GFORCE AR 12 SHOTGUN from Palmetto State Armory

[@aabb76239]

A few issues with this video: * Recommended break-in period with heavy loads (1500fps, 3" shells). Shooter starts with superlight birdshot and goes right to jam city * Shooter seems surprised when his price quoted "$25" airsoft reflex site falls apart when affixed to a 12ga shotgun. * Around 9:40 shooter puts a round into battery, notices the shroud and foregrip are not locked down/secured, and proceeds directly into near suicidal gun safety violations. * The cherry on top (yes this part is petty) - misses a propane tank sized target with 5 shots from a shotgun while 15 feet away :)

[@andrettski8686]

Agreed, this guy needs to go take firearms safety courses, rinse-repeat...rinse-repeat........

[@RookieMistakeYT]

Yeahhh I’m more disappointed in the guy’s gun knowledge (or lack thereof) than the gun. PSA is solid! Their customer service is superb and they offer great gear at reasonable prices. Also idk how you managed to miss that from 12-15ft away but it’s safe to say I don’t think you’re scaring anyone away from robbing you with this video so please don’t dox yourself

[@BLUDSHOTiZ]

1400 fps is recommended for break in 1350 after.

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

His hand never once crossed the muzzle.

[@tbranzell]

These gas guns that are fed with MKA 1919 magazines need 1300+FPS ammo in order to function properly. Preferably shoot these with 1400+fps for the first 50-100 rounds to really break in the gun, then they'll run a lot better with lighter ammo. Also, gas-operated shotguns with a piston-driven system do not like to run dirty... you should clean and lube the piston and piston tube after about 200 rounds or so.

[@thedailywin537]

This is one of the more illustrative examples of the perils of removing barriers to entry. "Anyone can post their content!" is not a boast...nor is what we see in this video.

[@antoinebraid4371]

The fact that you played with the loaded weapon I wouldn't trust your opinion about water

[@wandahelmer1038]

First off, never ever take a firearm to the range without FIRST a disassembly and clean and lubricate the firearm inspection is most important for all who are around the firearm. You can't blame a new firearm for lack of your own due diligence.

[@lmErnest]

Appreciate your opinion

[@JSTAR585]

His comment wasn't a opinion it was a straight fact.

[@vonklaus2947]

Amen.

[@JohnnyBravo02]

You can’t blame the firearm but you can blame the manufacturer. Yes you should do your own due diligence but the company’s professional QC should be better than the average consumers

[@schmacintyre6099]

Anyone else cringe when he was messing with the muzzle with a fully loaded mag and one in the chamber 😬

[@michaelstraughn3465]

He switched to safe, just before messing around with it.

[@hamboney187able]

Yes total butt pucker moment for me too

[@user-ev4pb9xj7e]

@@michaelstraughn3465yes, switching to “ safe” is a fool proof way to mess around with a loaded gun😂😂😂😂 your just as clueless as this guy in the video 😂😂😂

[@TheColonelAutumn]

​@@michaelstraughn3465 rule one of firearm safety is treat every gun like its loaded.

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

Yeah look how bad it turned out for him, huh?

[@BLUDSHOTiZ]

I ran 1400 fps steel shot to break in and had little issue. The only issue I observed was the bolt release was sticky, but it went away after a few mags were run through it. Decent shotgun for $200

[@scottoption1368]

I have the GFORCE 99 DLX and oiled and racked it 1000 times and all issues disappeared. I can fire 1250FPS without issues. I had experienced a light primer strike only a few times and attribute to ammo.

[@grllaspeak]

high brass, 1300+fps that's standard. leave the action open when you store semi shotguns.

[@gearbarrel6237]

Im a newbie- so the bolt should be locked back in storage?

[@OGWolfofAI]

Same question. you're saying always leave the the bolt open?

[@greggarnold9427]

Be nice....his first gun.

[@derekboudreaux3257]

This dude is something else

[@mengkhang1037]

This is the same type of person that also looks straight down a loaded weapon to see if its chambered with finger on the trigger.

[@twolak1972]

Hey , they recommend you run hi brass loads for break in You run those crappy low brass junk and complain about the hin toll you feed it hi brass and it rocks them DUHHHHH

[@Jailoyal1]

I did research before I brought this AR12 but this true off of google. We highly recommend using 1400 FPS or Higher Velocity Ammunition on this Firearm for at least the first 100 rounds during the “break-in period”. 🤷🏾

[@saveamerica1343]

I watched this video several times to make sure I was seeing it correctly before commenting, this is exactly why you hear of accidental shootings or death. This person has zero idea on correct handling of firearms. Notice he mishandles firearm while fully loaded. Trys to fix defect at muzzle while NEVER unloading. Not sure of quality of firearm but I'm POSITIVE this IS NOT the way to handle a loaded firearm. I just hope he was self filming or he put others at danger.

[@larrywilson6555]

I will get mine this week. First I will disassemble the gun clean and oil it. I will break it in with high velocity shells. I feel confident the gun will work as expected

[@lmErnest]

I need to get mine out, but I've been so busy. Thanks for watching 👀

[@jordanplain6303]

Where you able to fix the muzzle?@@lmErnest

[@lmErnest]

G force send me a muzzle brake. It doesn't fit over the barrel like the original. I like the muzzle brake it has spikes.

[@cutleg6633]

Having the same issue with the barrel shroud and the gas chamber O-ring was missing purchased mine from PSA also customer service is a joke

[@lmErnest]

I spoke with customer service they said they're going to send me a new choke.

[@cutleg6633]

@@lmErnest in a email they told me that didn’t have any more

[@lmErnest]

@@cutleg6633 it's on back order

[@cutleg6633]

@@lmErnest good news

[@terrykunde8811]

I have the same gun. It's a piece of crap jams all the time. I sent it back and they said they repaired it. It's a 600 dollar bat

[@RocksNRuts4]

safety goes off when READY to shoot not as u walk over, then u didnt re safety on 1st jam, then picked up a hot shell......read up boss

[@chadfavreau8892]

Probably shouldn't do that with a loaded firearm

[@darrinfry2251]

These are professionals pay attention people

[@YUJIRO]

Uhh, the problem isn't gforce. . Uhhhh. . I've had this firearm for almost 3 years and have only had these issues with low brass 1200fps when I was shooting sporting clays (made the old guys grumpy). But uhh, I didnt do that until way after the 100 round 1400fps break in period using ONLY high brass 00. I also had that problem with the muzzle brake. . The tool and some loctite fixed it

[@mr.incredabull3493]

Wow, this guy needs a few gun classes before somebody get hurt...

[@BossBoss-jw6uj]

Dude, u been in that gun? Seems like human incompetence to me

[@bobphillips9309]

So...what's the difference between a "GF99-DLX 12" and an AR 12, I have an GF99-DLX 12 and I am NOT seeing ANY differences.

[@lmErnest]

Really, it comes down to personal preference. The one advantage of the AR is the rails. So it's easy to attach optic, flashlight, and so on.

[@yjk7676]

same problem with mine I saw they have long break ins and everyone saying run high brass ammo to break it in is crazy because it shouldn't have to it should shoot fine from the box am I wrong?

[@lmErnest]

No you're not wrong I totally agree

[@JSTAR585]

You're wrong

[@yjk7676]

@@JSTAR585 I think you’re wrong that’s a bad brand if it doesn’t shoot good from the box after you oil it . Most guns are already oiled up when you get them.

[@leadfoot97]

Break it in, b4 you give up on it or label it a shitty buy js

[@1975RIFRAF]

Mine eats everything After following the mfg brake in 150 round over 1400fps

[@user-ev4pb9xj7e]

Hope he wasn’t trying to hit that white object that was 20 foot in front of him, even without using his fancy “ red dot” on a shotgun 😂😂😂😂

[@bigbadjohnpesek9894]

damn........im. liking my jts 12 ak more every day.

[@bigbadjohnpesek9894]

and after break in it shoots high and low brass.

[@johnswick9507]

The best semi auto shotgun. Glad I bought the JTS 12 AK as well. Love it.

[@JSTAR585]

I concur JTS 12 AK rocks everything.

[@donaldornelas]

I love my jts 12 also.

[@Sixsix561]

Look like you’re having a gas issue, the gun should come with other gas cylinders for low brass and high brass

[@billgrivette8047]

Ernest, I just received one of these, and the barrel shroud did the exact same thing. It was over tightened upon assembly, and stripped the very fine threads on the end of the barrel. How did you get the problem remedied?

[@lmErnest]

Contact G force they will send you a replacement. It's different and will not come off. I like it

[@billgrivette8047]

@@lmErnest did they just send a new shroud?

[@lmErnest]

No its a choke with spikes end

[@MrWatcher46]

When all else fails read the manufacturers recommended procedure. Obviously you didn't.

[@rickyfitness252]

Bro...no just no. This gun rocks by the way if you treat it right

[@user-ev4pb9xj7e]

Yes, let’s hold the muzzle up to our face as we screw around with the barrel😂 this guy knows nothing about gun safety at all😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-ev4pb9xj7e]

The problem with the shotgun is what’s behind it😂😂😂

[@user-ev4pb9xj7e]

The gun is having some issues, let’s go ahead and shoot these last 5 rounds😂😂😂😂 guess he thinks that’s the only way to unload it😂😂😂😂😂

[@juancarlosvanegas6191]

Hello Friend how you Fix the muzzle break, I have the same problem in the same model of shotgun, can you please tellme?

[@lmErnest]

I called GFORCE and it took a long time. They send me a different choke. But the shroud is no longer used. Probably better that way less parts to break. Also with the new choke I can shoot slugs couldn't before. The problem it has now is light primer strikes. Turns out the handguard get nut gets losses. Also once you take off the handguard there's a nut it also gets loose. I'm gonna put lock tight on the treads.

[@lmErnest]

Check out this video I talk about it at the end of the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqvGf4mabZpnpqs

[@juancarlosvanegas6191]

Thank you , Friend I just watch the video, I e-mail them and waiting for the answer about the replacement, fortunately, yes it was cheap but, I want shoot more than 20 rounds in the range. Have a great day, and thank you again.!

[@lmErnest]

Thanks

[@JamesWilliams-px7zg]

@@lmErnest ; "BRO." I JUST STARTED TO WATCH YOUR CONTENT. AND THE 1ST. VIDEO I WATCHED OF YOURS WAS ABOUT THE "GFORCE AR-12". I HAVE THE SAME GUN. SO; LET ME HELP YOU OUT WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU BEEN HAVING WITH 2 ISSUES : #1. LIGHT PRIMER STRIKES #2. FAILURE TO FEED THERE IS ONLY ONE ISSUE AND TRUST ME ON THIS. THEY SAY THAT IT IS BETTER TO SHOW THEN TELL THE NEXT PERSON. (SO, 1ST. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE EASY FIX. THEN 2ND. I WILL PROVIDE YOU TWO LINKS TO WATCH TO SHOW YOU THE INFORMATION I JUST PROVIDED THAT IS NEEDED TO FIX THE TWO ISSUES YOU HAVE FACED IN THIS VIDEO WITH HAVING YOUR "GFORCE AR-12" RUN FLAWLESS.) #1.) THE PROBLEM : YOU ARE RUNNING THE WRONG TYPE OF "AMMO". IT DOESN'T MATTER ON THE "1,200 FPS" AMMO YOU USE.THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOUR USING "LOW BRASS" AMMO. #2.) THE FIX : USE ONLY "HIGH BRASS AMMO".... (THEN YOUR "GFORCE AR-12" WILL DEFINITELY RUN "FLAWLESS" WITHOUT ANY ISSUES YOU WERE HAVING.) WATCH THESE 2 LINKS IN ORDER THE THAT I HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU : kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmbZhat5aN94as0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y523oWR7icesZ9E ****{WATCH YOUR WHOLE VIDEO ALL OVER AGAIN, AND YOU WILL SEE THE "LOW BRASS SHELLS" THAT YOU WERE HAVNG PROBLEMS WITH. THEN; WHEN YOU PUT THE LAST SET OF "HIGH BRASS SHELLS" THEY WORKED FLAWLESSLY.... IT REALLY DON'T MATTER ON THE TYPE OF LOAD YOU USE. IT'S ABOUT THE "TYPE OF BRASS". YOU SHOULD MAKE A VIDEO ON THIS ISSUE FOR YOUR VIEWERS TO UNDERSTAND, SINCE COMPANY IS NOT EXPLAINING THIS ISSUE IN THERE INSTRUCTIONS BOOKLET. (BUT; WHO REALLY READS A BOOKLET. RIGHT !?)}****

[@DerrickLeeM]

Is that a Dagger Defense sight?

[@lmErnest]

No, some cheap sight from Amazon

[@andrettski8686]

Uh, 3 shots, Like a lot of people have said, you set yourself up for failure. Break it in like the mfg tells you.

[@orlandokings4844]

Did they solve the shroud problem for you??

[@lmErnest]

Kind of, they sent a choke. The choke extends beyond the barrel with spikes. So, no more shroud

[@TheNoobComment]

Seemed like you had a bad time at the range today. That sucked.

[@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.]

Is it still garbage ? Researching... Thanks

[@lmErnest]

It is important that the shell be 1300fps. The other problem is the hardware comes loose. I haven't been using it lately. I lock tight the handguard nut but haven't gone back to shoot it again. I probably need to do another video. If you just want a toy then go ahead. I certainly wouldn't count on it for defense at this point. The pump shotgun is much better for that. I'll continue to play with it see if I can dail it in.

[@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.]

I appreciate your time spent in responding, I just seen one for $259... sooooo IDK 😆 Thanks again n'God bless

[@robmiller4630]

Misuse of the abbv, "AR."

[@robmiller4630]

One of the odd reviews on KZbin

[@Antonio-kx5rd]

Let us know if you ever got it to function properly

[@lmErnest]

Yes I did with 1300fps loads seem to work.

[@itsintheword230]

Man....after seeing this.....i dont want one

[@gatewaymofreight]

looks like two issues, could not finish watching.

[@jonherbert1908]

You are the problem, so many Rookie mistakes.

[@Twater-zu5ym]

Trash

[@charleslamp6288]

Nice