GHOSTBUSTERS II: The Movie That Killed The Franchise? - (1989) Review

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I never understood the hate. It opens with a fairly realistic premise about what would happen following the first movie, the villain is original and not a copy (and much more intimidating imo), the new ghosts and river of slime are great additions, and there are some pretty funny moments. Do...Rey...EGON!

[@jamesabernethy7896]

Trying something different is something that they should get credit for. If they had totally copied the original i think it would have hurt the original.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

​@jamesabernethy7896 I think we know how much more backlash it would have gotten if it had gone back to the Ivo Shandor well, that's why I didn't really like Afterlife. And these movies weren't meant to be that deep either, the original was inspired by old Bob Hope and Abbott and Costello movies, they're supposed to be silly-spooky.

[@clintonwilcox4690]

@@jamesabernethy7896 Right. Criticisms that Ghostbusters II is just the first movie over again are unfounded.

[@richardrobertsDN38416]

Totally agree, the chemistry is still there and an yanosh was a brilliant addition

[@Jackie535]

The slime is a reminiscent of the animated series, The Real Ghostbusters as well as the toy line…..I had the toy of the ghost puking slime from the mouth as well as the snot slime slithering out its’ nose….

[@roryotoole3279]

The way I have always understood it is it's not so much Ghostbusters 2 but Bill Murray himself that kept any more Ghostbuster movies from being made. Among other things Bill Murray really did not like having to wear the uniforms and backpacks, that's why he doesn't really wear it as much as the others do in the second movie. Dan Aykroyd felt that if they couldn't get Bill Murray to come back they weren't going to make a Ghostbusters film without him. Only in recent years did he start becoming more open to coming back.

[@Bonesph]

Ghostbusters 2 is as good as any Ghostbusters sequel could be. I love it and watch it all the time. More then the first one.

[@tripledo.g.2551]

Facts💯 you had to be a kid back in them 80s and 90s to really appreciate a movie like this Ghostbusters is a classic just like 🥷 🐢 or GI Joe

[@ethancoolbro18gamer86]

I love Ghostbusters II. It's definitely not as good as the first film but it's still good.

[@jamesabernethy7896]

Pretty much my opinion on the movie. The first one is a hard act to follow, there were a few scenes which didn't land, but on the whole, I like it.

[@jahimjauh-hey5653]

I actually think Ghostbusters 2 is better than the orginal in some aspects like visual effects.

[@ethancoolbro18gamer86]

@@jahimjauh-hey5653 I agree with that.

[@KoldGFX]

Ghostbusters 2 is not just my favorite Ghostbuster movie; it's my favorite movie in general. There was so much to love here. The crew still gelled well, the main story was creepy, the city history was shown well to go with the story, the music was perfect, and it had funny moments.

[@syco579]

I feel like this movie gets way more hate than it deserves

[@scienceofficerash8791]

Yes it does much like Predator 2

[@richardrobertsDN38416]

Wow, first time i completely disagree with Klayton

[@georgeowain]

A few years ago, there was an article about Wilhelm von Homburg, who played Vigo. And there were some pretty unsettling things in it, from what I remember reading. For starters, his father, who along with Whelm, were originally cage fighter duo, Was suspected of being a former SS officer, but nothing came of it. Whelm's step-mother once filed a rape allegation against him. But action it seems was never taken. However, this has led some people to speculate that he may have actually been his half-sister's biological father. He was unaware until he saw the premier of the film, that he had been dubbed over by Max von Sydow. And stormed out of the cinema. He would then hang out in Red Light districts, associating with pimps and such. After battling cancer, he was found dead in his car somewhere in Mexico I think. And had in preparation of his eventful death, instructed a friend to wait six months after to inform his sister, As that was how long she waited to tell him of their father's death.

[@RoosterMontgomery]

Norbert Grupe aka Wilhelm von Homburg had plenty in common with Vigo. Gozer and Vigo were played by interesting people.

[@bradleydelmundo2699]

it always starts with the child in every horror movie. GB2 has the feeling of oncoming dredd and doom which I really appreciated. We didn’t get that in afterlife and we did get a hint of it in FE. My favorite “oh crap” scene is when the mayor looked out the window and saw the sun get swallowed up. That’s when we knew it was serious! Here’s my ultimate ghostbusters dream…. James Wan the director of the conjuring does Ghostbusters. I want more horror and creeps. However, I know in order to keep the franchise alive they need to make it appeal to parents who wouldn’t mind taking their little kids. Imagine if Ray, Podcast and Lars were investigating a haunted house somewhere in Connecticut where the family was demonically possessed, and each room they went into was a portal into another house/dimension. The whole movie is them trying to escape and free the soul of a little girl using the little bit of tech they brought with them. I want jump scares and the feeling of hopelessness, sprinkled with dry comedy. That’s my dream!

[@stevebragg4256]

I could argue the TV show has Ghosts scarier than anything in the movies. So much for that kid stuff.

[@pathkeepers]

Born in 1987, this movie was so weird to me. I remember having dreams about the pink ooze in the sewer. If it was aimed at kids, to push the cartoon and merch, it worked.

[@Stinger2578]

Ghostbusters II and Gremlins II were more kid-friendly, and being 11/12 when they released, I liked them both, so maybe nostalgia allows me to view them as 'fun' sequels. I view Superman III as well as Return of the Jedi, and Back to the Future 2 in a similar way, where they all left a stronger impression on me. Maybe the simple fact that I might have seen them all prior to going back to the earlier releases.

[@Dragoncurve]

I love Gremlins 2!

[@Mu1ty]

I've always loved it and thought it was an amazing movie that I watched more as a kid than the first one

[@rossincognito273]

I find ghost busters 2 more entertaining than 1 change my mind

[@thesearenotthedroidsyouare695]

It is my favourite one

[@RoosterMontgomery]

No need, I agree!

[@bradleydelmundo2699]

I agree. Love the soundtrack and how creepy it is.

[@kcadventures1454]

Man, it's still better than any sequel that came after it! Especially frozen empire! How many times can we have the teenager doesn't get along with the parents so she makes stupid decisions trope!?

[@NWAP1337]

Ghostbusters 2 was a great movie, especially compared to the slop Hollywood puts out these days.... just look at the 2016 reboot 🤮 Actually, don't.

[@Dragoncurve]

I didn’t 😂

[@wonkawilly5573]

So your alien had a room at the Holiday Inn, Paramus. Elaine: It might have been a room on the spacecraft made up to look like a room in the Holiday Inn. I can't be sure about that, Peter. Venkman: [to audience] Of course not! And that is the whole problem with aliens; is you just can't trust them. Occasionally you meet a nice one; Starman, E.T., but usually they turn out to be some kind of big lizard. That's all the time we've got for this week on 'World of the Psychic'. Next week though . . . hairless pets. [holds up a hairless cat] Weird. Until then, this is Peter Venkman saying [puts a finger to his temple and sends out a thought to his viewers; laughs] See you then!

[@adamdavis1737]

Is the 2016 version not the most controversial? Either way I love the hell out of this movie. No it's not as good as the first but I don't think it's bad by any stretch. There are still a lot of fun and funny moments and I think it's still charming as heck That scene with all the heads on the pikes in the subway tunnel is still unsettling

[@Dragoncurve]

I still refuse to see the 2016 movie. But it’s also not a sequel so that’s just the most disliked one overall

[@adamdavis1737]

@@Dragoncurve fair you're right on that

[@kdusel1991]

​@@Dragoncurve the 2016 one is an abomination that we don't speak of

[@Haplo699g]

It's not really controversial because most people hate it. I do find it interesting that in a movie led by four female "comics" the only person to get a laugh out of me was Chris Hemsworth.

[@justicierodelaliga]

I adore this movie. If you think this movie had too much on it and wasn´t very funny I´d like to know what you think of Frozen Empire.

[@Paulwithagun]

As a kid I always liked part 2 more than 1. As a adult I love both equally. Plus that scene with Winston in the tunnel with the train always gets me. One of my favorite Ghostbusters scenes.

[@mryes413]

Ghostbusters 2 was decent.

[@fophisthegreat6871]

I just realized that your dragon curve channel logo is the seventh iteration picture from Micheal Crichton’s Jurassic park novel.

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

He also has it tattooed on his left arm

[@andresdeleon5160]

I love ghostbusters 2

[@ZerocoolsPropsandCollectibles]

Same totally mind boggled by this guys take.

[@andrewwales8827]

I think the whole plot of the movie should have been the legal battle between the Ghostbusters and the city to try to get their business license back, ending with them losing and being forced into permanent retirement, but being called back into action anyway to save the city from Vigo. The whole court subplot just sorta goes away after the first half and the Ghostbusters go back into business right away. I always thought this was a mistake structurally because it built on the first movie's main theme of them struggling to run their own business. Ghostbusters 2 felt like two different movies. Imagine if the movie we got was about the Ghostbusters struggling to balance their duty of stopping Vigo with trying to defend themselves in court.

[@SuperMarioBrosIII]

@andrewwales8827 Well did you know that Ghostbusters II was suppose to open with the Ghostbusters at the courthouse on trial with Walter "Dickless" Peck LOL! But the actor couldn't settle with producers on how much money he would be paid if he returned. This is in the original first draft of the sequel. But sadly nothing was actually 🎥filmed! 👻🚫🧑‍⚖🏛

[@haroldthomas5407]

I will say this to til my last breath Ghostbusters is a franchise that should not be kid friendly nor should their be kids portraying gbusters. I refuse to believe the first movie was lighting in a bottle.

[@thegermanfnaffan3848]

Am I really the only Ghostbustersfan that loves the 1984, 1989, 2016 and 2021 Movies equally and that also loves the 2 Cartoon Series, the Video Games and Comics?!

[@Dripnoob46]

Don’t you dare say the year…. 2016…

[@thegermanfnaffan3848]

@@Dripnoob46 I dare, you f*cking hater!

[@thegermanfnaffan3848]

@@Dripnoob46 I do, you stupid hater!

[@SDfan2002]

@@Dripnoob46Get over it. Ghostbusters 2 was bad also.

[@bradpeterson7957]

I love it! I loved it in 89! And I love it now! Vigo is way scarier than Gozer! The River Of Slime is awesome! The subway scenes were creepy! Its fun, funny, and creepy to me. I also really enjoy The Lost World Jurassic Park. 👍

[@austintrousdale2397]

“Put the baby down, Peter.” Me: No, please, don’t… (Venkman proceeds to pretend-insult infant.) Me: 🤦‍♂️

[@anubusx]

1989 was the year for sequels.

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Thank goodness that the Ghostbusters game aka Ghostbusters 3 happened.

[@franciscogarcia-po8rp]

They simply waited too long between movies. That's how that momentum was lost. I'm a GB fan. I love it all. It's special to me because it was the 1st movie I ever asked my parents to take me to see as a young boy. My only real gripe with any of the movies is there never seems to be enough of the actual ghostbusting work we witness. That's why the real ghostbusters holds a lot of its ground, We watched their work on that show.

[@Transilvanian90]

Interesting opinion, but I completely disagree. I love both original Ghostbusters films, and honestly Vigo is a better villain than Gozer. Both films skirt the line between comedy and creepy REALLY well and I hold them to be equally good.

[@Jffeeney3rd]

Three words explain this flick “oh, darn it.” - Venkman

[@jasonsantos3037]

I understand why people don't like Ghostbusters 2 back in the day but hey this movie is way better than Ghostbusters 2016.

[@averycummings3537]

I love Ghostbusters II! I always have since 1989!

[@filmbuff2777]

I love Ghostbusters 2. Obviously because I saw it as a kid, but getting older there are some things I noticed that were nice touches. Venkman is a goof that doesn't really take Dana seriously in the first movie, but when she arrives at his apartment in GB2 with a crying Oscar distressed over the bathtub, he does take her more seriously & is concerned. I like that bit of character growth. And as a kid, the scene where Oscar is abducted from the ledge of the building scared me. I'd still take the Statue of Liberty sequence than Spielberg's idiotic ideas in The Lost World like the gymnastic scene, & the part where Sarah Harding, despite being built up as an expert on predators, still wears her jacket covered in the blood of the baby T-Rex, & they end up being tracked. The characters in that movie are also essentially worthless, with Roland pretty much being the only real interesting one, but even he doesn't come as great as a character like Quint. The 2009 Ghostbusters game worked as the 3rd movie, but was wiped from canon with Afterlife.

[@Dragoncurve]

Fair points! I actually really want to play the video game on the channel! I’ve actually never played it before so I’d be going in blind haha

[@matthewlloyd3220]

Oh yeah, highly recommend the 2009 video game. I feel like that still counts as the official 3rd movie, even though Bill Murray is phoning it in. @@Dragoncurve

[@michaeldiaz9999]

I personally do not hate this movie at all. It's a fun, enjoyable watch and I do believe the animosity towards it by many Ghostbusters fans is unwarranted. Not a perfect film mind you, but still fun. Also, going off topic, but clean shaven Klayton wearing a ball cap is kind of adorable.

[@T-ZillaYT]

I always loved Ghostbusters 2, I don’t know it was so hated.

[@toma.4808]

The film piggy banks off the cartoon. Except the cartoon was losing steam by that time. Vigo was a damn good villian. This film was clearly intended to draw in kids and it did. The film also held its own during a time were 1989 pumped out a bunch of great films Eg; batman I didnt hate gb2 it was what it was .

[@RoosterMontgomery]

Indeed. By 1989, RGB was just a vehicle for Slimer. Michael Starzynski helmed that show like it was the movie at times.

[@roryotoole3279]

But in the second film they didn't use Slimer in the same way as the cartoon. The closest it got was Slimer helping Rick Moranis get to the museum.

[@toma.4808]

@roryotoole3279 okay so we wasn't rays best buddy. He still hung around around the firehouse and didn't did silly things like drive a bus and hang around Louis. There's deleted scenes that were shot about slimer hanging around the firehouse

[@lordvlygar2963]

I'm not a big fan of the sequel, but, wow, it was much better than that witch script you mentioned. Yikes. I feel like there's a great version of this movie to be found if we had access to all deleted material.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Flaws aside I never hated Ghostbusters II. Sure it could've been improved in some areas, but I still found it amusing and I think Vigo is a bit more of a memorable villain since he's actually involved throughout the whole movie as opposed to Gozer who doesn't even show up until near the end of the film.

[@Dragoncurve]

Vigo is a fun villain. Wish they used him more

[@kdusel1991]

​@@DragoncurveI wish they used him for afterlife rather than just have Gozer come back.

[@USLethal]

Fans don't hate Ghostbuster 2. Critics do.

[@ECKohns]

I’m pretty sure Bill Murray’s disinterest and his feud with Harold Ramis is was killed the franchise.

[@doom7ish]

I always Love Ghostbusters 2. Flipping love it. Still canon.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

0:55 Also just gonna say it but On Our Own slaps as a theme.

[@Dragoncurve]

It does!

[@Scottocaster6668]

Klayton, you dont look like i pictured with your awesome voice. You look like Andy Sirakis(?). Love the Channels👍👍

[@toddhensley880]

The villain Vigo is great, and I get such a kick out of Peter MacNicol in this. Also contains a great line: “Death is but a door. Time is but a window. I’ll be back.”

[@Ben-pd2bx]

Ghostbusters 2 gets a couple of things right. I genuinely love all the scenes between Peter and Dana. Those moments are the only stuff in the whole movie that actually pushes the story forward, rather than repeating beats from the first movie. She's no longer a girl he wants to take on a date. Now she's now the one who got away. Because they're both such good actors, they imbue their scenes with actual depth, and we can see that Peter isn't a sketchy cad hitting on coeds anymore. He's an older guy with some regrets who actually loves this woman and wants to be a Dad. I also think Viggo is a genuinely good villain, and I like that this time out the main bad guy is just... a ghost. I wish they'd trapped him in the end instead of making him... explode from slime (?) but aside from that - a worthy and unique successor to Gozer. But just about EVERYTHING else it gets wrong. The major mistake it makes is having the Ghostbusters be broke and out of business at the start, so they can do another going into business movie. In all of cinema I think of this as maybe one of the biggest missed opportunities in any sequel. We'd already seen them be broke. OBVIOUSLY the thing we want to see next is how they handle success. You don't shrink the story back down: You expand it, and you do that by expanding the business. Are they a corporation now, with Peter as CEO, operating out of a Manhattan skyscraper? Are there new recruits? Have competing Ghostbusting companies sprung up? Are they still privately owned, or are they now a city utility? What does the world of academia look like now that parapsychology has been entirely vindicated? This is what I wanted to see, even as a kid, and we never got it. It kills me. If you keep the Dana and Peter stuff, keep Viggo, and even still have them being sued by the city... but EXPAND ON THE PREMISE OF THE ORIGINAL BY PUSHING THE BUSINESS FORWARD... it instantly becomes a vastly better movie in my opinion. Of course, the elephant in the room is that the score is also terrible, and the cinematography and production design have all taken a step down as well. Get Elmer Bernstein back to do music, get Laslo Kovacs back to be DP, and find someone as good as the (by then) late John DeCuir, and expand the business, and GBII would be vastly better thought of.

[@Dragoncurve]

Excellent points! I like what Bo Welch did and the special effects are great but yeah the music isn’t as good as part 1 at all. I think the plot ideas you brought up make way more sense and that would’ve made it way more interesting. I don’t hate the movie but it’s a pretty big swing and a miss for me because of pretty much everything you said. It’s a rehash of part 1 but not as good so it comes off as kind of redundant.

[@jamesabernethy7896]

I've replied to a few comments already. I love the original and strongly like this one. I really enjoy your reviews. I do follow some in depth reviews and analysis. I love the enjoyment you clearly have for movies and appreciate how warm they feel rather than a clinical analysis. You do so many great movies from the past but Dune would be a great series to hear your opinions on. The recent adaptations are some of the best movies in years. As amazing as the new ones are, II still feel the 1984 version is the best.

[@Dragoncurve]

Hey thanks for the kind words! I really appreciate that! Yeah I think GB2 isn’t as good as part 1 but I still enjoy it in the franchise and don’t want it being undone or forgotten or anything. In fact I’m super interested to see how it stacks up after seeing the new one. I think I’m slowly becoming a GB fan haha. Also yes absolutely I should get on Dune eventually. I have lots of fun thoughts about even the 1984 movie. I think it’s visually awesome

[@jamesabernethy7896]

The movie is has an amazing style. What I think is forgotten about is how great the Sandworms are. I think because they were puppeteered and not CGI, they had life and personality.@@Dragoncurve

[@bratton79]

I saw this movie in the theater when I was 10. I loved it. I still do. A few years later I was friends with someone who had the movie on laser disc, and he had a surround sound home theater system in his home. During the part of GB 2 where the guys encounter the ghost train and a booming voice says WINSTON!, the walls in my friend’s house shook so bad I thought we were having an earthquake. I also enjoyed Max Von Sidow’s deep, resonating voice as Vigo.

[@2296652]

It's good seeing you in the video's! Could you do this on the Main Channel too? ✌️

[@Dragoncurve]

I should start yeah! Thanks for the kind words!

[@Nikko1Brown]

I enjoyed it. Probably have to watch both to see the differences

[@eddieblancher7557]

Ghostbusters 2 may not be but I still love it, the parts I like are the Statue of Liberty coming to life, Louis Tully becoming a Ghostbusters and the Ghostbusters are going back in action.a

[@TheNESevolution]

I was born in 1983 and ghostbusters 2 was the first ghostbusters I saw growing up …I love it and the song on our own by Bobby brown …dude this movie is good lol to me it is funny and memorable

[@Dragoncurve]

I love the song!

[@TheNESevolution]

@@Dragoncurve plus I love the statue of liberty stuff lol I just saw it for the first time when we sailed out of New York like a month ago ….and my wife and I stood on the deck of the ship sailing by I had to play the song from the movie ..higher and higher lol …she’s a harbor chick 😂

[@LoneWolfProdNY]

Here’s a fun fact about the Ghostbusters cartoon. Before he created Mortal Kombat with Ed Boon, John Tobias worked on some of the comic books based on the cartoon series.

[@kingdanzer]

I've always loved this movie! maybe not quite on the same level as the first but i still love it.

[@MisterSouji]

Ok, so remember in the Ghostbusters game, when they brought back the Stay Puft marshmallow man? What if... hear me out... you had to use the statue of liberty to fight him?

[@SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG]

Nah Ghostbusters 2016 and Afterlife are garbage. I can actually sit thru the second film. Just as RLM said, "Ghostbusters was lightning in a bottle" and fueled by cocaine IT CAN NEVER BE DUPLICATED!! You Like Ghostbusters, BUT you LOVE the idea of Loving Ghostbusters.. Hell Afterlife's entire 3rd act was like a beat for beat repeat of REMEMBER THIS NOSTALGIA ATTACK/WALMART COMMERCIAL.

[@SystemZ3RO]

Loved this as a kid (saw this one before the first one) but after seeing the first one later on, I could understand the hate it got. I still enjoyed it but yeah, the 3rd act with the statue of liberty was pretty cringe. But overall was still an enjoyable movie, and in my imo Vigo was a much more imposing villian than Gozer. Though looking back, 1989/90 was around the time movies first took a leaning towards child audiences. Every major movie in the 80's had toys marketed towards kids who where too young to see those movies, but at their core had things that would appeal to 80's kids. * Cop who's a robot who fights bad guys, some of whom are also robots. * Team of alien hunters with cool guns and vehicles. * Robot from the future fights another robot from the future with cool guns. * Ghost hunters with cool tech and a cooler car. * Guy dresses as a bat and fights crime with cool tech and cooler car. Now make a cartoon and/or toys of these movies and you print money. So it stands to reason that now that you have a brand new target audience built solely off branded merchandise that you can now make more money off of at the box office. You just have to dumb down the adult themes. It's why Ghostbusters II feels like a live action version of the cartoon. It's why Robocop 3 has a jetpack. It's why we got Jim Carey in Batman Forever.

[@michaeldiaz9999]

Star Trek 5: The Final Straw. That was hilarious I am not gonna lie.

[@michaelmyers3709]

Wouldn’t say it’s controversial. Just all the people who say it’s bad are wrong.

[@Hepler-s2b]

It wasn't until I was older that I realized some people actually hated this movie. I absolutely loved it as a kid, I would say out of the two it's actually my favorite

[@YSL8704]

Ngl, I think it was a BIT overrated... I mean, it's definitely not an amazing film, but it's definitely not terrible...

[@YSL8704]

Goddamnit auto-correct, I typed overhated!

[@Bigshark9000]

Ghostbusters 2 one of those films like the lost world jurassic park which is a half-baked film thats both balance and charming enough for it to be good. Now of course, definitely be a preference what you like more. But Ghostbusters 2 got some dark stuff like the Titanic passengers arriving, two brothers who got the chair is gnarly, imagery at times. Of course they had to lighten it up, not only because of the series. But i think parents too back then cracked down on that sorta thing when it came to streaming material for kids to view. Although if you ask me, it was probably that sweet toy money coming in. Although GB2 jokes arent safe either gotta admit that green card joke wouldn't work nowadays. 9:19 I get what you're trying to say about TLW tones, but TLW got a decent amount of comedic moments too, its not completely innocent of comedy like kelly dueling the raptor, the burger order joke, puntastic high hid. Sure im blanking on some but you get the point. Ghostbusters has that as well. But in their style. Film Example I would use is GB 2 very similar with MiB2 but I'll glady take GB 2 over it. Like GB 2 wasnt gonna be good as the first very few sequels are especially back then. But great work Klayton nice to see you expand your pallet.

[@scotsmith2391]

I saw the original in the theater and enjoyed it, but wasn't enthralled by it. I definitely did not like GB 2. But then i watched Afterlife and kind of enjoyed it and got way unexpectedly sentimental about the cameos in it. Especially considering I thought GB was only "okay." Which leads me to believe I was more sentimental about the 1980s throw back than the actual cameos. If you were alive and functional teen or adult in the 1980s that was just the time and place to be...

[@joeljukus9129]

GB II is way better than any GB movie to follow

[@thegermanfnaffan3848]

Finally someone with a fully functional brain in this Commentsection!

[@kdusel1991]

I only like the first one. Two is at least a little bit better than afterlife but not by much. Afterlife to me felt a little hollow and I didn't really like how they brought the originals back. It should've just focused on the kids becoming new Ghostbusters.

[@neilmendrico5262]

For me the best of GBII was the entire courthouse sequence from start to finish and I just wish the movie was more of that. But I'm still enjoying it, it's rewatchable depending on mood.

[@colmreilly8779]

They made the first one as a comedy with no expectations to live up to. By the sequel it had become a franchise. The movie had to give the audience more of the same. They were selling toys and lunchboxes.

[@alexkogan9755]

There’s some movies that shouldn’t have been a franchise, and then there’s Ghostbusters which is quite possibly the most schizophrenic one because it can’t quite make up its mind (when it tries to be a franchise it does so in ways we don’t like, and then refuses to do what we ask it to do when the opportunity exists).

[@AndyR1982]

I look at some movies and sequels like this. First movie good I'll watch the second. Second movie okay, but doesn't fit...that is head cannon a different timeline. Third movie way bad, different dimension so it doesn't effect the timeline.

[@lucasguinn_42.youtube]

I really loved Ghostbusters 2 as a matter of fact I've watched it on all of the streaming channels numerous times and watching it never gets old for me.

[@NebLleb]

You can't say that a movie with the line "Valentine's Day. Bummer." killed anything!

[@Magicmoviemakers1]

The thing is it wasn’t this movie that put it in hiatus but the 3, they were planning it but it never happened.

[@jacotromp59581]

Since it's release, I have loved the sequel more than the original. Is it better? No, but it's a lot more fun for me

[@Dragoncurve]

I totally get that. I don’t think GB2 is a great movie. But I do enjoy the fact that it exists.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@Dragoncurve it's not bad, it's just not nearly as good as the original

[@jacotromp59581]

@@Dragoncurve i was the target audience when it came out and they were successful. Seeing in the cinema was a great experience as a kid. I

[@MrPresidentGeek]

Ghostbusters II was fine. Neither great nor terrible. BTW, love the Wolfpac t-shirt.

[@Dragoncurve]

WCW 🤟

[@MartyMcFly88]

I really like part 2. Best to worst it goes 1 > 2 > Afterlife > Frozen Empire >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016

[@popculturejackh9201]

I just love Ghostbusters 2. Hopefully the hate and the hiatus of the franchise isn't repeated with Frozen Empire

[@louismendoza-y9l]

It is a good film, but it's like old friends you haven't seen in years, and they had kids. Not as much fun as the original.

[@Horrormaster13]

I like Ghostbusters 2 (1989). I actually watched it several times on VHS when I was a kid. Even more than the 1984 Original. It might be a controversial opinion, but I always found Vigo much scarier than Zuul and Gozer.

[@TheOneTrueKit]

The religious sign-off on your vids always catches me by surprise

[@alang.bandala8863]

I never understood why, after every apocalypsis cancelled, the ghostbusters always are rieiculized

[@smarti1144]

I saw this one first. Just like temple of doom. It makes your perspective so different when you watch out of order.

[@anubusx]

It is weird that End Of Days and Ghostbusters 2 are so alike.

[@robk.6591]

"Ghostbusters 2 sucks." - Tony Piluso from Hack The Movies

[@kdusel1991]

It's at least better than that atrocious female reboot.

[@rayvenkman2087]

1989 was a brutal year for some established series. Godzilla vs Biollante didn’t exactly drew the big numbers of Return, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier almost killed off the TOS Film series plus Star Trek TNG Season 2 was airing during the franchise’s most tumultuous period from Writer’s Strike to the behind the scenes chaos (writers leaving in doves, budget issues, the works, change in showrunners) that could have killed the series dead had Season 3 not materialise and give us the Star Trek TNG we know now, Doctor Who would air it’s 26th and final televised season during the Classic Era with the franchise going into a Wilderness Period that saw a failed 1996 pilot for a Fox revival series, Transformers Generation 1 was on the decline toy sales wise with it ending in 1991 that saw a two year gap of no new TF products (For North American fans) until Generation 2, Jim Shooter’s tenure as Marvel Comics’ editor in chief would come to an end after overseeing the company’s most successful period since the 1960’s and Looney Tunes would lose Mel Blanc that year. If anyone else has other examples to name, share it here.

[@Dragoncurve]

Both Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th. Heck even Halloween

[@huylam6382]

Actually, I grew up with Ghostbusters 2 and then the cartoon. Loved it when I was a kid and watched the original later when I was in highschool It was not as good as part 2 for me when I was able to get the VHS. I guess it just all depends when you grew up and when you were first exposed to ghostbusters.

[@ufc354811]

Ranking from Best to Worst: Ghostbuster 2, Ghostbusters, Afterlife, then Frozen Empire. The abomination that came out in 2016 is not even a ghostbusters movie and is just that an abomination and shall be referred to as such

[@anubusx]

The torches terrified me as a kid.

[@anthonypalicka4776]

Do we go over the fact Bill Murray rarely does a sequel, or we playing that as an excuse?

[@Cazz8203]

I dont remember when i watched the first movie. I was born in 82. But i know i had seen it, and i remember being a huge fan of the cartoon. Had the toys, dressed up as em for Halloween once. And Ghostbusters 2 was one of the first movies i remember seeing in theaters. I think my first was who framed roger rabbit. And as a super tmnt fanatic, that was rhe first movie i got to watch in theaters by myself. Anyways, i have nothing but fond memories of GB2. Me and my friend had matching GB2 shirts we wore to the theater. It was just a great experience. I loved the movie. And in my experience, it seemed like GB2 was played on TV the most years later. So i guess in that regard , i just always had a closer connection with the sequel over the first. I still love it. Bill Murray was hilarious from start to finish. And while i understand everyone's complaints....my only particular complaint was the music. I definitely prefer the score of the first film over bobbie brown. The dark and eerie sounds of the first movie are iconic. But thats my thoughts as a child from that time

[@danielwilliamson6180]

Ghostbusters 2 is my favourite Ghostbusters movie and it's great and it's better than the 2016 Ghostbusters reboot.

[@RaptorofRex07]

Both these films scare to spoot out of me. From the slime in the tub to the living fur coat

[@subraxas]

Apart from the 'Statue of Liberty' thing, the film is OK. And among other things, I've always found Peter MacNicol hilarious on this one. Plus the flick brought home very decent 215 MIL Bucks (547+ MIL in today's money) on a budget of only 40 MIL. So it earned more than fivefold of what it cost; that's what (not only) I call a "daaaamn good business"! Either way, here on YT are quite a few retrospective reviews of it with pretty self-explanatory titles, such as "Ghostbusters 2 is actually GOOD!" or "Ghostbusters 2 may be even better than the first one".

[@jerryziegner]

I recall seeing Ghost Busters 2 when it was released and having mixed emotions. I loved seeing the characters back on the screen again, but the actual story was off for some reason. I enjoyed Afterlife and I’m looking forward to seeing Frozen Empire.

[@dianagarza9988]

I don't know if anyone remembers gene siskel and Roger Ebert they didn't like this movie either Ghostbusters 2.

[@cosmicXtropics]

I think Ghostbusters in general has become the biggest flop of a franchise. It's had soooo many chances and it's failed too many times.

[@ronaldwagner1343]

I still love this movie.

[@B-eg2oc]

My only complaint is the logo holding up two fingers on all their gear. Lol

[@Dragoncurve]

I tried to make it bunny ears for Vigo in my thumbnail 😂

[@herodaresfire4512]

I love the first two. Afterlife was good, haven't seen 2016. Seeing Frozen Empire this weekend.

[@Jackie535]

Whoa…..I wouldn’t get that far….is it really that terrible? Because it isn’t in my opinion….