Other videos will be more "very short", this one had a lot to cover! Hope you enjoy the different strategies I'll be offering. Again, not every single one will be viable for every single person, but I'll try my best to bring as many as possible so people have a good amount of choice going into future leagues!
@MandruDuce3 жыл бұрын
I ran the retarded version of this strat. Bought bulk contracts from tft for 2c a piece and ran them regardless of the contract type with the main focus of doing them as fast as possible. The main upside to running lvl 69+ contracts is that u get reveals (which I personally didnt use) and have no issue with leveling. Also, you get more rogue markers which I sold week 1 for like 20-30K per 1ex. On avg it was like 1ex in markers every 30 contracts. I farmed HH week 1 with this strat. One caveat though... I LIKE heisting. It still drove me nearly insane just cause some of the NPCs (mainly Vinderi) are completely moronic. They get stuck, don't execute commands, keep fighting mobs, etc... Doin contracts over and over and over again for several days... Not advisable if you are not a super chill patient person and enjoy the mechanic. You might get burned out and start hating the game.
@bwwiersig3 жыл бұрын
Just did one grand heist today got divergent vortex cast when damage taken and used the orb to change quality of determination to divergent. Not a bad for such a short time.
@ArnoldMejia3 жыл бұрын
One thing I'm noticing is that a lot of your videos focus on League start. A lot of people, probably most, can't front load their time so need strats that work a week into or mid league. Seems streamers make bank at the beginning and never worry about farming again because snowballing their gains.
@LlaroldLive3 жыл бұрын
This series is already terrific. I would never complain about time spent going into extra detail.
@1604MafiaBest3 жыл бұрын
@@ArnoldMejia just check his previous league videos, he farmed HH like 5 different ways at the middle of the league from like tabula +white maps start
@Adoptulous3 жыл бұрын
that book of regression trick is genius, thanks
@TheRoblock3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it's coming on Chris' chopping board for the next "not intended" feature
@astronemir3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content. Will definitely be coming back to reference this for league start as well.
@MultiReptilian3 жыл бұрын
Look out for heist nerfs next patch, he wouldn't upload this before expedition when it was clear its the best source of currency
@Rinkie7393 жыл бұрын
book of regression is legit next level for unlimited contracts and I totally see them deleting that asap next league
@NineSeptims2 жыл бұрын
Still here
@geopan913 жыл бұрын
Haven't touched PoE this league, but your channel and your guides were my main source of improvement in the 2 previous leagues. Basically getting me from struggling for currency (
@Klasus3573 жыл бұрын
Nice strategy tutorial! I been doing heist with random contracts, this will help me to channel into the more efficient ones.
@emreparlak23063 жыл бұрын
You are a gift to the community.
@LokirofRoriksted3 жыл бұрын
holy shit this is actually great! 9000 IQ for sure
@gopalayoung37193 жыл бұрын
Suuuuuuuch good information here. OMG. My league start will be completely different next league.
@Mozric3 жыл бұрын
Nice day one strat, particularly if you're grinding this out while people are pushing maps and bosses, you'll have a big relative advantage.
@neonv133 жыл бұрын
Oooh I see GGG will 'fix' that buying contract in next legue probably
@Rawlingm3 жыл бұрын
very smart of you to put this video out after what should be the last major patch of league, because this 100% is going to get gutted for sure
@pathofmatth3 жыл бұрын
why would it? it's not even that good? and you make 0 progress in the atlas & maven questline
@mirek28453 жыл бұрын
@@pathofmatth I think that if GGG hears about it they gonna take the delevel thing as an exploit and make the NPC not refresh the contracts if you use the book of regression.
@Zookay3 жыл бұрын
@@mirek2845 we are already able to infinitely do quest contracts over and over, and that's still in the game after a few leagues and GGG seems fine with that. They are low lvl contracts, and like Matth said, you don't progress the atlas at all. It's something to do veeeery early in the league to maybe get a headstart on some of the meta-uniques, but after the first weekend you're behind everyone else in atlas progression and have to catch up, and just hope that you've made enough profit from doing all those contracts. Running these contracts for hours on end is also boring as hell...
@mirek28453 жыл бұрын
@@Zookay m8, you're the second person that tells me that we are able to do quest contracts over and over, i knew that we couldn't but i went ingame anyway and tried, just to make sure, you can't do it, if you fail the quest contract it disappears, just like any other contract, it would be a huge exploit if we could just pick a lockpicking quest contract and print currency. also, u said that is only good in the beggining of the league but for people who farm heist having a way to get free reveal discounts is huge, u can have an alt and farm as many Gianna reveals as you want.
@zaknafein2543 жыл бұрын
@@mirek2845 I thought that the idea behind being able to repeat quest contracts is that if you repeatedly fail one while completing all the others, eventually the only quest contract you will recieve from smugglers caches will be that one specific one, which you will recieve in addition to everything else you get from a cache every single time (as long as you fail it before opening another cache).
@LordAnublz2 жыл бұрын
Its funny, you brought this 2 month ago, and now every content creator is doing an endless heist guide ... :D
@pathofmatth2 жыл бұрын
And none of them are saying where they got the idea from LMAO Edit: I'm the first to say there's no such thing as stealing builds really, it's ez for 2 content creators to have the same build idea... but this strategy... a year after Heist league... all of a sudden....
@abedalrazzakalaywi89213 жыл бұрын
Yes please make more of these new type of videos.keep up the good work
@yoelezequieldemedici25453 жыл бұрын
What i just never tought about is that: if i make a 2nd character only to do Heist, i can do the 4 labyrints and get into lvl95 only doing Heist... and never kill Kitava with that character?
@francisdark3 жыл бұрын
You can as long as a character on that account has unlocked all the trials. Ive leveled to 95 on console never killing kitava just in heist and occasionally delve. The resistance bonus is really nice however apparently at higher levels you will still lose 10% exp for dying.
@Senny_V2 жыл бұрын
@@francisdark I mean, the XP loss part is obvious, since that formula is based on level, not story progression.
@TheRealTrucido3 жыл бұрын
GGG: We want people to play stupid content for the entire league. Me: No.
@pelhammyburgh78193 жыл бұрын
Hey Matthew. You are one of my favourite POE content creators. Super simple explanations. Keep up the good work bro 💪🏼💪🏼
@Pandaxtor2 жыл бұрын
Unique loot is strong this league btw. Probably still good after a week instead of 1 day
@LongX493 жыл бұрын
one of nicest strat i ever seen
@MsPiter873 жыл бұрын
How much money can you get if you min max from heisting and what would be the way to do it?
@fucgoogle45593 жыл бұрын
Cool vid. Now you just have to find one of 3 broken builds in the first 2 days and get ahead of every one else
@rubensfeitosa22023 жыл бұрын
Toxic rain is a safe build to do this strategy
@wygiwyg3 жыл бұрын
@@rubensfeitosa2202 i think the idea is to identify the new broken and use the heist money to buy everything cheap before prices exploded because of popularity
@rubensfeitosa22023 жыл бұрын
@@wygiwyg oh, sorry, i didnt understand when i read for the first time. Thx.
@WizardOrangeScorpion3 жыл бұрын
reading patch notes helps here. After a while it's not too hard to see what could be potentially strong.
@biotechstockscapital23053 жыл бұрын
Cool vid! Still want some tips on what to farm after the league start tho
@mavericks2k811 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. At what point should I start going past lvl 70 and doing grand heist?
@derangedcabbit3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, looking foreword to more ez money making strats
@semihamf13852 жыл бұрын
Any possibility for an updated version on this?
@elantonelle2 жыл бұрын
no need, its the same
@sethewing152 жыл бұрын
after many leagues of avoiding heist, i'm starting PC Pathfinder and i would feel remiss to not take advantage... here's to hoping I don't get burnt out after 2 contracts
@MrRaja3 жыл бұрын
Time to make a tanky zoom build.
@razaron932 жыл бұрын
Any pitfalls to using this strat with a second character in SSF, to farm reveals and markers for the first character? Thinking of using it to feed a replica farm. I imagine blueprints will end up being a bottle neck anyway but hopefully there's atlas passives for that...
@PrivatesPlay3 жыл бұрын
Chris gonna get mad of you!
@distilledwill3 жыл бұрын
So I guess I'm doing this next league start.
@Vanqofficial3 жыл бұрын
you're a genius dude
@antonk21573 жыл бұрын
Man, this is a very cool trick!! POM da best!
@Kcajakon3 жыл бұрын
Im litterally doing this right now in SSF on a alt character. hit 71. buy the contracts, delevel and rebuy. usually i get the scouring without even having to touch my currency contracts.
@lighthouseKeeper422 жыл бұрын
What would be a solid build for this tactic? Tanky and fast on lvl 70
@MrBoBrilO3 жыл бұрын
Full Heist guide when? :)
@patrickaarongonzaga53692 жыл бұрын
Good day Matth! I did a quick search of "Heist" in the 3.17 patchnotes, and I didn't see any changes to this mechanic whatsoever. But that was just a quick search on my end so I just wanted to verify: So is this strategy still viable in 3.17 league start scenario? Also, if you think that this is not viable anymore, do you have any alternative farming method to suggest? Thanks and stay awesome! Just wanted you to know as well that this guide helped me a lot during league start in 3.16!
@pathofmatth2 жыл бұрын
Yup, none of this has changed, it's still perfectly viable :)
@ytwyrm2 жыл бұрын
@@pathofmatth Does the removal of Prophecies change priorities at all in your view?
@myownhaven16013 жыл бұрын
Very content bro!
@TheyCalledMeT2 жыл бұрын
the scouring orb came from your chest, leaving early (as u mentioned) will run you dry on coins but outside of that .. amazing strat. would've loved to see how much time an actual heist would have taken .. they're sometimes a bit .. annoying
@xiayu94512 жыл бұрын
3 mins tops
@JTD4723 жыл бұрын
The videos can be shorter if you do short intros. You can just say “this is about heist and how to farm it early on in league” or something to that effect, and then just get to the main content. Iwe don’t require 5 min intros Just a thought. Thanks
@ludwigelzawahry2773 жыл бұрын
Heist Contract reveal nerf incoming.
@maharero90802 жыл бұрын
I wonder if offerings will still be dropping from these low level heists. Due to not needing map trials anymore, offerings will be in lower supply and will have much higher market demand. Especially since they will only start dropping in yellow maps as well, if we can get them early from heist I can see its value skyrocketing
@whatever-ej8dz2 жыл бұрын
Not too sure about that. Maybe on day one but afterwards they will be like 1 or 2c. Demand will probably be lower cause everybody will just run this one trial instead of trying to brute force the last trial with offerings in your map device. Overall after day 1 those who are willing to pay for an offering to get their points faster did their uber lab and no one will buy them besides a few people running harvest.
@lucasmacchi14553 жыл бұрын
Great vid awesome
@badmojo88543 жыл бұрын
1- Can you do a few early pob options for this strat? nothing fancy just some can't-go-wrong stuff 2- If they nerf it in a way that the shop doesnt reset when you go down a level, only when you level up, it would still probably work, right? just doing a few of the "bad" contracts? thx
@beasthaven15713 жыл бұрын
Prob tr
@aldodzb3 жыл бұрын
Thing is, you are restricting yourself from bigger strategies, you don't have a way to immediately jump into a higher "tier" ones. Since you still lvl sub 70, no atlas progression, not even kitava if you choose to not do it?. And why reveals are so important if you arent going to use them in this strat? I think its just far better to focus on lex alira after leap froggin a bit, and with the first 2 maven passives you spam maps and you are going to be flooded by heist cachés. Or just buy in bulks from tft if you want to spam heists contracts. Also, next league we are probably going to have heist in ZANA. So, mapping whites - 2c + heists > these 67 random contracts, and you can progress overall in the game.
@hansromuar85663 жыл бұрын
what a big brain!
@anasszouhir95602 жыл бұрын
Due to the prophecy node changed into currency node, because prophecies are removed, would you change anything to this method? Like i think this method is even better now no?
@bubblehulk76472 жыл бұрын
Is blueprint farming strong for the duration of a league? I can’t start until day 2 and want to try and farm for a HH or mageblood over the first month.
@Pluke892 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your Poe yt channel .to bad i didnt Found you Faster 😁
@akwasp8693 жыл бұрын
Opinion for running Contracts as White vs Magic vs Rare?
@Sidnv3 жыл бұрын
Magic and rare don't increase chest drops, it affects drops from the enemies, which are mediocre anyways and reduces alert level. You don't need to reduce alert level for heists. You can transmute them, but it does make them more dangerous. Alching them is a waste of resources, and makes the contract much more dangerous. You absolutely should alch the grand heists though.
@Capristar2 жыл бұрын
Would the shop refresh if I do this method without being on the levels youve mentioned? Say 73 to 72 then goes back to 73?
@Ghost-zi2eo3 жыл бұрын
dude wow u r genius
@testuser42002 жыл бұрын
How do i need to read the Cheatsheet? What does the white number mean between the Heist and NPC? Do i need to chose the lowest value or the highest value?
@MrCookieeis2 жыл бұрын
You need to use the one with the highest number as it reflects the level a NPC can reach in a category like agility
@xedden22 жыл бұрын
I've not heisted since heist league and not much then. Is it worth doing heists as they come up in the campaign or just get to act 10 faster. Don't need to do green heists to unlock characters right?
@Micromation2 жыл бұрын
No, you unlock Heist characters by taking specific characters to Heist. As for Heists themselves, they're quite decent source of exp but other than that they give jackshit during leveling so probably wanna hit A9 or A10 asap and then get on the gravy train
@landerdaf3 жыл бұрын
Are you joking about prophercies? You wont get anything from there, thats waste of your contract, Its better to open 2 small boxes than1 prophercy for sure! This is as bad as talismans or abbys.
@KujieSama3 жыл бұрын
Also Chris said that Navali will be no more soon
@morfiel36682 жыл бұрын
do i get the blueprints for grand heists while running contracts? i skipped heist and haven't touched it at all but wanna try it
@astronemir3 жыл бұрын
What's a good move speed league start build for farming heist (without doing Kitava and hence without uber lab as well)?
@jojoyear3 жыл бұрын
Tr raider
@francisdark3 жыл бұрын
You can still do uber lab but the trials will have to be unlocked on another character.
@SakaiSteven3 жыл бұрын
Who needs Uber lab to do Heist level 67?
@andrlars3 жыл бұрын
what is some good builds for doing heist. not only TR/CA raider if possible
@Enditoren3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a good build for this kind of heisting? something that is fast, wont die often and has auto targeting for the enemies?
@SheinelI3 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Van Achteren pathfinder scourge is pretty nice for it, I have a constant +150% movespeed and poison profil is pretty nice in heist
@osh1112 жыл бұрын
allright, what build can run this real nice?
@compulsiveconsumption2 жыл бұрын
did you study?
@Vyn643 жыл бұрын
Say you have a group that is pushing maps while you do this strat - is there any need to delevel if they can funnel contracts to you from maps?
@nathanvine74333 жыл бұрын
It's entirely for refreshing the stock of contracts and reveals. If your group is able to feed you enough contracts, and your build is good enough to go above lv67, then go for it. Just remember that if you're doing each one in 2ish minutes then you need 30 contracts an hour, which isnt a small number
@Vyn643 жыл бұрын
@@nathanvine7433 great point, thanks. Will keep this in mind for next league
@frostknight76873 жыл бұрын
Ggg: you already crossed the line boy, nerfed the ability to buy contracts when you delevel your characters. On top of that increasing the amount of coins depending on the times you have done the same contracts.
@frostknight76873 жыл бұрын
@Jordy Willaert its ggg we are talking about zoomer they are more than ready to take your toys lol.
@JohnCena-dj6mg2 жыл бұрын
@Jordy Willaert u are cringe :
@JohnCena-dj6mg2 жыл бұрын
@Jordy Willaert yea... 0 arguments after u fcked up with ur comment and now u talking about names in the internet, get out of my face kid :3 PS can't expect more from guy who can't read, using this boomer stuff in his msges and named Jordy, stay strong bro
@JohnCena-dj6mg2 жыл бұрын
@Jordy Willaert talks that i am triggered and spam me with 3 comments in a row, what a clown :o) typical Jordy
@xiayu94512 жыл бұрын
what level should i stay at
@justinmaynard83052 жыл бұрын
What item level drops from those 67 contracts. I only ask as it pertains to the chaos recipe. Sorry if that should be common knowledge. I'm new. Lol
@pathofmatth2 жыл бұрын
Same level, so most items are between 67 and 69, which is perfectly fine for chaos recipe!
@cbrusername3 жыл бұрын
Is pob of that grat tr available?
@tommycong60083 жыл бұрын
Can you guys tell me how to unlock deception, its been two leagues and I cannot unlock deception?
@mirek28453 жыл бұрын
Run Huck contracts to unlock Niles or Vinderi to unlock Gianna, both Niles and Gianna have the deception trait.
@Vanqofficial3 жыл бұрын
Since I quit on day one of the league, now I actually want to make a new ssf char to only do heists for the entire league. It would be an adventure.
@Ersb992 жыл бұрын
Yo man , this stil work for 3.16 ?
@Rodionnx3 жыл бұрын
C'mon Trap Disarmament giving splinters !! Not so useless.
@Bstrain863 жыл бұрын
Did I miss how you sustain contracts?
@d4ni3lllll3 жыл бұрын
When you level and delevel the contract shop is refreshed. That's it
@jointosrs84803 жыл бұрын
what is chaos recipe? what does that mean? (im very new)
@Ilyak19863 жыл бұрын
Chaos recipe = selling an entire character set of items to vendors at level 60 or higher. That is, 2x 1H weapons or 1x 2H weapon, 2x rings, 1x amulet, chest, boots, gloves, belt, helmet, all of which are rare. If you do it identified, you only get 1 chaos, but unidentified gets you 2 chaos.
@death_by_tophats88703 жыл бұрын
Just get the quest contract of your choice and never complete them then you can run it as much as you want for the cost of 1 inventory slot and rouge marker travel cost.
@mirek28453 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by never complete? because if you fail the quest contract it disappears, you cant keep doin it.
@death_by_tophats88703 жыл бұрын
@@mirek2845 Unless they changed it when you do a green quest contract and dont grab the heist target at the end you got to keep the contract to try again. But I havent done much heist since heist league so they could have changed that.
@AGVenge2 жыл бұрын
What changed here for 3.17?
@pathofmatth2 жыл бұрын
literally nothing :)
@olegmedwwed59473 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Except looks like be "fixed" in 3.16. :)
@mangosan58843 жыл бұрын
The only reasonable nerf they can do is to remove reveals from ilvl67 and lower contracts - but it will be still good even witout Grand Heists
@olegmedwwed59473 жыл бұрын
@@mangosan5884 "Leveling again to the same level no more grants vendor stash reroll" Patch 3.16 leaks:) This is reasonable
@Molkiss3 жыл бұрын
4-5ex an hour? you can't be serious
@kirbyduay3 жыл бұрын
Could be more than that honestly. Remember this is the first few days of the league where an ex cost 40-60c.
@akirohitan46983 жыл бұрын
Lol the more I learn about currency making the more I want to just try ssf
@wygiwyg3 жыл бұрын
this is the way
@financecommonsense9623 жыл бұрын
Stop bro. You're giving them reasons for more nerfs. Everything that earns 10 Alchs /h is no longer allowed.
@Dragon2113 жыл бұрын
hopefully this doesn't get nerfed in 3.16
@krzysztofmazurek48653 жыл бұрын
Heist ?? No ty! Pass :)
@fhucko3 жыл бұрын
Good, go farm it. At least gems will be cheaper.
@nevous83 жыл бұрын
This is some high level stupid smart stuff.. =/
@JavierCasanova252 жыл бұрын
you know this video is basically clickbait at this point ;)
@pathofmatth2 жыл бұрын
???
@JavierCasanova252 жыл бұрын
@@pathofmatth endless heist coming
@whoneedshandlesanyway2 жыл бұрын
lmao Whakako
@TheYuxiaodi3 жыл бұрын
Hey Math.. now that youre rich you can afford a haircut. Congratulations and thanks for sparing our eyes.
@shreddakj3 жыл бұрын
Wh is an F sound, and it is pronounced like Faa-Kaa-Noh
@oreesama223 жыл бұрын
2 things matth 1- you do get neg resistances by act 6 cuz you've already killed kitava once, your video says otherwise when is not. 2- that scour you counted as part of the loots was from you trying to show the de leveling orb
@astronemir3 жыл бұрын
You don't get it twice though, that's his point.
@pathofmatth3 жыл бұрын
You get -30 all res pen for each time you kill Kitava, if you don't kill act 10, you don't get -60, you get -30 total. And who cares about the scouring dude lmao that's not the point
@voidzero51243 жыл бұрын
lmao that must hurt as a content creator to see such dumb comments
@markwalden24332 жыл бұрын
noob found lmfao
@xpinyomu43523 жыл бұрын
No good content
@Sir5am893 жыл бұрын
First !
@andrefrauenknecht81903 жыл бұрын
No! bad advice... Heist mobs: very tanking very deadly - and this is n all or nothing farm - die with with your spoils after the alarm all gone! even a mirror - for new players i would say do not touch this as most current build mechs cant handle proper heist farming
@pathofmatth3 жыл бұрын
Just play a shield charge cold totem build, 0 risk and moves around fast, or something like a raider TR, also perfectly adequate for this, tons of dodge. Deff not "bad advice" lmao unless you're just afking in the packs of monsters, it's extremely easy
@andrefrauenknecht81903 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Van Achteren Must be bro thanks for the in depth comment
@francisdark3 жыл бұрын
Its not really a noob strategy though, and there are easy tanky builds for heist, sst glad or even poison pathfinder can be build tanky by that level and can still move fast.
@GG-jg6py3 жыл бұрын
White contracts are so easy what are you talking about?