Get Sharp About Electric Car Tires or Throw Your Money Away

[@ArmageddonIsHere]

Tesla Model Y owner here. My original set of tires - Continental ProContact RX rated for 40,000 miles is now at 40,300 miles and still about 2 mm tread left above the on-tire tread depth indicator tab. I'll probably change to a set of Kumho Solus Majesty 9 TA 91 next. So, to all those hearing that "EVs chew through tires" I say: It totally depends on HOW YOU DRIVE!

[@GregMeghooOlympian]

Agree

[@ArmageddonIsHere]

@GregMeghooOlympian Seriously, you are THE Greg Meghoo? Jamaican Olympian, track and field?

[@scottbreseke716]

I have a Tesla Model 3. I have Pirelli P-Zero All Season Electric tires. The word "electric" is part of the description. They are doing really well after 6 months of use and evaluation. So I recommend these.

[@XX-166]

The tires fit and finish is better then your entire car.

[@webx135]

Nice! Has the snow traction been good? That's been my main problem with the ProContact RXs mine came with.

[@scottbreseke716]

@@webx135 I never see any snow at all in my northern California area.

[@scottbreseke716]

@@XX-166 I've received two different Model 3s now. In 2019 and in 2021. Neither of them had any fit and finish issues.

[@XX-166]

@@scottbreseke716 lucky you… those problems are WELL documented

[@lkeil84]

I put Pirelli P6 tires on my Ford Focus Electric when the original Michelin wore out near 35k miles. I rotated them every 6k miles and they wore perfectly. The Pirelli are a much quieter tire and range did not really change any noticeable amount. Now with over 30k on the Pirellies, they still look like they have a lot of life left in them with rotations every 10k miles. I am aware of the increased wear as when put down the peddle, the only noise I hear is the front tires ripping. So, I just drive very aggressively and the tires last far longer. I am hoping to get at least another 30k out of this $600 set of tires. My car only weighs about 400 lbs more than the gas version, so pretty close and load range is fine. I have zero complaints about this rather inexpensive set of tires.

[@nathangibson2114]

just got those handkook Evo on my model Y performance, yesterday. Huge reduction in road noise and feels way better on the road. I’m a fan so far.

[@seanjohn7802]

Still liking them? I have Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4s on my Model 3 Performance and need new tires. Was thinking of going for the Hankook EVO

[@nathangibson2114]

@@seanjohn7802 I'm still a big fan

[@easternyellowjacket276]

Good to hear. When my Continentals wear out, I'll look into those.

[@dmayfield125]

You must have aftermarket wheels, then, correct? Because their sizes don't fit the stock wheels.

[@nathangibson2114]

@@dmayfield125 nope. Fits the stock wheels on model y performance

[@CED.Dweller]

Always glad to see Cooley on CNET. He was my introduction to the CNET brand.

[@ksimm1986]

Same here. He's the best in the biz.

[@trevorberridge6079]

"EVs can weigh a thousands pounds more". More than what? All the heaviest cars are ICE cars with big V8 or V12 engines. The reason you never heard of noise reduction material inside a tire before is because ICE cars are so noisy that you wouldn't notice the difference. Also EV range has improved so much that you don't have to worry about rolling resistance so much these days. If you want to eek out the most range then low rolling resistance works for EVs and ICE cars just the same. It's not an EV only issue.

[@TronJockey]

So true. The "average" weight of the vast majority of EV's on the road is roughly 4100 lbs. These represent the vast majority of EV's - Chevy Bolt 3600 lbs. - Nissan Leaf 3450-3800 lbs. - Kia e-Niro 3900 lbs. - Hyundai Kona 3700 lbs. - Tesla Model 3 3550-4000 lbs. - Tesla Model Y 4150-4400 lbs. Yes there a few heavier EV's (like the Tesla Model S and X, Lucid and Hummer) but they constitute a tiny minority of EV's on the road. Consider that most Hi-performance gasoline vehicles are over 4000 lbs. The Camaro ZL1 starts at 4000 lbs, the Mustang GT500 at 4225 lbs, the HellCat at 4500 lbs. and various Dodge Chargers at 4,232-4,586 lbs. Now consider the majority type of vehicle on the road. Combined there are over 50 million gasoline and diesel pickup trucks, SUV's and minivans ALL of which start around 4000 lbs. and usually weigh substantially more than the average EV (yet no issues with parking decks or tire wear) - Chevy Colorado up to 6000 - Ford Ranger up to 5325 - Full Size ICE Pickups up to 6500 - Full size ICE SUV's up to 5500 - Mid-size Minivans up to 4500 - Full Size Minivans up to 5000 - Ford F-250 up to 6800 - Ford F-350 up to 8000 - RAM 2500 up to 7300 - RAM 3500 up to 7500 Consider as well the 100's of thousands of delivery vans (9,000 to 12,000 lbs.) and Class 7 box trucks (26,000 to 33,000 lbs). Diesel semis at up to 80,000 lbs. I could easily go on here. Obviously EV's do not weigh 1000 pounds more than comparable gasoline cars (especially when matching Hp and Torque). On average it's more like 10-15%. And the accusations that an EV’s weight causes accelerated tire weight is nonsense as their mass answers to the same laws of physics that much heavier gasoline vehicles do and they don’t experience accelerated tire wear

[@T1Oracle]

If you don't floor it at every stop, your tires will last longer.

[@XX-166]

Rolling resistance and tire pressure have more to do with that then flooring a cars gas pedal.

[@dagame81790]

And take all the joy out of owning an EV? psht, as if

[@SomewhereInTheSolarSystem]

Exactly, you can have better range too. I think the most important feature of the EV tire is the silence, if this feature is well resolved, I'm sure the other aspects are being taken care by the manufacturer.

[@T1Oracle]

@@dagame81790 after 30 MPH or so, flooring it shouldn't do much to the tires unless your going around a turn or you have a really powerful EV. So just save it for highway passing and keep everything else under the load limits of the tire.

[@T1Oracle]

@richardhardin9184 that will definitely do it. I don't use chill mode, but my tires made it to the advertised 50k miles.

[@6enhoj6]

Cooley is witty, succinct, reasonable, honest and of course, cool. 😎 I'd watch him review just about anything.

[@directorjustin]

They don't call him Cool-ey for nothing. 👍

[@6enhoj6]

@@directorjustin I've been a fan of his for years and am very disappointed CNET has reduced his visibility on projects and reports. I used to watch his segment on cars years ago. One of his best lines was something like, "This car is ugly at no extra charge." May not be the exact quote, but you get the idea. His reports were factual and if he didn't know something, he would admit it instead of wild speculations. The man speaks my language!

[@chrisbeale9022]

All automotive tyres wear most under braking. Relatively little wear happens under acceleration, when at constant speed or even in bends unless the car is powerful and being driven aggressively. In general EV wear tyres more slowly than ICE vehicles because regenerative braking is very progressive and of course many EV’s are driven relatively gently to extend range. I have an Ioniq 5 with 55,000 miles on the clock. There is still maybe 10,000 miles left on the original tyres and this is a 300ps four wheel drive car weighing 2.2 tonnes. It is driven ‘briskly’, but more or less within speed limits and I rarely need to touch the brake pedal other than for full stops. I fondly remember my 993 Turbo 4 that destroyed a pair of P Zero rears in 3,000 miles and fronts every 6,000, but that had roughly the same 0-60 performance as the Ioniq 5.

[@voxmobius]

Still on my 2015 e-Golf’s original tires so with 7+ years & at 65K+ miles on ‘em, tried looking for EV tires. Couldn’t find dealers listing LRR or load (HL) as filter. Tire dealers need to get in the game and add such filters to their websites.

[@mujjuman]

how much tread life do you have left?

[@scottkolaya2110]

0:32 EVs can weigh a 1,000 lbs more. Yea they can, but they usually don't. A Ford 150 Lightning weighs 1,000 lbs more than the equivalent gas version. But most cars do not. How about giving us the average, not the max. The average EV has about a 900lb battery (which includes structural components of the car), all new EVs that have skateboard designs use the battery case as the lower structural part of the car instead of doubling up on weight. Also, the electric drivetrain is much lighter than a conventional drivetrain, so the whole cars ends up being about 500lbs more on average or about 15%. A lot of times that's just the difference in model trim levels.

[@adriaanvantulpenbaard1740]

500lbs more for a low range model. If you need range you need bigger battery pack. Auto expert John Cadogan did a video about it that compared the same models of the same brands in combustion models and EV models which concluded that the weight of the electric car was higher by the weight of the battery pack. In other words if the battery pack was 850lbs then the electric version was also about 850lbs heavier. Also if the car is heavier the suspension parts needs to be heavier also to support the extra weight.

[@iggibars]

A whole LOT of what you just said is nonsense. There are PLENTY of EVs out there where their electrical components and batteries weigh 1000 or more lbs when compared to the counterpart. Those are all stats that can easily be looked up. Also, "all new EVs have skateboard designs"....LOL what???? In what world?

[@leetjohnson]

@iggibars he's right though. Due to the absence of a transmission, gas tank, engine, alternator, exhaust, etc. The Model 3 weighs 3,600 to 4,200 and a Camry weighs 3,300 to 3,600. Not that hard to do a simple Google search to see that you are wrong. Electric cars of the same size rarely have a 1,000lb difference in weight.

[@iggibars]

@@leetjohnson You are arguing and trying to make an uneducated point while referencing ONE example that is similar to that of an apple vs orange comparison. Why only compare a Model 3, which happens to be one of the lightest EVs on the road?There are A LOT of EVs on the road based on previous ICE vehicles, and the vast majority of them are significantly heavier than their gas counterpart. There are PLENTY of ICE-based EVs that way 1000 lbs more. You must not know how to read whatever it is you are searching.

[@leetjohnson]

@iggibars the original post wad referencing the aerage, not the most expensive or the heaviest. I referenced the #2 selling ev with one of the most popular gas cars made. Would you like to cite an extreme example to make your point, so that I can show you an ev with less than a 200lb difference, or are you going to understand nuance?

[@toyotaprius79]

Nikki Gordon Bloomfield of Transport Evolved covered the same topic, and revisits snow/winter preparation every year. A Finnish brand of snow tires are said to be the best out there for EVs.

[@toyotaprius79]

Nokian Hakkapeliitta

[@ChaimLoecher]

Agree- even if they are not the EV rated that CNET wants you to believe

[@chevalde31]

There are winter EV versions and I have them in Hakkapeliitta 10 EV studded and R5 EV friction top rated

[@vkratoch]

I agree with the other comments. For a small EV (Nissan leaf, kona electric) with over 175,000 km between them. I just bought Michelin summer tires when on sale and I had excellent results and longevity. (I do have a set of winter tires from previous ICE car) Large corporations will always hype and raise prices for a pr gimmick.

[@barryw9473]

Driving gently will make any tire last. I have 50,000 miles on the original set of Ecopia 422 Plus tires on my e-Golf and I expect to get another 10,000 miles out them.I do rotate every 10,000 miles.

[@garethrobinson2275]

Driving gently will make your life last longer. Well it will feel longer.

[@flyingjeff1984]

Also, added air pressure raises the hydroplaning speed.

[@kevinhaskins6619]

My 2018 Chevy Bolt is only 3500 lbs, so about what a premium version of the Honda Accord tags in at. It does have healthy torque relative to eco-cars but not compared to some of the vehicles in that weight class. I drive it mostly like a grandma so the torque is only there if you have your foot in it. I just put on some all-season touring tires and they are quieter than the LRR OEM Michelin tires. If there is a fuel economy difference, it is small enough for me not to notice and I pay attention. The Hummer or some of those other examples, is a point well taken.

[@VeniVidiVid]

The thing that would stop tire manufacturers from charging more for electric vehicle tires is other tire manufacturers. Higher prices tend to be a signal for other manufacturers to enter that segment.

[@practicalguy973]

Everything else is more expensive with EVs so I think the industry will enter that segment with much higher prices once everything balances out. There will be a lot of changes that EVs bring and unfortunately the big players will use this to make more money in every way they can.

[@walterwhite1]

@@practicalguy973 why is everything more expensive with EV? It’s been the best cheapest purchase of my life.

[@ohrosberg]

About rotating tires on EV's... The idea is good, but on most EV's, tire dimensions are different on the front wheels compared to the rear wheels. This varies, depending on whether you have two wheel drive or four wheel drive, on weight distribution, torque delivery and handling characteristics. So, don't rotate them without checking dimensions and what your specific EV is rated for. Here are some characteristics: Feature Front Tires Rear Tires Weight distribution Stronger tread and sidewalls Softer tread compound Torque delivery Wider tread pattern Narrower tread pattern Handling Stiffer tread compound Softer tread compound Personally, I would recommend leaving all tire related issues to the experts...

[@gregthompson7954]

Thank you i never rotate my tires its a waste of time plus tires aint the same from 50 years ago when you had to rotate them because they used to wear uneven

[@dboucher26]

I have a Tesla Model Y Long Range with acceleration boost and my wife has a Model 3 Long Range with acceleration boost. Both are quicker than my BMW M3. Spirited driving will chew the tires up. We're easy on the accelerator but it's good to know we can blast off like a fighter jet in a nano second if we have to.

[@hazembata]

Brian, you have a great knack for explaining things.

[@oldjoec3710]

Hybrids have a similar consideration. My 2015 Accord hybrid came with "Low Rolling Resistance" tires, that are probably pretty similar to the EV tires you describe. I replaced them with standard Continental tires of the same size, since new LRR tires would have been twice the cost of the Continentals. Even at 40 lbs inflation pressure, my fuel economy dropped by 8-10%.

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

Yeah, because they have actual grip instead of the hardness of a Fisher Price toy

[@oldjoec3710]

@@grigorioschristodoulou5229 - I agree that the traction of the LRR tires was slightly inferior to the new Continentals. (But not enough that I noticed before the change.)

[@mrlimey2419]

Ran PS4s until 29k, swapped to Hankook ION evo SL and the noise reduction, sidewall stiffness is noticable. Very impressive.

[@arikbord2256]

As to the last point, even if prices don't go up, tyre life may deliberately go down. If tyres are the only maintenance expense you have, tyre manufacturers may lower longevity so they have to be replaced more often.... It's happened before with so many other products designed for "planned obsolescence"

[@thatsawesome2060]

Cheap tyre for ICE already doing that for decades it's worn out fast, but we have options but be ready to fork out more for tyre like Michelin. When I gety new car it's come with Silverstone tyre that's last fir 2 years before I replaced it with Michelin that I still use regularly and still not wear out after 4 years.

[@pibblesnbits]

The EPA should step in on this. If rolling resistance is important, then longevity should be important. Both effect energy usage as manufacturing tires costs a lot of energy.

[@TheTruePrudentOne]

Great video, I always enjoy watch Mr. Cooley

[@andromedach]

So apparently Hankook paid more than a few large youttube channels for what is not much more than a giant ad.

[@ICDeadPeeps]

It's nothing new. A lot of big corporations do this in every industry, but now those dollars are moving over to TikTok.

[@sikhswim]

Exactly. Few ppl realize this!

[@arnoldmbuthia2687]

I noticed too.

[@uludak8468]

still peanuts compared to the propaganda from toyota and tesla who are lobbying on government level

[@TheOriginalBumper]

Agreed!!

[@rkgsd]

What we want is an actual comparison test of various EV-specific tires, not a promo for Hankook!

[@saggo1712]

Just put those Hankooks on my Model 3 Dual Motor. Absolutely brilliant!

[@sailing7seas]

I bought standard tires for my Bolt Big Mistake! My range went down 10 percent

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

Yeah, but at least the braking distance is also 10 miles shorter than those stone-hard EV tyres

[@sigma682]

Regular tire rotations are required if you’re trying to receive a credit for your worn tires before the rated mileage was reached. This is a manufacturer’s warranty that the tire shop gives you and instant credit when replacing tires. L

[@petiepablo]

I’m glad I watched this. I’ve seen Michelin on all teslas, but my new model 3 came with Hankook. I thought I was getting shortchanged but now that I’ve seen this video, I know I actually got the best possible standard.

[@musgawp]

Merry Christmas and thanks for all the brilliant entertainment.

[@SN-hn9zi]

Weird Hankook is in the background and was also the Engineering Explained video posted on same day…. Even the 4 points they make are the same…

[@s.d.2621]

Yeah, I was just thinking that I’m pretty sure I saw this same video yesterday from someone else

[@sikhswim]

Hankook paid PR, no doubt

[@renegadewolf2488]

And it is suggesting both these videos to me today.. on the same day

[@ABa-os6wm]

Yep. The tire companies want to milk the EV market like there's no tomorrow with marketing and market segmentation. It will peobably fail because: 1) EVs are getting lighter 2) people dont care about range on a daily basis.

[@alwaysplaythegame]

EVs vary just like conventional cars. A Chevy Volt isn't overly heavy nor fast. Any sedan tire will work fine. Sure, a low rolling resistance tire might add a bit of range, but it would also add 1 mpg or so to a typical sedan. More expensive tires are typically quieter as well and will make a difference in any car unsurprisingly. Also, any EV car will likely weigh similarly to an SUV, which the tires it uses will be designed to support.

[@CFG39]

It's amazing how much tires can affect range on EVs. Tires alone can make a 20-30% difference in range because rolling resistance is one of the main sources of energy loss in electric vehicles. I swapped Michelin Pilot Sport 4S out on my Model 3 Performance with the LR AWD 3's Tesla-spec Michelin MXM4 tires and saw a 23% improvement in range. Same thing with my EV6 GT. Went from Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric5 SUV to Hankook Ion Evo AS SUV and see a 30% improvement in range.

[@fredfrond6148]

@@CFG39 interesting. Did you change the outside diameter of the tires on any of the changes, because that I have heard changes the range.

[@CFG39]

@@fredfrond6148 they're exactly the same diameter, 29". Just different aspect ratio

[@Gordie009]

I am real happy with the PIRELLI P ZERO AS PLUS ELECT’S I purchased. So quiet, with increased range from the oem tires on my M3. It will be interesting to see how they do this winter in Michigan.

[@slowercuber7767]

Good points about efficiency and noise. 1:18

[@Jack45OG]

Hi! The recent price of Michelin Primacy tires for our 130,000-mile Tesla model S at Costco from two plus years ago saw the tire prices for the same thing rise from about $900 to $1100+. The house (business?) always wins. Get used to it.

[@RayNLA]

Everything has gone up in the last two years!

[@teslapped2709]

in my experience just stick with the tyres the car came with if you have to change tyres

[@XX-166]

They used the cheapest tires possible to save money. That doesn’t mean they’re the best choice.

[@bederhajali]

Michelin energy saver in the summer and Nokians in the winter. Did wonders for my 2017 ioniq ev which is advertised as 200km range. I got 270

[@toyotaprius79]

A criminally underrated car. Always efficient, good range, small battery that charged rapidly in a practical Prius-shaped body. But no, executives say consumers want gargantuan heavy things to compete with BMWs that make them feel special.

[@bederhajali]

@@toyotaprius79 couldn't agree more with you. It was a bit small for me because I'm a bigger guy but the range and efficiency was amazing

[@michaelgoode9555]

Our EV weighs less than most new gas vehicles that Americans buy. It is not set up to scream to 60 from standstill in the blink of an eye but rather to keep up with gas traffic. What the manufacturer has done is put ludicrously oversized low profile wheels and tyres on it. I am researching dropping the tyres from 19 inch to 17 inch rims and going from 50 to 60 sidewall ratio. This will reduce noise, increase ride comfort and potentially increase economy. Oh, and the tyres are 30% cheaper too like for like. I am just wondering how I can do this without invalidating my insurance here in the UK.

[@VShawnc]

You are sooo right!… it’s getting harder to trust anyone or anything you view on KZbin anymore.😢

[@RossMalagarie]

Brian pro tip you said most people don't rotate their tires, when the dealership changes your oil have them rotate your tires, my GMC dealership does it for free well its included in the $60 full synthetic oil change, that way its done on a regular basis.

[@Wee_L_LR]

Tyres are either rotational or have an inside/outside, why would you rotate them if your alignment is perfect?

[@RossMalagarie]

@@Wee_L_LR so they wear evenly on all

[@Wee_L_LR]

@@RossMalagarie surely if the correct pressures & alignment were set then it should wear even without rotating? This might be a US thing idk lol

[@RossMalagarie]

​@@Wee_L_LR tires tend to wear a little more or less inside, outside or all over compared to the other tires, like turning front tires compared to not turning rear tires, that why people rotate tires to try to keep the wear the same as possible so the alignment doesn't need adjusting, worn tires can make a car out of alignment and vise versa, an out of aligned vehicle can wear down tires unevenly. I guess non-US vehicles tire always wear evenly and get aligned regularly say with every oil change? Most don't rotate tire here in the US because its an added expense but since its free at my GMC dealership, (they say its free but the price is just added into the oil change like all "free" things, the price is just hidden). I know they are actually rotating my tires because I have a puncture in one of my tires and its a slow leak and I can monitor the slowly leaking tire, (about 1ib every few weeks) on my digital pressure readout on the driver display proving they moved the tire

[@chriauc2976]

Oil change and synthetic done for your pretty hands at a dealer near you seem like real though man …. You should get a ev you 80% there

[@sunrisejak2709]

I have 2 cars. A Tesla model 3 dual motor and a Mercedes C43. Both cars similar size and performance. The Tesla weighs 4,065 lbs, while the Mercedes weighs 4,084lbs. EVs do not necessarily weigh more than an equivalent ICE car. The tire wear on both cars is actually fairly similar. The Tesla runs higher inflation pressures but the ride quality does not seem to be negatively impacted.

[@CaryInVictoria]

The Volvo shown at 5:54 in not an EV! Horrors! As always, an informative and entertaining video.

[@russelldobie2489]

What about the all weather, all season, snow tire tread - what are the road condition ratings for EV specific tires?

[@patthonsirilim5739]

i put e primacy on my staria van and its great its super quiet and have good rolling resistance.

[@ralph4704]

Another way to shop for tires is to purchase truck tires. They are made for more weight and to resist the same factors the EV branded tires do, just a thought. Remember the SUV tire fiasco, Ford had years ago, due to regular car tires being used on the heavier vehicle? Another point is that my Volvo weights more than the "Y" model Tesla and I use Pirelli tires on it, they are hold up quite nicely,

[@B0r0]

They would be far noisier as they generally have a chunky tread.

[@jamess.6767]

Got 100k miles on my Leaf. On my second set of tires. Never rotate. They are fine. Brakes have yet to be changed. regen braking is the real deal!

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

To be fair, there are plenty of ICE light-duty vehicles that are actually heavier than the average EV, look at the IRS Section 179 rule for the $25k deduction on business-use vehicles - which must be 6,000 lbs (but under 14k lbs). I was surprised my Model Y is too light to qualify but my Pacifica Minivan does - too bad that is mostly a kid hauler/purse on wheels and not a legit business expense. LOL

[@georgepelton5645]

Good Video! Hopefully there will continue to be enough competition in the tire market to keep prices reasonable, even if they prices do rase a bit for extra capability of EV tires and for inflation. I predict this will be the case.

[@garethrobinson2275]

Yeah nice bit of FUD at the end there. Because there is hardly any service cost with an EV, tires will just get more expensive! Say what? 😂

[@unreconstructed9172]

Im not swapping tires for season anymore... I'll take the slight range reduction with the Michelin cross climate 2's. Im certainly not buying an EV specific tire until they get better with wet and snow traction performance. My oem Hankooks with my original tesla purchase are better anyways. I got over 50k out of them.

[@sotek2345]

I can't wait for more options to hit the market. Not thrilled with the performance of the stock all seasons on my Lightning, but there are no real good alternatives right now

[@wantsanewvehicle]

You could always get a different size wheel and tire setup :)

[@sotek2345]

@@wantsanewvehicle that is a lot more expensive, and there aren't that many EV friendly wheels on the market yet, so you get a bigger range hit.

[@bradhaines3142]

​@@sotek2345 ev friendly? any 'sport' wheel is going to be lighter, and would tell you the actual weight to compare to

[@robin2821]

@@bradhaines3142 Weight is one factor, but aerodynamics is also important. EVs are so energy-efficient that small things like this, which don't matter much for ICE cars, increase in importance. EV wheels can generally sacrifice airflow for improved aerodynamics because disc brake cooling is much less important given the availability of regenerative braking. Some such wheels would be unsafe in some conditions on an ICE car.

[@gllong71]

Within 9 months time; 8k miles… replaced the OEM Hankook tires, and again replaced the warranty set… all eight (8) tires suffered side belt. “Bulges”… these EV rated tires do not do well on Michigan highways. Most highways are riddled with bumps and cracks; causing a rough ride and extra stress on the tires. Unfortunately, I went ahead paid out of pocket for a different manufacturer. 22k miles later with no tire issues. If buying aftermarket tires, always consider the road hazard warranty! Especially when the manufacturer will not stand by their products… “cough!!! Hankook!” With all that said, tires are designed for vehicles as elaborately explained in the video, not around road conditions. Know your roads and seasonal conditions, find the dependable tires that keep you safe!

[@alliao82]

ev with regen means rear wheels are doing twice the work for accelerating and decelerating hence twice the wear.. rotate them!

[@bethmcguinn8606]

Thanks for the content. Can you say a little about snow tires for EVs and tire choices for plug in hybrids that are run mostly on electric?

[@bradhaines3142]

plug in mostly on electric you need to drive more often otherwise the gas in it will gel and ruin the motor

[@slowercuber7767]

0:47 yes the hummer EV does weigh about twice what my car weighs, though my car is also an EV. GM panders to the prodigal consumer.

[@BartSantello]

FISKER worked with Bridgestone to develop a suitable tire for their Ocean model (22"-wheels)

[@CamKrazy2000]

THANK YOU for saying EVs don't have to have "electric car tires". I saw pre-mature wear problems when the first gen Prius came out in 2001 in the US. You had to get EXTRA LOAD tires for it. It could wear out standard load tires to the cords in 10K miles especially if you didn't rotate them. Tire companies came with with EV tires to make more money, that's the main reason. You just gotta know the tire specs which most people don't.

[@Kryojenix]

It’s interesting to see Hankook in the thumbnail. They sponsored Engineering Explained‘s video on the exact same topic.

[@nancyboundsinteriors]

My Tesla Model Y weighs about 4300lbs, the car it replaced weighed 3700 empty fuel and my Toyota Tacoma weighs 3850. The Tesla is not that much heavier considering that the others will carry about 120 lbs of fuel. The real reason a Tesla will wear tires quickly is the temptation that one feels when the guy in the loud muscle car pulls up next to you at the stoplight which I have been guilty of.

[@sambira]

The weight is not that big of a deal. It is the torque that really gets the tires because no matter how gentle you push the accelerator, you're going to get that instant torque which will wear the tires more. I like the comment on tire cost in the future and I agree. If the big expense on your vehicle is just tires, they will raise the price.

[@KADWAR]

How should I rotate my tires if the tires are different sizes in front and back? Also you should do a video on spare tires for an emergency as none of these cars come with a spare.

[@Babyrocko1908]

Rotate the rears left/right and fronts left/right.

[@Momo_8k]

And rotating them side to side ONLY WORKS if they’re not directional tires. If you see any writing on the side with the word “rotation” and an arrow symbol, your tires are directional and would only be rotated from front to back. Which you obviously cannot do since your tire sizes are staggered. As far as your spare tire comment - if you really need one, I would buy a single wheel and tire and keep it in your trunk. But if you’re good with tire monitoring yourself, you may never run into an instance where you absolutely need a spare tire.

[@patty109109]

You don’t/cant.

[@MH-Tesla]

I've got a Tesla model 3 std range. It's only 100lbs more than a Toyota Camry.

[@cjonesplay1]

Same wear and tear on my Tesla Tires as any other vehicles I’ve owned. For the last 25 years. This isn’t True at All.

[@ddb5736]

Want to clarify that EVs are NOT that much heavier than their ICE vehicles counterparts. If you are not sure, search online for the weight of any EV and the weight of other vehicles that are similar in size and function. In my case, I used to lease the Lexus IS350 F-Soort all the time. I moved to owning a Tesla Model 3 Performance, and everybody said the Tesla will be extremely heavier. Not so, it is only about 180 lbs or so heavier which is just the weight of an average adult person. As for EV rated, it will depend of what type of EV you get so don't be obsessed about getting only EV rated tires. And finally, about the noise reduction foam inside: it is good for NOTHING. Many tests has been done and the difference in sound is barely noticeable as measured by electronic noise detection equipment. And worse, if you get a nail on your tire, most tire shops will not latch it if it has the foam which is stupid as they could take more a small section of it where the nail is, clean it as they always do before patching, and place a patch. It will not throw the wheel/tire out of balance in most cases. Solution: stay away from the foam. That is the first thing I did to my Tesla, I replaced the original wheels with aftermarket ones with tires that are EV and sports rated without the foam. Very happy with them 2 years later still. And one more thing, rotation... Do it only if the tires are the same all around, but if you have staggered wheels like the new Tesla Model 3 Performance, rotation cannot be done. Cheers.

[@271830066]

HELP! What is the best way to extend range of a EV CAR? Should I change registration from HIGH to LOW when I’m traveling on the road or keep it in HIGH generation mode. What do you suggest?

[@indietonne]

The HL-tires work great. My M3 Tesla has much less tire wear than any of my previous cars. I also see the different types of punishment on any tire… 😂

[@husnainanwaar1992]

keep tire pressure to 45psi

[@toyotaprius79]

It helps, for normal driving. It will change the driving characteristic of the whole car if you want to push its limits. As long as the psi isn't at or exceeding the pressure maximum on the tire sidewall there shouldn't be any danger.

[@Wee_L_LR]

Don't do this lmao

[@UTArch1]

@@Wee_L_LR Tire Rack included a note with just purchased set of 4 new tires for my Tesla model S. It said "Inflate to 45 psi".

[@XX-166]

Not a good idea nor does that work in all climates.

[@donaldstinnett5630]

@@XX-166 My Model 3 says to inflate to 42psi. That's what I do, and the two sets of tires I've bought so far have done fine.

[@rickjames5998]

A RARE COOLEY SIGHTING. why does this man disappear so long?

[@wilvaro1979h]

TriStar all season tires . Cheap but quality I had it on my TM3P since October last year passed Autumn and Winter and Rain 🌧️ with good grip . Il swap the tires on October and change every 2 years since the 4 20 inch tires don’t cost too much . Thank me later 😂

[@hereigoagain5050]

"Energy sapping marshmallow" perfectly describes me!

[@g-forcepcrepair4347]

we need more videos with Cooley in them !!!! his a pioneer !!!

[@thumper5555]

Really interesting video. I didn't realize EVs worked best with different tires. And I didn't know EVs weight so much more.

[@ipcamtalk4314]

They dont work best with different tires. Most of these EV tires give up grip on dry wet snow for range. This could make the difference between an accident or a near miss.

[@pepeshopping]

It’s ignorant people like you that must wait for a run of the mill KZbinr to exaggerate and pretend to tell them how things work…that our current world is upside down.

[@ipcamtalk4314]

​@@pepeshopping Its nasty people like you who make the world a nasty place. Who made you so angry?

[@Aircam73]

With a comparable car they are usually only a couple hundred pounds more. For example a Toyota Camry weights in on average 3,450lb while a Tesla model 3 which is slightly larger would weigh on average 3,750lb.

[@MrGardoPR]

@@Aircam73 You are comparing a mid size sedan with a compact car, the correct comparison would have been a Model 3 and a Corolla which weights 2,955 lb.

[@speedymccreedy8785]

EVs use tires around 35% more then ICE tires for the same distance, this could have been mentioned.

[@Just_Rick_137]

Great vid. I learned something new 👍

[@Resist4]

On the topic of tire rotations, it's funny how Tesla used to recommend rotations at 10,000 to 12,000 miles, then later reduced it to 6,250 miles. It's like no one at Tesla knew enough about auto tires to realize they need rotating on any vehicle, to get the longest life out of them.

[@eivindvh87]

You dont need «ev tyres». All tyres come with a load rating. You need a good tyre that handles, stops quickly and remove water efficiently - with the correct load rating for whatever car you have.

[@Ladykyra101]

Thanks for this video. Tires are really something to think about. Geez, wonder how much these things will be? 🤑

[@andyroid7339]

I wonder if you might have added the regen braking wear on EV tyres - in an ICE car the braking is less as the car slows to lights and junctions. In an EV, especially with the highest level of regen selected, this slowing happens over a shorter distance, causing more wear. Great for the range, not so for the tread.

[@andrewbell8837]

Regen braking wear on tires? How is braking less on an ICE car, it is wearing out the brakes and the effect of braking on either car would be the same.

[@andyroid7339]

@@andrewbell8837 I don't think so. Regen is akin to braking hard to a stop compared to coasting to a stop. This is not simply the equation for stopping a mass from a certain velocity, it's the time taken/allowed, to stop. On an atomic level, I guess the way the friction breaks down the rubber compound - the heat created by the resistance, stripping off electrons. less heat = less breakdown of the compound. Maybe consider the situation in reverse - hard acceleration = hard wear (which is also a thing with EVs). The i-pedal mode in my EV6 is fairly harsh. There's no gliding to the lights on this setting.

[@sirmanni4534]

Is the other channel Roadcars still on? I like the way you present the tech. You’re the best. Cheers

[@andrewsaint6581]

Interesting points gathered in a short video. Nice.

[@davidjamgochian]

Happy Holidays

[@Adubbstep]

this guy is a vampire.

[@LBYINCHINA]

Although the EV tuned tires are expensive, they are worth the money. The overall energy (money) saving over the life of the tires will pay off the price difference.

[@RAYDEEY17]

I was thinking the same thing. Most car KZbinrs are talking about this

[@gorrilaunit99]

*So what is everyones favorite budget tire brand?* I like Petlas (summer) and Cosmo (all-seasons) A LOT

[@andrewbell8837]

Michelin. Family owned since the invention of pneumatic tires. By michelin.

[@eltonray2934]

1. Rolling resistance: Less is more efficient for any round object, bearings, tires, etc. - Just ask the railroad. 2. Grip: Varies with surface conditions, limits torque on tires on all vehicles. - A good driver adjusts for conditions, everything is not a race. 3. Tread Wear: Mostly controlled by driver. Drag Racers burn up a lot of tires. Most good tires have a tread wear warranty. By specifying certain types of tires EVs try to get better mileage and possibly range to compete. These tires would help any vehicle increase efficiency.

[@brandoncarter2708]

I don’t see the point of paying 1600+ for a special set of tires if you’re just going to burn through them every 30k miles. I got a set of 4 installed for 500 on my model 3 performance work just as good as the stock ones 😅

[@rc211v5]

I agree which tire and what size did you get I have a model Y. performance... And I'm also looking to square them off

[@justrandomthings319]

Cut it out. A $500 dollar store tire does not work as well as a Pilot Sport AS or equivalent.

[@jackkern1215]

Suggest you might want to take an economics course. Car prices go up when financing goes down because demand goes up as more people can afford the payments. And yes you can expect EV tires to cost more because they cost more to make as you carefully detailed.

[@Jb008]

Dont fall for this new bs. Ev tires are stiffer and have less tread depth. The range savings and marginal improvement in nvh is not worth having to replace your tires more often. Go for cheap good performance, and long lasting tires

[@thebrandonw2742]

Agreed. I just run continental Extreme Contact DWS on my Model 3 Performance, and there's really no difference in noise level and I'm getting very good life out of the tires. They're barely below 50% treadwear now in 21k miles. The tires are supposed to last typically 45-50k miles so that's about on par with regular cars. I also have a lead foot and auto-X and launch it a lot for fun. EV special tires aren't needed. Maybe in the future they'll be waaaay better and worth it, but not right now they aren't.

[@BradfordNeedham]

Attractive ideas - I'm looking forward to the studies that show whether the tire changes make any difference, or whether it's just hype.

[@nickkincanon4582]

More Brian Cooley please. He’s the best.

[@Yeahyeah-ic8xm]

Like how they show the i3 when talking about using regular car tires instead of electric specific tires - there’s no other car made that has that tire size.

[@Mr5Stars]

One of the best KZbinrs from day 1

[@ChaimLoecher]

Clearly you don't own the vehicles CNET is talking about

[@logikgr]

Internet legend.

[@peteroffpist1621]

Depends on driving style. Drive less aggressive and EV tires last even longer then a ICE car.

[@asazad]

This guy was an EV hater until it was foolish to be one. 😅

[@garethrobinson2275]

Good point but it was always foolish. 😂

[@ekimandersom4478]

It still is foolish

[@jamie.777]

That aged nicely, how is the cybertruck working out? Where are all the tesla taxi 🚕 😅😅😅??? So when will a semi EV be able to handle more weight than cheetos or chips. EV is a yuppie car, and now there being laughed 😂at with cybertruck

[@asazad]

@@jamie.777 according to the dictionary, a yuppie is a young college-educated adult who is employed in a well-paying profession and who lives and works in or near a large city. I’d rather be a yuppie than a dumb uneducated hick

[@bshah4831]

Not sure about weight. My BMW i4 is only a bit heavier than my Alfa Romeo Giulia QV, which by the way has similar wear to my BMW!. I think you are exaggerating the differences. SUVs are also heavy.

[@SeanPurdy-f5u]

Yeah, I could see the use of fear tactics in this and I called BS on all of this because cars used to be a lot bigger and heavier boats back in the day and those tires held up just fine

[@mahfah7911]

Brian Cooley always bring something to teach and or insight to the matter. It’s always a Like from me. Man is a goat in this game

[@mattho6015]

Makes sense. Thanks!

[@mikeg3810]

More money. Tires more expensive. Insurance a lot more expensive. More expensive to fix an ev especially the body in a major accident.

[@sziltner]

Great video. 👍🏻 Tnx and Merry Christmas.