GHOST JETS in Ace Combat?!

[@BlackCatRedScarf]

It's amusing how much stuff was carefully made for AC3. Obviously that it was the last Ace Combat game for PS1, but it is still amazes how much they did with such a limited hardware.

[@tsunfish9443]

I love how the PS2 games had beautiful jet models that still hold up And then the blurriest sea/land textures lmfaoooo Disclaimer I was only able to emulate them but still

[@justit1074]

"...you are able to fully admire the fine cuisine of the crusted jpeg..." -funny man

[@YC-07_Cronus]

the ghost jet exists due to reflection of physical objects and light being pretty hard to pull off in a PS1 (just ask Polys Entertainment how they made the windows and bodies of the cars reflected the surroundings in Gran Turismo using a simplified version of ray tracing), this segues perfectly into the fact that in the AC3 JP UPEO arc's sixth mission, Ghosts of the Past or the AC3 International version Maze, you can fly over and around the ravine during the message that plays from the UPEO Commander (JP only) when you get to the enemy base, this can get you out of bounds and lead you to a ghostly inverted version of the ravine from which you can enter through the walls, unfortunately you can only exit by flying below (which is technically the top of) the ravine which is just right above the water (something the average Ace deals with daily) thank you for coming to and listening to my little speech

[@Mx64MaxyImpress]

The game that literally came 25 years ago is definitely pushing the PS1 to it's limit of futuristic realism

[@samuelbee3250]

I never realized there weren’t reflections in AC5 until today. Very odd, indeed.

[@Rasgriz-01]

There are in a few levels such as chain reaction and in mission 27 and 27+, in the city parts you can see buildings and lights reflect of the water. Ace combat zero also had fire reflections in the mission inferno, and ace combat 4 had it in mission 15 emancipation. Oh and every ace combat after 2 had sun reflections.

[@Koneneko08]

You can see that AC3 was excellent even though it was incomplete.

[@TheRibbonRed]

What's your metric for judging AC3's completion?

[@PlinaZ]

@@TheRibbonRed I think they're saying it's incomplete because of how, outside of japan, they shipped without the story.

[@TheRibbonRed]

@@PlinaZ ah, well if so, they should've stated that.

[@guts-141]

@@TheRibbonRed I thought it was obviously the main issue with AC3 international version Everyone knows that

[@TheRibbonRed]

@@guts-141 Not to the people who only played the JP version. I'd refrain from calling it "International Version" if I were you. As the butchered version was only marketed to US & EU only, while the "International Version" is now the name the fan patch for AC3 JP uses.

[@vantuz8264]

That's not a reflection. That's another instance of Nemo.

[@TheLastRose1996]

2:17 is this the meaning of "go dance with the angels"?

[@mathmocha1331]

PSM for life!

[@tuzkinity4476]

Now try Ace Combat 3 again with invincibility, you can enjoy the reflection coming out of the water. :3 (I did attempt this myself not long ago coincidentally)

[@ianal0028]

I think we all can agree that Project Wingman is a better game. Just look at how much love and care they put into their game.

[@mill2712]

And made by 3 whole people (Mostly RBD2) as well.

[@ianal0028]

@@mill2712 AC7 is a huge disappointment.

[@Strider2Count8492]

​​@@ianal0028 story yes it's a huge disapointment

[@tuttuti123]

​@@Strider2Count8492 nah for me it's the control. Yaw is just full left, center and full right. That shit is annoying

[@ColeZmijski]

​@@tuttuti123Do you have novice controls on?

[@DerekFischer]

In AC3, you didn't die hitting the ground, is by clliding with your reflection HAHAHAHHAA

[@asidewinder5871]

Ace Combat 3 is simply superior in EVERY SINGLE ASPECT LMFAO i love that game XD

[@APerson-ni1gb]

It didn’t have multiplayer though

[@asidewinder5871]

@@APerson-ni1gb true, but at least the multiplayer isn't shit (AC7 *pukes*) And the greatest games don't always have all the features of modern games smh Imagine having so much features you overprice your game and the features aren't even well made or complete

[@Cloaker86]

@@asidewinder5871 Assault Horizon's multiplayer exists, and it had like 20x the content of AC7

[@asidewinder5871]

@@Cloaker86 am i supposed to take this as "Assault Horizon is goated" or as "they somehow fucked it up even harder than their worst game to date"? also, ACX had 20x the content of AC7 for the multiplayer as well, and ACJA had even more, but one didn't have upgrades on all planes and the other had a very shitty upgrade restrictions, gameplay was as classic as it could be, more classic than AC7's in fact and didn't require any DLC to unlock 100% of their content i mean really what other Ace Combat lets you put 2 emblems on your plane but Joint Assault?

[@cybercat7851]

AC3 just turned water into glass. It doesn’t look nearly as good.

[@mathmocha1331]

With only 2MB RAM and 1MB VRAM to play around at the time of its development, this seemed pretty enough! :)

[@cybercat7851]

@@mathmocha1331 true

[@thebluespider9003]

even ac3 has reflection? :0

[@dezedpedro]

yeah the mirror method to simulate the reflection

[@TheRibbonRed]

It's among the first missions in the game. There were only a few missions using it I think, two of them on the same ravine map.

[@Cloaker86]

well more like theres just a clone of yours under the earth doing your every move

[@corpsimmons575]

2:32 Oops you showed how AC3 isn’t actually doing any reflections! Yeah so it seems like instead of doing VRAM/GPU intensive actions (like reflections off water) they used the PS1s CPU and just had a second 3D model of the plane ACTING like a reflection. But it’s not. It’s too clear, it’s 3D, etc. AC3 is great at atmosphere, and it’s story is quite good, but people forget about a lot of the creature comforts that games like AC7 add. Clearer UI, better graphics (ofc, though in this case it REALLY matters for seeing where your enemy is facing.), wider selection of aircraft which allows a more open ended approach to missions, physics tweaks that (while not as realistic) allow for those “cool flying moments” (i.e close shaves, not hitting downed planes, more responsiveness) to happen more often.

[@mathmocha1331]

That's why it was thought to be a "ghost" jet :)

[@captainduct5082]

2:46 Waaait a minute.. that seems... familiar..... (　｀ー´)??

[@mathmocha1331]

Dogfight with the 'ghost'? :3

[@captainduct5082]

@Math Mocha Tom Cruise should make a scene over here. Hmmm. Perhaps do a dogfight with goose's son right? And probably do it over a desert during training

[@Caroline_9877]

ok

[@Panchoproductions2069]

Banger