DOGFIGHTING TIPS - SWITCHING & LOSING TAILS - Battlefield 4 Jet Tutorial/Tips

[@Reaper5201]

You got three types of pilots. The amateurs, the skilled pilots, and the ones who just fly around in a circle around their spawn hoping you'd get taken out by the AA.

[@mordekaiandbigrigs]

Reaper5201 Im the amateur. i follow what everyone says but i still suck.

[@chomummy9449]

xXƇarnaꝿeClaiṝvơyantXx I would say I'm in the middle. Not super high level, but do know what I'm doing enough for jdam, dogfighting etc. Still a long ways to to for me tho ✌

[@punterlotek7460]

I was in the first leage on the world :D but now when I'm backing to bf4 I'm flying like a noob, and when I'm getting it, I'm being unlucky and dying from stupid things or just OP enemy MAA

[@derivedfever807]

Reaper5201 I’m between amateur and skilled

[@biggusdiccus123]

Im skilled

[@phantomlegend6167]

Hey just started flying jets yesterday on bf4 and today there was a guy on my tail so I started flying in a loop and switching and it saved me. Thanks.

[@GhostGamingg]

Glad to hear it helped man

[@im-fr0sty72]

@@GhostGamingg can u do the same video, but with jet camera off?

[@vibinlights6020]

Here i am 6 years later, still trying to be good at the game 💀 Good video btw, thank you for this useful information!

[@GhostGamingg]

You’re welcome man, gl!

[@VexilleThePunisher]

It's never too late, especially with bf6 just around the corner ;)

[@ASSASSINKINGX49]

I'm here because of bf5

[@DR3ADNAU7Gaming]

There's really nothing else like it sadly. In the same boat man

[@noggfeller]

@@VexilleThePunisher RIP

[@MrBitemeidareya]

I did not know that ecm took you of the air radar, thanks ghost for the usefully tips. Keep up the good work!

[@GhostGamingg]

The more you know man, thanks for watching dude!

[@KristopherWilliams_tahmson]

I just wanted to applaud your work, and your channel. You're rocking a clean 4k resolution, along with very good information for improving your game. Your editing skills are very well rounded, and they're way effective for your channel. For your title effects, maybe try toning down the contrast a bit and sort of cleaning up the words for a "simplistic esque" kinda look. Sort of metaphorically tightens up your image, and echoes professionalism. But yeah, great work. This depth of game mechanics will be the future of KZbin gaming channels. Right now it's being overrun with fluffy videos (e.g. "weapon reviews") so naturally it's time for a subtle evolution of a corner of the interwebs.

[@GhostGamingg]

Thanks for your feedback man, I really appreciate it and it's great to get ideas on areas I can improve, so thankyou for that. Glad you enjoyed sir :)

[@user-mk5vj5bf3j]

one tip is when they're on you you should turn with the flaps so that way they have to aim at a very slim part of the jet

[@GhostGamingg]

Finally finished! It would be awesome to hit 100 likes with this one guys, put quite a lot of work into this

[@scottlee5588]

It would be an atrocity if this video didn't get 100 likes

[@GhostGamingg]

Lucky it did then ey mate? :)

[@scottlee5588]

Yup it deserved more though

[@Multi12345123456]

great videos you should have way more popularity!

[@GhostGamingg]

Thankyou mate!

[@muthulhuv608]

This series has Without a doubt the best jet info I have found . It has really opened up bf4 beyond ground pounding for me

[@GhostGamingg]

Welcome to the air mate :D

[@BoisterousBeard]

Great tips Ghost! I've never been a good pilot in BF3 nor in the beginning of BF4, but your tutorials got me into the jets and now I'm loving every moment of them (and progressively getting better as well :-)).

[@Vigilence]

Wow great tips! I had a lot of trouble shaking off pilots before, this should help greatly!

[@cristianvega656]

I wouldn’t say that the ecm blinds the guy on ur tail. Cause most of the time once I’m behind an enemy pilot and he pops ecm it doesn’t do much of a difference cause I can still clearly see him unless I’m in first person which I only use to check mi speed control and to aim cause I have camera chase off (Best decision I made) (PS4 by the way) and thanks for turning this rookie into an ace pilot 🤟

[@dinostormguy2624]

I'm following all your Steps and it Worked! For some reason, I always lack my Controller Joysticks because When Ever I get to somebody tell on Console, I always move and my Heart beat, Which Mean that I'm really Nervous on getting to a Enemy Tail!!!!

[@jessietatum4989]

Really like these tips makes it a whole lot easier to fly / use the jets effectively

[@zenniththefolf4888]

It's impossible to even spawn in a jet now.

[@sadisticunicorn4854]

Already knew all this but good video all the same, glad your not one of those "stay on his tail and keep using the heat seekers till hes dead."

[@Kirinko.]

I’m good at getting in tail with enemy jets But I’m not good at losing tails

[@AdamNoizer]

Thank you. Started playing this again on PS5 and just couldn’t shake them off my tail on the Dawnbreaker map. The big skyscrapers certainly don’t help. Will give this strategy a try 👍🏼

[@Foggymist399]

I get at least 40 kills a game in jets. Thanks to your videos ghost. Thank you

[@michaelparissi3233]

Attack or stealth?

[@ELREMMYRM]

How to do that move? As if the jet to move sideways. sorry for my english

[@njuey]

I'm still learning about mastering speed control and losing tail. can u give some advice when someone tailing on us, are we tapping the decelerate button to mantain the 300-315 or we just hold and release it? because they re always quickly behind me again after im looping them. i watched all your vids. thumbs and thanks!

[@GhostGamingg]

Yeah man it's more like tapping, I tap it periodically if I'm doing a horizontal loop. When it comes to vertical looping however, I hold accelerate on the way up and brake on the way down.

[@michaelparissi3233]

Every second tap the break until you reach 315 -300 you’ll notice the deference in the turning speed

[@nightblade178]

@@michaelparissi3233 ayi it's been 7 years since he made that comment

[@tombowombo-]

@@nightblade178 I've had this game almost 5 years and I don't think I've gotten more than 5 kills in a jet

[@nightblade178]

@@tombowombo- I also got this game for 5 years but with 23k kills in jet

[@GaboG3]

Very useful tips, unfortunately I mostly play hardcore so no radar/third person 🤣 Still useful every now and then. Hopefully Battlefield 6 has similar dog-fighting!

[@GhostGamingg]

I hope so too man, I could never really get into hardcore because of the lack of auto repair in air vehicles. The jets are just too hard to land in Battlefield 4, it was doable in Battlefield 3 but at least there the had landing strips and you had a fair chunk of armor left after you'd gotten disabled.

[@TheDarthlightning]

Finally Ghost, I don't have to be bait anymore I can help you and btw awesome intro ;)

[@GhostGamingg]

Thanks buddy :)

[@clinton219]

A lot of this doesn’t apply in hardcore. I can look out of the top of my canopy while looping at perfect speed and no amount of switching will save you. Doesn’t do much for me forgetting about the ground, or the AA though 😂

[@J0hnnyrenegxde]

Thanks lad greatly appreciated

[@GhostGamingg]

no worries man

[@alanlee67]

Protip: If you got someone on your tail and you feel they're lining up for a killshot...try banking in any direction. When your tail goes to follow you...brake to 313, pitch down and roll in any direction using opposite rudders as hard as you can. Your jet will almost instantly flip 180 degrees. Impossible to follow effectively for any pilot granted that they went for the first move. One of the slickest moves in the game. Disclaimer: Like with any move, don't overuse this. It's good but only if your tail goes for your initial turn. If you are on the offensive against this, sit back for a bit and watch for the double move. Cut the second move.

[@inf3953]

Number 1 tips is using US jets. CN and RU jets sucks at maneuver and had big surface area

[@GhostGamingg]

Yeah it is unfortunate that they are not all equal, but you have to make do with whatever you get!

[@MumboPlays]

Dem cinamatics doe :O

[@CrazyShoot]

great video as usual

[@GhostGamingg]

Cheers buddy :)

[@xXFaTaLPwNaGe]

You're probably one of the most underestimated youtubers on the net, shit you deserve far more subcribers... keep up the awesome job Ghost, cheers from Italy :)

[@GhostGamingg]

Cheers mate! How nice of you :D

[@MisatoEnjoyer]

I genuinely hate seeing vehicle mains, ruins the flow as infantry and unstoppable as aircraft especially if they’re in a duo

[@berengerchristy6256]

time to git gud, or remain bad and just abuse lock ons. lock ons + a little bit of teamwork is absolutely broken in bf4

[@MisatoEnjoyer]

@@berengerchristy6256 I’m not garbage I don’t use lock ons lmao

[@canismajoris6733]

Jets just kill choppers and tanks.mostly you complete idiot.

[@ziyadomar5891]

Im just tryna get those 3 ecm jammers for the ucav 😭

[@Peru_Soldier]

really helpful for me who is learning jets 10 years later 😂

[@jonowee]

Next lesson, tactics for beating lock on missiles? In BF3, apparently you could outturn heatseekers. Now in BF4, missiles turn at one million Gs to hit you. In a head to head engagement, I've watched the MAA double tap Active Radars, I popped my ECM and wave off before the lock tone and still they lock and hit, #DICEPLS Currently I'm a stealth jet and a transport chopper pilot when I'm in a flying mood. But there's a very bad glitch that consistently gives no audio hit notification on the stealth jets by guns.

[@Nightguard6139]

Thank you so much. There was this idiot in the server i play in he keeps killing me and killing me. This helps a lot

[@jhk8396]

I'm assuming that the F-35 is good because it can fight like an attack helicopter.

[@nateh7750]

You dont want to pull a switch at the top of your loop its easy to pick up

[@richzzzard]

great vid keep up the good work

[@GhostGamingg]

Ty man, I will!

[@deadgaming9284]

thanks for the tips I'm a console player on Xbox and I'm a very confident Infantry Soldier looking to learn how to fly when I'm on the ground I usually drop 4.0 k/d ratio with over 30 kills but when I fly It's like a foreign language to me I'm going to go practice

[@XD_OMG33]

Awesome tips thanks

[@jaywhitney789]

Great video I favourite them all

[@GhostGamingg]

Thankyou so much man!

[@iamjason1279]

This doesn’t work I’ve tried this “switch” technique and it does nothing but get me killed, i play on console.

[@kage_tactical]

Is it possible to bleed a speed of a fighter jet

[@archieperkin5554]

Thank you

[@karleisheim8043]

First of all. Great tutorial ;D Which graphics cardS do you have to constantly play at 120fps while recording :O (Sry if you´ve still answerde the question)

[@GhostGamingg]

Thanks man! I use a single GTX 780 :)

[@karleisheim8043]

Omg. Didn´t think that it performs so good :o

[@Iamfr0ggy]

You have a fantastic Chanel keep up the good work

[@GhostGamingg]

Thankyou friend :)

[@user-bq1xu1qv8t]

Cool thing, you managed to guess the style of 2042

[@beeno3487]

6:18 note to self j20 pilot never attempted a switch. Use the switch me.

[@pel..-]

I am having heaps of trouble, I come across these fighter pilots and they are ALWAYS behind me. I try and loop vertically, but the manage to stay on that loop and take me out. I try to loop horizontally, but they just shred me. I don't have ECMs so it makes it harder, and I am always being outurned, despite me trying what you say here. I am just wondering how they always take me out, I stay around 300-330 speed when turning but do I need to tap de throttle while going up and down? This just really angers me because no matter how hard I try they are always behind me.

[@GhostGamingg]

Don't get frustrated man it takes a lot of playing to get good at dogfighting. But yeah, you need to hold throttle up when you're going up, and as you near the top of a loop you need to tap afterburner in the stealth jet to keep your speed at 313. If somebody approaches you without you seeing them, they will always have a massive advantage, if you see a jet coming for you, your best bet is to turn and face him head on, fly past him and then start looping to try and get on his tail, that way you'll both be at a fair start.

[@pel..-]

Ghost Gaming thanks for that, have always been thinking I should be able to win despite a jet being behind me already. I’ll have to practice on following their leads more cause usually they’ll outrun me. Thanks!

[@KrazePlays]

Omg! Big step up bro, thanks alot

[@GhostGamingg]

Cheers man!:)

[@KrazePlays]

Ghost Gaming - Improve Your Game Its kay!

[@miner1168]

Honestly I didnt knew that poppin ECM makes u vanish off the enemy radar

[@KaanTechCrazy]

I played many air superiority and did many dog fights but I must admit no1 ever fooled me with switch with ECM. Trail always gave their position away. They end up getting killed by me while their ECM is active.

[@123456vectra]

Great video ghost but i tend to stay away from the jets xd i only like the attack jet and than take out ground units but when a other jet comes i instanly bail out. I just hate dogfighting in BF4 in BF3 is was pretty beast but the mini map here fucks me up

[@GhostGamingg]

Yeah I wish it was like the BF3 days, the chase camera was much better

[@Ben-dc2jk]

In ps4 i cant write in the game sadly thing

[@boergerrit9257]

Right after finally being able to watch (I had to eat whilst I was in the middle of it), I must say I already figured out most of these maneuvers (

[@GhostGamingg]

Yeah baby, 3rd person all day long in the stealth :P. The moves themselves are easy to perform once you don't cock up speed control, but knowing when to do them and in which direction takes some practice.

[@boergerrit9257]

Well I should try it too then. And about beginning pilots flying straight towards....the amount of times I've been rammed due to this... Well it's better than being deliberately rammed which happened to me yesterday. Surprised i wasn't banned from that server for my language against this person ;p. I can understand them being pissed though, I was laser guided bombing TOW launchers and quads :3.

[@Shinqazin]

I got 2 kills with the f35

[@anthonyvargas9143]

What do you do when you have no unlocks, and keep getting hounded by skilled players? When I'm airborne, they're right on me before I can try anything. It's worse when they team against me, even if I'm tailing one.

[@aristarchinski272]

In a lot of the clips you were dogfighting J-20’s which from my experience preform worse than the F35’s, would like to see more fair fights

[@dangerdoberman]

Enemy jets usually don't take me out...enemy AA usually do...

[@jaydendabral4619]

#RoadTo10k Goast Gaming!!!!!

[@trema12345]

how did you get your minimap so big at 4:33. or is it from video editing?

[@atrymasylum5167]

Hey dude, nice video! i have a question, where can i find servers with air superiority mode? i cant find them ;( thx and sorry for my english

[@GhostGamingg]

Hey man thanks for watching! Air Superiority servers can be hard to find, just try to use the filters to search for all sizes and amounts of players. I can only usually find 1 or 2.

[@caphunterx2322]

Can you do a video about engaging an enemy lose tails and keep behind an player. But the first engagement seems hard. Most of the time I end up behind and have to sweat my self of focusing on speed to lose him

[@OPENMUNDOYT]

from 2021 to 2014 just to say your videois helping me to learn it in BF4 . tnx .. p.s. : we have Covid-19 here. buy a mask (you will need it in 2021) 🙌

[@sleggarlaw8624]

@AMERICAN DUDE 7605 Lol...you think your shitty needle keeps you protected against a virus that will mutate countless times. Society will be wearing masks for life. The corrupt elite love it and are profiting handsomely

[@iazy47]

ESM still lock in my, is okay only used flare?

[@scottlee5588]

I think this really helped because I would spend 8 minutes trying to get a guy off my tail and the second I shoot him as he comes towards me he won't move and a jet ram happens but nice advice on that also do you think missiles are really any good because I use them to stop the engine of the target then I shoot them

[@GhostGamingg]

Personally I don't bother using missiles on stealth jet, I prefer to keep Laser-guided, but a lot of other people use ARMs (which are annoying as hell! :P)

[@scottlee5588]

I actually hate arms they're cheap and hard to use on helis

[@Liquid_Fluid]

hey ghost! i am new (and late), and im really interested in flying jets. But my enemy makes me feel like they have some kind of hacks or something, because i feel like throwing them off with ecm doesnt work and the dude still knows where i am, why is this?? im really frustrated

[@cripfrancis8690]

How do I switch what button do I press

[@dogezilla3315]

Hey when I hit 315 there was a video that said that your plane goes ahead of your jet but it's not working for me is there a setting for it?

[@sorinciobanu4561]

When scissor video technik ?

[@SamuraiM0]

Ghost Gaming - Improve Your Game How are you able to accurately shoot so in 3rd person? Also ur using the arrow keys to manoeuvre right? or are you one those joysdicks.

[@GhostGamingg]

I use mouse/keyboard to manoeuvre yes, I actually found using 3rd person in the stealth jets to be easier to aim with than 1st person believe it or not, just practice man :).

[@joshuano.v]

getting ready for bf2042 with this 😈

[@Taylor-fh3ys]

Rest in peace

[@joshuano.v]

@@Taylor-fh3ys i do play and like the game doe

[@leoharker734]

@@Taylor-fh3ys lmao

[@jezwilliams3162]

Love your videos. Aiming for division 1 in my country. :)

[@GhostGamingg]

Thanksyou man, good luck! :)

[@jezwilliams3162]

Update: I'm in division 1 ! Thank you!

[@GhostGamingg]

Gz bro!

[@battnz5199]

Why would you be least visible at the top and bottom? It's not like the camera flips a la BF3.

[@GhostGamingg]

because of the altitude distance, often when you're at the top of a loop, the enemy is maybe tailing you and is at the bottom of his, if you decide to switch horizontally while he's at the bottom, he may not see it, but if you do it while you're both horizontal (i.e. he's at 9 o'clock and you're at 3 o'clock) it's more likely he'll catch you. Also, you're air radar still flips, so that confuses people too.

[@falseo5139]

I still lose my dogfights to pilots because I don't know how to engage them. And I also don't know moves to get them off my tail. I pop my ecm and do switches but it doesn't work. Could you please make a video on this to help me and other amateur pilots. Thanks.

[@apsay123]

Ghost, you sent me here from your Mobile AA video. Would you say that drafting is every a good strategy? Drafting being slowing down so that the jet tailing you that is presumably going much much faster than you passes you and allows you to tail the enemy jet. Don't know if you covered this in your speed control video as I have not gotten to it yet.

[@GhostGamingg]

Some people seem to do that but I've never found it particularly off-putting, it is quite annoying sometimes when people are speed failing since I'm reluctant to reduce speed. Even if they pass you, you simply loop directly upwards and they won't be able to get their speed up in time to chase you.

[@Raidenofficial]

Nah too complicated. I'll stay on the ground...

[@tacticalfall4505]

Just be the mobile AA and you’re a lot less likely to lose dogfights. Plus, quadruple gatling guns (except for US) capable of killing infantry and air

[@Sojerothetenkin101]

Are you using a mouse? Is a joystick better?

[@GhostGamingg]

I use mouse/keyboard :)

[@3lementa1]

GhostGaming Hi. :) Wanted to ask that myself. But I have one more question. What vehicle sens are you using in-game and DPI on your mouse?

[@GhostGamingg]

20% in game - 1600 dpi :)

[@3lementa1]

GhostGaming Ok, thanks. Btw, love your videos. Keep up the good work! :)

[@GhostGamingg]

Thanks mate, I will :)

[@vivatus333]

thanks

[@putinstea]

I think the main problem I have is I can't keep track of where I am in relation to the horizon.

[@GhostGamingg]

you might want to turn jet camera roll off in that case.

[@putinstea]

@@GhostGamingg That would help if I was using he chase cam. I will experiment with that config.

[@fotoschopro1230]

turn vehicle fov up as high as you can, you dont need the same kind of aim like infantry

[@PotatoTheViking]

I'm asking this a little late but are there any more advanced maneuvers? I befriended an ace pilot and switches don't work well on him. We both have good turn speed, he just does some double secret move to bet behind me and he follow all of my switches even when I'm out of sight. Thanks in advance

[@TheNoobHuntingSquad]

No matter hard I try, I can't out turn a stealth jet when I am in a attack jet. I even use your technique when flying at 310-315 and this video for dogfighting. Can you give me an insite on how to beat these damn stealth jets?

[@GhostGamingg]

The only hope is to outwit them my friend :). The fact is that Stealth Jets have a tighter turning circle than Attack Jets (since they are supposed to be superior at air-to-air) so if he can successfully stay on your six he's going to eventually get you. I beat a lot of Stealth jet pilots because they either have no idea how to manage their speed properly or I lose the tail with a simple manoeuvre. One thing you can try is to sneak up on the Stealth Jet before he even knows you're there, pop your ECM as you get in range of his air radar and try to pop him while he's none the wiser :).

[@TheNoobHuntingSquad]

Thank you, I will give the ECM a try against stealth jets.

[@gmailnow283]

Please what is the switch

[@buggyman286]

Im using a hori tac 4 which is difficult in dogfights

[@tytansnyder8521]

that was cool

[@Kebabbug]

Ghost whats the best gun for the stealth jet and why ?

[@GhostGamingg]

I prefer the 20mm's over the others, I just find it easiest to use in 3rd person and am used to it. I think they're all pretty similar when it comes to time-to-kill.

[@stufurself9760]

Every time I spawn in a jet I get fucking lasered by anti aircraft or some tryhard in a attack plane with fucking level 136

[@CassioSuleiman]

anyone knows how to do that shaking tail on PS4? i just dont know how. ty!

[@quantumtech4190]

Cassio Salomao I play on Xbox one, and I find it hard to avoid enemies mainly because everyone has the same sensitivity, controller etc. What I've found is that if you are being closely followed: pop ECM, do half a loop and then try to slow down as much as possible (without falling out of the sky-accelerate slightly). From my experiences, I've found that a lot of pilots will fly straight past you. As soon as they pass you, accelerate and you will be on their tail.Only problem with this is that a lot of experienced pilots simply shoot you down as you are slowing down. Good luck.

[@quantumtech4190]

Cassio Salomao Also, try not to get jet rammed if the person tailing you isn't paying attention or is a rookie.

[@GAMEHUD1]

Hi ghosty

[@ThatMrAwesomeGamer]

No one plays air superiority on PS3 so usually when i fly it is between me and someone else and gets boring because one of us will just keep getting murdered :(

[@GhostGamingg]

James Conor Yeah, AS servers are pretty hard to find on PC too mate :(.

[@ThatMrAwesomeGamer]

Thanks Man, with the jets on ps3 i find that everyone is more maneuverable than me and make quicker turns. But this video helps with that but i still die xD. Great vid man.

[@GhostGamingg]

Thanks mate :)

[@funnythings5454]

i wish you were in 1st person so i can see your speed meter

[@demoncleanersmith9403]

You are well using J/P - J/S ! no way using mouse.

[@GhostGamingg]

I use mouse/keyboard man. I've tried a pad before and I sucked!

[@Err_Or-dw8wq]

I feel like no matter if I pull down or up on my analog stick my turning speed stays the same, I can't tell if I'm turning sharper or not

[@GhostGamingg]

Just concentrate on looking at your speed in 1st person, after a while you’ll get a feel for if you’re going too slow or not

[@davidhervas1695]

Ghost Do you use gamepad or mouse and keyboard to pilot??? Thanks

[@GhostGamingg]

Mouse and keyboard mate, check this video if you want to see some live action with a keyboard cam - Battlefield 4 - Jet Domination on Nansha Strike - Tips & Live Commentary!

[@cptalbator9547]

Hi ghost, I tried your tips and I would know if is it good to always see the radar?

[@GhostGamingg]

+Max Paris You want to be able to see the air radar as much as possible mate, yes :)

[@cptalbator9547]

Ghost Gaming - Gameplay & Tutorials Ok thank you :)

[@erikaicarman3184]

+GhostGaming i dont see aor radar in attack jet loadout... just aa and attack boat, what do i select?

[@garypaulie]

nice series :-)

[@GhostGamingg]

Ty mate :)

[@kindafatkindastrong5683]

I love how hard jet fighting is but i hate how weak jets are they are not the killing machines they where in bf3 and are so easily taken out by an aa

[@GhostGamingg]

Yeah the AA is pretty OP against the AJ, and especially so since they got nerfed.

[@kindafatkindastrong5683]

@@GhostGamingg the level of skill needed to be good at jets is so much higher than the level of skill needed for AA its almost offensive lol

[@kaminosurveilance551]

no shite m8! dat infinte switching loop looks like using 9000DPI sens...

[@GhostGamingg]

Kamino Surveilance or just hold down space bar :P

[@onlymans165]

300 is the perfect speed

[@moilolcraft]

yey.