Getting Familiar With Your Vehicle - Ki-83

[@cookiecracker2]

Honestly respect to that fw 190, he knew he was going down and decided to take as many with him, and he succeeded, might even argue that he won by fight, cause 1 plane for 3 is kind of a loss, except that he was the last one.

[@ibanana1871]

Thank you mate o7

[@yokkai7775]

@@ibanana1871 you are a very good player, my respects to you o7

[@Pretzel-j3s]

@@ibanana1871 the man the myth the legend

[@eyo8766]

DEFYN: "Get familiar with your vehicle" Me flying the F8U: *Breaks both of my arms to get a feel for how often this plane breaks its wings*

[@tigger1719]

Fr

[@diegoplanellperea9321]

also important at stock, you get 10 free repairs so might as well use em to get a feel for the plane

[@kingghidorah8106]

you're supposed to not even be caressed by a single bullet, using the free 10 repairs is noobness.

[@diegoplanellperea9321]

@@kingghidorah8106 i think youve greatly missunderstood what i said

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@diegoplanellperea9321 im joking, this channel is known for mock playing elitism and im kind of following it. "We only die for ticket bleed/we never get damaged in this channel/we're professional and you know that didn't happen at all" after Defyn makes some mistake and dies, and then people saying "You reversed it without even shooting at it!" kind of jokes

[@diegoplanellperea9321]

@@kingghidorah8106 ahhhhh XD its me whos misunderstood you, yeah it the reason i love this channel defyn just knows how to do irony XD

[@nischeta5462]

Probably the only respectful misunderstanding of youtube comment history

[@immanus5456]

Ngl that A8 took a lot of people with him.

[@neutronshiva2498]

Kudos to the last fw 190. Gigachad kills 3 guys while being chased :D

[@nipplecream3099]

by Defyn, no less

[@ibanana1871]

Thank you =0)

[@jrs3739]

That FW at the end was a beast, tbh. Great vid!

[@plantenthusiast3052]

Yeah, always be careful with the american 190 A8. The plane isn't good, but the players that play that plane have cracked aim. One of the worst feelings is being forced into a head on with them.

[@reinbeers5322]

@@plantenthusiast3052 I fly the german one somewhat often and every game is a dice roll between 5 kills or dying immediately lol. Full stealth ammo is a wild ride.

[@jetstar4884]

gods strongest fcher

[@TheLazyKat]

Not really, they dodged horribly

[@JorgingMyShit]

​@@TheLazyKat Gato spotted

[@javidbazri5235]

omg, the first game was poetically insane, just needed an Iron Maiden back track.

[@CowBeatsCrow]

I know they're not generally the best, but twin engine/heavy prop fighters are my absolute favorite.

[@shinixb.6500]

Same

[@ironic8340]

Yak 15, Me 262, Meteor, F4U and some imperial Japan heavy fighter in the same match What a game war thunder is fr

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

Historical match making has been gone for weeks now too, at least on my servers. Nations be fighting themselves.

[@byance97]

@@TeenWithACarrotIDK Historical MM has been gone for years due to win rate balance among the different nations. I remember the times when US air RB had like 38% WR because a lot of really experienced players were in the German, Japanese and Soviet teams (Germany vs USSR matches were sweaty as hell). Nowadays you can get every once in a while historical matches against the Japanese with similar results as before xd

[@princessapplestrach6327]

Sometimes when playing the F4U1B (the first one with cannons) you can play on Iwo jima against only japanese and you can takeoff from the carrier which is nice af

[@left_ventricle]

Meanwhile Sk60B at 7.0: Jokes aside though, Ki-83, Me 262, Hornet Mk III, F4U-4B, Meteor 3, Yak-15 are all quite similar in their era. They are slightly less far apart than P-51D-30 is to A6M3, which is roughly around 3 years (1942 vs. 1945)

[@cookiecracker2]

​@@TeenWithACarrotIDKweeks?????!!!!! WEEKS?!?!?! HOW LONG YOU BEEN GONE MAN?!

[@kendellmoore8367]

As usual it was a work of art watching you fly, *Defyn* && I learned a lot! Cheers, mate 🍻🔥

[@kendellmoore8367]

R.I.P. the teammate at the end lol unfortunate

[@t2av159]

you didnt learn anything

[@smigoltime]

2:40 I cant believe they didnt hit you even once xDDD

[@Oliepolie]

Very informative, definitely going to try just getting kills with new vehicles to feel it out faster, I usually try to play it safe for a bit till its spaded but maybe thats not the best strat :p

[@aidanlipscombe2501]

having a shit day at school. come home. go onto youtube. *DEFYN has posted a video*. Day instantly becomes better. I love your content dude

[@terencium]

wtf unlisted??

[@jay_jax]

?

[@plug-intypeasacoco]

Omg a time-traveler!!1!1!!!

[@l3taggs]

holy shit we all be returning 💀

[@bulletso206]

What the hell. Identify yourself

[@moriartyholmes8172]

A much more interesting plane to play then the Hornet IMO

[@AlejandroPadilla_]

I'm new, and I'm trying hard to be better.... Just have a few days with the game but I love your videos, I already watched the tutorials videos but need more practice to improve. Thanks ! Love ur videos

[@michaelasberry3953]

It takes time but you'll get there have patience and the game will come to you sort of speaking.

[@mrcat5508]

Please don’t play

[@biohazardindustrieswr697]

Can't throw myself into those situations or I get struck by repair costs

[@blacksky121_]

"Chicken with its head cut off..." hey that's my playstyle :D

[@851852093114208513]

Ugh that fuckin 190 at the end lmao I mean I love being in that position, where it's like I'm obviously fucked and there's no way I'm gonna live but people on the other team still keep taking dumb headons with me to give me extra kills but it's so frustrating when it's your team being fucking stupid and taking ridiculous head-ons with a plane that is not gonna live anyway

[@dakotahondalock5621]

Hell yeah a prop video

[@D_U_N_E]

I formerly played WT near purely to collect planes and tanks. When I got back into it a while back, it was only with half a heart and no real proper way to understand how to learn to be good, so my attempts were limp since it was still about collecting cool planes and tanks. Your videos have made me actually start using more techniques and having better success rates, now mind you I'm level 100 at the time I really tried... I will not say how many of that is due to wyvern base bombing... But I am having a lot more success now. I still kinda avoid ground spawn planes other than jets cause I am not to the point I can reliably reverse/detect energy states, and 3 minutes climbing to just get sent back to the hangar with no rewards is just not the fun I am in for chief. Though my success rate against CAS in ground has sky rocketed, and I have about a 1-1 trade ratio with other players, which is about 5x better than I used to - so cheers.

[@Jepicus]

Adore this plane, but honestly prefer the J5N1. Lower BR, similar performance, and roughly infinite 20mm ammo, and a lot of people don't really know what it is.

[@kingghidorah8106]

similar performance? The j5n1 is dogshit heavy, but it at least can certainly maneuver, dive, pull, reverse and stall fight. It's my most flown prop. My highest skill based carries are on J5n1. Becomes a monster when it's below 10mins of fuel but its hard to reach when you only have 20 mins before having to hurry.

[@Jepicus]

@@kingghidorah8106 Thanks for disagreeing with me using 'similar' and then proceeding to list why the two vehicles are similar.

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@Jepicus how am I saying they're similar bruh💀 the Ki83 has amazing acceleration and climb rate even from the start with 35 minutes of min fuel. Ki83 can't pull, nor dive, nor roll, nor reverse. Things J5N1 can perfectly do. Ki83 has obnoxiously bad energy retention because of it's awful drag. J5N1 is more streamlined and has better retention like, it accelerates in flag turns duh.

[@galactiquechannel2517]

Bro started the game against one of the best French squad

[@No1harris_98]

Honestly can’t wait for the new F-16 for Japan

[@albertogiavani75]

Cant wait for all nations except USSR to have F16 yayy, air rb everyone in the same plane Taiwan should have been an USA subtree lol

[@No1harris_98]

@@albertogiavani75 lol, but honestly I think its fair for the time being considering most countries don’t rlly have great top tier aircraft or stuck with old ones.

[@rileyanderson0024]

Your shots are beautiful

[@drewfarmer05]

with full landing flaps down at low alt, this thing can outturn the h5 mustang in an extended turn fight. depends if they slap the shit out of you with their 50 cals before you get to that point tho

[@alouiciousjackson5812]

Wow this thing looks like the Japanese answer to the F7F Tigercat

[@kingghidorah8106]

Good, now I know how to struggle less on the rocket bomber. Thank you so much. My experience with Ki83 has always been EZ mode vs Jets and a struggle fest vs super props. Now please do J5N1 next😭

[@josippetkovic389]

Yes

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@josippetkovic389 Vučje mlijeko

[@josippetkovic389]

@@kingghidorah8106 Ice cream

[@SeekerHead]

ez mode v jets? would you go as far as to say that this prop, eats jets for breakfast?

[@JayNDFTL]

@@SeekerHead ain’t no way

[@ΠαρηςΠαρασκευας-ι8μ]

Defyn did you ever think of making a guide series for the each countries aircraft capabilities and play style for them?

[@EustassSolo]

been waiting for this just forgot to comment for it 💯

[@Earlibims]

6:32 what does changing the supercharger gear do?

[@yuh861]

Everyone's aim in the first clip haahha wtf, very lucky to survive that

[@Smithgirll]

Spitfire griffon when?

[@iVerse2043]

I prefer the old "annnd... Welcome back"

[@redbaron8670]

How did you managed to get your flames effects so vibrant ? post editing ? Is there a secret video setting i don't know ?

[@ArcJupiter]

In game post processing.

[@pyrolooga3393]

Hello defyn. I humbly request that you cover the f9f-2/5. It has been 3-4 years since you've last done so and I would like to hear some tips from you

[@tahu033]

As someone who's currently using the F9F-2 please do this!

[@angga2917]

Probably not anytime soon since Gaijin messed all HE shell...

[@TheLazyKat]

Gonna be honest the old sounds are so much better idk why

[@gemini_1085]

would love to see the israeli F4,I know it is just another phantom but I cannot get the radar to work to save my soul and it is probably my worst jet kd in my 9 years of play.

[@djkecstasy630]

No pd = ass radar

[@19DESERTFOX91]

In my experience if you are doing everything correct... game might screw you over. If you don't have PD mode radar you need to stay high or look up to shoot sparrows. If you have PD like EJ Kai... well they work better but one reason I don't like top tier jets is radar missle seem to just not accept locks sometimes. So you just fly around with the extra wieght.

[@robertgaudet7407]

Use the phantom’s acm mode in realistic I’d say, been having good luck with that but I am using an F-4 with PD. Crappy PD but it does shoot down into ground clutter if they are coming head-on fast.

[@wmolders8160]

I appreciate the video and the explanation about learning the plane. I wonder what to do in the situation where you were in the fight with the 190A-8 in an arcade situation where he would not necessarily stall out. What do you do then?

[@Satanperkele]

Not play arcade 🤣

[@Alimentasable]

Yeah arcade is a different game entirely. I haven't played it in quite a while but from what I remember it's all about having a better turn rate, but that doesn't matter anyway because it's never a 1v1 in arcade and someone will always just shoot you in the back while you're fighting

[@dakotahondalock5621]

Yeah nothing about this or any of Defyns content can help with arcade, it’s way too different to be even remotely useful

[@norinco8724]

play rb

[@iank6897]

@@dakotahondalock5621 I play AB and watch defyn content mainly for entertainment, but the basics such as energy management and target prioritization still carry over

[@Unitra2550]

Ki83 video let's fucking go

[@nippon2003]

First clip is all about aim skills and agressive fighting. I did that alot in old times, it meant easy 5 kill matches in every few battles with planes such as Ki-84s, J7W, Ki-83 etc. But here is the thing, its not about skills but luck when enemy gets chance to shoot at you. This playstyle is inconsistent and ugly because it takes the control from you and gives it to enemy. Shouldnt be done with BnZ aircraft. The right way to play Ki-83 is climbing above 6km then baiting enemies into hammerheads and BnZ. This way I get 2-3 kills per battle with my 10 FPS potato laptop. Im sure good players will get 5+ kills this way. Never go unga bunga in this plane unless the enemy team already got obliterated. Im concerned because I got called noob for climbing and not playing agressively. Clip #2 is the perfect example of Ki-83 gameplay. Perfect flying and perfect aiming. congrats! Also a tip: do not try to catch running away fighters in Ki-83, this will bleed your energy advantage and ability to BnZ over target.

[@dr.argentina]

this video made me realize

[@Biggo343]

Is this actually meant to be unlisted?

[@tavolo2969]

I guess it was

[@georgivanev7466]

Its technically a prop Kikka

[@ninjalanternshark1508]

I hope the noob who got baited @ 0.28 learned from that mistake. LOL @ him if he didn't. About as easy of a 1+ km shot as you will get.

[@northerngannet3740]

Please could you cover one of the Vampires? I can't find any video in which you have covered one previously and I am struggling with the Finnish one.

[@gabrielmathias2249]

Could you do videos on the 3 seafires (mk3, mk17, and fr47) as little coverage on them and I to see how they compare.

[@axillary2]

Never seen that plane in a game

[@gregorysaugustine5236]

How would this plane rank with f82 and the hornet?

[@milesromanus7041]

I'm currently at the J5N1 which is rated 5.7 but is a Tier 3. This one is a 6.0 but tier 4.. will I get much stronger enemies with it even if the rating increses just with 0.3?

[@mrcat5508]

Yeah you will start to go against jets

[@sekutard5157]

how do you feel about rereviewing planes?! the meta keeps changing (especially top tier i feel like) and some planes are way more relevant now than they were a year ago

[@nipplecream3099]

i feel like that’d be a good idea but there’s still plenty of planes he’s yet to cover that i’d rather see

[@sekutard5157]

@@nipplecream3099 like which ones?

[@nipplecream3099]

@@sekutard5157 personally, the first thing that comes to mind is the VB. 10C for France

[@sekutard5157]

@@nipplecream3099 I think he mentioned his lack of incentive to review certain planes.

[@demonicleek1378]

You should do the hornet as well

[@TransportSupremo]

Lesss gooooo

[@ultraboost9400]

secret spooky video

[@jacobdonnely2608]

Yo did they revert the AA nerf? Just a few days ago I was able to strafe people on the airfield without a scratch easily and now it's suicide for me to do it again? Anybody else notice this? I was seeing people complaining about the AA nerf, maybe they reverted it without saying anything.

[@DEFYN]

Yeah they did change it It was announced today

[@jacobdonnely2608]

@@DEFYN So fucking lame

[@kingcamilo]

You probably saw cork's video recently in the ki 83 gettin 8 kills playing like this

[@fatherland5057]

you should fly the Sea Hawk Mk.100 in the german tech tree

[@fileto7]

Does it play like a Hornet? And, if so, which one is better?

[@kingghidorah8106]

hornet is faster and retains better but turns worse and stiffens up more. It also can take damage. A single 50 cal is enough to cut this plane in half.

[@kingghidorah8106]

@PanzerSoldat they taught me that you can neutralize overheating by setting pitch to 93 and radiators to 35. You will never overheat. But anyway, the Ki83 is slower than a Spitfire LF Mk9 below 5km in straight line... so make use of your altitude and second supercharger. One enemy above and you're dead.

[@J7Handle]

@@kingghidorah8106 wait does, setting the radiator down not hurt the cooling situation? Normally with the Ki-83 I do pitch at 90 and radiators at 100 and it still turns pale yellow then orange after a while.

[@wetzel1628]

The ki83 beats the hornet in a 1v1 dogfight but the hornet is technically the better plane. The ki83 kinda just counters the hornet because they both have amazing climb and air spawn while the ki83 turns better. However the hornet is massively faster at all altitudes and if it wants to disengage it can do so easily

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@J7Handle idk, maybe it's because of your altitude, at 6k it never overheats with those settings. Keep in mind that radiators cause a lot of drag and if you wep with them out completely they will hinder your plane, making it go slower than needed and not letting enough air get into the engine to cool it down.

[@101deathcore]

good vid

[@郭明煌-z4b]

蠻漂亮的戰鬥機

[@ivanthegod49]

FINALLY

[@mochabear88]

neat

[@paulzimmermann2829]

Now play the Étendard and enjoy the DEFA cannons... It's fun trust me

[@Martti16]

B7A2 gameplay?

[@zheya6065]

Can you play the spitfire f mk 24 pls

[@rhettminer7381]

P-51 Hayche

[@Toenism]

What's wrong with the A21RB?

[@JayNDFTL]

It’s mostly a gun boat with no redeeming qualities, can’t turn, slow, bad roll rate, and horrific energy reten. It’s just the guns that make it redeemable

[@TheLazyKat]

​@@JayNDFTL not even the guns anymore cus the cracked 13mm get switched for normal 50 cals

[@JayNDFTL]

@@TheLazyKat lmao nvm

[@meepy2739]

Repair cost

[@rainsilent]

@@JayNDFTL A21RB can turn believe it or not. At least for a jet and only sub 400mph. So long as it isn't memeing with the gunpod at least.

[@britishbeef4890]

Have you seen how bad ADENs are in the recent patch? Specifically the HE belts, 0 damage.

[@kimjanek646]

All HE shells are bugged on the Dev server, afaik.

[@flashbaggins427]

Gaijin have broken all the air rb HE including airfields atm, so that's why nothing is happening.

[@thesaltyhotdog3761]

​@@flashbaggins427 well that's a bit of good news, airfield aa not working atm

[@lukaswhite362]

Defyn, the Ki-83 cooling isn't a problem if you use MEC, also manual supercharger gear go brrr

[@JayNDFTL]

He’s mentioned before that he just doesn’t bother with MEC iirc

[@DEFYN]

I am litterally using it in the video >.>

[@lukaswhite362]

@@DEFYN you know what, I'm blind in one eye and Im definitely going to play that card right now 😂

[@chickenjonte_]

5:15 P15H-aids 💀

[@JelqSmith]

What? He did nothing wrong.

[@leeham6230]

Please play the hurricane Mk IIb.

[@n4chos161]

dang really old vid

[@anneallison6402]

You praise too much the p51h for what I find it to be in game, also, have you seen aa got nerfed?

[@wetzel1628]

It’s the best all round prop fighter in game of course it deserves praise. It always does at least 2 things better than any other prop it faces, and often just does everything better than its opponent. (Climb, turn, speed) only the mk 24 and hornet can actually fight it 1vs1 and hope to win. This is assuming both pilots are good of course

[@anneallison6402]

@@wetzel1628 ofc it is, but people dunno how to play it

[@TheLazyKat]

​@@anneallison6402 ???still doesn't change the fact that it's an amazing plane

[@TheLazyKat]

​@@anneallison6402 people also don't know how to play P-39N and die constantly, so is that plane also bad now???

[@anneallison6402]

@@TheLazyKat no but honestly Im tired of Defyn calling it great when few play it right its practically not that good and its not like su-11, if you dont agree with me thats ok, everyone has their opinions anyway

[@juliuswalsetveit329]

Ki 83 with 2k alt advantage before starting a dogfight

[@irithylloldman6526]

The old jet engine sounds were better imo

[@mrqureshisigma]

Fowke wulf

[@tankrider6897]

now do the ki 109

[@bitofapickle]

Slap a Japanese flag on any plane, boom, instantly turns better. Seriously, why is it that every single Japanese plane turns so better regardless of its role?

[@martijn9568]

Because it isn't true. Ki-61s and the N1Ks are only about average in the turning department. And Ki-44s are below average. And the less said about the Ki-45s the better. Then there's the general rule for props that the higher the Br, the higher the speed, but at the cost of some manoeuvrability. But many Japanese aircraft are at least slightly overtiered. Hence, they manoeuver comparatively speaking better.

[@bitofapickle]

@@martijn9568 they're about average in handling when compared to other Japanese planes, you mean

[@rainsilent]

@@martijn9568 Not at all true. Ki-44s have great turn rates. Ki-61s and N1Ks also have, at worst, good turn rates. The Ki-45s actually have great turn rates for twin engined fighters.

[@rainsilent]

@@bitofapickle The reason for Japanese aircraft turning better is because of the philosophy of Japanese fighter doctrine. Japanese fighter doctrine was all about turn fighting. The moment you engage someone you turn to beat the opponent. As a result most every fighter design heavily emphasized turn fighting. Because of handling characteristics that comes from such a philosophy this also carried to all other designs because the Japanese wanted their bigger aircraft to have a similar generally ductile handling that their fighters exhibited. Case in point: part of the design requirements for the A6M and Ki-43 was that they had to be able to turn with a biplane while being able to break 300mph in level flight. This was thought to be impossible by most people. So much so that Mitsubishi (who designed the A6M) and Nakajima (who designed the Ki-43) were the only two companies to even draw up potential designs to the given specifications. The Ki-61 was seen as inferior by the Japanese compared to the Ki-43 (the I and II versions in game) because it didn't turn as well yet the US saw the Ki-61 as superior to the Ki-43 because it was faster. The Ki-84 was seen as an equal by the Japanese to the Ki-100 when flown against each other in mock dogfights because the Ki-100 beat the Ki-84 in a turn fight despite the fact that the Ki-84 was faster on the deck than the Ki-100 could go at crit alt and the Ki-84 could reach 5km in 4 minutes 15 seconds to the Ki-100's 6 minutes to 5km. Unsurprisingly the US saw the Ki-84 as vastly superior to the Ki-100.

[@martijn9568]

@Barbarie Alexandru Read the second paragraph. That's the most important bit. About the perceived "poor" turning quality of some Japanese aircraft is due to some aircraft only having a good turning circle or climb rate. When compared to aircraft that have both those other Japanese aircraft fall behind and makes those aircraft seem average.

[@POOPNUGGET19]

Im early!

[@issacp3747]

666th like😬

[@hakku9344]

playing stock planes is so terrible

[@altair3232]

Top 5 overrated planes and this one would sit on one of top places. Abomination not a fighter (heavy or not), strongly advised against. It's a Boat and without even a speck of energy retention in straight line or vertical. Paper thin dmg model, you get your wing tip yellow you literally start flying sideways. Slow, can't break thru 700km/h speed limit neither in straight line or in shallow dives (shallow my ass, 15 degrees aint shallow and even then it can't hold it together). Abysmal compression, needs 1500m to recover from 700km/h 90 degree dive, if you don't have this much, say hi to earth, you wont pull up. Playing Ki-83 feels like suffocating, you think you have all this space around you at your beck and call, but its illusion, your plain of combat range is practically claustrophobic. J5N1 beats this junk into oblivion apart from climb rate (which ain't really that much worse in 0 to 5000m threshold) Better guns, better dmg model, agile, has great vertical energy retention, fast and good diver, great elevator responsiveness in high speed dives, slats to help with low speed maneuvers, 20mm angled frontal armor with thick 70mm bullet proof glass at high angle allows your pilot to be hit 3 times by AP 20mm before he dies and stops 100% of american 0.50 AP rounds making your invulnerable to those unless from point blank range (0 to 100m we all know that if that going to happen you will die in ram anyway) and has 350 rpg for 20mm like huh man, you can bully people, it is type 2 cannon, it might be slow, but it hurts when it hits unlike Ho-5, and army 30mm is as strong as naval one. (same characteristics) But oh well Ki-83 is still a whole world better than this junk called J2M3/5 aka the worst fighters in whole japanese tech tree. I spaded every single japs prop and i am stubborn to make things work, while Ki-83 is decent for bomber hunting thanks to climb rate that will take you to 8km in no time and 30mm 80rpg cannons, the J2M3/5 is good for nothing. Trash guns, trash speed, trash energy retention, trash dive controls, sluggish, paper thin and climbs worse than spitfires and costs absurdle money for repair cost. J5N1>Ki-83>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>J2M3/5

[@JayNDFTL]

Nah

[@rainsilent]

If you think the J2M3 isn't good at all please ID me another Japanese fighter that can go toe to toe with a LF. IX Spit in a knife fight and successfully counter every move that the LF can make. Are the J2M3 and J2M5 over BRed? Yes, slightly. The J2M5 should be 5.0 and the J2M3 should be 5.3. The real abomination in the Japanese tree is the J2M4. That thing shouldn't be any higher than 4.3.

[@altair3232]

@@rainsilent Being able to counter one enemy and dying horribly to every other plane does not make plane any good. A damn Fw190 A8 can out climb you indefinitely, since you will lose power at altitude before him. Yes, he zoom climbs you climb, but there is fun part in this. If you give Fw190 enough of separation he will turn into you and push a head on to which to dodge with this brick you will have to pray to god. Thing with LF, it is slow in climb and not fast in straight line. I beat LF in his own game with Ki-87, i out climbed him at 10-5 degrees, moreover at 6-9km alt i was faster in climb than he in straight line, kinda same situation like in J2M vs Fw190 minus Ki-87 is a pile of shit. With enough speed and bit of luck you can beat LF in N1K series with flaps fully deployed, shit will hit the fan only when you burn all energy. And you telling me Ki-84 can't beat LF in maneuvers based fight in general? That would be strange given it do not compress at all unlike J2M and is faster than spit but also has amazing agility at low speeds with flaps on, and a lot better energy retention. During my time of mastering every damn japanese plane i do not remember any spit to be bane of my existence. It was Fw190 and any smart USA pilot in P51H or P47/38 Spits are slow, they are also turn-fighters like whole japs tech tree, they share characteristic of dog shit energy retention, light construction and decent climb rate. Also enlighten me how are you going to dodge the head on with spit in something that has no elevator authority like J2M? Since you won't be higher than him. J2M is pile of garbage, i know since i flown everything thoroughly. Slow, No elevator, Compresses to the point you can't pull 10 degrees in 1000m of alt lost (worst compression in jap fighter) Shitty compressor gears, early changes between 1st and 2nd (massive drop in power on altitudes), very massive gap between 2nd and 3rd gear/3rd gear do not offer any ground breaking performance. Type I cannons at 5.7 on plane that can't pull any lead thanks to elevator. Mix up between Type I and II that have drastically different ballistic and velocities. Low horsepower, at 6km it generates... 1100hp if i recall. Bf109G/K can do from 1500 to 1800 there. J2M3 will be completely screwed on that alt if enemy decides to climb, it will look like it is stalling in air having problem to go more than 250 IAS. I flown this shit, i am not biased for no reason, if i don't like Ki-83 and call it a "boat" i am still willing to play it time to time if i get "intercept x amount of bombers". On the other hand J2M is pile of garbage, it's place is in trash can, not my line up. I'm not going to touch it ever damn again. I wasted 300-400k f**king sl on repairing this worthless trash. LF vs J2M? I would faster take my chances in f**king Zero.

[@JayNDFTL]

@@altair3232 Not really

[@rainsilent]

@@altair3232 LF.IX is actually a good plane for the BR. If it can take the LF.IX it can take on most other opponents. "A damn Fw190 A8 can out climb you indefinitely" You are dumb af if you think this is true. The J2M3 can reach 32m/s in climb rate. It is one of the few props that can scare the P-51H in terms of climb rate. At 6km, where both the 190A8 and J2M3 are losing power due to alt, the J2M3 still has a better climb rate. "If you give Fw190 enough of separation he will turn into you and push a head on to which to dodge with this brick you will have to pray to god." Have you tried not being near stall? The J2Ms, sans the J2M4, are some of the most maneuverable props in its BR range. "Thing with LF, it is slow in climb" Ok, you are dumb af. The LF below 4km has one of the best climb rates in its BR range. LF in its name stands for Low-altitude Fighter. Above 5km its engine isn't any good so above 6km yes, the Ki-87 will beat it. Below 4km the LF.IX is faster, climbs significantly better and maneuvers significantly better than a Ki-87. Below 3km the LF.IX is one of the few props in the game that can actually stand toe to toe with the Yak-3U. "And you telling me Ki-84 can't beat LF in maneuvers based fight in general?" The Ki-84 has no hope against the LF.IX in a knife fight. "During my time of mastering every damn japanese plane" Given what you have said thus far you haven't mastered anything outside of complete nonsense. "something that has no elevator authority like J2M?" Every J2M has elevator authority. The J2M4 just doesn't have any sustained turning ability. The rest do. "J2M is pile of garbage, i know since i flown everything thoroughly." If you think the J2M3 is a pile of garbage than you have such a massive skill issue that you are the pile of garbage. This entire post of yours reads more like a massive skill issue than you having a lick of clue as to what you are actually talking about. You keep talking about combat above 6km when virtually nobody goes up there anymore. 90% of combat takes place below 5km, even up at 5.7. This is why the Ki-87 is one of the worst props in the game at the moment. It is complete trash below 6km. Is the J2M3 slow for the BR? Yes. But it is also one of the most agile and fastest climbing fighters below 5km. Is the plane no good above 5km? Yes, because it only has 2 supercharger gears. If the J2M3 has a 3rd gear the 3rd shouldn't exist as the J2M3 was a J2M2 with 2 more cannons added and the J2M2 only had 2 supercharger gears. The J2M5 has 3 gears that give it some capability above 5km. That 3rd gear still isn't that good on the J2M5. The J2M5 is also heavier and trades a notable amount of climb and turn for a little bit of speed and some performance above 5km. The J2M5 is worse than the J2M3 overall as a result. The J2M2 should be 5.0, The J2M3 should be 5.3 and the J2M5 should be 4.7-5.0.

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