GG vs C9 | Week 1 Day 1 S12 LCS Spring 2022 | Golden Guardians vs Cloud 9 W1D1 Full Game

[@aldoestebanrailefvillanuev5852]

My mans LS going from homeless to drafting Ivern mid in LCS. Absolute madlad.

[@mangobeepoppin2712]

There is some Twitch streamer who mains Ivern mid. Super chill guy and enjoyable stream.

[@Holygiant]

Back to homeless lul

[@kylearrvytorres6793]

Can't wait to see ivern mid in my gold ranked games

[@fatbean2000]

lol Ivern great champ not so much mid if you don't know how to play him.

[@mistahjion]

Honestly if the mid player isnt greedy, it could work since top and adcs usually have big egos lol. The only big question mark is how good is your jungle

[@Godtierlee]

@@fatbean2000 I remember getting carried by an Ivern mid in S10. Any enchanter can go mid if you know how to play em imo.

[@d1dieuitall717]

I played this way before I guess they’ve been watching my highlights

[@ozymandias8523]

“Demoted to silver”

[@joshuabryant9845]

I know he died a few times, but can we take a second to notice how cracked Summit was anyway.

[@augustinboulloche684]

Mechanical monster

[@everrest8830]

THIS, no one bothered to mention Summits positioning/mechanics in any of the fights. There was multiple times he should have died but outplayed. Can't wait to see more

[@MineteInc]

For sure, he was sidestepping and dodging abilities left and right when he had whole team chasing him while c9 got a crucial drake. And he lived that!! Then late game he was 2v1ing too

[@bravepotatoe7513]

The way he juked that last jhin r was insane

[@mistahjion]

I think he only died because he started feeling himself too much at those moments lol

[@jlars7954]

summit is mechanically insane, new bot lane looks promising, blaber playing carries, fudge's adaptability, and a new coach that actually understands and prioritizes the importance of draft. as a long time c9 fan I'm very excited for this team

[@koritsudfm]

@@jimmybaker4821 Was anything he stated untrue?

[@helios9025]

@@jimmybaker4821 Lol people were saying GGS new roster is play off contender and some people predicted them to win this. You can tell from a bot game that the mechanics on these korean players is next level.

[@finalfrontier001]

@@helios9025 Let's see Summit beats Ssumday then you can talk.

[@Englerko]

if u cant stomp GG, dont expect anything from EAst teams or even LEc, u will get shit on like every year

[@Joseph1_00]

@@finalfrontier001 ngl he probably will, i like sumday but Summit went head and head vs lck toplaners.

[@m4ng4n]

To be fair, there was also a huge gap talent-wise. That being said, loving LS draft already.

[@wearbroom]

Tbf tbf c9 kept getting caught out and it still was a really commanding win

[@jimai808]

Tbf tbf tbf the Korean players (and LS) only got 3 days of practice with the rest of the roster.

[@schaakakon9473]

tbf tbf tbf tbf I think the only reason C9 didnt win ealier/better was because their draft held them back. They could have walked all over GG with a non-hipster draft

[@Nobody-pv9jt]

tbf tbf tbf tbf tbf they could have been testing this draft BECAUSE its GG

[@Gladdds]

no the draft gap was surreal, we're finally seeing teams punish other picks instead of just handshaking it

[@vaclavskopal5143]

LS the draft mage deathknight paladin hunter rogue warrior enchanter tank bruiser wizzard warlock priest assassin gunslinger druid shaman necromancer ninja

[@vonwaq]

BASED

[@griffins5655]

Showing what he is capable of”

[@seffer9772]

cringe

[@itsthekid9815]

@@seffer9772 you are in the KZbin comments on a lcs week one gg game calling people cringe. That would be in fact a little cringe.

[@seffer9772]

@@itsthekid9815? Ironic.

[@megamani547]

Summit was the hidden carry in this. That man absorbed so much pressure and basically distracted GG the entire time so that the rest of C9 could get the soul. Even so he rarely died and sometimes just killed the enemy instead. Summit was amazing, and this draft was so cracked. C9 BABY LETS GO

[@jamarioushankerson525]

Even if he didn't they'd d have won the team fight anyway it was gg before the game started

[@orenfackrell6964]

How were the casters not going crazy at summit's movement on the dragon soul? 27:30

[@josiahkim8670]

fr.. that was all i was watching

[@cronotriggered4314]

well they can only talk about one thing at a time and the dragon was arguably way more important even if summit had died, but I agree they could have made a bigger deal about it since he literally pulled 3 players away from the dragon on his own

[@captainkrajick]

That's the fault of the observers and production for not focusing on the Summit chase and putting the soul on a small window, not the casters in my opinion

[@RoyTheSoccerFR3AK]

Because its the LCS, they dont have eyes

[@Oligorah]

Summit is an absolute MONSTER! So glad to see such an adaptable team with such a knowledgeable and adaptable coach. Best wishes...I'll be tuning in to every C9 game this split!

[@faveology]

He got the counter pick lane matchup. GG's are a terrible macro team. Licorice is only good when he gets camped

[@n3r0dmc4]

I bet GG were like: " We'll show LS, aka Long Schlong, the power of Renekton".

[@mwaithephoto]

Mass is back tomorrow meet here as soon as possible

[@zeekieal]

I genuinely laughed my ass off at how surprisingly well this draft worked. What the hell are you smoking LS?? Ivern mid into Viktor? Honestly this game was a banger, I'll be watching for what other crazy shit C9 comes up with.

[@faveology]

I can't believe GG first picked Yuumi. It was so scripted they were going to pick Jhin or Ezreal. Jhin is meta, so it was even more obvious it was going to be Jhin lol

[@faveology]

Then they went Qiyana and Renekton, despite C9 having two enchanters. Just bad draft by GG. C9 came in with a clear draft in mind; whereas GG seemed to just pick what they think is strong, even if there isn't much synergy.

[@zeekieal]

@@faveology loll yeah yuumi and jihn is super popular in the LCK rn, with Gwen. Really really easy to see what they were going for. Honestly GG should have first picked Gwen then went yuumi jihn. This woulda given C9 waaaay less opportunity to do whatever the hell they did lmao.

[@taxevasionexpert8217]

@@zeekieal But then if GG picked Gwen B1 you run the risk of C9 picking Graves which is a natural counter to her and can pop the fuck off if GG run a comp that need to run into C9's comp.

[@zeekieal]

@@taxevasionexpert8217 True, but honestly I see graves more as a skill matchup. Usually they can get an advantage early, but if they don't turn that advantage into a Gwen coffin then they are going to get outscaled... not to mention Gwen has excellent outplay potential. I guess the key difference maker would be the yuumi. Once midgame comes around, Gwen yuumi becomes the real nutty combo. It also feels kind of weird for the other team to takeaway yuumi after a first pick Gwen. Maybe that will be the standard though.

[@rosettacucolo4602]

As main Ivern i am very satisfied with this result.

[@GoldenBoyXCM]

you shouldnt be

[@sethsorrentino4369]

you should be^

[@GoldenBoyXCM]

@@sethsorrentino4369 why would you want your main to do well in proplay, other people will play it and it will be banned more. You want your main to lose, period.

[@oreoyo5639]

@@GoldenBoyXCM Some people just feel proud to see their main on proplay or root for it. Not everyone care about ranked so having it nerf a bit is whatever.

[@longlifetometal1995]

@@GoldenBoyXCM when it comes to greatly unpopular champions like Ivern, their mains' excitement is very understandable tbh

[@cccop0]

LS already galaxy-braining the entire LCS. Doubters get punished.

[@Apo110-11]

"Doubters" They are called heretics.

[@7AM_Tzar]

@@Apo110-11 Sinners shall be purified, waves shall be frozen, Malzahar shall be loved, praise Woman, amen.

[@roguegn]

@@7AM_Tzar Amen Brother!

[@seffer9772]

You mean Summit carried the dogshit draft?

[@roguegn]

@@seffer9772 Yeah bro, and Fudge invented calculus

[@Raiko01]

I like to rewatch this video when im sad. Funny to see how clueless casters are, for example when they say viktor wants 6 items here as if he's ever poking or oneshotting anyone through sona+ivern

[@wesley2508]

I love how the casters are saying that one fight changed everything because they're missing the point. Even if C9 loses that fight (which is a big IF considering Gwen is the one who 1v3d and not auphelios), they just farm up to their cheap support items, group next dragon, and win that fight.

[@cronotriggered4314]

hey man be nice to them they do have to try and make it exciting somehow and act like the draft isn't as hopelessly onesided as it is

[@scrub2657]

@@cronotriggered4314 yep, casters are there for entertainment

[@tomwanders6022]

@@scrub2657 that’s the problem for me though, it’s really hard to listen to, if you know a few basics about the game.

[@LuckyGnom]

It's you who missed the point, not them.

[@Arkanna96]

If they said changed, they were indeed wrong cz the game was pretty C9 favored already since they didn't fall behind too much in lane, but it's true that it was the moment they lost the game. We knew the C9 comp would win if they get to their items and are on even footing, so GG needed to win there and start stacking dragons.

[@petermarry7073]

Love how LS's first lcs game is against his nemesis renekton.

[@longlifetometal1995]

C9 did draft Gnar however

[@keiton9512]

With fudge being able to play the ivern, it's almost like bjerg on zilean.

[@georgesheldon9013]

Its pretty much the same shit. Bjerg is an overglorified support now a days.

[@ge1ber919]

Qiyana gets 2 kills and herald. Nothing happens Qiyana gets killed ONE time and they lost the game. thats the drafts difference btw, renekton got outscaled at 1 item XD!!!!! GET PURIFIED NERDS

[@rrhalelol4668]

XDDDDD omg draft difference against GG hahaha LMAO

[@HercadosP]

HAHAHAHA LMAO XDDD, very POGGERSSSSS. get rekt nubs and just take the L cuz 360 720 no scope yes mtn dew BABY the L ratio is REALL!!!! Get ratio'd !!!!! XDXDXDXDXDXDXD

[@itsthekid9815]

@@rrhalelol4668 I mean drafting correctly should happen every game. You always need to draft correctly no matter the competition. If tl doesn't pick twitch rakan vs a pcs team at world we'd have had a tie breaker. That team was gg level.

[@faveology]

That's just the nature of Qiyana jungle. When you are ahead, you have to abuse your lead. If you fuck up, like this one did, you're just useless all game lol

[@x7ogforever]

i love that when the ivern pick comes out, both the GG and C9 team are smiling/laughing. it's like they know this will be an interesting game

[@xtremo1killlercombat]

The church is in session, please get ready to hear the gospel of our holiness LS.🙏📿

[@loganpalmer5111]

Summits movement at 27:30 was coom worthy

[@Tooni8282]

Can confirm

[@gadgas6905]

LOL a year ago i thought i had a free ass lane vs ivern mid but he came with double buff and solo killed my ass

[@asersingularity4229]

People will focus on the champs picked but what is even more important is the order in which they were picked, and also the possible flexes in draft. I’m sure this will be overlooked by other teams too

[@zane3473]

fr, the gwen/ivern flex pick was HUGE, baited out the Renekton lock-in thinking gwen top just for summit to pick gnar to neutralize it for the most part, while having the Ivern mid into the Viktor also neutralizing the lane bc neither could kill eachother resulting in two stalemates which highly benefited c9s double enchanter double hypercarry comp

[@Arkanna96]

@@zane3473 Mostly agreed, but from what i saw in the lock in tournament Gwen kinda dumpsters Renekton in lane too. Idk if it's how the matchup works or the Renektons were just very bad each time. Still I liked this draft, they had so many options to flex right until the end

[@zane3473]

@@Arkanna96 you're probably right, I don't remember how the match-up is after both of the champs rotation of buffs and nerfs. They probs just planned on camping topside and using renekton as a gank setup with his stun so qiyana can come in a do her thing.

[@EXEMPT8894]

as an all time C9 fan, this might be the tourney they take it all

[@mcELINER]

This might be NA's first worlds win

[@eetuantola2519]

Church9 outscaled at 14 minutes.

[@xitachiuchiha8603]

i love captain flowers commentary

[@12ARedSon]

Three scrimmage days and C9 actually picks up the win. Excited to hear the church organ during playoffs.

[@daveys_gaming_corner]

28:30 summit has some fancy feet 😳

[@ulquiorra4386]

GG saw Ivern and they started smiling and laughing but ..... hahah LS purified the sinners

[@lewiscarter5575]

So hype seeing LS on stage.

[@Nothing-ll2sl]

30:23 Olleh had Exhaust up the whole time LMAO

[@Sol_Official]

You're right but it wouldn't have mattered much

[@PabloLopez-tz2zq]

So Summit can play league of legends.

[@joaobrito2653]

C9 didn’t even play the game that well as a team and the draft gap still allowed them to win very comfortably

[@skiller0386]

Ls based

[@finalfrontier001]

@@skiller0386 lets see vs top teams

[@vitorcristiano9744]

What gap?

[@faveology]

Draft was great, but you are wrong about how C9 played. C9 played macro very well. When GG would go for Summit, C9 was pressuring other parts of the map hard. C9 outmacro'd GG all game. Sure C9's lane phase wasn't great, but that's because their comp wasn't designed to do well during laning phase. Gwen scales, Gnar scales, and Aphelios scales. Add this with two enchanters (Sona who isn't a great laner anymore really) and Ivern (who isn't a great laner either). GG had an early game comp that defaults on picks late game to get anything done. The lack of reliable CC (only Renekton's was reliable) and no real front line just allowed C9 to weave in and out all they wanted, essentially exhausting GG's resources.

[@seppuku404]

Summit was a beast on that gnar. That 1v2 on that final ay was just *chef's kiss*

[@ong_matyo]

The Dark Lord has descended to enlighten the monke that is NORTH AMERICAN LCS.

[@MiraPacku]

C9: picks Ivern me: Church9 is in Session. Hell Yea

[@felixbermudez3782]

Watching Summit survive during 4th dragon was inspiring

[@whysmile9412]

i still remember when LS named the elite 4 of LCK Toplaners Kiin, Summit, Khan and Nuguri together with Chovy being the Trainer Red when he roll swapped to top

[@cameronpennell1551]

I have no clue who summit is but holy cow. The guys mech are off the charts

[@gurrtej5652]

Bruh… SUMMIT is like taking a level 99 Pokémon and making him fight a god damn level 3 Metapod that only knows harden…. That metapod is already half health and Summit used Shadow Tag so they can’t even runaway. It’s crazy… idk what everyone expected 😂😂

[@benjaminparker5044]

Omg, Licorice has a gorgeous mane. Miss that guy on C9

[@metamage1685]

LS Diff. No Zven Diff. Blaber OP Diff. Really liking this version of C9. :D

[@basedyog1337]

Based on his positioning, lost is such a fitting name

[@tynivinnie]

27:27 wow

[@nathanpeavy4788]

That's what I'm sayin! Can't believe he got away from that

[@mrfoodfrostfiend4100]

As much as I want to give credit to the draft from LS in grouped team fights, it was against GG (not sure if LS drafted with disrespect to them) and it was a little strange that ivern wasn’t getting zoned harder (pre 6) by viktor but decided to hand shake and farm the lane passively. I can’t wait for tomorrow’s game against EG because that one should really test them more.

[@FereniaO]

I feel like you overrated viktor pre laser upgrade, especially when he can't trade with q auto bcs he has no vision on ivern staying in the bush

[@Arkanna96]

I don't think Viktor has the dmg and mana pool early game to do that. I'm sure they were expecting to be several thousand gold behind in the early anyway. A better team could have snowballed harder but I think the game would have still evened out eventually and been C9 favored later.

[@faveology]

I am sure the Ivern pick was more about LS wanting to try a certain champ/comp out. He knew they were against a bad team, so he probably figured they would try it to see if it is worth pulling out or not against better teams. I bet C9 tries out weird comps whenever they face IMT or GG. This will also make other teams have to respect those potential picks in the future (even if C9 has no plans of picking that style of comp against good competition)

[@uhmmmFU]

@@faveology you comment way too much and your opinions are dumb

[@j.doele1620]

Love captain flowers and made 15k on cloud 9 today

[@Frosty-Res]

When they come out to bow, Fudge looks like he's the size of Berserker and Blaber combined

[@Szene-vu5cs]

The fact that in that river fight around 19:10 renekton wasn’t able to kill the adc because of all the heals and shields just proves that comp to be absolutely genius 😂😂😂 I had to laugh so hard watching the renekton struggle to kill the 5hp Carey who gets healed and shielded up every 2 seconds

[@Arkanna96]

Same, I had to pause the game because i was laughing too hard and couldn't focus on what was happening anymore xD that and every time summit dodged 100 skillshtos and almost won 1v2 / 1v3

[@Sarubotai]

but can we talk about that first blood flash by summit 😂😂

[@jordidewaard2937]

Hoped to get mega I guess

[@ThanatosIRL]

Welcome to the church, lanes will be frozen, sinners will be purified, mass is on weekends

[@seffer9772]

Summit will carry*

[@wolvesblaze582]

Blaber gwenn/Olaf 1v3 this man is already LCS MVP

[@ArcaneAzmadi]

Aww no, now Riot are gonna nerf the fuck out of all the enchanters again! Trust me, I've danced this dance before. Thanks a lot, C9!

[@faveology]

Fudge has to play enchanters and control mages if C9 want to be successful. He's just not a top tier mid tbh. Sadly this won't work on the international stage because C9 doesn't have any truly dominant player like FPX did when they won it all. Also, topple this with the fact NA mids are - for the most part - very passive laners, and you can see why Fudge will have success in NA. When he faces EU, Korea, etc., he will int all game or just be completely useless. They abuse passive mid laners so hard in those regions

[@Gladdds]

Because enchanters mid are ez to play have cheap items. There's a reason ls is drafting enchanters.

[@ArcaneAzmadi]

@@Gladdds Well no shit there's a reason. And Riot HATE when that happens. Every time any enchanter gets played anywhere except support (or jungle if it's Ivern), out comes the nerfhammer again. They just won't allow it.

[@Gladdds]

@@ArcaneAzmadi well ivern mid and speaks should be playable mid buy their items and kit are just way to useful just like smitw janna top

[@ArcaneAzmadi]

@@Gladdds Yeah, Janna is absolutely _cruising_ for another nerf. You know she's THE most-nerfed champion in the entire history of the game? Literally every single aspect of her kit has been nerfed multiple times over. And any time anyone tries to play her anywhere except support, Riot give her yet another bruise, like an abusive husband whose dinner is five minutes late again.

[@thomassisneros8943]

i like how everyone has masks but the players 😂

[@janiisdying]

Would rengar be good here. Just curious

[@faveology]

Can't believe GG went Renekton and Qiyana. Yuumi was a ballsy first pick imo. Should have just first picked Gwen since Cait + Thresh were banned. You can go Yuumi for your second pick. Gwen is a great first pick since it can be top or jungle. Yuumi synergy with a champ like Gwen is great as well. EDIT: You can also see how oblivious GG were to the Gwen flex because they then proceeded to ban two junglers.

[@jaypham3393]

only the faithful shall be rewarded 🙏

[@longlifetometal1995]

Ivern is an absurdly underrated champ and has been since his release, his reliability is never acknoledged and, despite his unique identity, he's probably the lowest risk, highest reward champ in the game once you know how to really play the game.

[@jamespage7924]

Lost seems a bit lost in the dragon fight. He decided to melee Gwen who had 20 hp and not use his range

[@mwbwyatt]

he lost vision of gwen in the bush, smart by blaber tbh. lost shoulda just retreated and cut their losses at that point

[@loopdahoop4910]

@@mwbwyatt or allow neeko to get in the bush to get vision and auto Gwen. Neeko might die but carry lives with shutdown. Tbh it probs was just heat of the moment decisions that really fucked gg up

[@jcbsamm258]

@@loopdahoop4910 neeko?

[@minemino2]

@@loopdahoop4910 Neeko? modCheck

[@dhn2654]

@@loopdahoop4910 yeah neeko the cat is op

[@samyfarhi6584]

Summit is scary

[@rustygear447]

19:09 lol that Jhin just inted so hard. He must be panicking so hard and misclick to run to the bush instead of attacking XD

[@navirockmusic]

NA adc's are another breed. That's why they brought a korean one I guess.

[@krumpits]

@@navirockmusic lost is from the australian league

[@ninenine6204]

I hope C9 pick Seraphine tomorrow match

[@reyesmarkjaycee5891]

Love that name "GG Lost"

[@Loukious]

Jesus, Fudge looks like a giant compared to the rest of the team.

[@HorrorGeek9]

Ivern and Sona 💙

[@veganrunner4172]

When did LS started as a coach for C9?

[@jimmyewald]

Ok I'm officially part of the church of LS

[@paulandersbullecer3152]

Summary: Welcome to the world of enchanters

[@donwanna3906]

I want an Ivern-Rengar solo queue cheese duo named "Her Bush" and "His Pussy." Or other way around. This is the first LS game I've seen. Pretty good start, but let's see how well he does in the long run. Pridestalker played so well. I feel a little bad for him.

[@bencurtis777]

I was excited for this c9 roster but I think you guys are being a little unfair to GG they played pretty well up until a certain point and I honestly think GG is a top 5 team. I think c9 comp was just very unpredictable so it kinda got out of hand.

[@Arkanna96]

Well, their team comp was stronger early game, so yeah obviously it'll look like they played well, but in fact they weren't far enough ahead considering the team comps, they didn't get any dragons when they had a winning bot side and that is in no way a good thing when the enemy team comp outscales you hard. Snowballing early game and stacking dragons for a soul was their win condition and they failed it.

[@faveology]

GG isn't good. They picked an early game comp and barely did anything with it. They made a lot of macro mistakes outside of lane as well. GG is bottom half of the league. They barely beat TSM academy lol. TL, TSM, 100T, EG, and FQ are all better by a long shot. CLG and DIG are arguably better than GG as well. Only team GG is better than is IMT.

[@kyleallen22]

Ok draft blah blah blah prayge finally BUT can we all take a hot moment to admire Licorices fucking mane please good LORD

[@Mokinono45]

his bush......his bush......bruh nooooo

[@rydikulus1]

Church9 looking goooooooood

[@daveys_gaming_corner]

HOLY FUCKING SHIELDS 🛡

[@mcELINER]

GG looks turbo tilted after game 😄

[@Eidxjxndnd]

imagine if doublelift was casting this

[@gretchenallen2689]

Go to church

[@chanmalichan4946]

Summit and berserker are the Korean imports right? Then the support was from academy?

[@talan651]

Winsome is actually also korean, but has NA residence, i think he was borned there, so he doesnt count as an import

[@andrescifuentes7089]

27:25 idc what anyone says, Summit was dancing with GG while buying time for soul. Summit is smurfing, don't give this man a chance to play gnar.

[@GamingHintsify]

Welcome to Church. Mass is on Weekends bois

[@Trajanoduelino]

I wanna see in worlds EG, C9, TL

[@TheBritishPoro]

seems likely

[@roguegn]

That's very likely to be honest.

[@BG1435q]

I still think 100T will make it to worlds, probably instead of EG or C9, im from EU and this is the best NA season they had probably ever, cant wait to see more of c9 aswell, really hope they keep doing well and make worlds, imagine C9 vs SKT at worlds and c9 wins with LS as a coach haha

[@blufirwzs3307]

@@BG1435q some t1 fans (the vocal minority) will be in shambles

[@seffer9772]

TSM, EG, TL

[@therivercake871]

Everyone laughs at Ivern in champ select, then cries in game 😹

[@D-Z321]

Captain flowers is just the best.

[@johnaldrinecantrell5082]

Summit is nuts!

[@Xavib107]

The draft diff is not okay lol

[@yusufsafadi5066]

The utter state of this game right now.

[@jorgereyes-sl8pd]

Recien me di cuenta que esta summit en la topline y fudge se fue a la midlane jaja

[@chump5876]

😂 Didn't realize ls was draft coach 😂

[@woozywitanuzi6187]

Is LS the coach of c9

[@imaphro6749]

obv im not good at the game jus started again but does any1 know why they switch lanes? why do both their tops go bot? i get if its top vs bot mayb but its both. Then gwen goes top while Viktor goes top lol Im just not rly gettin it

[@OBODZ1]

Theres more to it but simple answer is in general, the guy with TP available should go to the opposite side of where the possible fight for an upcoming objective. The other with TP should be mid or in the lane closest to the objective so they can react faster.

[@jamarioushankerson525]

OMG they got out scaled sooooooo hard

[@Zoarkkk]

Finally some interesting drafts

[@hamzabelattar]

watching LS on stage is so weird

[@포포몬스-x8y]

낭만 탑갭좌 써밋 화이팅

[@severprince8473]

"Splat that cat!"

[@lyner7715]

Unique draft.

[@nathna2335]

LS aka LOTTA SHIELDS

[@Yimji]

Nice sett cosplay

[@tehawsumninja]

LS,,,you madman.

[@horyzon3143]

GG coach should study on how to wear a mask