Are EV-Specific Tires Better than Popular Non-EV Tires? - 2024

[@tirerack]

At 23:34, the 'Top Tires on The Track' graph's smaller heading should read: 'Subjective Averages Based on Braking Behavior, Steering Characteristics, Cornering Traction, and Handling & Balance,' instead of 'Averages Braking, Skidpad & Lap Times Out of 10'.

[@smc1377]

I feel like the most important factor is missing...longevity. We need to know how fast each tire wears out.

[@koryleach9660]

This is EXACTLY what I'm wondering about.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for your comment! Evaluating longevity is outside the scope of our normal testing, but like any tire, the miles you get from your tires will be strongly dependent on the way you use them. We are always looking for ways to improve our testing methods and will share your feedback with our tire testing team!

[@smc1377]

@@tirerack I understand longevity is outside normal testing. It's just that when you're specifically testing EV tires, longevity SHOULD be included in the testing cause that's like the biggest complaint from EV owners is how short the tire life is. They're not complaining about grip at the limits or road noise, they are complaining about tire life. So if you're going to have a test about EV specific tires, it should address EV specific issues. Just like if you're going to test off-road tires, the tests should address issues specifically experienced by offroaders. Or if you're gonna test drag radials, your tests should address the issues drag racers have with tires. You wouldn't just perform the standard tests on them.

[@GreenDriveIndia]

In India , our ev group noticed atleast ev tyres lasting 50% extra miles with same tyre and similar type of vehicle . Reason may be linear acceleration of our Nexon ev. If acceleration is not smooth then story will be different. One guy has run 140000 miles on stock tyres

[@aksheykapoor]

@@GreenDriveIndiawhat ev group? How do I join?

[@najSWE]

I don’t like tests where the testers know which tire is being used. They should refer to them as tire 1 or tire 2, etc. At the end, they can find out for themselves which tire was which. There’s a Swedish magazine that did a speaker cable test where three experts were invited to bring their best speaker cables, and the magazine also included their new super-duper special cables that they had selected. None of the experts knew which cable the others brought. The only thing they were told was whose cable was plugged in, but nothing more-like the brand or if it was custom-made. They sat in a room and just listened, deciding which of the four cables sounded best. When everything was finished, all three experts agreed that the magazine’s speaker cables sounded far superior. When the magazine revealed the cables, the experts felt tricked. They had been told the magazine’s cables were brand new and extremely expensive. In reality, the magazine had chosen a lamp cord that cost less than 0.5$ per meter. The other cables were valued at over 400$ per meter or more. So, what can we learn from this? Well, if the testers know or think they know something about how good a product is during the test, it will influence them no matter what they believe. If the magazine had told them there was a lamp cord in the test, none of the experts would have ranked it first. It probably would’ve come in last. Over and out from me 😉

[@rockymntdan1]

Thanks, you guys and you're "no nonsense" simple drive test, convinced me Goodyear El. Drive 2. The smiles on your faces said it all.

[@daedricmode6427]

Thank you Tire rack team! I CAN'T WAIT for part 2 of winter testing, I've been reading forums and seeing new tires pop up such as the good year electric drive 2 just researching the perfect tires for me almost every one on this list was in my radar and I'm just happy to see the results and effort and time that go into theese videos exceeded my research I got an idea which tire that is EV and NOT EV that is right for me. Really Narrowed it down THANK YOU!

[@tirerack]

We are SO happy to hear this video hit the mark for you! We've revamped our tire tests for the 2024 season, so stay tuned for my tests like this one!

[@teslasnek]

Just replaced the tires on my wife's 2019 Tesla Model 3 Long Range RWD. They lasted over 45,000 miles, and she drives aggressively! Nokian One All-Season tires. Also have them on my 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance and they are super efficient. Combined with my aftermarket 19 inch Aero wheels, they improve my range by 8% to 340 miles! I drove from Chula Vista to San Luis Obispo on a single charge last year (330 miles). Video proof on my channel 😎

[@aaronbounds1336]

Wow! Nice. Have you tried the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires? If so, what is your experience with them?

[@teslasnek]

@@aaronbounds1336 my father-in-law had them on his Tesla- they didn't last nearly as long as the Nokians, and his efficiency was way worse too 😕

[@GustavusA355]

Rotate regularly?

[@teslasnek]

@@GustavusA355 yes

[@cellman1829]

This makes me happy to hear!! Especially since saying your wife drives aggressively and you also have a performance. I took delivery of my refreshed M3 LR in March I love the car!!! My first EV and it is ridiculously fast I don't always floor it but I also want to enjoy the car. Right now it came with the Hancooks so I will see how long these last. I've never heard of the tires you have, I will have to try them out when mine needs replacement. Thank you for your comment. Phoenix AZ

[@TinkerTry]

This is a great video - entertaining and informative, a rare combination. No shouting or fancy thumbnails needed to draw my attention, as an EV technology nerd & owner. Thank you!

[@tirerack]

Thank you for taking the time to leave this comment! We truly appreciate the feedback.

[@wingedwheelerth3107]

I just bought and installed from Tire Rack the Goodyear electric drive 2’s for our Bolt EUV based on this fantastic video.

[@tirerack]

We are so happy to hear that! You'll have to let us know what you think.

[@johnbcardin]

I'm sorry to hear that. I did the same thing and they couldn't be farther from what TireRack described in terms of comfort.

[@ciccio383]

Nice video, but i find quite confusing testing AllSeasons EV tires vs summer tires, it’s impossible to get a comparable result.

[@tirerack]

Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! The warm weather performance results are directly comparable between the All-Season and Summer tire options in the video. Once the weather turns cold, though, the summer tires would have to go into storage, and the driver would switch to a dedicated winter option. This method would deliver the best possible traction year-round.

[@ddb5736]

Thankfully, as soon I got my 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance delivered, I replaced both the tires and wheels with the aftermarket Arachnid staggered wheels that are much lighter than the Uberturbines (stock) and got them with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires without the noise reduction foam. Best investment ever for my Tesla. 2 years later and the tires still have life left...

[@darinbrazil5496]

Why didn't you compare the Michelin primacy OE spec tire?

[@musk-eteer9898]

i was hoping as well

[@tirerack]

Hi! Thanks for your comment. For our comparisons that use the Model 3 test vehicles, 235/40R19 is the tire size we use. The Michelin Primacy MXM4 OE tire is only available in the 18” OE size - 235/45R18. Of course, the one notable exception to this is the Goodyear EcoReady from this test. 235/45R18 is the only size it’s available in that fits on our Model 3s. We’ve tested the OE Primacy MXM4 in the past, and that test can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaWzd2mQba9_jsk

[@jestronixhanderson9898]

Long trips, run higher pressure, sacrifice grip for efficiency. My favourite tyre is the old Yokohama Advan Neova AD08R , super quiet, phenomenal dry traction. Super quiet too.

[@donaldhill414]

Great work Tire Rack! Best EV tire comparison I've seen yet.

[@tirerack]

We are so happy to hear that! Thank you.

[@omelborpon3159]

Really want to see how the "new" North American version of Michelin Cross Climate 2 stacks up. Prior to January of 2024 the North American CC 2 was a great tire, but had high rolling resistance. In 2024, the new iteration of the CC 2 seems to be the Michelin CC 2 tire that has been selling in Europe, and per Consumer Reports the 2024 CC 2 has fairly low rolling resistance, and is still an excellent tire.

[@cgamiga]

My CC2s are from 2021, and initially they reduced range a bit/increased Wh/mi slightly but was also cooler weather/more heater use... later, I am back to normal, either from slight breaking in or better weather... happy with them

[@normt430]

Michelin says their tires today are the best. No need for special EV tires.

[@Cooley93]

​@@normt430 I worked at Tesla and worked with all the tires companies. The best tires are Michelin, Continental, Goodyear. They put in the must amount of work to make sure their tires work for EVs

[@subbiahpalani]

CCS2 is costing me about 30% penalty on my consumption from OE Alenza Is there source to identi 2024 change. I can’t find anything

[@markray8629]

I have the CC2 circa 2022. Lost about 30% range, but it’s king in the rain and snow. Depends on your needs, I’ll be going back to a more EV focused tire tho

[@davesax11]

Best point of article is that its about safety and durability ALL SEASONS, not just efficiency or dry stopping distance. Tire comparisons should include durability and wet skid pad ratings, along with winter performance when possible. Is a BA rated tire like the Michelin CC2 tire acceptable?

[@tirerack]

Hi! Thanks for your comment. We compared the CrossClimate2 to the OE Michelin Primacy here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaWzd2mQba9_jsk. We will also test the winter performance of all the non-summer tires in this test later on in early 2025. We will be sure to make a new video and report with those results.

[@dmandn]

How does the Pilot Sport 4s compare with the EV/Tesla special edition Pilot Sport 4s?

[@tirerack]

That's a great question and we will keep that in mind! Unfortunately, we’ve never tested the Tesla Original Equipment version of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, so we don’t know how the two compare head-to-head.

[@PygKLB]

I have Vredestein Quadtracs on my model Y and have been pleased with their ride and longevity. They would be good to include in a follow up video.

[@tirerack]

We appreciate your feedback!

[@jefferrrson1x]

Thanks for the research and testing! Def saved the results for my MYLR when it’s time to change the tires for the first time.

[@tirerack]

Of course! Happy to hear this video hit the mark for you.

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

Why did you choose to not include the Michelin CrossClimate2 from this comparison?

[@hermanjohnson9180]

It's one of the best overall tires you can get for any automobile for inclement weather. However it's not specifically made for EVs and in fact serve poorly due to the unique needs of an electric vehicle. EVs need something to maximize range. And also something uniquely made to handle unusually high amounts of torque combined with above average weight for a car. The trick is doing all of this while maximizing the range of the vehicle.

[@davidbuccini9931]

I have the Michelin cross climate twos on my Chevy bolt in my Tesla model three best tires you can buy

[@tirerack]

Thanks for your comment! We’ve tested the CrossClimate2 on our Teslas in the past: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaWzd2mQba9_jsk and kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5q0faZ6qKyCi9E. This time around, we decided to include other options that we haven’t tested yet.

[@olivernasi]

@@tirerack in that test (your first url) , CC2 had 124 feet as a 50-0 mph. So that would means it's worst than any of the listed tires in this video which I cannot imagine.

[@tomwojcik7896]

it's great that you included tested efficiency (and so predicted range) of these tires - this info is otherwise hard to find. TireRack should include this spec for each tire. it would be an important factor for comparing tires to buy for people who care about their EV range or fuel efficiency.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. We are always looking for ways to improve our testing and will be sharing your feedback with our team!

[@CasaManNL]

These guys feel tires like a sommelier tastes a fine wine.

[@tirerack]

What a great comparison 😂

[@rocket3man]

@@CasaManNL i can relate that, frankly it all got quite blurry for me so I like your comment.

[@GXKid06]

I currently have the ev focused hankook ion summer tires, ive also had firestone indy 500s and continental extreme contact sport 02s and honestly i like the indy 500s the best.

[@tirerack]

Thanks for your comment. The Indy 500s are a classic!

[@dmandn]

@@GXKid06 Although not Ev tyres, I compared Hankook tyres on my last car (VW Jetta) with Michelin Pilot Sport 3s and 4s.... I found the Hankook tyres ok while new but after a little over 12 months, they had hardened and no longer seemed to grip well. They had ok wear but nothing compared to the Pilot Sport tyres. I don't remember the model of Hankook but they were the model that VW likes to ship their cars with. See how the Ev tyres go, I'm half expecting the same issue.

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

The Turanza EV came as OEM on my 2023 BMW 330ex and I can't wait to replace them.

[@fiehlsport]

Are they also runflats?

[@ernjrod]

What size wheels were used in the testing? Thank you!

[@Il_l_YA]

All 19'' except the GoodYear EcoReady ones wich were 18''

[@manny41p]

Living in Chicago, all of this is insignificant if the tire can’t take on a pothole or at minimum last 50k miles. How you test that I have no idea but wish it was part of the testing. Doesn’t matter how well it does in the rain if it explodes when driving into a puddle that turns out to be a sinkhole 🥲

[@dmandn]

@@manny41p Try the Michelin tyres. They seem to hold up well, if there are sufficiently rated Primacy tyres, they won't be as grippy as the Pilot Sport, but last a bit longer. The Pilot Sports still last a reasonable time, though I haven't hit 50k on the Tesla yet. Done over 100k km on the set of the VW and they still have tread, but it is a bit lighter and not Ev. I think 100k km is roughly 60k miles....

[@KP-xi4bj]

No Continental DWS 06+ in the test?

[@davesax11]

Please include the Michelin Cross Climate 2, and discuss the relevance of the BA rating. Also, Pirelli P Zero all season and Pirelli P7 all season. Also, what about squaring staggered tires? eg putting 245s all around rather than 255s on back, per BMW.

[@tirerack]

Hi there! We wish we could test every tire, but unfortunately there has to be a limit just to keep a test manageable and consistent. The Pilot Sport All Season 4 is by far the more popular choice for EV drivers, so that is the option we selected for this test. Hopefully in the future we will include the ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus in one of our EV-focused tests.

[@davesax11]

@@tirerack Yes, the Conti DWS 06 should be compared, as well as the Michelin Cross Climate 2. Your long term comparisons should be done @ 50% wear.

[@FrederickGFX]

I wish we didn't have to wait for winter results! I'm going to buy new tires before it gets cold and it feels like a guessing game. Also, an acceleration test would have been nice! My Lexus RZ came with summer tires, and even with those it struggles with traction off the line. I'm concerned that I'll lose a lot of acceleration with an actual EV tire.

[@JorJorBinks123]

Depending on which tire you get you may gain grip. No two tires are the same. For example the Toyota GR86 came with a Turanza Summer tire that had laughably low grip. So who knows until you know! You know?

[@thomas20021234]

i was using bridgestone potenza sport (15000KM) for my model y and compare to the hankook S1 evo3 (T1), there is around 10%-15% more consumption when i using the bridgestone compare with the hankook, of course the performance is day and night, potenza sport is a top street tyre and they handle far more better than the hankook, in the end it really depends what type of person you are. Hankook can handle everyday driving with less noise better range, but if performance is what you looking for, non ev focus of course are the winner. btw ev focus tyre tend to last longer as some of them reinforced the tyre to handle the heavy weight.

[@ngarci8040]

I have NEVER seen the winter test reviews, no playlist no nada…!!!

[@phildavis9671]

When you’re testing the tires, do you use manufactured suggested pressures from Tesla or do you use the tire manufacturer suggested pressures?

[@tirerack]

Hey! Thanks for your comment: We always use the placard-indicated pressure for our test vehicles. That is the specified inflation pressure for the vehicle based on the tire size. The only “suggested” pressure from tire manufacturers is the Max PSI listed on the sidewall, and that should not be mistaken for a recommended pressure to use during operation.

[@viennarosephotography7784]

Would have loved to see a noise ranking for them! : )

[@tirerack]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. We are always looking for ways to improve our testing and will be sharing your feedback with our team!

[@cyberchriz]

Waiting for the snow test!!

[@SkaBob]

We had 53k miles on our Ioniq 5 original tires when we took them off still had some life in them but we moved to 18s for a better ride. Just bought low cost goodyear non EV tires and have they been fine, no difference in noise than the original foam filled tire and the foam came loose in our original tires and caused a hard vibration. I would not buy foam filled tires for just that reason.

[@Cooley93]

The foam had gotten a lot better. I worked at Tesla working with all the tires companies. They are very diligent when it comes to perfecting their products.

[@NoteAndroid]

Comfortable, soaked, forgiving, well rounded, soft, quiet, bumpy....half way through the video I thought I was in the Sonoma vineyards getting drunk all over again.

[@darkcarnival5207]

I came across Sailun Trezzo EV tires when I needed a couple fronts for my ICE Hyundai Sonata a little more than a year ago. They were up front that they were designed for the excessive weight of cars with EV batteries, had less rolling resistance to counter the weight but that there was no reason you couldn't put them on an ICE vehicle safely. About a month later I noticed the back tires were about due so I went and got another pair. These have worn like iron and there's no noticeable difference in anything about these tires. Oh, and the best part? They were a shade under $100 each plus balance and install.

[@Amiel20]

All this information confirms what I always thought. It's important to invest in good, gripping tires.

[@olivernasi]

There is any plan to test Vredestein's Quatrac Pro EV which is also a dedicated EV AS tyre or Hankook ION Flexclimate SUV?

[@FeiraxIS350]

I have a 2018 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD. The car came with Michelin MXM4 which I replaced with Continental DWS-06+ and feel the Continentals were better in every way. I recently replaced them after over 52,000 miles and my trip meter happened to be at 13,800 miles when I I replaced them, indicating an average of 250 wh/mile. I replaced them with Hankook Ion Evo As because I was curious about them after seeing them on Engineering Explained. After another 13,800 miles with the Hankook i am averaging much higher wh/mile. The Hankook seems to be more efficient than the Continental in the warm weather but much worse in the cold weather. It is a nice tire and quiet but the Continental DWS-06+ is sportier and more fun and better in the snow and has better turn in and hydroplane resistance. I really like the DWS-06+ for its value and how well rounded it is.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

I have them on my VW. Continental really has impressed me with it.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for sharing your experience with us and the community!

[@junegastilo3951]

What about tread life and price comparisons. Seems like tire life would be low with all that weight and torque.

[@mcsike7264]

Depends on how you drive if you drive aggresively ya they not gonna last long but normal some get 40k miles out of em

[@karlInSanDiego]

But which ones last the longest? That is the critical factor. These EV tires all wear out far too quickly and cost a lot.

[@tedhu262]

Hankook rated for 50k

[@tirerack]

Hi there! Evaluating longevity is outside the scope of our normal testing, but like any tire, the miles you get from your tires will be strongly dependent on the way you use them. We are always looking for ways to improve our testing methods and will share your feedback with our tire testing team.

[@MrGoogle87]

I’d like to see a 3-pmf rated “real” all season tyre test for EV’s (tesla model 3/Y as test car)

[@tirerack]

We have a video in the works right now that you should enjoy. Coming soon!

[@MrGoogle87]

@@tirerack aww great!

[@peteschneider5842]

The ProContact RX (T1) doesn't seem to exist anywhere I'm looking, at least not in any size that fits Model 3. Was this a pre-release tire?

[@tirerack]

Hello! The ProContact RX (T1) is the Original Equipment tire. The T1 designator indicates it’s a Tesla-spec tire. It’s not a part of the proper product name, technically, but we wanted to include it so viewers know it’s different than other ProContact RX tires.

[@mjezzi]

I’m surprised they didn’t test the Pirelli all season elect tires. I love those tires.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for your comment! We have tested the Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus Elect against the Goodyear ElectricDrive GT. For more information, please refer to our full test report: bit.ly/3VYeWBR.

[@mjezzi]

Wow, thank you for replying!

[@davids9577]

what about road noise from the various tires? That is a major factor as well.

[@tirerack]

Noise Comfort is one of the criteria we evaluate in the Road Ride portion of our testing. Ride Quality, Noise Comfort, and Steering & On-Road Handling are the three components in that overall score. We’re now doing a better job of drawing attention to that fact in our videos, but you can always find our subjective impressions in our test reports. The report for this test is located here: www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=327

[@michaelschlemmer1064]

The tire they seem to be pumping: Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S, I will not buy again. . These are the tires I have right now on my '21 model Y long range, and they were most expensive. I only got 17000 miles on them and they are past done. I'm getting different tires tomorrow. I got 20K miles out of the original Good Year tires when the car was new. I'll go back to them.

[@38Flyer]

If drive comfort is the most important factor, what is the best choice?

[@johnbcardin]

Not the elctricdrive2 from goodyear. Do not believe this review. These tires ride like garbage.

[@ericcindycrowder7482]

Do you measure rolling resistance? For me, this is the ONLY metric that I care about for an EV

[@justinseau]

This is pretty much covered with the efficiency section, which the Hankook iON Evo AS topped. As it should.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for your comment! Instead of reporting lab-tested rolling resistance, we perform real-world consumption testing. This includes vehicle-reported watt-hours/mile and calculated range at 100% charge. We feel this is more applicable/relatable for people than a kg/ton calculated rolling resistance coefficient.

[@johnreese3762]

Thanks guys, I needed that! Old guy Model 3!

[@tirerack]

You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by.

[@bumblebee1500]

I need new tires and I can’t really tell which to get the Michelin sports or Pirelli p zero with elect

[@Josh-l9q6s]

Wish the new Pirelli Scorpion Zero AS Plus 3 NCS Elect were included. Really trying to decide between them and the electricdrive 2. I assume the Scorpions have better handling but is it negligible? I assume the comfort difference has a greater disparity between the two tires. It's hard to weigh the options. Especially when i understand the testing in wet conditions is extreme but driving like that would get someone a reckless driving ticket. In real world normal everyday driving is the traction difference between two tires something someone one could say isn't that far off but the comfort difference is?

[@ultimatist]

Excellent group test, I love these detailed discussions!

[@tirerack]

Thank you so much for the feedback! We are glad you enjoyed the video.

[@timstiv]

Excellent video!

[@tirerack]

We appreciate it!

[@rickbernhardt3912]

I replaced my Tesla Model 3 Performance factory Michelins Pilot 4S with ION evo AS… much quieter which is the most important to me and I get about 10% better range. I’m not driving like I’m on a racetrack but do like to blow off the occasional Mustang/Camaro/Hellcat whose owners must be having to replace rear tires quite often as evidenced by what I see in my rear view mirror

[@vladimiryordanov8765]

So any traction issues with the Hankooks when flooring it in Sport mode?

[@rickbernhardt3912]

@@vladimiryordanov8765 I haven’t had any traction issues when I floor it…it’s always in a straight line though…it grips and goes…and like I said they are much quieter than the Michelins and are rated at much better tread life

[@jamiered7102]

Which are the best bargain for people who drive to work and the grocery store. Like 99% of us

[@benbreshears2812]

You need to talk about price

[@rafetorn1264]

All the info you guys put out is all good but you never talk about the life of the tires you tested.

[@Carguytct]

Did you expect them to drive 30k-50k miles, on each tire, to compare the life of each tire. 😂

[@brandonvernet]

​@@Carguytct Yes. Why not? Most people care about the life of the tyre the most. Less than 1% are going to the track, let be honest.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for your comment! Evaluating longevity is outside the scope of our normal testing, but like any tire, the miles you get from your tires will be strongly dependent on the way you use them. We are always looking for ways to improve our testing methods and will share your feedback with our tire testing team!

[@tonydommer]

Such a great video. very well done👍

[@tirerack]

Thank you so much! We appreciate your feedback.

[@IroonieLA]

Yet my EQB 300 AWD car tires already gone bald on 10,500 miles (front tires) the rear tires look like brand new. Never replaced tires under 1 year of driving…. Always drive on Eco mode and in LA weather. Bridgestone tires btw, total bs.

[@johnbcardin]

The Electidrive2 from Goodyear do not ride comfortable. These tires ride worse then the 25000 mile Hankook's that came off the car. Stay away from the Goodyears and be suspect of Tire Rack for reviewing these tires so favorably for comfort and ride.

[@Yachtzeee]

Ev tires are great in warm sunny climates. When it gets colder with rain they feel like hockey pucks

[@tedhu262]

Not Hankooks. Did 7k roadtrip. They were great

[@mondogomez5]

The best tires that no one is talking about is Falken FK 460.

[@mikeb.3189]

Just bought a set, great ride… But lost battery range, might be because I went up a size front and rear: 275/35r21 up front - 295/35r21 out back. Looks aggressive, but range sux majorly 😩

[@myrirr]

strange to leave out F1A6 when there's PS4S..

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

No DWS 06+!?!?!?! Woulda loved to see that one.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for your comment! We wish we could test every tire, but unfortunately there has to be a limit just to keep a test manageable and consistent. The Pilot Sport All Season 4 is by far the more popular choice for EV drivers, so that is the option we selected for this test. Hopefully in the future we will include the ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus in one of our EV-focused tests.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

@tirerack appreciate the testing no doubt. Been buying from you guys for years and hope to continue to!

[@tirerack]

@@MeltingRubberZ28 Thank you for your kind words and for choosing our company. We look forward to serving you again in the future.

[@easternyellowjacket276]

After once owning a Mazda Miata, an excellent car to determine road tire noise because there is virtually no sound deadening used in the car, I can confidently say that the high performance summer tires are loud as hell. Furthermore, those summer sport tires will be chewed through by the weight and torque of electric vehicles. Further still, they are very expensive.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.

[@joblo341]

Will you eventually do a life, miles wear, test. And miles / $ MSRP?

[@tirerack]

We’re always on the lookout for ways to make our testing better, and providing reliable mileage information is one of those. Sadly, because there are so many variables that affect how long your tires are going to last, we haven’t been able to come up with something that meets our standards yet. We’re working on it, but right now we think providing no information is better than providing potentially misleading information.

[@av_oid]

My wife likes the Pirelli PZ4 “Elect” NCS tyres she has recently put on her Ioniq 5.

[@tirerack]

Thanks for leaving the comment! Glad she likes her tires.

[@jessesea77]

Thank you, been waiting for a video like this.

[@tirerack]

So happy you enjoyed the video! There will be many more where this came from.

[@AaronMartinColby]

Good video, but I would have appreciated a lifetime and driving range comparison followed with a pareto frontier comparison.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for your comment! We’re always on the lookout for ways to make our testing better, and providing reliable mileage information is one of those. Sadly, because there are so many variables that affect how long your tires are going to last, we haven’t been able to come up with something that meets our standards yet. We’re working on it, but right now we think providing no information is better than providing potentially misleading information.

[@AaronMartinColby]

@@tirerack Point well made. I still appreciate the video very much.

[@MarcelloTheBandit]

I'm actually thinking about going the opposite direction. EV tires on an ICE car. Looking at a set of Goodyear ElectricDrive 2s on a Volvo V60 or Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. What do y'all think about that idea, @Tirerack? Brainstorming for now.

[@johnbcardin]

Goodyear ElectricDrive 2 These tires do not ride well. They do not provide the level of comfort the review would indicate.

[@darinbrazil5496]

did you run the consumption tests at the same time on the same day in the same conditions? I doubt it and so the consumption measurements are not going to be accurate as even slight wind changes will affect the outcome.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for the comment! We have extensive protocols in place to control external variables like wind, ambient temperature, and driving behavior. When performing our consumption testing, we always run two vehicles - one is equipped with the test tire, and the other is equipped with a known control tire. The numbers we ultimately report are normalized relative to the control tire, making them comparable from day to day.

[@leifandersen2756]

I got EV tire on all four wheels on my diesel SUV.Not much noise and they are nice to have on .

[@tirerack]

We're so happy to hear you enjoy your tires! Thank you for sharing your experience with us.

[@viennarosephotography7784]

anyone have good years ev2??

[@Annoyed792]

I m planning to buy Goodyears ED2 tomorrow for MYLR Tesla

[@viennarosephotography7784]

Went with ion evo. Very happy w them. I don’t think this review is completely objective

[@johnbcardin]

I went with them and after 1000 miles, I need to get these things off the car. The worn Hankook Ion Evo rode better then these things. Complete miss on Goodyear and TR's part.

[@83IT200]

All tires are rated for wear. You can look it up.

[@smc1377]

All tires are rated for wear...by the manufacturer. They literally can make any claim they want to. That's why we need independent reviewers and testers.

[@porroco]

I use nitto invo tires on my model Y and feels great, downside 25miles less batt range

[@mrphotomanTIM]

Wow the volume of the music in the video was absurd. You could barely hear what they were saying, I ended up muting the video and turning on the subtitles. It was so obnoxious

[@tirerack]

Thank you for your feedback! We will make note of this for future videos.

[@RamJamSky]

Why is most of this video about track focused test? Care about long they last, how loud are they, how comfortable, who cares about track performance!?

[@MrGoogle87]

It says something about how the tyres feel, also for regular use car EV enthousiasts

[@ruffmadman]

Tracks have consistent test surfaces and allows you to test performance, bet it handling and grip, or most importantly, braking performance.

[@RamJamSky]

@@ruffmadman sure, performance is a safety factor, but an emergency situation is a once in a while occurrence. Road noise, comfort, loudness and durability are the everyday. That is what these tire reviews should consistently provide. There is no good tire comparisons that consistently compare against those factors. In my view, that is what tire rack would provide as a value add. This review adds very little value.

[@RamJamSky]

@@MrGoogle87lateral g and road holding tells me very little about how they feel in terms of durability, comfort, noise… things you notice only once you buy the tires. They lost an opportunity to add value with these videos. Tell us subjective how they feel over bumps, how does that compare to other tires… have those be consistent factors in every review so we can be informed before we buy the tires

[@tirerack]

Hi there! We try to provide a comprehensive picture of all aspects of tire performance through our test program. Our summer testing is separated into 3 components, Road Rides, Wet Track, and Dry Track. The Road Ride portion of the test is where we discuss noise and comfort. The Wet Track evaluates wet traction through braking and skidpad testing, and wet handling dynamics through our track laps. The Dry Track portion does the same thing, but on a dry track. In the winter, we will also add braking distance on the ice and acceleration, braking, and handling dynamics in light snow.

[@antoinepageau8336]

Couldn’t sit through the whole video (I’m ADD), wanted to point out that most tire makers also offer a « extra load » version of their tires that are better suited for BEV. Basically just make sure the tire load rating can accommodate your vehicle weight. Especially for all the porky non-Tesla ev’s

[@tedhu262]

Play at 2x. Add addressed

[@tedhu262]

Ev tires absolutely matter in roadtrips. Their qualifier of daily charging works until it doesn't. Holidays annually you want efficiency to make the best range. Otoh you rarely need speed demon performance on daily drive. If you do, make sure you're not a road rager treating commute like nascar

[@jimlisiak]

I love the details, but you missed the biggest. How long do the tires last in a heavy EV car. I have driven a Kia EV6 now for 47k miles over 2 years. Already replaced the tires, on my 2nd set which I bought from TireRack. A lot of the non EV rated well, but are softer tires and will wear quickly. Maybe the review wants not to cover the quick replacement of 4 tires as you guys will be making more money, hopefully not.

[@GraysonA]

What is the lowest wh/mi all season tire that you've ever tested?

[@DivayChandra]

Obviously maximum performance summer tires will perform better for grip and lap times... But they will wear down much much faster than EV tires... Longevity is a very important factor to consider because that is what drives the tire cost overtime period.... unfortunately there is no assessment of longevity in this video

[@tirerack]

Thanks for the comment! Evaluating longevity is outside the scope of our normal testing, but like any tire, the miles you get from your tires will be strongly dependent on the way you use them. We are always looking for ways to improve our testing methods and will share your feedback with our tire testing team!

[@ginvt]

电动车专用油漆评测正在制作中😊

[@cryptoskillz]

Ion evo all day

[@castortoutnu]

For everyone's sake, please just buy the quietest tires ❤

[@porroco]

You missed NITTO INVO TIRES.

[@tirerack]

Hi there! That particular tire is discontinued and we only have a small number left in stock, so we do not plan to test them at this point.

[@Redsquirrel007]

Interesting report. Too bad you’ve left out the second most important element of Ev tires after Low RR (and reduced range anxiety). That is you did not talk about the tire endurance and overall mileage. EVs are heavy and have maximum immediate torque, which is a formidable force on tire treads and pattern. Consider the opposite of plane tires upon landing. The result is that fitting non EV ready tires on electric vehicles will often result in high wear and reduced life/mileage. A recent review of MOT failures showed that Tesla Model 3 ( a known tire eater), fitted with non EV tires is seven times more likely to fail the technical inspection due to worn or irregular wear worn tires. And same for Volkwagen ID4 having tires removed after only few tens thousands miles with the shoulders literally worn out.

[@tirerack]

We appreciate your comment! We’re always on the lookout for ways to make our testing better, and providing reliable mileage information is one of those. Sadly, because there are so many variables that affect how long your tires are going to last, we haven’t been able to come up with something that meets our standards yet. We’re working on it, but right now we think providing no information is better than providing potentially misleading information.

[@Andrew.Griffin]

What about the weight rating of the tires? The added weight of EVs is not insignificant.

[@tirerack]

Thank you for your comment! The added weight of EVs is not insignificant. The Load Index of each tire in the test is available on Tirerack.com and in the test report located here: www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=327. It’s important to note that we will only test tires that meet the load requirements for the test vehicle. It is unsafe to install a tire whose load carrying capacity does not meet that standard.

[@curlytoezz]

Why is the passenger speaking for the driver… let the driver who’s driving speak on the experience !!

[@tirerack]

Both of tire specialists talk during the test! It really just depends on how our video team edits the footage.

[@MWS1960]

Replaced with original green X Michelin tires…that have foam inside the tire.

[@MrTherandomvidsguy]

Now test EV specific tires on ICE vehicles

[@mcsike7264]

You sure thats a good idea 😂

[@johnlau743]

Michelin PS4s would probably have to be changed every 10k-15k miles with how soft they are.

[@idonotcarenow]

After watching 75% of this video, I realized I don’t care about tires and I fall in the “buy whatever the heck tires” category.

[@hardykornfeld1733]

Too bad. Tires have the greatest bang for the buck effect on cars, whether you’re aiming for performance, economy, longevity, or handling bad weather. You might not care about tires today, but you will the next time you have to do white knuckle emergency braking to avoid an accident.

[@idonotcarenow]

@@hardykornfeld1733 I’m sure the guy at Costco will care about that.

[@TITTO_Transport]

Don’t know about your energy consumption test. I do Uber with 35k to 40k miles per year and I use the Michelin Pilots All Season. They lasted me for 45k and for all of those miles, my average energy consumption was 250Wh/mile here in Philly PA. That’s driving all year long through sun, rain, snow, and everything in between. In Spring and Fall, I average about 230 but my driving with A/C and heater during summer and winter months is what drives the range average up.

[@tirerack]

That’s an interesting result, and better than we would expect, given our testing methodology. We try to eliminate every possible variable when we’re Consumption testing. As a result, it’s really more of a “best case scenario” situation. We keep the climate control set on a manual fan speed - identical in both vehicles, of course, and we use cruise control the whole time to avoid differing throttle inputs between the test cars. We also don’t regularly test in snow, rain, or extreme temperatures. Those outside influences definitely affect wh/mi. We’ve actually seen a 53 wh/mi difference on the exact same set of tires when testing them at 40 degrees vs. 75 degrees, so temperature has a HUGE impact on the results. Do you have a different model Tesla than the ones we use? Ours are identical, dual motor 2022 Model 3 Performance, and they both deliver virtually the same wh/mi under the same conditions.

[@TITTO_Transport]

@@tirerack my car is a 2021 Model 3 LR. I don’t drive it hard and it’s always on chill mode and I already have good muscle memory on the brakes to avoid excessive wear on the tires due to braking. When I start my driving, the energy consumption is high, but the more miles I drive it, the more it balances itself out. For example, the first 50 miles, the energy consumption could go as high as 300 in summer months, but at 100 miles the average goes down to 280 and continues to drop the more miles are driven. Not sure if that could also contribute to the difference in our results.

[@TheRalf9999]

It’s all about the heavy load increased wearing and tire noise🇺🇸

[@kristoffergo6973]

Bridgestone Turanza was not a good tire. It was hard and really uncomfortable.

[@tirerack]

We're so sorry to hear you're not a fan of these! Next time you're in the market, please do not hesitate to reach out. We'd be happy to provide a recommendation that may better suit your needs!

[@Derpy1969]

What exactly is an EV tire?

[@mcsike7264]

A tire thats made for evs?

[@solarguy4850]

EVs are higher weight, have much higher torque, and are quieter. The best EV tires are designed to handle weight, torque and often use foam inserts to make them quieter. Stiffer sidewalls are common for handling due to the weight thing.

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

Worse thing about EV tires is rim rash. Non-EV tires are proud of the rim, thus preventing curbing your wheels. Look at any Tesla, and you will see the problem.

[@BigD4Real.]

Learn how to drive.

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

@@BigD4Real. Put EV tires on your ICE and let me know how long it takes you to rub your rims.

[@billasweather7833]

Haven’t ever curbed my S ;)

[@ultimatist]

@@andyfeimsternfei8408 I go for years and years without hitting my rims on anything. Your rims complement your driving.

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

@ultimatist EV tires do not stand proud of the rim like standard ICE tires do. You can attack me as a bad driver all you want, and I hope it makes you feel like a big man. Look at EVs on the road, almost all have rim damage, but I'm sure all EV drivers are inferior to your supreme skills. It must be wonderful to be so superior!

[@leeoldershaw956]

This is mostly a bunch of adjective gobbledegook.

[@tarassu]

wrong things to talk about. how long they last

[@tirerack]

Hello, Arnis. Evaluating longevity is outside the scope of our normal testing, but like any tire, the miles you get from your tires will be strongly dependent on the way you use them.

[@EmilioBaldi]

Eco tyres last less because the treads are shallower and more importantly the best ones in the wet breaking tests perform equal to the no name Chinese summer tires.