Getting a Spiritual Director

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@emilybaylor
@emilybaylor 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like all of your videos are my "spiritual director" please don't ever stop!
@mauronicolascanseco1643
@mauronicolascanseco1643 4 жыл бұрын
This was great, thanks, I been tryin to find out about "calling your spiritual guides" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Banulian Lonameron Breakthrough - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my colleague got amazing results with it.
@keeplearning4441
@keeplearning4441 4 жыл бұрын
This is glorious, I've been looking for "spiritual guardian angels" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Banulian Lonameron Breakthrough - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some great things about it and my friend got cool results with it.
@colour2690
@colour2690 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, I been tryin to find out about "spiritual guidance angels" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Banulian Lonameron Breakthrough - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my partner got great success with it.
@pinoyako4001
@pinoyako4001 3 жыл бұрын
This was great, thanks, been searching for "spiritual counselor nyc" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Banulian Lonameron Breakthrough - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some decent things about it and my partner got amazing success with it.
@emilymckellar7443
@emilymckellar7443 2 жыл бұрын
Saaaaaaaame
@CallMeSmash
@CallMeSmash 9 жыл бұрын
Gosh I would love it if Fr. Mike Schmitz was my spiritual director!
@jayDB5
@jayDB5 9 жыл бұрын
5:22 "Holiness consists in this: saying yes to the will of the Father" -- love this line!
@nonjabuloshezi2728
@nonjabuloshezi2728 4 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. Last year I met a priest while visiting a Shrine of our Lady. During a question and answer session we had he was the only priest who understood the question I asked and he answered it and we related due to the love of reading. He could see and sense that I was troubled and when I went back to the Shrine he told me he had been worried about me and was praying for me a lot and he offered to be my spiritual director. He was absolutely amazing, we connected spiritually and he was a great listener and he would advise in such a way that I felt he knew me better that I knew myself. A year after we met he passed (February of this year) God rest his soul.And I was doing so well and my life is looking up but I have been praying that I may find another spiritual director.
@juliantisugiman3331
@juliantisugiman3331 7 жыл бұрын
I have a spiritual mentor, a wonderful person. She has become my best friend. But she never consider me as her spiritual disciple, she considered me as her best friend too. She is not a sister, she's married. She prayed 1 hour or more every day, she goes to mass every day. She teaches evangelic school, she is also a counselor in Catholic Church. I love her so much, and very grateful for having her as my 'best friend' (spiritual mentor). She always reminds me to pray, to seek God's help in my weaknesses. The Holy spirit in her is so big. So, Holy Spirit, thank you for guiding me, also for teaching me through her. I am so blessed, so grateful. Love you Jesus
@maryfrances499
@maryfrances499 6 жыл бұрын
Fr Mike you got some vocals!!
@DLeos04
@DLeos04 6 жыл бұрын
I just recently started going to a spiritual director last month. He is a priest. The way I knew that he was the right spiritual director was when I went to confession. He was a visiting priest. That was one of the best confessions I have had. I then attended some of his masses at my parish. I felt the need to ask him if he did spiritual direction after mass one day and he said yes. He is a legionary priest and said he does spiritual direction 50% of the time. So far, I have met with him about 4 times and it is going well. I am thankful and blessed to have found a great spiritual director.
@jeannine9066
@jeannine9066 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said, Fr Mike! For a long time I begged God to give me a Spiritual Director, and it happened just like you said. One didn't feel qualified & the other was too busy & far away. God finally told me that He wanted Mother Mary & the Holy Spirit to direct me through the desert. When I persevered, He sent me the incredible priests who were able to send me forward in the direction God was leading me to. God is good all the time!
@jaqiabbo9596
@jaqiabbo9596 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahahaha I am watching Fr. Mike for the first time.... I thought i had opened a comedy clip and almost passed it since I really wanted to learn something... But I also love comedies, so i thought 6 min of comedy before I go on Isnt bad.. And then there comes the exact message wanted to hear. Thank you Fr. Mike. The short video has spoken to me
@bagobeans
@bagobeans 8 жыл бұрын
Sister St. Faustina went through several spiritual directors before she found the right one.
@airishsitdown6825
@airishsitdown6825 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so moved with her journey.
@dl9891
@dl9891 9 жыл бұрын
I just discovered these videos and this priest, and it's just fantastic, waw, God bless him (and you all)
@lucystephanieproperties
@lucystephanieproperties 4 ай бұрын
Amen. Lord Your will be done! Help us to follow Your will all the time. 🙏
@easterellen
@easterellen Жыл бұрын
I agree.. where we don't have a spiritual director, the Holy Spirit resides in our heart when we remain close to God through prayer, church and the Holy Eucharist
@trapperma
@trapperma 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great ending about following the sacraments of the church because the Holy Spirt is there. I sense I get spiritual direction through frequent confession. The priest uses the term becoming holy. It really is amazing way for spiritual direction, frequent confession, to help keep an even keel with the will of God as you journey to holiness.
@jillb7402
@jillb7402 2 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed to hear right now. Thank you Lord for using Fr. Mike.
@ishadas1965
@ishadas1965 6 жыл бұрын
0:25 "what happens to them when they're 71 ?" You nailed it Father😂😂😂😂
@kathrinabalbuena4251
@kathrinabalbuena4251 5 жыл бұрын
This is my seventh spiritual director in all of eleven years; I prayed to God for them, and the Holy Spirit directed us towards a fruitful productive faithful spiritual- director- directee relationship that God will to be perfect respectful and it was awesome! God be praised!
@joseantoniomendez7302
@joseantoniomendez7302 Жыл бұрын
WoHoo!! I was just thinking about finding a spiritual director, to the point of "stressing out", until I found this video and WOWZERS! I can breath again. Pheew!! As long as I stay close to the Sacraments of the Catholic church, I will be fine! (Aka confession more often). God Bless you Fr. Mike! Gracias!! 💪
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
You’re already my “Spiritual Director Father Mike.” I couldn’t be more grateful or thankful. God Bless you sweet soul of soul. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@kellysoo
@kellysoo 3 ай бұрын
This is awesome. Thank you so much. I was feeling desperate to find a spiritual director. I think I would rather wait in Him to show me the spiritual director for me. Being an ex-Protestant I get hung up on figuring it out with God alone as they always say “when two or three are gathered together we are the church God answered type thing. So there is no need of anyone who is perhaps more qualified than thou type of attitude. While this is true about the Holy Spirit the Protestantism usually take it so far that they don’t want any authority or a human guide. I hope that makes sense. But thanks Fr Mike. I am an Hallow app user and I pray for you everyday. Thank you for praying for me too. ❤❤❤
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 8 жыл бұрын
Alright, now I want to hear Fr. Mike pray the Mass and get his plainsong on.
@jelenaj.3770
@jelenaj.3770 Жыл бұрын
"You can be a crazy person, they could be a crazy people.😂"❤❤❤❤Great video Holy Spirit is a Spirirual Director.
@erickapadilla3638
@erickapadilla3638 4 жыл бұрын
Love this video.. I spent time looking for a spiritual director but seemed to get no where. All along I was being guided by the Holy Spirit!!💝
@trapperma
@trapperma 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Also, Confession is a great way to have a visit with the Holy Spirit-Jesus-God The Father, all in one spiritual direction in the confessional. Works for me, that is.
@airishsitdown6825
@airishsitdown6825 5 жыл бұрын
I remember after confession a priest told me that I need to ask God the grace to find my spiritual director. Surely, I did not see it's effects of not having one till I read St. Faustinas book "Mercy in my soul". It's more of psychological, emotional therapy and counseling applying the teachings of the Catholic Church which is proven and tested by saints trully helpful in order for us to advance in virtue. I'm so moved when you say your holiness doesn't come from having spiritual director but saying Yes to God. Thanks Fr. Mike!
@aidaruilova140
@aidaruilova140 7 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Your sense of humor and knowledge are awesome! Thank you for helping me grow closer to God and smile too!
@rossanagraca3825
@rossanagraca3825 Жыл бұрын
I love how you talk about the Holy Spirit as a Spiritual director. That was illuminating. Why call them (priest, deacons, deacon’s wife, nuns…) to be a spiritual director’s when we could possibly call them close friends who can help us from time to time? But I love how you bring the Holy Spirit in this! Thank you very much Father Mike! God bless you!
@tkdstudent7578
@tkdstudent7578 6 жыл бұрын
A few weeks ago I prayed for someone spiritual The a few days later I met someone spiritual And now I get a chance to know things about myself that I didn't even know 😇🐦
@TiffanyThrelkeld
@TiffanyThrelkeld 8 жыл бұрын
You crack me up! Thank you for putting this stuff in a way that is both entertaining and easily understood.
@rolandprovence986
@rolandprovence986 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your clear presentation....your realistic approach as to the way forward is quote a relief. It is written that Jesus said whoever does the will of the Father is my brother....Thanks
@AWKN7777
@AWKN7777 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you Father for this video🙏🏻😇🥰😊
@MichaelBrooksmsb400
@MichaelBrooksmsb400 2 жыл бұрын
My Spiritual Director is a Discalced Carmelite Priest, thou I am now in Florida, and he's in Southern California. Oftentimes, I will ask him a question or update him on what's happening, and how I am dealing with things Spiritually, or I am in a Situation, and ask if I am dealing with it as I aught. Sometimes I sense the flow by how he answers or he answers not, then I discern possible reasons for not responding, and that usually is a positive. We communicate by Messanger.
@TrustInJesusThruMaryWithJoseph
@TrustInJesusThruMaryWithJoseph 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you dear Father Mike. 🙏🏻🕊🔥❤️🔥🕊🙏🏻
@artorefalnera3055
@artorefalnera3055 Жыл бұрын
Fr. Thank you for the clarification 😇
@shailadsilva258
@shailadsilva258 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fr Mike , I always wanted a spiritual director , but HS thru you told me that I don’t need one , He is goin to direct me Himself.
@schweitzer1
@schweitzer1 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks father. God bless.
@shannonabeywardena7323
@shannonabeywardena7323 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Father Mike!!
@CallMeSmash
@CallMeSmash 8 жыл бұрын
Along with going to that priest's Mass go to reconciliation with him.
@DLeos04
@DLeos04 6 жыл бұрын
That is how I found my spiritual director. He was a visiting priest at my parish and it was one of the best confessions I have had. That’s how I knew I found the right spiritual director.
@bruceljmartin
@bruceljmartin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. God bless you.
@joepugh678
@joepugh678 8 ай бұрын
Seventeen...you're a trip sometimes, thanks. Anyway, my son watches you a lot but I've only seen a few of your vids. When I saw this title I was anxious that you would toe the "orthodoxy " line, but your focus here is on the freedom and discernment of the individual and I think you are right on. I myself am not 100% orthodox but I believe that the Holy Spirit is not all or nothing. There is a lot of good wheat in my heart and maybe - probably there are a lot of tares we well. I don't think a S. D. who says "First, tear out all the tares and then we can move forward" is one who can truly help me find peace and move forward. Nor do I want someone who will only say what I want to hear. I think your mirror analogy is a very good one for confused catholics.
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
No fear here, and darling “I” ahhh “I’ll be loving you until we #70... Until we Meet again... “I’ll be praying for you.” 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
All the best to all. God Bless.
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
Holy Spirit, bring it on, I open my heart to you.
@aprilburoker8479
@aprilburoker8479 6 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! It’s so timely that I came across this video as I’m currently looking for a spiritual director! Albeit, I didn’t know the term spiritual director. Thank you for the guidance Father Mike!
@iwonapietal1818
@iwonapietal1818 9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Many thanks Father, it helps a lot to understand Spiritual direction :). so, he is to be a mirror to me, Peace
@SevenDeMagnus
@SevenDeMagnus 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fr. I wish it was easy to get a good spiritual director. I've been looking for years. The good ones, since they're good, understandably they are always in demand and are busy.
@tkdstudent7578
@tkdstudent7578 6 жыл бұрын
Nice singing father Mike
@teletubqwerty2
@teletubqwerty2 7 жыл бұрын
Love this man!!!
@beverlyhanlon8101
@beverlyhanlon8101 3 жыл бұрын
A good Spiritual Director should encourage you especially if trying to do Gods will in your life. Prayers!!!
@DirectionalFaith
@DirectionalFaith 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. I love the honest chat about how finding the right fit is so important.
@criscavi19
@criscavi19 8 жыл бұрын
The catechism of catholic church can also be used as spiritual guide!
@craigallan8834
@craigallan8834 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Father Mike. A good friend told me that if I pray on it I will find a good Spiritual Director. My friend said that when the Holy Spirit see's fit, He will send a Spiritual Director to me. I have so many questions and this whole living in the Divine Will thing has got me asking.....what next God!!! @fathermike
@Andrew-dc7nl
@Andrew-dc7nl 7 жыл бұрын
I'm totally diggin' these vids.
@orlandomateos5687
@orlandomateos5687 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's not that simple for everyone. God wanted it. Nice father
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
He’s been invaded my Space lately but hay hay hay, he is a welcome human... 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@robedinwhite
@robedinwhite 6 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to find a priest interested in hearing a good confession! One who would be my Spiritual Director would be frosting on the cake! Thanks for the video ideas and all the comments of others
@graceandfaith1046
@graceandfaith1046 5 жыл бұрын
YES!!! and AMEN TO THAT!!!
@carolinepatton132
@carolinepatton132 3 жыл бұрын
Ty Fr.🙏
@kathygarvey8167
@kathygarvey8167 Жыл бұрын
That was awesome , I get it I had a spiritual director than he got a new assignment but I journaled on Gratitude he gave me a few books to follow and I journaled for 50 days at the end I went back to read my journal wow I didn’t even recognize my writing I thought I was reading someone else book journal . I texted my spiritual director about this also told him I finally connected to the Holy Spirit in meditation I got an was excited . He said we could zoom the meetings but my computer has satin in it haha only kidding it just doesn’t work the zoom with me I can zoom it just doesn’t let me zoom , like I said I think evil flicks a switch off somewhere and I can’t connect .
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to this awesome relationship with. Priest that looks like my nephew Philly.
@Artemis4stars
@Artemis4stars 5 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful! I’ve always wondered if I needed one, and I’ve read a few books and of course LOVE to watch your guiding videos. The Holy Spirit is THE ultimate spiritual director- never really realized that. Maybe that’s why I picked up a book on the Holy Spirit at the church book fair! 😂💕
@fiachramacaonrae5449
@fiachramacaonrae5449 2 жыл бұрын
I've pressed the subscribe button!
@alexandraaichelburg9653
@alexandraaichelburg9653 8 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SOO MUCH AGAIN ! Alexandra
@therese_paula
@therese_paula 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly cringed at your singing, Fr. Mike! 😂 But i still love you and continue to pray for your fidelity to God til the end. 🙏 Thank you for this video, I have been wondering about how to find a spiritual director, how to approach a prospect and all that. God bless you, Father!
@kelkabot
@kelkabot 10 ай бұрын
Remember the guidelines for what to say: Is it true? Is it necessary? Is it kind?
@marytataryn5144
@marytataryn5144 9 жыл бұрын
How fast do you pray the rosary? 10 mins? lol
@thequicksloth60
@thequicksloth60 7 жыл бұрын
Mary Fehr it's fast but meaningful lol
@matthewsalvador9783
@matthewsalvador9783 4 жыл бұрын
20 minutes moderate pace.
@aaronfarris8100
@aaronfarris8100 3 жыл бұрын
I would love Fr. Mike Schmitz to my spiritual director as well.
@NicOle-hu2km
@NicOle-hu2km 6 жыл бұрын
So good
@debbie2027
@debbie2027 6 жыл бұрын
oh man ... the beginning of the video .... don't quit that day job Fr. Mike LOL
@generalyousif3640
@generalyousif3640 Жыл бұрын
I may get on post Easter
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
Golden leaves looked brown to me The world had less color without you Shapes in the sky looked plain to my eyes The world had less color without you I know plenty of people with eyes closed They don't see you like I do Darling, I do Notes on the keys meant nothing to me The world didn't sing without you Birds in the trees fell silent for me The world didn't sing without you, without you I know plenty of people with eyes closed They don't see you like I do Darling, I do Darling, I do see you I know plenty of people with eyes closed They don't see you like I know plenty of people with eyes closed They don't see you like I know plenty of people with eyes closed They don't see you like I do Darling, I do Darling, I do Darling, I do, I do Darling, I do Darling, I do see you Source: Musixmatch Songwriters: Pigg Landon Christian Anderson / Schwartz Lucy Darling I Do lyrics © Songs Of Dwa, Dwa Songs...🤣🤣🤣
@gabeparks9378
@gabeparks9378 Жыл бұрын
Fr. had some coffee today
@silvermystic2001
@silvermystic2001 8 жыл бұрын
How are you supposed to get the holy spirit? Like some people seem to feel it and hear it a lot and not sure I hear it?
@SevenDeMagnus
@SevenDeMagnus 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. I truly need a spiritual director. God bless, Proverbs 31
@WPWolfe
@WPWolfe 6 жыл бұрын
Fr. Mike, will u be my spiritual director pleazee
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
Peace to all, “I’ll miss y’all.”
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, God told me fo deal with @Pandora only for awhile. Yep, God is my “Spiritual Director.” Y’all take care. 🥰ya’ foreva’
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
He’s not ready yet...cuz he knows me well.
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t have you as a “Spiritual Fire 🔥 Director” for many reasons...”
@jonathangoodwin646
@jonathangoodwin646 Жыл бұрын
Who do I talk? If I have questions about the Church, I'm gonna be turning Catholic. Do all my confessions Is going to mass. Taking holy communion
@merlin846
@merlin846 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus is my spiritual director.
@diegoruiz2186
@diegoruiz2186 6 жыл бұрын
He's everyone's spiritual director, but sometimes we need help discerning His will in our lives and overcoming our sinfulness.
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 жыл бұрын
I’m just gonna be me’ own “spiritual Holy Director...” 🤣🤣🤣
@JenniferLudwig156
@JenniferLudwig156 8 ай бұрын
What if i am I'm disabled and can't leave the house? I had one before i was disabled in another state. No clue what to do.
@jonathangoodwin646
@jonathangoodwin646 Жыл бұрын
How do I get a sponsor Since I was going for so long.
@Angel4Prayer
@Angel4Prayer 5 жыл бұрын
Holy Spirit is the Spiritual Director of your life. Spiritual Director helps you discern how or what the Holy Spirit is guiding your life and growing your spiritually. Holiness is "saying "yes" to the will of God the Father". Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth and make you holy.
@DoroteeaZorici
@DoroteeaZorici 5 жыл бұрын
Pls fr sheran is good...anyway are catholic priests also sing on the holly mass, or only the choir? Bc in my church they also sing. Also, in the ortodox church, usually the priest Who you confess to becomes your spiritual advisor. I mean he is not only gives you the sacrament of forgivness but also gives you advices to overcome your sins and improve your life ( or, at least he should)
@MsKristi1234
@MsKristi1234 7 жыл бұрын
AMEN!
@MG-zw9fw
@MG-zw9fw 2 жыл бұрын
Where do I find a Catholic Church with a Father Mike ?
@kelkabot
@kelkabot 10 ай бұрын
Duluth, Minnesota is the only place with a priest like Father Mike.
@marioriospinot
@marioriospinot 8 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@jonathangoodwin646
@jonathangoodwin646 Жыл бұрын
I meeternal a priest Visiting The Philippines My wife Friend . The priest gave me a rosary. Now I came back to the Catholics church ⛪️. I did all my confessions. I go to mass, taking holy Communion . My wholesale family are Catholics, my wife, 3 kids.
@kelkabot
@kelkabot 10 ай бұрын
That’s awesome. Did you formally join the Church? If not, please be sure to speak with a priest and arrange it before receiving the Eucharist. Blessings!
@bagobeans
@bagobeans 8 жыл бұрын
Paul McCartney said "64" didn't he?
@lisah6894
@lisah6894 5 жыл бұрын
If I go to a spiritual director, is there a fee I need to pay? Does the priest charge a fee?
@emeselatkoczy9011
@emeselatkoczy9011 5 жыл бұрын
No.
@marystewart185
@marystewart185 5 жыл бұрын
Can a husband and wife be each others spiritual director's ?
@grababundoberni
@grababundoberni 2 жыл бұрын
Yes as marriage is s teamwork. If the husband tells his wife and she tells him, no hiding...they both grow up.
@alicialey6066
@alicialey6066 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was 17 too!!! lol
@OliviaSlusher
@OliviaSlusher 9 жыл бұрын
hahaha 17, I thought that too
@jeankodin
@jeankodin 9 жыл бұрын
+Olivia Rose I thought I was the only one!
@arianayouknownewcitycrew9070
@arianayouknownewcitycrew9070 9 жыл бұрын
+Olivia Rose same... I thought the same thing until my older brother told me it was 70...
@adamhovey407
@adamhovey407 8 жыл бұрын
Father, I am 28. Had I a wife, I think it might be a good idea to love her, well, for all time
@cloverfield911
@cloverfield911 9 жыл бұрын
I guess it's divorce then after 70!!....LOL!
@KyzzKyss
@KyzzKyss 4 жыл бұрын
💗
@marioriospinot
@marioriospinot 8 жыл бұрын
Careful with the stigma of "crazy" or cancer, or disabled...thank you.
@kelkabot
@kelkabot 10 ай бұрын
I’ve battled with mental illness, but it was clear to me that by “crazy” he was simply saying to beware of flaky, wacky, or unreliable types. If you have spent any time at all with Fr. Mike’s videos, you’ll know he has deep respect for the dignity of all persons.
@emilyn7572
@emilyn7572 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was 17 too. 🙈😆
@dianacarolinasantacruzruiz8725
@dianacarolinasantacruzruiz8725 3 жыл бұрын
"They don't love me" 😂🤦🏻‍♀️
@mikeploszay1135
@mikeploszay1135 Жыл бұрын
Why would I want a spiritual director when you can ask your priest? Does a spiritual director have any authority in the natural law of the Catholic Church? ✝️
@kelkabot
@kelkabot 10 ай бұрын
Priests are thin on the ground and in high demand for the sacraments and other tasks. Also, someone might want a woman as spiritual director, or a married person. If you have a faithful and orthodox priest you trust, they can direct you to someone reliable.
@akathevip
@akathevip 3 жыл бұрын
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