Ghost of Tsushima - HDR Tech Review - HDR Is A Little Bit Broken - HDR Sliders Not Working On PC

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

Video is recorded in HDR but KZbin can take up to 48 hours to process HDR. Until HDR is finalized the picture will look very washed out and Colors will be wrong. Please come back later to watch this Video in HDR again. Thank You!

[@willloman812]

Thank god, I thought I was going crazy because nobody is discussing this.

[@ledooni]

What we actually need is 0 nits black + 4 sliders: peak brightness, paper white, shadow detail and UI brightness. It can't be that hard, but it seems that there is just not enough HDR experts in the dev teams, so that we always get half-baked solutions and have to find our own workarounds. We've had HDR in gaming since 2016 and I really think it's time we reach such a quality standard for future releases...

[@morrritz]

My go to channel every time I buy a new game with HDR. Essential channel!

[@teddyholiday8038]

On console I remember having to change the in-game contrast options to make it pop. I think I turned on the dramatic contrast and increased brightness to elevate the black crush Nixxes port of HFW also had broken max luminance on launch

[@AdiiS]

Same thing here on my OLED G8, I noticed immediately those crushed blacks. Thanks for your settings, now it looks much better with 70 brightness.

[@camcooolback4115]

Dramatic or default?? Contrast

[@AdiiS]

@@camcooolback4115 Default.

[@martinkorndorfer8803]

FYI: "Paper White" is generally affecting UI elements. That's normal and how it's implemented in most games. One example is Cyberpunk.

[@Keivz]

Not in my experience. Paper white affects the overall/baseline apl usually. I agree with GT

[@yuragi1454]

Paper white affects the mid tones, or like: 100% SDR White. The brighter you go, the lower the dynamic range at the end. 100 - 200 makes the most sense to get a natural picture with more dynamic range. But UI elements are a different thing (if there is a slider for). In general UI elements of course are also affected, if you change paper white...

[@zachc4451]

That is what is often claimed, but not always the case.

[@DoctorHades]

The HDR settings detected 993 nits on my Alienware AW2725DF QD-OLED monitor and on these 'default' settings I thought the game's HDR presentation looked stunning during the opening sequence at night with all the fire and other light sources. The only issue I had, and this was also true of the PS4 Pro/PS5 version, is that the interiors of the houses looks way too dark, as f the effect is exaggerated. At one point, the game actually transitioned from gameplay to a cutscene inside a building and the whole scene became much brighter, while still maintaining decent black levels. Looks like I might have to up the Brightness from 50 to 60 or 70 to compensate but that will also raise the brightness everywhere else which otherwise looks fine at the moment. It's just the house interiors that look too dark.

[@Abyss-mu4vk]

What did you have your paper white set to? I had mine set on true black 400 so it put my peak brightness at 400 something nits stock and 200 paper white

[@sn95t]

@@Abyss-mu4vk I have the same monitor and also set it to true black and for some reason it looks good when i set max luminance to 878 specifically any thing below or above that and the game looks washed out so safe to say the sliders are broken

[@Abyss-mu4vk]

@@sn95t yeah I started getting the same thing. If I went below or above a number it would drown out the highlights. I think I’m somewhere around 680 or so

[@Abyss-mu4vk]

@@sn95t hdr is completely broken on the game it seems

[@KhasrouhRecords]

the paper white slider setting is not broken because it acts the same as the ps4 - ps5 versions = it only affects the Ui and Subtitles. the PC Port has a slight Blue tint and i feel the color is slightly different than the console version so i will have to check and compare.

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

But its not called paper white setting in the PS5 version. Its called UI brightness setting as it should be.

[@KhasrouhRecords]

@@GamingTech-KZbin yeah you are right they have misspelled it on PC , this game by default and by design doesn't have a paper white slider .

[@86ajmn]

For Nvidia users, don't forget about alt F3. Then add the brightness/contrast filter. This gives you ability to finetune these details for free. One of the things you can do is lighten up the shadows to find that perfect sweet spot. Tip for those who spend more time tweaking shit then playing the god dam game lmao. This video was super helpful to me. Thank you! I'm going HGIG, max brightness 900 to match the 880ish I am getting from Windows 11 HDR calibration tool and in game brightness 90 and Dramatic contrast. I'm simply floored by how beautiful these settings are combined with maxed out settings in 4K and DLSS quality. You are right about the brightness though, you HAVE to crank that shit up. I tried 70 and even that was stealing so much from the picture.

[@GelasticSnail]

I don’t know if this is common knowledge but HDR looked terrible in this game until… I put bloom on. I normally turn it off in games and wondered why image didn’t pop like yours. It’s all in the bloom setting!!

[@cygnusx7]

I usually play with HGiG, but with the Paper White slider only working for the UI, I feel that the overall light level is too low on my LG C1. So for this game, currently, I think that Tone Mapping ON looks best.

[@eruannster]

Brightness sounds like it works a lot like it did on PS4/PS5. I usually opted for around 70-80 as 50 is far too dark in the night scenes and for some interiors.

[@JBanchiere]

The paper white setting does absolutely nothing for me in HDR. The UI brightness doesn't change at all, and I wish it would because every time I go into the menu I am greeted with the light of a thousand suns.

[@ToxMod]

This game looks polished AF.

[@TheEdmaster87]

I am too involved in no rest for the wicked. But hopefully will play this masterpiece some day, skipped it on PS5 vecause I heard it was coming to PC!

[@ToxMod]

No Rest of the wicked is still in early access??

[@TheEdmaster87]

Yes but most bugs have been fixed

[@ToxMod]

@@TheEdmaster87 waiting for the PS5 release

[@jameskeziahdelaney6747]

You're the best! Pls never stop, your videos are very helpful, danke!!

[@JohnnyBg2905]

So optimized for this game: Paperwhite 200 Max 1000 Contrast default Brightness 60-70 (avg 65) Thanks

[@Criptooooo]

gonna try ty

[@simonrockstream]

Isnt paper white supposed to be for the Hud only? Since we already have the brightness slider. Now they are separate instead of connected like other games. Seems like a very good thing to me

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

The brightness slider is just for shadow details. The Paper White setting should change the average picture brightness. Either it's not working or they labeled it wrong.

[@danquaza9275]

@@GamingTech-KZbineven on ps5 I remember that slider only changing the hud and menus. I think it’s just mislabeled and then they just carried it over during the porting process to pc

[@paul2609]

@@GamingTech-KZbin In other games such as Cyberpunk and Rachet&Clank, paper white is just the UI brightness. You might be thinking of mid-tone? Cyberpunk has a separate slider for mid-tone and paper white (UI)

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

@@paul2609 Maybe you are right 🤔🤔

[@agentsmith2026]

​@@GamingTech-KZbinlowering it to 120 seems to bring back shadow detail for me, at the cost of some color saturation. I have the screen brightness to 80

[@Nephitis]

I have a 49" Samsung OLED G9 monitor and the easiest thing for me was to increase brightness to 100 and adjusting the contrast setting to "dramatic".

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I've been waiting to play this game. I'll pause my life to beat it😁

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

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[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

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[@GamingTech-YouTube]

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[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

​@@GamingTech-KZbinData analysis. Behind a computer from home.

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

Sounds good!

[@MCK888]

You can review the hdr settings of Elden ring to find out which setting for the lg g2

[@sacb0y]

Paper white should generally be for UI brightness but it's not always used that way. The concept really needs to be standardized. In a way it does make sense for the base level brightness tho. But honestly thats something that should be calibrated by the creator.

[@eruannster]

I wish they would just make better labels. Calling it "UI brightness" or "average HDR brightness" and giving me a sample image would be far more helpful for me as a user to figure out the appropriate setting for my screen.

[@sacb0y]

@@eruannster yeah, in theory the term "paper white" is basically the brightness of a well lit sheet of paper in your room. But most people don't really know how to measure that.

[@eruannster]

​@@sacb0y Yep. Honestly, a lot of these settings have gotten a bit too confusing to understand and have too little in-game description, especially a lot of HDR settings. Okay, a white paper in a well-lit room? How does that work inside this particular game? An example image would be great to get a feel for what it does to the image. Cyberpunk also has some really confusing settings such as "tone mapping midpoint" and "HDR PQ saturation" that give you almost no explanation and just drops a number. Is 2.0 tone mapping midpoint right? 1.2? What do these settings even do?

[@NorthsideChamps16]

I actually like dramatic/brightness set to 40. I want the dark parts to look dark.

[@publicTechInstance]

Really cool video :) Is this tool displaying HDR data in real-time while gaming?

[@rx1834]

yes, it's an HDR/SDR analysis ReShade shader by Lilium. a fantastic tool

[@robblack8754]

Why does Nixxes have such difficulty having hdr sliders work out of the damn box. Same crap with Forbidden West with the max luminance slider not working.

[@mosthated8848]

NIXXES ports take at least 3 or 4 patches before the game is perfect.

[@simonkaroly1]

Yeah they deserve credit for not releasing completely broken ports I guess but certainly not the lavish praise people give them. Their last port also had broken HDR.

[@mrflaquir4]

Does "dramatic" mode increase the hdr colors being presented?

[@Buueyxd]

wowie i liekd dat game it was super fun🙂😃🙂

[@mopnem]

I can’t be the only one perplexed why these windows games can’t get hdr right when it’s one of the most important things

[@Ray-dl5mp]

What? Isn’t paper white supposed to be for hud elements or is that only for certain games? You sure that’s a bug. I thought that’s a cool way to just adjust your hud.

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

Its most likely just labelled wrong. Paper white should change the general brightness on the screen.

[@Ray-dl5mp]

@@GamingTech-KZbinok. Great video!

[@Cblan1224]

I wonder if ersh's hdr luminance slider fix from horizon forbidden west will work for this lol. Otherwise I'll just use reshade or rtx hdr to give a tiny boost to the highlights so i can take full advantage of my g4!

[@wayne0320]

In dark room and dark areas, game is unplayable lol, even with 70 brightness.

[@gregorB92]

put the brightness on 80 and dramatic contrast on to combat the washed out look

[@mrfrenglitch2172]

I put brightness 80 and then use the dramatic contrast. Looks really nice for me that way.

[@teddyholiday8038]

Yeah this is what I did back on PS5 and it looks incredible

[@greyraven9164]

Did they ever patch broken HDR settings for Horizon FW? or left til now untreated?

[@hapce5120]

Do you mean Horizon Forbidden West? If so, then yes they have patched it

[@greyraven9164]

@@hapce5120 yeah my bad, thx good to know then.

[@pasiber]

paperwhite slider is even with the slider in Ratchet and Clank

[@vSoulreaver]

Vielen Dank! Great video as always, very helpful :)

[@nlou1]

Should I set the peak brightness to 800 when playing on the LG CX?

[@ondowmosa6283]

I stopped believing in fixes to games anymore. Even if they seem pretty blatant.

[@Solus793]

Try 100 Brightness + Dramatic Contrast.

[@martindescoteaux9288]

Where do I find dramatic contrast?

[@Solus793]

@@martindescoteaux9288 It's right next to the game brightness slider. HDR in this game is just a bit broken, it will be fixed soon with ReShade mods. The code is busted.

[@Criptooooo]

Well IF i enable HDR the game crash very often , but nits was on 1500 and recommended is 1000, I have alienware aw34dwf monitor, so what do u recommend?

[@ammarnajeeb]

1500 nits is not enough?? RIP my CX 😭😭😭

[@rejectxz]

Im having trouble with my Dualshock 4, if I use it with usb cable then the sound gets muffled and quiet. Per bluethooth the vibration doesnt work. Something isnt right there hope they fix it.

[@nico2p.]

i have a problem using hdr on my monitor, im using a Samsung Viewfinity s6, if i enable hdr and Exclusive fullscreen option the screen start flickerin within the game image and a black screen

[@paul2609]

In other games such as Cyberpunk and Rachet&Clank, paper white is just the UI brightness. You might be thinking of mid-tone? Cyberpunk has separate sliders for peak brightness, mid-tone and paper white (UI).

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Excellent job!!

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

Thanks buddy

[@Valentinfer9]

Hi guys, my HDR doesn't turn on when the game is in full scren, only when it is windowed. Do you also have the issue ? Does someone knows a way to fix it ?

[@rovosunny1687]

The game is definitely too dark I hope there’s an update soon

[@greyraven9164]

Retest after the new patch maybe?

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

Probably next week!

[@uremytoy]

Not a single monitor can get that bright with HDR, most don't even get higher than 800, I'm talking ofc about true HDR with oled displays. 1500 nits is enough

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

My S95C has a max peak brightness of around 1200 -1300nits . The new G4 has a max peak brightness of around 1500nits . Some LCD screens can hit 2000nits or more. 1500nits is not enough nowadays.

[@uremytoy]

@@GamingTech-KZbin this is not monitor first, second just bcoz producer says it can, doesn't mean it's rly can. Also u don't take that this 1300 nits is taken in special environment with special settings u will probably never be able to reproduce. Personally I know maybe 2 or 3 monitors that are able to run above 1000 nots with HDR. Also LCD doesn't have true HDR , for now only oled does

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

LCD doesn't have true HDR? Please explain this! I have LCD screens here and they have proper HDR. When it comes to max peak brightness they are even better than OLED

[@uremytoy]

@@GamingTech-KZbin LCD screen isn't capable of displaying real HDR bcoz it's unable to turn off every pixel like oled monitor does. They are monitors with zone backlighting but still they cannot display as good HDR as oleds plus their downside is something like ghosting especially visible by displaying white text on black screen

[@uremytoy]

@@GamingTech-KZbin there is also one technology that is capable ofd displaying true hdr. its plasma but its no longer produced due to so many doiwnsides of it

[@ygny1116]

Zero ambient lighting indoor, can't see shit.

[@Keivz]

Iirc Miles Morales peaks only at 1000 nits as well, no? Disappointing

[@iCXRUX]

Are the console settings broken too?

[@HDRGamingHub]

All the HDR Sliders are working as intended mate....

[@greyraven9164]

nop.... they slide... but 2 of the are bugged, peak brightness and paper white, the 1st peak at around 1k and 2nd only effect UI not the game.

[@rochester3]

Exclusive full screen mode doesn’t work for me😂

[@teddyholiday8038]

It’s 2024 Use borderless

[@rx1834]

Turning off bloom in the graphics settings might be a good idea

[@viraltube3973]

Anyone use DTM , i find HGIG is way to dark for this game .

[@SilverBld]

I use HGIG but I like the look of DTM On

[@BryceCzirr-jz7ju]

RTX HDR seems broken in this game

[@BornGam3r]

This is where RTX HDR comes in handy :)

[@martindescoteaux9288]

Is it working good?

[@FilmrissGaming]

1000 Nits sind doch okay wer hat den einen PC Monitor oder TV mit mehr als 1000 und die meisten Spiele werden doch normalerweise mit 800 gemacht

[@thegoodsherman]

Gibt genug TVS die mehr wie 1500 nits habe 🤷

[@CS-amegmondo]

RTX HDR is not solution?

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

No, the HDR in GoT is awesome. Why would you use RTX HDR? All what they need to do is fix the Max Peak Slider

[@djbpresents9584]

Had turn my brightness 80 was dark

[@eruannster]

I remember playing this on PS4/PS5 and I needed to set it to around 70-80 as well. Daytime scenes are fine at 50/default, but in night scenes and some interiors it was hard to see what was going on.

[@Geeksquad2099]

Of course is broken this game never made for pc

[@FilmrissGaming]

Zu dunkel ist halt ein Oled Problem schon immer gewesen ja schön schwarz alles details gehen verloren leider

[@Brandywine92]

Yep me too. OLED tech is strange in the way that it can do no wrong when looking at it from a spec sheet and yet feel so underwhelming in real use.

[@zexedearth89]

RTX HDR to the rescue.

[@martindescoteaux9288]

Is it better?

[@zexedearth89]

@@martindescoteaux9288 100%

[@martindescoteaux9288]

@@zexedearth89 Bizard because on my side it's as if the hdr doesn't work.

[@apostolos8734]

@@martindescoteaux9288this implementation is actually done well, you don’t need rtx hdr.

[@a2raya772]

1500 Is enough..