Getting That Modern Metal/Djent Tone

[@mpsoldier31b]

I have been looking for a good metal/djent sound for a few months now. This is by far the most informative and realistic video I have seen up to this point! Thank you so much for posting this brother! I hope you continue to add more videos of setup points. High five for kicking ass!

[@HumanAbstractX]

Holy fuck, very nice tone, very tight playing. Comprehensive and well explained, amazing tutorial mate. The fact that you practically used free plugins in every instance makes this absolutely perfect!

[@MappingFreak]

Actually...... Look at the audio he's showing it's all choped up meaning edited .....Like ALOT it sounds good I'll give him that but tight playing ? Nope

[@faneguinoiseau8202]

The all choping thing is done even at a professionnal level in metalcore and djent production. From what I hear he's playing tight enough.

[@guitarist6494]

Holy shit you sound exactly like Walter Jr. from Breaking Bad hahaha

[@BrunaOneGirlBand]

You are goddamn right!

[@AnnaAssareth]

😂😂😂

[@cameroneve4960]

No he doesnt

[@BIueFalcon]

I don't recall Walter Jr. playing guitar tho...

[@delias17]

Hahahaha whaaaaat?!?!

[@Metalcorable]

"If you pick like a bitch, you're gonna get a bitch tone" ... awesome

[@ModernMetalProductions]

+Metalcorable credits to Brian Hood for that one!

[@ThatBeTheQuestion]

Well I'm screwed. XD

[@Straightedge63]

adding that power amp in the chain made a huge difference! thank you!

[@kantosina9962]

This has been the most helpful video yet. Thank you so much man!

[@michaeljoefox]

I can't tell if you're explaining something or asking questions?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Joe Smith TBH I'm not even sure 😂 sorry, it was my first video tutorial I've ever done.

[@michaeljoefox]

Ha ha, no need to be sorry, just giving you a hard time. I'm still having a hard time getting my tone dialed in, I can't get those mids to come out in a way I'm happy with. It's a frustrating game my friend. Have you used Amplitube 4 yet?

[@RonCecchetti]

all good EXPLAINERS ask QUESTIONS

[@alexkidd4979]

@@ModernMetalProductions I don't have a MacBook yet but could you do Eddie van Halen tone next

[@alexkidd4979]

@@ModernMetalProductions btw keep the work up

[@skybrid8502]

Thank you a lot! I spent a lot of time looking for that tight and fat tone, and here it is!

[@menonabhi123]

That's a great mix you got in your project man. I'd love to listen to more of your stuff! :)

[@sleepinggiant333]

Unreal

[@xLoxLoLex]

your project ROCKS

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Thank you :)

[@jpweidemoyer8544]

At first I thought you were playing your DI sound before editing everything. I was like that already sounds sick lol. Thanks for the tutorial! Found some other great plug-ins from my search. Good playing too.

[@JewishInjection]

So, I know nothing about DI, like I had to look up what he said. I also looked up Focusrite Saffire Pro 40. Why is he plugged into a DI and the Focusrite? Seems like a double audio interface to a true noob

[@jpweidemoyer8544]

@@JewishInjection I'll have to re-watch the video, but I believe at the time I commented that I was just noting how good I thought the production sounded prior to needing to edit anything (which he was already showcasing the final result). But you're right, the Focusrite is indeed an audio interface.

[@virra98]

dude that riff at the end is bangin'!

[@MiidniightG]

Veil of Maya sounding stuff, sickkkk

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Thanks man, I appreciate it! Im going to be releasing some music and more videos on here shortly :)

[@Vovoxa7]

Great vid dude! I've been using Podfarm for years and recently got a Schecter c1 classic so I gotta try this amazing tone you've come up with

[@TheSlamLord]

Do you should make more videos on metal music production, you're a very good teacher at this type of stuff and I thoroughly enjoyed creating this tone with this tutorial, hope to see more vids soon, have a great day!

[@ModernMetalProductions]

+Tech Tweaks Thank you! I apologize I havent had much time to make any new videos but I promise I'll have some more content in the next month or so for everyone!

[@TheSlamLord]

+Modern Metal Productions no worries I totally understand, can't wait :) is there an email I can reach you at? I would like to make you some artwork for your channel, maybe to make it look a little more professional and sick!

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Tech Tweaks That would be totally awesome! You can contact me at [e-mail] right now :)

[@TheSlamLord]

+Modern Metal Productions awesome I'll send ya an email, I'll make some designs today

[@RebuiltWithJordan]

Really great man! Thanks so much, looking forward to your next video!

[@lshreds1424]

Close your eyes and imagine Mclovin

[@mohitrahaman]

Fogell

[@doomzy8622]

😂

[@nathanstatham]

Holy crap this is sick!

[@dirtmanj7618]

Dood this is v helpful! That tone is lit af! Your track is lit as well! Thanks braj!

[@stanwilhelm]

Sounds great! First subscriber, yay :D

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Stan Wilhelm thanks man! I appreciate it :)

[@kumlayachaudhary6972]

कबादी मेतल

[@jeremiahsanchez9765]

This tone is amazing

[@danieldemayo6209]

Nice job. The gating is so crazy lol not really my thing but very cool sounding. You just made me realize I've been using guitar sims all wrong too....this whole time I haven't been using eq enough...

[@BadgerTeeth]

Awesome review man. Definitely very helpful!

[@djcj]

Awesome playing btw

[@nikolaswalter490]

could someone just upload the fx chain for Reaper if you got it?

[@HeyItsKora]

much love for you and what you do

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Thank you

[@NathanHarrisStudio]

I always wanted to know how to use that TPA-1 thanks for some insight!

[@izzate7]

This is awesome man!

[@kalmkaos1465]

Great vid. Have tried this and the tones are great, may actually switch to this rather than valve amps and cabs. The free impulse link doesn't work btw. The mod I have done on this technique is to only have the amp sim stuff on the track - gate/tse/Legion/TPA/IgniteIR - (The lepou IR only seemed to have mono->stereo option which I didn't want, just a mono, so used the Ignite IR instead). That's all I have on the track - get the recording, then bounce in place to a new track to render out an audio file. On the new track I put the EQs/comps and clean ups etc. Then the original sim track can be muted, disabled and hidden. For me that works better.

[@primarypenguin]

This is a great method that I have used as well. The only problem I ran into was the amount of CPU power required to run all of those plugins for several guitar tracks. Along with VST drums, bass plugins, and whatever else you may be using, my computer couldn't handle it. It would start like lagging out and I couldn't even play my mixes back to listen without rendering it out. It's kind of like you're gonna end up paying up somewhere, whether it be for the amp/axe-fx type stuff, or for a powerful computer to run all the free plugins

[@ModernMetalProductions]

+Taylor The Warlock Truth. When i first started using guitar impulses and amp sims I was using an old 2008 white macbook that could barely run the signal chain. But a good way to go about that is by bouncing each individual guitar track out and importing them into the project so you dont have to run the amp sim plugins on it. I have since built a computer with good specs so I dont have to worry about that nonsense anymore lol

[@Take-the-Ticket]

+Taylor The Warlock Half true really. Once you have a great computer, you will end up saving a lot with plugins / VSTs. They will save you having to buy bass amps, guitar amps, pedals, professional drumkits (along with a drummer that shows up for practice,) all of the various preamps and hardware compressors, etc. It is expensive to make music, but nothing like it used to be.

[@kalibeastok]

Awesome dude! What tuning are you using here?

[@hyperdazedesu7350]

where can i hear the full song?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

I'll be releasing it over the winter break!

[@TinyCatBand]

i wanna hear the song too, is it released yet?

[@marvinzimmermann_music3374]

Great video man! Greetings from Germany :)

[@voronOsphere]

Great Lesson and great riffing to go with it!

[@legnazeg]

yeah man, sounds pretty good, best!

[@metalion667]

Sounds great man, I use a similar method except one stereo side I use bias fx instead of the multiple plug ins, I find it to be a little warmer. How do you get the real short stops in the rhythm playing? Is it just edited audio or is there a special method? Anyway great vid and great progressive playing.

[@bluestreak5172]

I know this is late, but try using a noise gate. Turn the attack and release all the way down, and turn the threshold down until you hear those short stops.

[@bluestreak5172]

Also, it looks like there is some kind editing going on....

[@Return2TheLiving]

@@bluestreak5172 this is how you would approach it live, and/ or have a kill switch. You are right in that the audio is cut to pieces, to tighten up to the max.

[@rosukiii.]

I'd love to know if the drums were recorded or programmed. Awesome tutorial and killer track!

[@madmurray89]

Holy crap that riffage was sick!

[@BrianIglesiasROT8records]

good job man thanks for sharing another one for the metalheads! \m/

[@lou1016]

That gate is hitting WAY too hard man, grats on your first video though!

[@hadesinolympusband115]

i think its pretty perfect. and its apparent that he cut the tracks up so the choppy part wasnt the gate doing all the work

[@SLAMSTERDAMN]

Good vid, bro. THX & kudos for producing a Dude-Next-Door share knowledge channel, ESPECIALLY 1 on modern metal/Djent.

[@jordangenge6417]

sounded sick man. I personally use TSEX50 ever since i saw brian hoods vid. But i learned a bit here about EQ'ing too cheers. :)!

[@brahmascience1044]

Dude where can i find this song of yours , its totally insane !

[@pmpin8ez612]

Sounds amazing! Thank you!!!

[@simenandreas]

Nice! Just a thought about the drums - mix the kick like it sounds more like in the room the guitars. It is very dry at the moment. And perhaps a brighter snare with a little more reverb to make it last longer

[@satansfittesleker]

+Simen Andreas Knudsen Well as a drummer myself i would say that its aaaaaall about personal preference ;) what you like someone else might dont like, like what you just said now.

[@ModernMetalProductions]

+Kaspar Marius Jota Thanks for the feedback. I have been working the drum tone. The drums in this video were superior drummer, which is usually what I use for writing/tracking. I record myself using my acoustic kit for final recordings.

[@jshubbell]

I'm a little confused about why you are high-passing and low-passing 3 times (ProQ, SSL, ProQ again on the bus.) Why not just do it once? The second and third passes are just introducing more phase shift while not really changing the tone, right? Thanks for sharing.

[@naomisalama430]

Usually highpass is 12db cut on those frequencies, if you want to cut them more you have to use another filter.

[@theextremistmetal]

Nice sound, very interesting video

[@titmusspaultpaul5]

nice sound mate.... well done from downunder

[@airaidmedia3821]

For sure digin this video man, good work. Would like to do a walk through of the guitar bus.. that's where the sound/tone is really at, but what do i know? LOL... what's a good WAVES substitute for the VMR? anything you can recommend?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

A waves substitute for VMR I would say would be either Kramer tape or NLS. I generally use the guitar bus to sum the guitars together so I can work with them combined. It saves CPU power on your computer and is a little more convenient.

[@airaidmedia3821]

agreed, good call man. I dig the NLS for sure, good shit

[@KelmoMusic]

why cut everything at 130 with pro q, but boost at 123 with the ssl?

[@oleksandrkostenko5173]

great video, man!! keep going. And what the noise gate do you use?

[@Dampfwalzi]

dude that song is nice

[@gotojun8943]

Great video!! I love the sound so much! One question, I couldn't find the files you're using in the impulse plugin. Where can I get them?? Thx!!!!!!

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Pretty sure theyre called "Catharsis" impulses. you load those into the impulses response plug in.

[@travisrogers9979]

Awesome tutorial. Has helped greatly. Guitar ? for you .... Are you using active pickups and is your Ibanez neck through ?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

No my Ibanez has two pieces. Its an iron label with stock EMG 707 pickups.

[@djcj]

Super awesome thank u

[@123JimmyTheCookie]

Sounds amazing! I'm guessing the drums are programmed yes?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Yessir!

[@Agonystt]

Which pickups are you using ? Loved it !

[@odedflysher]

Hi, i am doing the exact things you did in this video, but the EQ, that i don't know how to use, and i'm getting a noisy sound, extremly different sound compare to what i want, How to solve it?

[@cwmmetal]

Love your videos bro! Any chance of getting a tutorial for you drum sound? What are ya using man EZD?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

For this song specifically I'm using superior drummer and Trigger for the snare and bass drum tracks. I can definitely work on a tutorial in the near future !

[@ryanybos]

Song is awesome blended yet choppy keeps even the ADD attention span paying attention to whats next. Nice one

[@gavinjuge1961]

Sick video, dude. I'm trying to get a djenty tone similar to this (not necessarily exactly the same or anything). I'm currently using an iron label RGAIX7 with a 25.5' scale, and I can't seem to get a tight low G#. It just sounds flubby. I've done virtually everything you can do in Bias FX to try to fix that. I'm using a 68 gauge string, so I don't think that's the problem. In your experience, would that be more a product of the pickups of the plugin? Thanks

[@bennywst]

Hey man great video it helped me a lot! Is the song out yet? I would love to get it it sounds sick!

[@SpartanMark12]

hey guys i can't find a working Lecab2 component, can someone tell me another one I could use to take its place.

[@ModernMetalProductions]

+SpartanMark12 What DAW are you on? There are a few others. Ignite amps nadIR and KeFIR also work.

[@SpartanMark12]

Im using garage band, thanks for responding.

[@tomix1970pl1]

+SpartanMark12 Heavy Vibration Studio PL, i am using All of them in my production but Positive Grid at the moment wins on the market in my opinion.Share your opinion kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYaVaYiVnL5jsLc

[@TribeofYahawadahYasharal]

+Modern Metal Productions how do i get my amp sims onto cubase 8 elements

[@javiermora98]

Woowwww!! Saludos desde Mexico, GRACIAS!

[@bennyglosser2746]

This is indeed a killer djent tone ... I did not clear out how you came to that great stereo tone at the end. Have you added additional stereo effects or different settings for left/right channel, or did you only play your track twice?

[@SplinteredCompany]

I do exactly what you do, but I can never the the eq right. It just sounds a little more listenable when I do it, as opposed to yours.

[@Unanythang]

awesome tone. I don't have waves plugins and don't have money for them, is there any alternatives that would work instead?

[@tmmmedia731]

Need help with string gauges. I'm in drop G# with 7 string 26.5 inch scale and a musicman 5 string need string gauge recommendation for.both please

[@Imissmyoldusername]

If I download TSE audio, I only get VST files which are not compatible with garageband. Do I have to do something to be able to use the plugins?

[@TiGiPiT]

Make more Metal/Rock tuts buddy. Nice vid.

[@LAPALMAWORLD]

fucking awesome man! I love the composition as well, do you have any finished song yet? I would love to hear it!!

[@ModernMetalProductions]

I'll be releasing a version soon !

[@salvatorepisano4078]

Can you do a video explaining how to edit Djent to get that choppy sound? Ive heard Gates do it, but I cant find any videos on the way to track and edit djent guitars

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Salvatore Pisano yeah for sure! I’ll be back this Thursday to work on more videos so I can add this to the list.

[@Alboid]

sick tone man! can you tell how to install this tse on logic, im having an issue on it!

[@sinner00000]

great stuff mate. what is your tuning actually?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

+Adrian Sinner Tuning is Drop A using an Ibanez 7 string.

[@MattiaBorille]

You could make a video how to mix Metal Guitar Bass? Thanks

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Oh I plan to soon!

[@dougtesch4064]

your style of writing is great and awesome to listen to...question ..when i download the plugins i don't know how to use them in logic pro 9 .. what is the process to using them? any help thanks

[@ModernMetalProductions]

You have to make sure to drag the .component files into the designated library folder on your computer. Google's got the answer for you ;)

[@UglyTheDuckling]

Is the track out yet? That sounded rad.

[@ModernMetalProductions]

not yet! I'll be working on it over this winter :)

[@danielrincon4954]

Hi! your work it's very awesome, I really like it. I Just have one problem... I'm using Studio One 3 into the Win64 and specially the LeCab it doesn't recognize by the studio one. Can you help me? tnx.

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Sorry for the late reply. Try ignite amps NadIR. if not, just search impulse response loader on google. haha

[@ogdooh]

I've always wondered, since you get such a nice filtered and tight sound with all the possibilities with the audio interfaces, how is it possible to even come close to produce that sound while playing live? It must be hard to get that tight definition with little gain right?

[@9696Punk]

why little gain?

[@ogdooh]

As I said, gain muddies up the sound quality and if you go with too much you won't get tone definition. It's better to get used to playing with as low gain as you possibly can, it will be more challenging but produce a tigther sound.

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Axe fx, pedals. Its not too hard. The only thing that really changes the tone is the mid range. Usually an ibanez tube screamer will get you the mid range you need for a tight tone.

[@andreasandre1888]

very very great:) guitar that he used? 8-string / 6 strings, pick up?

[@Amanet13]

I love the guitar sound,by the way i Use Logic Pro X,and Line 6 HD Pro X,,,,,,,Ibanez M80M,,,any sugestions of useful free plugins or low cost.And i was wondering how to make that stutter guitar sound,,,,thx

[@ModernMetalProductions]

A lot of the stuttering guitar sound you speak of comes from editing and gates. My suggestion would be to apply a heavy gate before the tube screamer, and one after as well.

[@subratachatterjee7176]

pls make a video on how to use impulse in recording

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Subrata Chatterjee thanks for the suggestion ! I’ll be back in business this Thursday so I’ll drop a quick video about that

[@shizumaruofficial]

Any of these plugins won't work with Reaper?

[@JewishInjection]

All of them will

[@davidjulian4575]

What is the song called that you use to show us the guitar tone in the mix? Sounds great :)

[@ModernMetalProductions]

+David Julian Its an original I'm working on! I'll have details soon for everyone. Thanks for the kind words

[@davidjulian4575]

Sure, thank you for your tutorial :)

[@historiewarteuwagi]

Hi. Can you please share the impulses that you are using in this tutorial? Thanks

[@ModernMetalProductions]

They're the Catharsis impulses and they're free!

[@prestonlambeth9368]

So simple, but so powerful. Love how the guitars sound in the mix! Keep rocking out man your product sounds incredible. Agree w/ the comment "if you pick like a bitch, you get a bitch tone". Now, the only question would be, if you have something like an Eleven rack, or an Axe FX, what types of effects chain would you use? Would you just bus directly to the guitar " bus"? Or would you add extra gate on the raw track, extra EQ, etc? maybe for the next video :) Good job dude!

[@UncleMitchChannel]

Great tutorial!

[@ThomasCremier]

Hi there !! Super quality sound ! Could you send me a kick sample of the kick drum used in the music Please ? :)

[@ModernMetalProductions]

I cant sorry! Im using purchased samples from various producers.

[@ThomasCremier]

Modern Metal Productions ok ! Even if you sell it or telling the ones you're using ?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

I believe Im using kicks from the Trigger Platinum bundle from Slate! Kicks 11 and 14 I think.

[@nickp7269]

Do you have a band/music page? Love the sound!

[@ModernMetalProductions]

+Nicholas Prus hey man, thanks a lot! Yes I do, you can check me out on soundcloud & Facebook at [url].com/nocturnalaudioca ! My personal soundcloud is /keeganokazaki. cheers!

[@aJigglyRhino]

Any hints on which impulse you used on the cab? I'm the lepou loader didn't come with any.

[@ModernMetalProductions]

Check the comments man! It was the catharsis impulses i think, scroll down and check. Someone mentioned it

[@aJigglyRhino]

Oh shit I'm worthless thanks!! Tone is sick btw been looking for a different amp sim. not diggin pod farm

[@JBrooksNYS]

When I use Lecab, it turns it into a stereo signal. How do I prevent this?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

You should have the option to load in Lecab as a mono plugin, not stereo. Regardless it shouldnt matter as long as you have the impulses in mono. If youd rather, you could try different impulse loaders, like nadIR.

[@JBrooksNYS]

the only option it gives me when I load is "Mono>Stereo" and it automatically creates a stereo output in logic

[@ModernMetalProductions]

hmm, maybe lecab automatically changes it to stereo. Try NadIR, basically the same but with less impulse loading options.

[@jorgemm88]

Hey bro nice video, what drum secuencia are you using ?

[@55Ignis]

I would add some verb to the drums. not a lot but just to increase that wall of sound.

[@obberdepp]

great vid!

[@tomcannell3669]

poulin lecab2 is not available anymore :( any replacement?

[@thewest6128]

Can you show how to get a nice lead sound?

[@KyleThompsonHBBC]

What is the bus you mention at the end before the demo? Is that like the post EQ etc? How do you do that

[@ModernMetalProductions]

If you look on my track with all the plugins in it, you'll see at the bottom (just above the levels/fader) theres a box that says Stereo Out. Change that to Bus 1 or whatever number, and it'll instantly make a bus in your mixer.

[@Megahellastylin]

Thanks for this. I have been struggling to get this sound but thanks to this video now I am very close to what I am looking for. All I did was find all of the plugins online, added them to my VST library, chained them in the same order with the same settings shown in the video and BAM, there I am, very close, only needing small tweaks and some EQ to get a great sound. Make sure you obtain and load the wav files into the LeCab2 or it will do nothing and you will get no sound out of the chain. And like the video says, you WANT the LeCab2 (or something like it) because the improvement in sound is tremendous. I used the Catharsis Cabinet Impulse files from here: metalhomerecording.com/best-free-guitar-cab-ir/ I am using Reaper, running on a midrange windows laptop, with a Steinberg UM22-mk22 digital interface, and a cheap used Fender Squire Bullet Strat from a Pawn Shop.

[@zack987100]

hey man so i downloaded all the plug ins and followed what you did exactly step by step, but for some reason the tone sounds really weird and i think ive narrowed it down to the LeCab plug in. it sounds like it does in your video when its turned off except mine is on, i was wondering if maybe you knew why it is doing that?

[@ModernMetalProductions]

make sure you have a cab impulse file loaded into lecab ! you can find free ones on the web like Catharsis's impulse response pack

[@zack987100]

+Modern Metal Productions thanks so much man!