Gevorg, or on Being Pagan in Christian Armenia

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Chai Khana

Chai Khana

7 жыл бұрын

In Armenia national identity and religion are intertwined - you are Armenian, hence you are Christian. Gevorg Ghazaryan started questioning this postulate when he was still a schoolboy. Now 28, he defines himself as a pagan and adheres to the traditions of the country’s pre-Christian paganism - he regularly attends ceremonies in the colonnaded temple of Garni, in central Armenia, which has been the renowned symbol of Armenia before conversion to Christianity in 301 AD.
The journalist-soon-to-be-archeologist believes that neo-Paganism reconnects with the authentic Armenian roots - followers like Gevorg honor Vahagn, God of fire and war in ancient Armenia. According to the 2011 census, 5,434 Armenians identify themselves as pagans, the majority of them in Yerevan.
Gevorg does not preach his faith - while people occasionally question his beliefs, he never has.
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@karinanalbandyan3009
@karinanalbandyan3009 7 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in pagan Armenia, because the pagan Armenian gods are native to Armenia. Christianity is foreign Christianity comes from Judaism. It’s common knowledge by now. The fact that Judeo-Christianity has Jewish roots is commonsense! The Bible is full of information on Israelites. It’s all about children of Israel this children of Israel that. The Bible says zero about Armenians, or Slavs/Europeans or any other people. The Bible is all about Jewish mythology, Jewish history. All of the disciples of Christ were Jews. Christ was a Jew. There’s nothing wrong with that, there’s nothing wrong with Jews, but what I’m saying is that Christianity is for Jews, all forms of Abrahamic religion had the same Jewish roots. Why would anyone want to worship yahweh/Jehovah anyway? Christians everywhere assume that the god of the Bible is so just, loving and merciful but if you read the Bible you’ll learn that the god of the Bible is actually the opposite of merciful, Just, peaceful or loving. The god of Bible is actually very bloodthirsty, jealous, merciless, and psychopathic. Why is it so invisible to Christians that Christianity and all forms of Abrahamism were the earlier forms of globalism. Basically you can be from any part of world, you can be from any nation, any ethnic group, any race and still be a Christian/Catholic/orthodox/Islam/Judaism. Because these religions are anti-ethnic, anti-native, anti-indigenous in their nature, religions of Abraham are globalist. Prior to the spread of Christianity/and other forms of Abrahamism, all native ethnic tribes and kingdoms had their own native ethnic spirituality and traditions. It was an ancestral folk Faith, it was nature-based spirituality
@Rus-bw2oq
@Rus-bw2oq 6 жыл бұрын
Karina Nalbandyan :christian religion is a religion made for political purposes and you are absolutely true .Chrstianity is foreign.
@rosamorte5296
@rosamorte5296 6 жыл бұрын
Согласна с тобой, Карина. Христианство не наша религия
@josweydsouza5940
@josweydsouza5940 5 жыл бұрын
Do christain is a pagan denomination
@karinanalbandyan3009
@karinanalbandyan3009 4 жыл бұрын
Karna I agree with you. They teach us that Christianity was welcomed by the world with open arms, but nothing could be further from the truth. Christianity has a bloody evil past that they are hiding from us. All forms of Abrahamic religions. Armenians just like other indigenous peoples around the world had their own native pagan gods and goddesses, their own native ethnic spiritual heritage, and traditions. I do not identify Armenia with Christianity as most Armenians do. I am half Armenian, half Russian. I was born in Russia and raised there until age 13 at which point my parents moved us to USA Florida. both sides of my heritage the Russian, and the Armenian originally had their own native spiritual heritage and gods, until Christianity was forced on them. This happened to many indigenous people around the world. The old tribal lifestyle, small kin-based societies were destroyed, and people were made to forget how to live self-sufficiently. Christianity brought their own Christian rulers. Those agents of reformers, and placed them on the throne of all countries that they dominated. Today we have large countries, nations with government systems.
@cherylolypop
@cherylolypop 3 жыл бұрын
@@karinanalbandyan3009 Karina-jan, you are bringing tears to my eyes, very proud of your way of thinking, I wish more people could see what we can see!
@swampperson2577
@swampperson2577 4 жыл бұрын
anyone know any resources for a young hye aghchik like me to learn about his beliefs? i was raised christian but i want to restore our ancestors faith.. i just cant find much about it
@skajan.7467
@skajan.7467 3 жыл бұрын
avesta.org is the best website for Zoroastrian faith, եթե հարց լինի կարաս հարցնես :)
@BiglariProductions
@BiglariProductions 3 жыл бұрын
It will lead you destruction and pain.
@Texasmade74
@Texasmade74 5 ай бұрын
​@@skajan.7467Armenians were never Zoroastrian
@yanniesimard5889
@yanniesimard5889 2 жыл бұрын
My ancestors are Armenian and I am Pagan and would love to learn more
@paulinethierry1243
@paulinethierry1243 2 жыл бұрын
same, how did your researches go ? do you have any topics to share ? :)
@armeniagag
@armeniagag 2 жыл бұрын
Փառք Վահագնին
@xrpsilver7129
@xrpsilver7129 5 жыл бұрын
I am fascinated with Armenian paganism. It could be one of the worlds oldest forms of paganism.
@yaruqadishi8326
@yaruqadishi8326 2 жыл бұрын
It's not but it's old like anatolian Pagan Ways and Greco Roman it's kin to the west. Tuscany Pagans from armenia to spain/portugal are awesome.
@gokor356
@gokor356 4 жыл бұрын
Where can i get the nemrut souvenir replica at 00:12 ?
@user-tg6ug6nc2o
@user-tg6ug6nc2o 5 жыл бұрын
Սխալ է: Ավանդական ամանորը տոնվել է Նավասարդի Արեգին, այսինքն Օգոստոսի 11-ին: Պարսիկներն են տոնել և դեռ տոնում Նովրուզը գարնան գիշերահավասրին: Wrong. Armenians traditionally celebrated New Year on the day of Areg of the month Navasard (August 11). It's the Persians that have historically and still do celebrate Nowruz on the Spring Equinox.
@redsamson5185
@redsamson5185 2 жыл бұрын
Peace to Armenian Pagans. Peace to Anti-Fascists
@KataDaemonaEaftou
@KataDaemonaEaftou 3 жыл бұрын
Stay true to your ancestors and embrace your ethnic religion! Greetings and respect from a pagan ethnic Greek
@KataDaemonaEaftou
@KataDaemonaEaftou 2 жыл бұрын
@Mocanu Stefan Ι am not a monotheist. I have not to be saved from something. But thanks for your interest.
@KataDaemonaEaftou
@KataDaemonaEaftou 2 жыл бұрын
@Mocanu Stefan Life is short, indeed. That's why I only look the essential without judging and mocking anothers' religious view and without trying to convert via youtube comments some stranger to my religion. It's great if you have find your peace in Christianity. Keep it up. I have found mine in Hellenismos. Btw I like Romania. Mircea Eliade was a great thinker.
@KataDaemonaEaftou
@KataDaemonaEaftou 2 жыл бұрын
@Mocanu Stefan Vlad Tepes and Constantinos Palaiologos, our post-medieval heroes against Turks, were excommunucated by the Christian church.
@KataDaemonaEaftou
@KataDaemonaEaftou 2 жыл бұрын
@Mocanu Stefan Never mind, it' ok. Οrthodoxy and Catholicism have indeed many relics from grecoroman paganism (likewise Shia Islam from pre-islamic Persia). But these are only on the surface. Their deepest essense is very different from that which you call "neopaganism" (Ι'm not neopagan, I have just returned to the religion of my forefathers). I believe that the Cosmos is eternal (not ex nihilo created by one God), full of divinity and also believe in the sanctity of Nature.
@lizardlizrn9185
@lizardlizrn9185 7 жыл бұрын
respect to all Armenians, no matter what religion
@narekarutyunyan9657
@narekarutyunyan9657 7 жыл бұрын
NO single religion should be connected to Armenian identity. We should embrace all genetically Armenian Muslim, Pagan, Mormon, and all Christian branches (Catholic, Jehov's Witness, Orthodox, etc.) Buddhists, and let them know that they are Armenian first and their religion is a personal choice and that's it!! All of us should be LOYAL to our nationality first and NOT allow domestic or foreign theories of God or spirituality to break us up and sow the seeds of self-sabotage.
@stefanpavlovic4534
@stefanpavlovic4534 5 жыл бұрын
NA NA maybe you are not even Armenian who knows who were your ancestors, how are you even sure!?
@fahik
@fahik 4 жыл бұрын
i dont mind any religion for Armenia besides Islam, a Muslim Armenia is like a slap for our culture.
@uzumaki81.
@uzumaki81. 3 жыл бұрын
Disagreed we can't just let stuff like this to happen then we will lose whole Armenia it will destroy Armenias identity
@fahik
@fahik 3 жыл бұрын
@Zhefff Hurrnklle my comment was 11 months, now my view changed, religion is a terminal cancer at all and blockades the development of a society
@KB-eb8dj
@KB-eb8dj 3 жыл бұрын
You’re lost. How can you stick to nationality when its always changing? God never changes, He has always been and always will be. We rely on Him, and that’s what saves us.
@Sarke2
@Sarke2 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video and Gevorg is such a nice guy, i never imagined i would see Armenian pagan, yes in my head when you say Armenia christianity is in my mind at first but this is nice to see
@asalaarmenia9707
@asalaarmenia9707 3 жыл бұрын
Armenian Zoroastrian Armenian pagans Armenian apostolics Armenian polytheihsms are very older
@TheBelilu
@TheBelilu 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo!!!! We need more of this kind of truth from our people.
@BradSmith-er1ud
@BradSmith-er1ud 5 жыл бұрын
belilu belilu agree brethren idk why but someone is trying to keep us away from our knowledge but we need to keep searching for the light
@suren2313
@suren2313 4 жыл бұрын
Hay ARya-AR-Men-atsi yeah your profile picture speaks opposite
@firefox4716
@firefox4716 3 жыл бұрын
This bullshit can happen in your dreams. Armenia will stay Christian and the 1st Christian country
@vanonymous6461
@vanonymous6461 3 жыл бұрын
@@firefox4716 †
@chikal9008
@chikal9008 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with him we Armenians should stick with our Native Armenian origin religion, we were Armenian pegan long before we were forced to become Christians by 1 king.
@uzumaki81.
@uzumaki81. 3 жыл бұрын
No one forced them
@firefox4716
@firefox4716 3 жыл бұрын
No one forced us idiot. This “king ” just didn’t allow Christians being persecuted, and than look, we all converted intentionally to Christianity. And it’s not because something is older than it’s right,, Armenia is better Christian, without regard in thy Christianity is the truth. We were acting like fukin animals and we were killing each other and living in chaos, but thank God we became Christians, leaving behind these stupid illogical beliefs
@KB-eb8dj
@KB-eb8dj 3 жыл бұрын
@@firefox4716 thank you for your comment. I can’t believe there are Armenians like this, no wonder there is so much chaos happening to our country.
@CyrusCadusi
@CyrusCadusi 3 жыл бұрын
Митраизм?
@skajan.7467
@skajan.7467 3 жыл бұрын
Зороастризм
@sssssssssss5947
@sssssssssss5947 Жыл бұрын
@@skajan.7467 Is fake
@antonbeats9777
@antonbeats9777 Жыл бұрын
@@skajan.7467 Armenians were NEVER Zoroastrian
@omersimsekk
@omersimsekk 4 ай бұрын
@@antonbeats9777How?
@user-kz7rf1vf2n
@user-kz7rf1vf2n 6 жыл бұрын
Շատեք դանդաղում միքիչ արագացնելե պետք։մեր հավատքն վերակագնելա պետք վոր մեր ծովից ծով հայաստանելետ բերենք
@MariAmmaSar
@MariAmmaSar 3 жыл бұрын
Lord Agni - Hindu God of fire
@BiglariProductions
@BiglariProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Fake.
@vanonymous6461
@vanonymous6461 3 жыл бұрын
The Truth Is Christianity†
@sssssssssss5947
@sssssssssss5947 Жыл бұрын
CHRISTIANITY IS DEAD!
@joahua122
@joahua122 Жыл бұрын
Who cares anymore you can worship that Jew
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