I feel it needs said that at least in my case stupid often does hurt LOL!
@StoneyRidgeFarmer4 жыл бұрын
bhahhaha Steve
@RobertJones-ey9qz4 жыл бұрын
I have always been told that if you want to protect an area, place the traps about 50 yards away from the area. Like if you were doing a garden area, put them about 50 yards from each corner. Otherwise, you are drawing them to the garden. I've also heard that those traps can draw beetles from as much as a half mile away. Good luck with them.
@fooddude99214 жыл бұрын
Be ready for an infestation of those beetles - those traps attract not just the ones in your garden/orchard, but every other beetle within about 1/2 mile. It's said, tongue in cheek, to hang them next to your neighbor's property, they'll draw your beetles away to his land - lol. Next year maybe try neem oil before the trees flower and then again weekly up until flowering - get the Organic kind. Good luck!
@BookGolem4 жыл бұрын
Did traps for years had traps full of them but it never helped. Then we used milky spore and no more beetles.
@timothyamos80494 жыл бұрын
Hello Josh, I have a recommendation for you to use. Its called St. Gabriel organic Milky Spore Powered. The Life cycle of those Japanese Beatle, is they mate fall to the ground lay their eggs and they borrow down then reappear the following year. The powder is organic you spead it on the ground around the trees, the larve will eat, they die as they decompose the spores spread and so the following year if they reappear it will kill more of the larvae. I did this 2 years ago and i havent have any issues with the critters. The bad thing is you won't have the snacks for the chickens but you will have peaches.
@rtaichman1 Жыл бұрын
@timothyamos8049 great tip will try the milky spire powder. Did you appliy it in the fall and sprince once snow melted. Should you apply the milky spore directly onto the mulch around the tree or do you also have to spread it on the grass in the row between your fruit trees?
@timothyamos8049 Жыл бұрын
@@rtaichman1 I applied it during July. It stays in the ground for years.
@tommylovell25284 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh ! Take a big plastic lid (cool whip size ) and run it down the wire tie to cover the top . It will keep your bait dry . The beatles will still find their way in ! Woooo !!
@jeffrobison20134 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same but use the tub, it would come down around it some and protect better.
@tommylovell25284 жыл бұрын
@jeff robinson That's a great idea as well . If I was to use the tub , i would set it a couple inches above the top of the yellow plastic with a knot in the wire tie so the beetles don't have to fly upward into it !
@ajlewis94544 жыл бұрын
if you mount them over a 5gal bucket with soapy water and open the bottom of the bag they will fall right through into the water so you don't have to keep emptying the bag all the time. You could also cover your trees with bug netting to save your fruit.
@amsmithonline4 жыл бұрын
You might try innoculating your soil in the orchard with milky spore. That will take care of the Japanese Beetle at the larvae stage.
Yes, when I saw the infestation that he has, that was my first thought. He's trying to control something that is 'after the fact'. Milky spore applied to the soil of his orchard will get to the larvae so they don't come out of the ground and make it to adulthood. I believe it is a bacteria? Treat the ground in late fall and then again in early spring, and it will take care of this issue without using chemicals and sprays. As one other viewer said, Neem Oil does work well and its the natural oil of the Chinaberry tree. Good stuff, but if you get a couple of days of rain, it looses it's effectiveness rather quickly. Good luck with your fruit trees Josh!
@tropifiori4 жыл бұрын
I have done that. It helped a little but I am still over run.
@michaelhoward19004 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Lasts for years and doesn't harm beneficial critters.
@bcgrittner4 жыл бұрын
Per your advice, I used some of these bags last summer to keep the beetles from decimating my fenceline shrubs. The bags were absolutely effective. It appears the scent chemical intoxicates the beetles and they fall into the bag. They sit there flailing their legs helplessly. The beetle bag is a very effective device that is not harmful to the environment. I also recommend it highly.
@davebruins86234 жыл бұрын
Was happy when my neighbor hung these...all the beetles left my yard and went to his ;)
@chadstrutzenberg91714 жыл бұрын
Putting milky spore in the grass areas also helps. Spores build up after a while and stay in the soil. It kills the grubs!
@NMW804 жыл бұрын
What is milky spore? Thanks for the tip I will look into it.
@Skevins4 жыл бұрын
Josh, I use those around my property near my fruit trees as well and they work fantastic but a little tip for you. Place the traps about 10 feet away from the trees you want to protect. The attractant will actually bring more beetles to the trees if they are hanging in the tree then if they where located away from them. Hope you get to enjoy those peaches some day. God Bless.
@JP_Ross4 жыл бұрын
Look on the back of the beetles. If you see one or more white dote, release that beetle if you can. The white dote is the egg of a parasite fly that kill the beetle as it grows inside the beetle. Each fly can kill about 100 beetles, so it can decrease there number very quickly. Just another tip, don't put the trap in the fruit tree. Try to make a circle at about 200-300 feet from your trees so the beetles won't stop in the tree anymore. Good luck, you really have a lot of those guys. It's always fun to see your new videos!
@keithr42244 жыл бұрын
Wow, I’m 68 and remember those bug bags when I was a kid in Connecticut. Haven’t seen them in years however. The attractor scent is unique. Very strong and sweet. I can smell it right now watching you. They used to fill up in an hour. Best of luck.
@RitzWood324 жыл бұрын
Every beetle within 5 miles will be attracted to those trees.You should hang it away from fruit trees/garden. I cut the bottom and rigged up a 40 gallon trash bag about 200 yards away. Worked great keeping the bugs away from garden.
@tmorgan79394 жыл бұрын
I have bought a different brand but effectively the same to attract and trap the beetles. I always put it a godd 100 feet away from the plants or trees they were going after otgerwise I would attract the beetles right to the trees under siege. The bag definitely works but it takes time for 100 beetles to get through the line getting into the trap. While waiting they eat the leaves and fruit near the trap.
@RitzWood324 жыл бұрын
T Morgan yep, that’s perfect distance. Plus if you happen to forget to empty a bag at least they won’t be right on top of what your trying to protect😅
@NMW804 жыл бұрын
Lol awesome. I agree good advice 👍
@WH6FQE4 жыл бұрын
Not only fruit trees, but gardens as well. I am battling Japanese Beetles over my beans this year, they love beans.
@fricknjeep4 жыл бұрын
hi there been there with Japanese beetles milky spore works better . highly recommend . i us to get a 5 gallon bucket of about every 4 days (20 ) traps in peak season . now i don't even put out the traps . it takes a few years to kick in . thanks john
@TheFrankBarrett4 жыл бұрын
Josh, hit those trees monthly with a good spray down of neem oil. They don't like the oil and it is non-toxic. We had issues with those beetles a year ago and the traps only brought more.
@stressfreepaperchase32154 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@patriciamorlan64874 жыл бұрын
Yes, we use neem oil (70%) on ours too soaking the leaves, we usually have to do two treatments a couple of days apart and unless we have rain then we have to do it again. We also use this kind of trap cause our chickens and guineas love them.
@roydavis22424 жыл бұрын
My grandfather had a device he used that had a glass bottom. He use to dump them in a mason jar of Kerosene every day. If I remember correctly he used apple slices as bait. My father-in-law had one as well. We didn't have as big a problem when we started using Neem oil on the property. It's a natural grub treatment.
@MartinD9999 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks! I feed them to my pond fish. Gives them a little extra nutrients than the dry feed I give them.
@markrodriguez52694 жыл бұрын
I use these in Connecticut and they work the best!
@rabidbeagle4 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, you can buy just the lures and the bags separately. Reuse the plastic part and save a few dollars! Those traps work great. I've been using them for years. You may also want to incorporate some sort of grub control program to kill their larvae too.
@johnscott16214 жыл бұрын
Neat video. simple, useful good price and no bad poisons so its safe around kids and pets. Thanks for the info and the demonstration.
@eatportchops4 жыл бұрын
For bug killing therapy I take a spray bottle and mix water with Dawn dish soap and spray them. They will die within one minute and fall to the ground. Die Bugs Die.
@tall14dude4 жыл бұрын
I love that shirt! Very similar to a phrase my dad says "stupid is what got you there"
@neilfrank82144 жыл бұрын
Grow some Inca Marigolds, the large variety, and plant them around your yard and at the end of your garden rows. They are poisonous to the japanese beetles, and they attract them. They will eat at the bloom and leaves, to the point you think the marigold is dead, but if you leave the plant there, it will sprout new leaves and then blooms again in the fall, and have great color. I know it would be too late to do this year, but food for thought next year.
@StoneyRidgeFarmer4 жыл бұрын
man...I've heard all the tales of Marigolds keeping pests out of the garden..but I've never seen it work in my experience....we may never get a handle on these beetles...they're all over the farm on every tree and they really like lespedeza in our pastures
@neilfrank82144 жыл бұрын
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer swe have planted the marigolds like that for probably 35-40 years, and it does work,
@martineastburn36794 жыл бұрын
Wow - as a kid (2-10 grade) we lived in El Paso Texas. The Japanese Beetles that were 1.5" long and .75 wide !! We used thread tied in their wings and 'flew' them around the yard. Crazy attacking our Sun Flowers we planted in the back yard. Frosty Green and with colors on the 'belt'.
@ptrain90204 жыл бұрын
I use to use these and they do work but I also have notice where the beetle is right next to the trap and continued to eat my leaves. I use an organic cocktail that I make that works for me. Another thing you can do is plant a green beans far away from your main area you want to protect and use the green beans as a trap crop. Japanese Beetles just love green beans more than anything.
@joanharris80572 жыл бұрын
They are eating my green beans! This is war! Hubby and I love fresh green beans! Set out 2 traps and hand picking them off my beans and tomatoes. I collect them in a quart jar of soapy water with a top on it. I never had Japanese beetles when we had a huge garden for our family. Now with just a raised bed for hubby and me, the Japanese beetles have set up camp in our garden and even of my mosquito plants.
@ptrain90202 жыл бұрын
@@joanharris8057 You can also use pyrethrin. that's what I use now and a new product called beetle gone. The pirate throne is a direct contact killer. The beetle gone is more of the Beatles eats then dies.
@onesunnyday56993 жыл бұрын
That chicken got knocked tf OUT! 😅🤣
@LandtoHouse4 жыл бұрын
Just got mine in the mail today.
@donnaelkins1863 жыл бұрын
I just bought today. Found your KZbin channel how to put it together. Thanks for your video.
@cindypolage54997 ай бұрын
These just drew thousands more Japanese beetles to my yard.
@StoneyRidgeFarmer7 ай бұрын
you see how many I caught...this works great!
@mikemine34574 жыл бұрын
I have used these for a few years and they really work well. I only have a few trees but I still want to protect them. Now if I can only keep the deer away.
@brandonpeppers69254 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh what we like to do is put the traps on a 3 or 4.inch pipe and send it into a five gallon bucket and put a little water in it that way you don't go so many bags and you will fill that in a day or two as you already know keep up the good work
@derekuber4 жыл бұрын
My parents had Japanese beetle issues for almost 10 years until they started treating the soil and killing the larvae. Year 3 with no beetles on their trees!
@suburbangardenpermaculture31174 жыл бұрын
I got a 100 count drawstring wedding/jewelry bags deal from Amazon pretty cheap, 5x7". Got 2 of em in fact lol. I have bagged 2 apple and 2 Asian pear trees this year and all my tomatoes (stink bug bite holes? Not anymore!) Thought you might look into it at least.. that tree is small and easily accessible, bagging 40 fruit would be a 10-15 min affair once a year. Something to consider. (They can be seen in action on my last few vids)
@steventiller54034 жыл бұрын
We use to use bread bags 30 years ago. My dad always said we need to put them in a neighbors yard.
@semco720574 жыл бұрын
That looks like a great system and it seem to work perfectly and if I had many fruit trees here at my place in Arkansas I would be buying and putting the traps out to see if they would catch the insects we have here. I have not seen any of those insects here yet, but there may be some I have not noticed. Thanks for this tip and I hope it helps you considerably in catching those insects.
@allenhenry11134 жыл бұрын
Hello from Sardis City, Alabama. The beetles arent that bad here!! Wow!!!
@jeffbute84314 жыл бұрын
Take a plastic milk jug put vinegar sugar and a banana peel couple cups water in jug cut hole small near handle entry point. Use wire or string around handle to hang works great around apple trees fruit trees gardens
@danielstewart77322 жыл бұрын
We have a few acres, with a good section of fruit trees, we have had a major infestation the last two year. Between the local Amish fruit thieves, and these Japanese beetles, we haven't had a bit of fruit out of our orchard. Last weekend I took two bag traps like you shown, I have had to empty those bags twice this week. I was getting mobbed by beetles as I was hanging the traps. I 100% swear by these bags.
@cindyjohnson52424 жыл бұрын
Another thing that works is a bug zapper with a white, flat 2 inch deep container filled with soapy water, placed underneath on the ground, about 2-3 ft below. Every morning the container will be filled with hundreds of dead bugs, which my ducks and chickens rush to every morning when let out of their coop. All sorts of bugs fly towards the light, hit it, and fall into the water. Most are too big to get zapped, but they do drown in the soapy water. The soap is key! It blocks their breathing pours. Hope this helps lots of people! I was amazed when I discovered it by accident.
@sjfarish4 жыл бұрын
Yes they work I have used them for years...
@chrisgarsee54804 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh I bought the same kind you did at the beginning of the season. I normally buy them from my garden store. That brand you got doesn’t have the secent for the male, it only has the one for the female. So went back and bought the one from the garden place. The one I bought is called Beetle Bagger it has a dual release floral and a pheromone lure. I’ve caught more with the one from the garden store. It seems to attract them better.
@jasonpinckney21784 жыл бұрын
Seen a few mention it, but ideally you want to get those bags a ways away from whatever your protecting. Those lures have a concentrated mating pheromone in them so they will attract every beetle in the area. I usually put them on the very outskirts of my property so it draws them away from my fruits and vegetables. Do love the tip about feeding them to the chickens though. That little tidbit will definitely save me a ton on meal worms and still give me almost thirty happy cluckers.
@enozzi14 жыл бұрын
LOVE THE NON CHEMICAL THANKS
@chelemichele15244 жыл бұрын
Dang that works great... they should sponsor you for such a great review of their product and showing it does work.. Maybe at the end of season you should see if you could get it cheaper and buy for next year. Have a good evening 🌻🌻🌻
@freedomranch52934 жыл бұрын
Thanks josh! I have been looking for a non chemical way to deal with them pesky beetles!
@user-pt6io2cq9n4 жыл бұрын
Milky Spore works great.
@duanemiller56064 жыл бұрын
I used those kind of traps seventeen years ago to get the beetles off my landscaping plants. I also got them off the neighbors plants across the street to the east of me. I would watch them fly over every time a breeze when by. You are right that they are grubs that live in the ground before emerging in adulthood as a beetle. The bad news about that is the grubs eat grass roots. Another problem is that they draw moles and the moles really do damage to the yard or field. It can also be dangerous for castle. The more you eliminate the better it will be.
@user-pt6io2cq9n4 жыл бұрын
Use Milky Spore.
@mr.monster62984 жыл бұрын
I went with the fruit and nut orchard spray. All organic. Use it right up tp harvest
@districtofcolumbia86592 жыл бұрын
I love how he throws that peach and SMOKES that chicken , and says he throws like a girl 😂😂🤣
@dyannevans91794 жыл бұрын
Well I've got same problem my trees are 4 year old and this was first year I had peaches. But the bugs Just totally ruined the trees. It was not the beetle . But it kill all the peaches . So I feel your pain. Ron.
@SouthernBlessedHomestead4 жыл бұрын
That was incredible, lot of dang beetles lol
@deanbarr57404 жыл бұрын
Awesome.. whatever it takes man.
@jimg82184 жыл бұрын
Very informative,THANKS
@batpherlangkharkrang79763 жыл бұрын
Hi..... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
@scottt84244 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh thanks for the video I enjoyed it and a friend of mine years ago had a bag like that similar but that was for horse flies and it does work because I seen it for myself and I didn't know that they make one for Japanese beetles and I didn't know how much damage Japanese Beatles can do up until now so great information to know for me for the future so thanks again
@benjaminstockton39174 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Josh
@sunlesssentinel53264 жыл бұрын
Does it really work long term though? Will it attract more to your property? What is its range?
@jessedejesus52864 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, when are you going to get to the Willis Jeep project? That's if your not to busy with the farm. Maybe a winter project. Take care.
@patriciamorlan64874 жыл бұрын
We have 3 different types of beetle traps, one we actually hang in the chicken coop cause it has a hard screw on catcher. Every day we empty it and the girls go wild and they know exactly what I'm doing when I walk to the trap. It helps if you dump and soak them in water first so they don't fly away before being consumed. Haven't found one trap that works better than another, they all work great, however, we have lures that have a plastic pouch with holes in that keep effective after rain. We use neem oil (75%) in conjunction with the traps but you have to reapply it after it rains, leaves turn bitter to them. With the neem we have found two treatments three days apart usually does the trick. It really helps if you treat them when you see the first one instead of after they are full force.
@hazel5553 жыл бұрын
Use a wide-opening plastic container with a bit of water inside and a couple drops of dish soap; hold underneath beatles on leafs, touch leafs, beatles drop straight down into water, drown. Also, fence around fruit trees, let chickens range within to control.
@yasminghani20734 жыл бұрын
Enjoy watching your video
@troyeager88774 жыл бұрын
I used one similar but different brand. They work great. I wish I would of put them out this year. The Japanese beetles about wiped out my zucchini.
@brianhillis37014 жыл бұрын
My father learned that you dont need the scent at all. Just hang the bag you will fill the bag almost daily. My wife and I have emptied them hundreds of times. The dead and dying beetles will stink terribly. The holes let rain out so branches don't break.
@randypopperwell21834 жыл бұрын
poke a hole in a paper plate run the bag hanger wire thru the hole and hang so if it rains the plate should shed the water
@eric88514 жыл бұрын
As stated before those bags will attract them to you. Yes many will end up in the bag however before they do they will feed and lay eggs perpetuating the issue for seasons. Place them away from your trees, close enough to draw them but not close enough to cause further damage. When I was in the AG industry I always told folks the best thing you can do is have your neighbor put then up, draw your beetles to them!
@rogerleiser62184 жыл бұрын
Where you been, I had them back in the 80's.
@polecat13374 жыл бұрын
love the seiko
@lisacastano10644 жыл бұрын
I need to get some of those we had them out here in January
@steveb61034 жыл бұрын
Happy chickens is a plus.
@rdnkrfnk4 жыл бұрын
Wonder iffn ya could take a old aluminum foil pie tin n punch a hole in the center and place a cpl inches above the trap on the twist tie forming a rain roof so to speak
@jjknowles73484 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of milky spore for control?
@snowrivereast67153 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@adamfuller54164 жыл бұрын
You can feed the Japanese beetles to your chickens. I do and they love them.
@autoadjuster4 жыл бұрын
Sure now you tell me, I pulled out my fruit cocktail tree last year, never produced ripe fruit. The peaches and other fruit would get holes all over and leak juice, then shrivel up and fall. I knew it was some kind of bug never thought about Japanese Beatles.
@garybonz4 жыл бұрын
Josh, what you mean is upwind.
@dawnnagy52822 жыл бұрын
Never hang traps in your precious fruit trees, it's much more effective to hang them as far as possible away from valuable plants and crops. You want to draw the beetles away. Plant four o'clock flowers as a sacrificial plant which they love but are poisonous to the beetles, plant onions in every garden bed- they hate them! Net favorite plants if you can (especially while they are producing flowers and fruit), use Milky Spore spring and fall and add beneficial nematodes which will eat the larva in the spring and fall when the ground is warm and wet. If you have a smaller plot of land go around in the early evening and knock the beetles into a bucket of soapy water. This is when they're slow and least likely to just fly away. Water only your crops and never your grass since they LOVE burrowing down in soft wet soil at night! Use diatomaceous earth around known nesting sites. It can take a couple years of diligent work to beat those bugs!
@brandonburdette78954 жыл бұрын
That is a great idea thanks
@gkiferonhs4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done bat houses to deal with the evening mosquitoes?
@TheFrankBarrett4 жыл бұрын
My son made some for our town parks for his Eagle project last year. They work great and keep the bugs in check.
@mindymcintosh98654 жыл бұрын
Will bees get killed with those? Will they work for other beetles as well? Like lily beetles..and cucumber beetles.
@janet89954 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip.
@Braedenfish3 жыл бұрын
Put a pin hole in a disposable plastic plate n run it thru bread tie to make roof for trap. Also drop the foil top and a rosebud in the bag.
@tomhatch22864 жыл бұрын
The bags use an attractant, put them away from the trees to keep the beetles from your trees.
@tisnotmy-name11804 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to the Glyph alternative follow up vid? Can you please let us know how that went?
@StoneyRidgeFarmer4 жыл бұрын
what is Glyph?
@maryrahal2263 жыл бұрын
Try Surround WP by NovaSource. It will repel Japanese beetles, cucumber beetles, allsquash bugs, grasshopper, and a whole lot more. I say this from my own use of it. The Japanese beetles hate it and won’t even land on my plum, apple, peach trees. I may get a few at the very top. It’s a clay that has to be mixed and sprayed on. You will have to spray the new growth and after every rain. You will say goodbye to those traps as I did.
@bradauringer48734 жыл бұрын
Hey Love the channel. Beautiful place you have. I like that shirt. Where can I get one.
@charlottesmart7504 жыл бұрын
Off grid with Doug and Stacey Made a great video about this you need to watch it. It killed there bug problems in there fruit trees
@whitedwarf293 жыл бұрын
the life cycle of the beetle has them in the ground for 11 months of the year so if you combine those with something like grub-be-gone applied to the soil and maybe watered in i think you will have even more success.
@DawnHarmanART_PHOTO2 жыл бұрын
How do you feed them to your chickens? Do you wait until they’re all dead and then put them on the ground or in a feed bowl.
@MrGoenes9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Why do the beetles fall into the bag? My guess would be that the bait is toxic to some degree.
@StoneyRidgeFarmer9 ай бұрын
not a toxic thing...beetles try and land on the bait, the plastic is too slick, they then fall into the bag and can't fly out...that's about it. Not a toxicity thing...a "beetles slip and fall" thing
@MrGoenes9 ай бұрын
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Thank you for your response. Why aren't they just flying out of that bag?
@LetsTalkGoats4 жыл бұрын
We put pie tin on top then the rain will not get in
@stressfreepaperchase32154 жыл бұрын
Smart!!
@SheepyHollowCanada4 жыл бұрын
Put a hole in a small meat pie plate and thread the bread tye through the center... makes for a roof over the lure.
@bretroberts5013 Жыл бұрын
I use bags and spray Neem oil on trees.
@thedungeon12884 жыл бұрын
I picked one up from a lawn and garden store the other day. They told me to hang it on the tree that you are trying to protect. They said hang it 10 feet away from the tree that you are trying to protect because they will still be a eating that tree if the bag bait is close to it.
@droid50 Жыл бұрын
Try Surround WP Crop Protectant it is Kaolin Clay a fine powder you spray on wet
@MrRbrgrn4 жыл бұрын
If that shirt was true there would be so many people in pain lol
@robperkins26743 жыл бұрын
look around
@AshleighPerrault5 ай бұрын
I have a dumb question, I want to feed these to my chickens. I'm just curious if the scent lure drips into the bag with the beetles, is it okay for the chickens still to eat? This is my first time trying this.
@StoneyRidgeFarmer5 ай бұрын
I havn't had an issue with it dripping into the bag....or any issue with the chickens...they go nuts when I put all that protein in the coop!
@AshleighPerrault5 ай бұрын
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer thank you! I wasn't sure it it was the lure that dripped in or the beetles making a mess inside the bag.
@jannerkev4 жыл бұрын
Hi from Torquay South Devon uk. Wooooo
@jpcoppock4 жыл бұрын
We had Japanese beetles very bad a couple of years growing up and my mom put those traps out. For a time it seemed like they were working, because every day we would have those bags FULL of beetles and we would put out new bags and they would fill up too. We later found out that none of our neighbors had a beetle problem... We were pulling them in from a huge area to those silly traps. They do work, but you need to hang them in the yard of your most hated neighbor, because he will have thousands, and you'll have none.
@artbyrobot1 Жыл бұрын
most places have woods nearby. But one there. Or hang one on a utility pole out of sight some