@@joentell bro, I'm not ready for the fame and fortune.

[@joentell]

I don't see anything about mains delay on either of those

[@NickkaDUB]

Why don’t they make a head/ear shaped microphone?

[@welderfixer]

They do, just that very few people can afford one. Nor, could we afford the software to use it to do the tuning.

[@ricochet330]

isnt this very similar to the "Timing" chapter?

[@joentell]

Similar. The timing chapter is more about instantaneous impulses, which might help ensure that things are happening at the same time. The pairs use a static sound which might be helpful for imaging.

[@michaelerickson8159]

I'm hoping you can clarify this for me. Do you adjust individual speaker delay through speaker distance

[@joentell]

Correct

[@michaelerickson8159]

@Joe N Tell thanks man. Love all of the work you guys are doing for the community! I never miss a video 😆

[@joentell]

@@michaelerickson8159 I appreciate you too! 🙏

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

I feel shame and guilt that i haven't bought yet. I will go sit in the corner

[@joentell]

Only one way to fix that! 😁

[@TheReverendSlim]

You should, Jonesy! SHAME!

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

@@TheReverendSlim 😅🤣

[@michaeloconnor9465]

When you send it to the UK, our government tax us on the postage that means 23 dollars become 27 dollars. Your postage is very high to start with. I recently purchased a product from the US and the postage tracked was only 12 dollars, why is your postage cost so high.

[@joentell]

The additional taxes are dependent on the cost of the product. We do not set the cost for shipping or taxes. It is set automatically by the service we use for shipping. If you want to save on shipping, you can reach out to American Audio Co UK to see if they still have some. We are looking for local distributors to help people save on shipping and import duties, because that's out of our control otherwise.

[@michaeloconnor9465]

@Joe N Tell You need to be aware that taxes are charged when the product arrives on the post and not only on the product. Here in the UK, they have come up with every stealth tax you imagine. If the product is 81 dollars and shipping 23 dollars, they charge tax on 104 dollars. And if a product is over 138 pounds then our government let's the courier firm charge a handling fee. That is why it is important that shipping costs are kept to the minimum to the UK and EU.

[@joentell]

@@michaeloconnor9465 I don't deal with the website directly, but I think we even have a warning that comes up now when someone buys internationally that there might be additional costs that they need to be aware of prior to purchase.

[@MixologistMilo]

$100 for the Blu-ray?? 😂