the disturbing rabbithole of laceygames.com

[@ghosttundra]

would you like to have your own lacey plushie? let's make it happen here: www.makeship.com/petitions/lacey-plushie i have partnered up with makeship to make this idea a reality - but now it all depends on you! we have 10 days to get 200 people interested in the plushie! if the petition succeeds, lacey will be one step closer to becoming a real girl and jumping out of the computer to join you in your home - if you want this, it's time to pledge in the link above! thank you OBS: the official plushie design is the "uncorrupted" one. the second image is just for the spooks :)!

[@WeegeepieYT]

HOLY CRAP

[@WeegeepieYT]

I am absolutely promoting this aswell

[@MrSfilms94]

Lacey's Jingle was epic lol

[@PercyTheCrenasis]

YOU NOT DEAD?!?!?!​@@WeegeepieYT

[@slajmekpl83]

Finally I can eat Lacey so we can be together for eternity! Hooray!

[@moonjockeys]

the idea of a mortuary cosmetologist only finding out their friend is dead by suddenly seeing their corpse in the middle of work is unimaginably horrific

[@buggypc9753]

Oh i thought all the other clients were also jay secretly

[@spiralghosts]

for some reason I didn't catch that the clients were probably all dead despite the morgue picture and the "fix her" interjections, man Edit: also just now realized it literally says "morgue" in the background at 17:15

[@yuarentlucky]

My dumbass thought Lacey was just keeping her corpse for some reason in denial of Jay being dead. 💀

[@creo1582]

​@@yuarentluckysame I thought that too

[@moji_mojyo]

@@spiralghostswait what

[@juliwhite3397]

Someone probably pointed this out already, but Jay's identity as a tomboy (and her being proud of it, as it is stated in her character profile) plays a really interesting role in Lacey's grieving process. When the façade fades and all is left for Lacey to see is her friend's dead, rotting body she doesn't just point out her unwillingness to "stand still" and cooperate, but also her lack of femininity: if she acted like a "proper girl", being more meek and vain, her death could've been avoided (she fell to her death because she was too reckless on her skateboard, after all). Jay's death not only tears Lacey apart, but also reinforces her ideas about girlhood -- hence why she tries to "fix" Jay by putting makeup on her face, effectively disregarding the wishes of her dead friend by trying to save her from the worst sin a girl can ever commit: be hideous, and thus unlovable. This is probably my favorite episode yet, and I can't wait to see what this series has in store for the future. Incredible stuff!

[@NoName......]

Yeah that's a really good point.

[@dirtdirtdirtidirt]

There's also the forum posts around 10:50 from moms complaining that after seeing Jay, their daughters wanted to try skateboarding and act "like a boy". From a meta perspective Jay was literally killed off for being herself, not the role model parents wanted

[@xX_Berrie_Black_Xx]

I thought this exactly!!

[@pixelk8261]

I thought the same!!! Greatly worded

[@pixelk8261]

​@@dirtdirtdirtidirtyes which makes the reply from rocio "be careful what you wish for ;-)" to make even more sense as to why rocio killed her in such a brutal way. It was a big fuck you to the moms complaining

[@100_Spiders_in_a_Trenchcoat]

There’s something so eerie to me about the way the one woman at 15:51 has her eyes shut by the gloved hand then never opens her eyes again. That was the one that made me realize “Oh. These are corpses.” And looking back at the previous women, we never do see them open their eyes, do we?

[@ianmackaye27]

Oh yeah I realized when the morgue and maggot appeared

[@gwennorthcutt421]

i didnt even realize until the end, i thought it was like... scopophobia, a fear of being perceived, that kind of thing. lacey being anxious and not being able to handle clients that look back at her, but only on passive subjects. little did i know how passive they were...

[@cel9225]

honestly it doesnt even look like her eyes are opened, it rlly looks like they fell off from the top of the eyelids and held on by the skin on the side

[@АнастасияКиселёва-у1д]

Their eyes being closed is that one detail that i immedeately saw as strange (besides the curler, but that was just me not knowing what the curler is and thinking it's a razor meant for future horror (and yes, it was still meant for future horror, but it's not a razor) ). As a child i played a lot of girl games, including ones about makeup, and the eyes of the girls were ALWAYS open. I only remember one Barbie PC game where the characters close their eyes when you apply eyeshadow on them. But in every other makeup game characters kept their eyes open. So i immediately decided that this detail will be a part of the horror.

[@iamacoffe]

Working in the morgue

[@LanieMae]

The idea of the makeup salon actually being a post-mortem makeup clinic is actually genius

[@Randomheadphoneuser]

1,2K LIKES AJD NO REPLIES HOW DA HELL-

[@PauletteRumph]

Your routine could have something really interesting 🧐

[@ragcat3732]

The best I can decipher of the text at 26:26 is: She stepped into the empty room at the edge of the universe and calmly walked towards the single button on the wall, which, as she had been told by the gods above could delete the existence of anyone she disliked. she thought long and hard of all the ugliest souls she had ever known. She made her decision and her finger met the button without any ceremony. but looking down at her feet it was all red with blood . she stood in shock. The blood tainted her very being. She had thought deletion to be clean and instant without realizing that death’s the only deletion that exists and that there is no death without painful, unrelenting grief. And grief stared at her through mirrors forever, from the eyes of all she had ever thought to delete. It was a world catastrophe.

[@BlueMaskGuy]

I think it says "told by the gods"!

[@ragcat3732]

@@BlueMaskGuyTHANK YOU so much my dumbass thought it said goose ecove!! I fixed it now!!! That makes so much more sense!

[@BlueMaskGuy]

@@ragcat3732 dw my eyes didn’t even process the word "above" being in there lol,,, goose ecove is funny though

[@ghostgirl7089]

Wondering what this could mean in the grand scheme of things….it definitely feels like it may have relations to jay and grace’s co-author for the site, like if there was a character she ended up not liking, then she just deleted them, but in grusome ways, and although its just characters to her, there is almost like another world on the other side of the screen that is actually being effected by what the co-author does? Thats my theory currently

[@midnalazuli793]

@@ghostgirl7089 Jay was apparently criticized by parents who thought she was a bad influence on their daughters for being "not feminine" enough. If you take one look at Rocio, you might realize she's not exactly a "girly girl," so she may have also gotten comments like that throughout her life. Society often pushes girls to act and look a certain way, and perceive girls who don't meet these expectations as lesser. I believe what Rocio did to Jay was a reflection of how she felt society treated girls like her who just wanted to be themselves, and were met with scorn for it.

[@midnalazuli793]

One thing that always stood out to me about Rocio appearance-wise was how she has the exact same Raccoon-style braid as Jay does. This makes me believe that Rocio resonated with Jay a lot, since if you take one look at her, you'll realize right away that she isn't exactly a "girly girl." So when those entitled mothers complained that Jay was a bad influence on their daughters for being a tomboy, and demanded that she be removed from the website, Rocio took it very personally, because she probably got comments like that all her life about how women "should" and "shouldn't" act. Having said that, I believe the reason she killed Jay off in such a brutal fashion is because she wanted to teach those mothers a lesson on how she thought society treated girls like her who were belittled just for being themselves.

[@gatitodenieve_yt895]

Creo que Rocío no quería verse lo suficientemente femenina para evitar que otro hombre le hiciera los mismos abusos que su tío, algo así como una especie de escudo que ella misma creo debido a su mente tan traumada e inestable.

[@LaCabraAsada]

@@gatitodenieve_yt895 Pero, ¿entonces qué le dices a alguien, a otra mujer, que te dice que tu versión de feminidad, tu único escudo es algo malo? Creo que Rocio hizo los juegos de Lacy tan femeninos porque ella desea (o deseaba) ser así de femenina. Pero todo el abuso que sufrió le impide ser así. Porque para ella, la feminidad es "buena" y ella ha sufrido tanto que ahora es "mala" y siempre será mala. Del mismo modo que el mundo fantástico de Lacy es bueno y la vida real es mala. Pero incluso en un mundo tan perfecto, la realidad siempre logra colarse.

[@PsychedelicCharm]

But she didn't have to traumatize millions of young girls to make her point.

[@LaCabraAsada]

@@PsychedelicCharm "I have been hurt, so I will hurt others" -Skeleton cat

[@satanslittleprince]

@@PsychedelicCharm shut up

[@teacup.8531]

oh my god lacey doing jays dead bodys makeup was so powerful i could FEEL the grief and denial esp with the “it was a normal sunny day. and so was the next. and the next.”

[@midnalazuli793]

That part is definitely the most disturbing moment in the series for me. The physical pain that Jay went through, along with the mental pain that Lacey went through... and both culminates into Lacey just having a breakdown while trying to "beautify" her best friend's corpse... it's just so freaking traumatizing. Made even worse when you remember the only reason Jay was killed off was because of those nasty parents that thought her tomboyish nature was a bad influence on their daughters, so now you got Lacey, possibly thinking she can bring Jay back if she adds those feminine details that parents want... even though it's already too late.

[@gremmie8843]

especially because in the end song all the stages of grief show up in order in flashes of text 😭

[@Dimensional-Pizza]

I'm pretty sure Lacey's abusive uncle is prob the reason she works at the mortuary

[@kt_lavigne06]

real asf i felt like i lost a friend myself with that scene

[@lev1555]

​@@midnalazuli793 it's an intresting view, correlated with how when you lose a loved one so brutally, you often wonder if you could have done things differently. Reaching out to a sad friend, advising them against dangerous behaviours, driving them back home... Maybe that's especially true in girls and women, who are taught to police their appearance and behaviour to avoid danger, and that choosing the wrong outfit could be what lead them to demise

[@Goosepost_alt]

Charlie: damn, why Jay's Skating Game is so hard? Also Charlie: completes the entire game with unfair and laggy sections without a drop of sweat Truly the most gamer of all time

[@jitterbuggs]

charlie really locked tf in after that

[@midnalazuli793]

Charlie is for sure an undercover Jay's Skating Game pro gamer, she just doesn't want to showoff her skills too much, she's very humble.

[@clean...]

charlie best gamer

[@JunkstHat3605]

Charlie definitely went full gamer mode after dying 2 times

[@GuremaManaba]

More like jacksepticeye, Markiplier and Pewds dropped F-bombs when they got failed or got shocked

[@riv.h]

i love the detail at 10:51 that jay apparently said she'd "only be caught dead wearing makeup", considering what happens next

[@willsith9762]

That is FUCKED lmao. Excellent foreshadowing and morbidly hilarious

[@nitronerd55]

Welp the image of Jay's body getting smeared with makeup will never leave my mind. Great video!

[@18kazTM]

Jay's body look like gollum btw

[@Monchi_Bows]

GENLOSSER

[@midnalazuli793]

That part was so incredibly messed up and hard for me to sit through... like, Jay was always my favorite, even before she and Maisie were introduced, I really liked her design, and you can tell she's got a super fun-loving personality too, so seeing her in that state... and then having it drag out for like, five whole minutes... god, it was too much. Lacey's reaction made it worse too. You can tell she and Jay were REALLY close, and just how much her death had effected her.

[@GINGANTHROPY]

*̾ GENLOSS FAN. /vpos

[@nitronerd55]

@@GINGANTHROPY hii

[@whowhat957]

Around 10:50, if you look closely you can find a screenshot of complaints about Jay briefly pop up. They're mad about her being a tomboy. Hence partially explaining why she was removed/killed, as the creator says that it's "what they wanted," as well as Lacey's need to make her more feminine.

[@Kkiot]

i think thats also why it says "if you were just more feminine" in the part where she puts makeup on her

[@Solinaru]

personally, I don't think that Jay's death was due to "not being femme enough" but rather Lacey was trying to grasp at any straws in the grieving process. Jay loved that skateboarding was a "tomboy" thing. Jay died from a skateboarding accident. Lacey is trying to reconcile her pain with Jay's decision to be risky and not being a girl that enjoys "safe girly things".

[@yellowbirdie7182]

@@Solinaruthat may be true, however the og commentator is talking about the situation from the perspective of a player of Rocio’s games, not a witness of Lacey’s universe. Like, this happened to Rocio and so she decided to erase Jay. What happens afterwards and why is up for debate..

[@DownBeatClamp48]

SHE DIED FROM SOCIETY???? BRUH

[@whowhat957]

​@@Solinaru Yes, she didn't literally die from not wearing makeup, but I'm talking about Rocio's decision to delete her rather than her in-universe death. Each installment of this series has a greater theme regarding problems that women/girls often have to deal with (stalking, SA, just to name a few). In this case, the video is probably dealing with society's toxic expectations of femininity, and the fact that those complaints lead to Jay's deletion definitely portrays such a message. What I'm saying is, the reason that Lacey is so focused on feminizing her is meant to be deeper than just the fact that she died through a tomboyish sport. Of course it explores grief and loss as well (hence the stages of grief popping up in the chaotic sequence at the end), but that's more of something within the game's universe, albeit potentially based on Rocio's own experiences.

[@Astr01__]

so here's what i understood from the video Rocio had been getting complaints about Jay not being 'girly' enough, so as parents didn't like her she was killed off (which also explains the ending of her minigame where she dies). Lacey still can't accept her death, so she tries to fix her by doing her makeup to make her more femenine (which is also the reason she was deleted/killed off), however Lacey then realizes that theres really no way of going back to save her and that there's nothing she can do, after this, she composes a goodbye song for her where she explains how she wanted the people who made Jay get deleted to die ( "for everyone to bleed from their mouths and their eyes" "I wished for all beauty to die" ). However Grace does mention that Jay later appears in other games even after her death, so maybe they're Lacey's hallucinations due to her troubles with grieving, hinting that Lacey never really got over Jay's death

[@spotlightanimation6719]

By "appearing in other games" I think Grace meant that Jay's corpse was appearing in other games.

[@midnalazuli793]

What do you mean "nobody liked her?" Jay was a fan favorite among the girls who played on the site, and Charlie was even one of them. It was just their entitled parents who didn't like Jay because she was a tomboy.

[@Astr01__]

@@midnalazuli793 yeah I didn't quite catch that before, I did mean that the parents were the ones complaining about her tho

[@midnalazuli793]

@@Astr01__ Still, "nobody liked her" is a very weird way of putting it. As though none of the kids who played on Lacey Games would care if Jay was missing or not.

[@Astr01__]

@@midnalazuli793 I actually meant that the parents didn't like her, sorry about that!

[@rbwblz]

notice how the text says makeup looks to die for? looks like it foreshadowed lacey being a morgue makeup artist from the start

[@glimtty]

ermm what the OBJECT SHOW

[@shibastar7263]

And if you look are the emails where the parents are complaining about Jay they quote her saying "I'd only be caught dead wearing makeup"

[@Aidyn12al]

yeah thats true But thats a throey a Lacey theroy

[@Kel_luvr]

​​@@Aidyn12altheory

[@marrykozakura9352]

Also, the fact their eyes are closed for the entire time. I mean, when she puts makeup on their face, fair but why would you keep your eyes shut for a photo ? Probably because you aren't capable of opening your eyes anymore.....

[@KlDNEY_DAMAGE]

7:43 Girl skated so hard she got sent into oblivion

[@NoName......]

She did the skate 3 speed glitch irl and splated into a wall

[@midnalazuli793]

Jay just gets a little too excited sometimes.

[@chadgunner4403]

She *was* a skater girl

[@midnalazuli793]

@@chadgunner4403 LOL, it had always been a headcanon of mine that Jay is a huge Avril Lavigne fan.

[@matoscela]

LMFAOOOOO

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

An interesting point about Lacey's attitude towards femininity is how this series presents men. The _only_ male characters we see are monsters (the uncle and the stalker) or complete jerks like the pet shop/diner customers, who are still shown to be "scary" in their own way. The entire website is bright pink. Lacey's interests are all girly. She only seems happy (or at least peaceful) when she's alone with her hobbies or with her friends. Yeah, Lacey's Wardrobe mentioned going on a date with a cute guy, but imo that was supposed to be twisted foreshadowing about the stalker. She spends the whole game _dreading_ it. Lacey seems to fear men and masculinity due to the abuse she's suffered which could explain why she blames it for Jay's death. It could also be a defense mechanism she learned from her uncle, like, "if I'm pretty and quiet he'll be nicer to me" and she wants Jay to be more feminine so she's "safe."

[@lukiejr1740]

I'd give Lacey a hug

[@serverllegion6184]

Ouch,this one comment hurt in my soul The fact that laycey has to literally earn her pay by working with deceased people and make them presentable to their families in open casket funerals is causing damage to her psyche on high levels where she literally has to dissociate from her current situation to properly function on Her work place. Because she literally has nowhere else to turn to

[@SSOTI_esp]

Yall talking bout Lacey as if Rocio wasn't he irl counterpart (I mean, Rocio is also fictional but you get what I mean)

[@lukiejr1740]

@@SSOTI_esp it's heavily implied that Rocio actually is Lacey in a literal sense. Like her soul is inside of Lacey. Throw back to Lacey's diner where the m3th is selected, it has Rocio's name, not Lacey's.

[@SSOTI_esp]

@@lukiejr1740 Oh? I thought Lacey was just something Rocio made up to vent out her story in some way, I mean I know Rocio is dead but uh, damn

[@BakedBeans243]

So can we talk about the fact that Rocio killed off jay just because some entitled mothers thought she was a bad influence on their daughters because she was a tomboy Also good job on writing grace as someone who has suffered from mental health issues I have dealt with tons of people and even had a friend like grace who would just write me off as “Cuckoo” as she put it and disregard my mental health as me just being crazy. It was super uncomfortable for me to watch and the delivery was on point.

[@BakedBeans243]

Also if anyone needs to know what I’m talking about at around 10:50 there’s a blink and you’ll miss it screenshot of a list of complaints titled “concern over Laceygames character” and so on that are all mothers complaining about Jay being a bad influence because she’s not “girly” enough and how that’s not something little girls should see (which honestly is like Jesus fragile femininity much damn being a tomboy isn’t going to ruin your daughter and like if your kid is gender nonconforming then whatever??? Atleast they’re happy it’s like these mothers are so concerned with appearances they don’t want their daughters to be happy)

[@Medved725]

@@BakedBeans243 It's even more tragic that one of the complaints mentions Jay having once said "I wouldn't be caught dead wearing makeup", and that's exactly what happens to her in the end. Also, and maybe it's just me, but I was kinda unsettled at how young Jay's "voicelines" sounded (when she says "yeah", "let's go", "radical"). Assuming Jay is supposed to be a teenager, that voice sounded way too young for her I think. It reminds me that this genre of games, despite portraying adolescent life, isn't actually target at teenagers but are supposed to sell an image of adolescence to pre-teens.

[@BakedBeans243]

@@Medved725 I swear she showed the aftermath of Jay’s death in a makeup game ON PURPOSE just to fuck with those moms also that is true I remember playing games like these when I was like 7

[@leroyjenkins1249]

Same. Recently lost a "friend" over this, ironically. I had a CPTSD related breakdown and wrote an anonymous online post. She found it and first thought I was seriously trying to badmouth her. When I explained, she basically just went "oh, so you're crazy". The first part hence triggered me a lot, lmao. Like? Really? It's visible that girl/woman is having a serious mental breakdown. Implying to have serious trauma. Implying to potentially be at risk to herself and others. Don't call people like this "cuckoo". Implying "they're just broken, lol". In reality, this should be grounds to contact 1.) police (maybe) and 2.) mental health organizations.

[@BakedBeans243]

@@leroyjenkins1249 I agree also I’m sorry you had to go through something like that dude I hope your doing better now

[@smiley3176]

"im not here, this isnt happening" RADIOHEAD MENTION

[@SET_Studios]

OMG, I THOUGHT THE SAME THING HAHAHAHA

[@midnalazuli793]

LOL, I came across a South Park clip a few days ago that featured that band guest starring too, so that's funny it gets referenced now of all times.

[@glippy5831]

MY EXACT SAME THOUGHTS

[@t_opshelf]

REAL

[@Anonymous-73]

Rocio would be a Radiohead fan

[@Guggyland]

My headphones screamed "battery low" in he middle of the scene where lacey was putting makeup on jays dead body and now my heart hurts

[@Kain128]

The "eye gore" warning at the beginning might be the most unintentionally (or intentionally?) scariest part of this video. I kept tensing up whenever the makeup went near their eyes, expecting it to graphically stab them or gouge them out but nothing like that really happened, so I was just scaring myself.

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

Same here! I kept expecting to see a gruesomely ruptured orbit, so anytime anything that could possibly have caused such an injury came up, I tensed.

[@SoewoeMoloko]

yeah same, eye trauma/gore is one of the few things I can't stomach when it comes to horror imagery. The second I saw the hylics-esque hand appear on the screen, I breathed a sigh of relief

[@windws7137]

Same

[@xX_Berrie_Black_Xx]

SAAAAMEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I also thought Jay's eyes would pop out with the eyeliner.)

[@RobotPilots]

and then it did something INFINITELY WORSE

[@moodyrudy1774]

I really like how these innocuous flash game concepts take a more dark turn in these vids. A dress up game turns into a stalking situation. A cooking game turns into a struggle to keep the business afloat. A pet grooming game turns into animal cruelty. A skating game turns into a fatal accident. A makeup game turns out to be Lacey being a mortuary cosmetologist. I adore this series 🥰

[@midnalazuli793]

It really makes you wonder what Rocio implemented into the OTHER games on the site.

[@Random_Tecro]

I like the themes but it’s something off about the horror that just makes it a bit tacky imo. I think it’s the overuse of the words and themes, but other than that I like the thought of it.

[@philardo]

I love how novel of a concept it is! I don't think anyone thought of this kind of horror before and its super well done

[@ChillPatrick]

I think with maisie a horoscope game will turn into a cult victim and with love meter a kissing game(at least its what i think it is) will turn into an abusive relationship story(theres another lost flash game about it)

[@JunkstHat3605]

Ikr♥️

[@neophytte]

the part with jays dead body gives off so much emotions and had me in a chokehold.. the contrast between jays tomboy style and laceys wish for her to become more feminine to avoid death literally is such a powerful metaphor (???)

[@midnalazuli793]

Sorry for asking, but how does being more feminine make Jay avoid death in this instance?

[@neophytte]

@@midnalazuli793 in the video i believe there was a screenshot of an email that flashed by that came from a parent complaining about jay's tomboy-ishness, so lacey thought that if jay was more feminine then she wouldn't have gotten deleted/killed

[@midnalazuli793]

@@neophytte Ah, I see what you mean. It’s just, I don’t think Lacey is the kind of friend who’d want for Jay to be something she isn’t. She’d never force her to be feminine if she didn’t want to be.

[@neophytte]

@@midnalazuli793 that's definitely true! i feel like lacey only did it so that jay would live, but otherwise she'd never do the same thing

[@ansel6303]

@@midnalazuli793 While Lacey herself wouldnt do that as a person, lots of times girls are pressured to be feminine to fit in with society. Girls who dont adhere to those roles (and boys as well, but this series is specifically about the horrors of girlhood) are shunned and even hurt for it. From Lacey who has been pushed into this role of stereotypical girlhood as her safety net she believes that if Jay had just gone along with how everyone else was she wouldnt have died. While this is a dramatized version of it this is a lot like how most women i know do have internalized misogyny, including myself in the past. Its safer and more acceptable to adhere to certain roles and expectations since people who step out of the box end up like this (again, generally an exaggerated scenario). So its less that Lacey wanted her friend to be more feminine but moreso that Lacey has been instilled with the belief pushed on so many girls that its safer for them to adhere to whats expected of them. Its a projection of Laceys own fears when it comes to not being feminine or beautiful, as vanity is something instilled into girls from such a young age and I know so many people who even subconciously have the mindset that its not worth living if youre not beautiful.

[@midnalazuli793]

The goodbye song at the end is especially heart-breaking, because you can really feel how a huge part of Lacey's life is missing without Jay, and it can never be replaced. Rocio REALLY wanted to make those parents see how their comments impacted the world she created, and I imagine it hit especially hard for their daughters who played Lacey games and loved Jay, and were probably traumatized when they saw her killed off in Jay's Skating Game, with her corpse subsequently appearing in future Lacey games.

[@robloxcool88]

To be fair, what in the Lacey Games *wasn't* traumatizing? That's basically the whole shtick of the series.

[@midnalazuli793]

@@robloxcool88 Yeah, but it's never gotten to THIS level before. Lacey's reaction to Jay's corpse was easily the most distraught we've ever see her, and considering her trauma up to this point, that's saying a lot, and it also doesn't help that the makeup scene is so much longer and more dragged out than previous scenes. You're really forced to just sit back and take in every second of shock and horror while watching Lacey cry and weep.

[@CowboyLuigi]

I still wonder what happened to Jay. Based on the game and the comments Lacey said to Jay's dead body about "if you were more feminine..." Either Jay died in a severe car accident or got assaulted by some guys. Her bent jaw and that dislodged eye makes it look that she had some severe blunt trauma.

[@midnalazuli793]

@@CowboyLuigi …What are you talking about? We literally saw what happened to Jay. She skateboarded off of a series of buildings into a sea of spikes.

[@tomasaurio45]

The entire makeup session with no music and only the whimpers of Lacey goes above and beyond simple horror and becomes something extremely sad to see, you stop feeling scared and the section goes on and on until it stops feeling scary and you just feel sad towards the girl who lost her friend and doesn't know what to do to cope with it, Love you Ghosttundra for explorign this kind of tragic horror, you are amazing.

[@midnalazuli793]

I agree, what made that scene so unnerving for me was how long it dragged on for. The longer it lasts, the more uncomfortable and distressed you get. And seeing Lacey's reaction just makes it so much worse.

[@bashartz]

It's the fact they turned fear into distress and discomfort to me. They could've easily just jumpscare us right then and there, but nah. It kept dragging on. And on. And on. And the more you wanna look away, the more you crave watching it all unfold. Not because you're scared, because of how uncomfortable yet saddened you are for the characters.

[@willsith9762]

It's genuinely kind of upsetting how Rocio's old friend is so dismissive of her behavior. "She was such a weirdo, she was cuckoo" she was a deeply traumatized person that didn't know how to deal with it, and the second her trauma started to resurface, her "friend" abandoned her. And that's what's continued her downward spiral

[@tylerroads9209]

14:48 says "vanity doesn't die! vanity doesn't die! you are not excused from vanity yet! you are not excused from vanity yet! you still can't be looking bad now! you still can't be looking bad now! can you fix can you fix can you fix" over pictures of a morgue and a blurred out picture of something cutting off the rest of the "can you fix" lines so they can't be read if there is more

[@a.h.9362]

holy fuck that’s depressing

[@aslhanfeyzakurt]

that blurry picture looks like a skull to me idk

[@ragcat3732]

Perhaps the blurred photo is the remains of jay? Either way thanks for transcribing!

[@gabgab30]

I think it's "(I) can fix you"

[@tylerroads9209]

@@ragcat3732 Np!! :] And that's my thought too, but I can't be sure enough to confidently put it in my reply

[@snakegarden4289]

I think I'm going nuts, but please let me cook. Lacey has always had these two hairclips in hair that resemble the roman number twelve (XII). This same number can also be seen from a version of Lacey in 16:14, where one of her hairclips a X shape, and the other side is two II shapes. So, I decided "Hmm that look familiar, I wonder what tarot card this is?" and it turns out that 12th card is the Hanged man. So as bad as it is for a character who has died the last three videos, the meanings behind it are "Surrender, Letting go and Self-sacrifice". I know that wasn't the first person to find out, just wanted to show what I found.

[@invertez3483]

WOAH

[@AdrianGuzmanOfficial]

You not only cooked, you made a 5-stars Dish with this one

[@rosibel-RBFC]

Man is that interesting :O Thank you for finding out! Even if its just a theory its so cool!!

[@carysgoymerac]

thats actually so smart I would never have thought of that :0

[@mihaivergelea26]

im taking away your cooking license and promoting you to master chef. keep cooking king

[@maryk6963]

the decomposing jay at 21:10 is so fran bow/sally face esque

[@Ann-lm6iy]

girl would do ANYTHING but go to therapy to cope with loss 💀💀💀

[@midnalazuli793]

Are you talking about Rocio?

[@voidvoidvoidvoidvoidvoidvoid00]

Maybe she was afraid of therapy? Grace treated her like she was some freak, so maybe Rocio thought a therapist would feel the way

[@midnalazuli793]

@@voidvoidvoidvoidvoidvoidvoid00 Possibly. Man, Grace really was just a terrible friend to Rocio.

[@averyspecificdragon8780]

@@midnalazuli793 fr the entire time she was talking I just kept thinking "geez no wonder Rocio disappeared if all she had was YOU to talk to". like no attempts to even try and empathize with what her friend was going through.

[@Grxblrg5757]

I mean, that's what a lot of the games have been about. It seems so simple to just serve the food in under 3 minutes, in Lacey's Petshop, the key is in the cage she is locked in. But for whatever reason she cannot do these things. Is she to blame? I don't believe whatever real-world equivalent to Jay actually died, I think she left after parents complained that Jay, the representation of her on the website, wasn't appropriate for a kid's game, likely to her being a skater and liking masculine things. I think Lacey saying that Jay needs "fixing" or to be "more feminine" over her corpse represents this pretty well. Jay was taken away from Lacey to reasons beyond her control, and so she tries to bring her back by "fixing" her problems, making her body "beautiful", though she is long gone, she was killed when her self was taken, when she wasn't allowed to be herself. And so, Rocio, represented in game as Lacey, shows the visitors to the site the "real girls' games", the reality of what happened.

[@viviansventures]

This series really means a lot to me as a grooming and CSA survivor who has OCD and constant awful thoughts about what happened and in general a shattered mind constantly feeling dirty and like I'm seeing bugs scurrying out the corner of my eye or on my body (or freaking out when I see one that's actually real due to not expecting it, making all of the hallucinations worse for some time since they all "have just as much of a chance to be real") People never talk about it and survivors almost never get to tell stories about it in Hollywood or other big productions, so seeing a small heartfelt indie project by a girl who similarly went through too much too early resonated with me and made me keep on going with my art projects I want to make despite many life hurdles, especially with it wholeheartedly embracing the 'cringy' deviantart anime artstyle from 20 years ago (that wasn't actually that bad and was often just maligned for being something young girls were into) to gutwrenching effect once you get the implication the story is hinting to with what's up with her

[@matoscela]

yeah, this series touched me in a way no art did in a while, i love it with all my heart

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

I'm with you about the art. The visual style everything is drawn in is perfect for this story.

[@CryingNonsense]

I'm sorry for what you're going through, I support you 💚

[@FlowerPatchH]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who resonates a bit with this series and such, I'm going to be completely honest I genuinely can't even get through the dress up one entirely for similar reasons but this series really does sit with me and has since I found the first episode, a bit triggering at times but I still genuinely have found myself really liking the series

[@viviansventures]

Happy to hear that it resonated with a lot of other survivors, at least :') Thanks for all the support and I hope you care about yourselves this much too, do something nice for yourself today.

[@Emdez]

This series really speaks to me. I find a lot of comfort in weird, surreal, and strange media, often containing some kind of horror or childhood trauma. I didn’t really understand why until I watched the pet shop video when it came out. My trauma isn’t the same as Lacey’s, I wasn’t SA’d, but I was exposed to adult and NSFW content as early as 9 years old, and met hung out with kids older than me (like, pre-teen to 15 or so) online while I was 10. So many hateful things. I didn’t get out of toxic spaces until I was 14. I always thought of the things I experienced as silly or not serious because they happened through youtube, minecraft, and minecraft-related apps. But yeah. Lacey’s flash games made me realize that maybe I was actually pretty damaged by the things I went through. Thank you for making something that helped me realize that.

[@sp2blueprint]

hope you're doing well darling

[@fleurixrus]

oh real I remember when my bsf showed me nrop when I was like 6 lmao

[@gary7355]

Woah! You just made me realize that I was impacted by that as well. I always connect with traumatized characters in media and I love media that explores those concepts but I was always like "why am I like this? I had a perfectly normal childhood" uhhhh maybe because of all the gore and sexual stuff I was exposed to and addicted to when I was 8-9???? Took me a decade to realize that, dang

[@perofan1424]

"Is she gonna get 'Cream from Sally.exe'd?" *sees the spikes* "NONNO NO IT WAS A JOK---"

[@borby4584]

I thought the exact same thing ngl. The moment I saw the speed ups, I had a feeling

[@archiegaming670]

THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT

[@djmaple5940]

Woah internet thought jinx

[@Alex_Lopes123]

I thought I was the only one who noticed, I'm still wondering if that was a reference

[@CDJAM-webm]

eeerrmm ackshually its chinelin sonic 🤓

[@namelessguitarist72]

"50+ free awesome girl games!!" Oh my god I would love 50 videos lmao. These are amazing ghosttundra

[@notjack_official1153]

25:29 "dead girls dont cry" also i spotted some photos of (possibly) Rocio tying herself to a computer parts, such as motherboard, the wires etc. like Grace has mentioned, Rocio has gone nuts and didnt appear anywhere. apparently, Roci has been busy with this weird plan that had a point with escaping from reality she's in (according to that one "deletion" text in a video) by drawing her characters and "plugging" her soul in.

[@ghosttamelia]

yeah, i have these photos too, it's like Rocio/ghosttundra has been being lacey all this time

[@ghosttamelia]

0:44 it have some connection with this scene of the video. Rocio is Lacey

[@NoName......]

Oh god please don't tell me this is going in a "LACY IS ACTUALLY A GHOST ALL ALONG" I'm so sick of that trope

[@gusmon6898]

I believe this part of her plan to try to escape reality, though something didn’t go well now trapping her in an endless cycle of these games only to force her back to reality of what happened to her tho I don’t know how the ending of dress up fits

[@himawanadinatama1674]

Honestly lacey would be fine as a standalone character which some rando just create her and the game for fun and silly little cute-transforming-to-horror shenanigans Adding her creator as a "cuckoo" which she created lacey and the game for trauma dumping and her dark desire is really break the immerse for me

[@hartleyscoat]

Rocio seemingly inserting Jay into every game on the website is such a surreal concept. She did it completely to spite the parents that complained about Jay as a character. She likely didn’t think of the repercussions putting a dead girl in an otherwise seemingly innocent game, traumatising a bunch of children in the process.

[@dum..]

Rocio is likely the girl on this account

[@PsychedelicCharm]

Like another commenter said, Rocio had been hurt so she'll hurt others.

[@empressvanilla2464]

Is there any proof that these games actually existed back then?. while I don't believe that they were made last year, it feels this series is just made up to look like one those analogue horrors that are so popular nowadays.

[@PsychedelicCharm]

@@empressvanilla2464 That's because it is made up. Tundra started the series back in 2022, I think. I just recently got into the series, and so far, I like where this is going. Now I'm wondering what inspired them to make the series.

[@dum..]

@@empressvanilla2464 hush don't break the immersion goddamnir

[@leroyjenkins1249]

10:50 Complaint of a mother about Jay "I can definitely agree that a character that says 'I'd only be CAUGHT DEAD wearing makeup'..." -> guess that's the inspiration for the Makeup Game, lol

[@gremlinzon3]

I really like the sort of girlsgogaming themeing with the website featuring a trio of girls. It honestly makes me nostalgic for the og games where you'd dress em up or decorate a house and put lil versions of them posed in the house. I can tell alot of thought and care is put into the aesthetic. Always look forward to more!

[@aira_riri]

this wasn't what i expected honestly, but i'm definitely not disappointed. That ending hit me hard as brick

[@bongo7378]

wait as in end end?! D:

[@ZackPacklol]

How you'd comment that ten days ago, it just released today!

[@wobbler-dw9fi]

I just realized what the fuck

[@midnalazuli793]

It more or less met my expectations. It was incredibly hard to sit through, especially as a Jay fan, but I still admire the amount of effort that went into making it.

[@bongo7378]

@@ZackPacklol wait yeah what?

[@h444teligament]

I absolutely absolutely love the underlying criticism here of the idea of makeup in general - smearing it on dead bodies in the mortuary to make them "pretty". Putting it on yourself to mask grief if it's ugly. The flashing "smile for me girl" and "vanity doesn't die" and "if only you wore some makeup" and the fact that jay disregarding it was enough for a poster to say she's not a role model appropriate for little girls - enforcing the idea that makeup is praxis for little girls! The fact that beauty seemsto come above all else, even personality, even grief, even death. I love the commentary made here.

[@Elli-kc2yh]

While the commentary you made is correct (girls being expected to wear makeup when they dont want to is bad and using makeup to cover up emotions is unhealthy) imma play devils advocate for a sec. They basically have to put makeup on most dead bodies. Not makeup like how lacey did it (more girly) but to make the person look less...dead. If a person has an open casket funeral, makeup is pretty much a requirement bc decomposing bodies, even just a few days after death, look hella creepy. Its better for the funeral attendees to see their friend/family member looking more asleep than dead for the last time.

[@djmaple5940]

🎶 And then there's Jay! She's *dead* 🎶

[@michaelvuong9302]

HUH! 🎶La-cey!🎶 🎶Jay is dead!🎶 🎶La-cey!🎶 🎶Now the song is over!🎶

[@irjectjade]

@@michaelvuong9302 i love this sm oml

[@GuremaManaba]

Song References: Chilvary is Dead 🎵 And they say (they say)...Chilvary is dead (dead, dead)🎵

[@GuremaManaba]

🎵And then there's Jay(there's Jay)...Jay is dead (dead ,dead)🎵

[@SonicTopaz]

@@GuremaManabaBro has never heard of peak N64 game “Donkey Kong 64” 😂😂😂

[@random_scenegirl]

EVERYONE SIGN FOR THE LACEY PLUSH NOWWWWW

[@Yourlocalwordrobe]

WE NEED LACEY PLUSH (god i see things people will do to her, the bad and the goods)

[@midnalazuli793]

You don't have to tell me twice, lol.

[@cottonuwu3167]

No…. I can already see what people would do to that plushie

[@midnalazuli793]

@@cottonuwu3167 Please, I do NOT need that image in my head.

[@cottonuwu3167]

@@midnalazuli793 jar

[@TheBlanketGhost]

I don't know what's more terrifying. The whole mortuary artist flash game, or the fact Carmen is so dismissive and cruel of Rocio, who was her supposed 'friend'

[@kidferocious]

Don’t you mean Grace? And I feel like she would be facing criminal charges if she acted that way towards Rocio nowadays.

[@randomlittleidot]

13:26 thank you hans from spongebob for fixing this woman's face. you have done an invaluable service to this world.

[@Se_bizzard]

XD

[@angelabryant9766]

Dear God now I can't unsee it.

[@bobnrobplush]

That’s icespice

[@xX_Berrie_Black_Xx]

W PFP.

[@xX_Berrie_Black_Xx]

I thought, "Jack Stauber?????"

[@Bern_Stein]

I'm afraid to even imagine what will be in "Maisie's horoscope"...

[@midnalazuli793]

I feel like if anything, Maisie's First Day of School will be the next game to get its own episode, seeing as how it came out in 2009, the same year as the Jay's Skating Game and Lacey's Makeup Parlor, and with every episode, the game featured is progressively more recent.

[@monster-sc2bh]

​@@midnalazuli793 ok, crazy prediction right here, if what you say it's right, and we take that this series tries to represent what being a woman is, maybe just maybe, the next episode will be about how women change their personality based on their environment, because if you had female friends, you know how much they change depending on the person's around them, if you tell them they look like a man, they will try to be more feminine, and all of that until, there is nothing but a husk of a once little girl who thinked that the world was hers. Maybe it'll be some twisted shi, like she slowly becomes an amalgamation of things, taking from all the traumas rocio apparently has, maybe it would be an amalgamation of pig legs, dog noses, shit tons of makeup, chains etc, making you no longer recognize that sweet little girl that you met when school started

[@kidferocious]

How about Lacey’s Love Tester? I’ve got the feeling the Stalker will return in that.

[@Alantheguy2024]

​@@kidferocious We cant forget about lacey's slacking

[@saki255]

Timestamp for "a goodbye song" 24:40 because I love it so much

[@camc4mi]

Real

[@wygolvillage2637]

The shift in framing from makeup parlor to morgue is really clever! I also liked seeing platformer/runner games and stuff featured since that's what I have more nostalgia for (I was never all that into dressup games). I think this series has hit a good stride with this episode, nice work!

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

I hope this series does something with the "click and hold to commit mischief while the other characters aren't looking" genre bc that's another very nostalgic one 😂

[@wygolvillage2637]

​@@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead YESSS. Also it would be cool to see someone do a series about one of those old flash-based kid's MMOs

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

@@wygolvillage2637 ooh yeah! MMOs have loads of digital horror potential, I'm surprised that hasn't already been done.

[@cherubiesan]

It seems that Lacey's lore is expanding, first with the uncle and now with one of her friends :0 I'm excited to see more things happen. Great job as always✨

[@midnalazuli793]

Same, I'm fully hooked onto the series after seeing this episode.

[@musicstar8418]

I wonder what will happen to lacey's other friend

[@midnalazuli793]

@@musicstar8418 I highly doubt Maisie will be killed off in the same way that Jay was, because if that was the case, I think Grace would've said something about it in THIS episode.

[@musicstar8418]

@midnalazuli793 just was thinking

[@MoonShineNight78]

I didn't understand at first that why Lacey vomits is not only because of the pressure and stress, it's because a lot of maggots started to come out from Jay's Eyes... Also, the symbolisms, in both makeup scenes with Jay, Lacey just uses pink, pink liner, pink eyeshadow, pink lipstick (more like pinkish red) because it's worldwide known that Pink represents Feminity... And I don't know if I'm just theorysing too much, But I think Grace likes Maisie because it was meant to be based after her, with that puffy hair colored pink (because Grace, If I remember correctly, has reddish hair, so to make it more appealing and cute, they made it Pink), and I don't know if Rocío originaly made Jay to look like her, because if you see closely, Rocío has a stripped hairlock and by how she's dressing in the photo, she looked like she wears a lot of "Tomboy'sh" clothing, so maybe Jay was based off from her, so it makes more horrible that she killed her because of the parents saying she's a bad influence, she took it too personal (and also was a stupid thing for the parents to get mad at) and when that happend, she started to tell a bit of her story through Lacey, because the character that represented her the most, was killed

[@midnalazuli793]

That's an interesting theory.

[@Ticci_Toby-x2h]

Yeah I would have been sick too if I was in Lacey's place

[@NutSaxs]

So the first game was Lacey getting stalked and killed, second being her kitchen going downhill because of poor hygiene due to abuse, third being pet shop for the same reason and now she has to psych herself up because she has to do makeup for her dead friend. Poor girl can’t even get a proper therapy,neat.

[@kidferocious]

Yeah, things escalate so quickly in these videos. Lacey is one of the MANY characters in fiction who need a hug.

[@T33nW33b]

Theory: While Jay was skateboarding on the buildings she accidentally fell to her death. After hearing of the death of her friend Lacey did not want to accept it so she went to the morgue to find Skater Jay and put makeup on her to make it feel like she was still alive however Jay's body was starting to decay. leading to Lacey starting face the reality that her friend is gone. So she then wrote a goodbye song in memory for Jay. Edit: I heard it there was more too it than that, Jay's character was receiving backlash from parents due to thinking that her tomboyish behavior was a bad influence on girls so the creator of the Lacey games got rid of Jay by killing her off in a disturbing way in the game to get back at the parents and Lacey thought if she made Jay look more feminine then she could be brought back.

[@Kokouhaia]

All the girls in the makeup game were dead, weren't they. Man

[@T33nW33b]

@@Kokouhaia possibly or they were just part of Lacey's imagination.

[@NoName......]

What kind of skateboarding accident does THIS 19:58 to a person?!

[@MONO-97]

@@Kokouhaiaholy shit that’s why their faces were decaying and maggots were appearing on the body

[@ima_cat_meow]

yeah, thats what happens when a teenager who doesn't have much experience in the funeral industry (specifically mourtary cosmology) doesn't get a good corpse to work on since they haven't been embalmed properly or preserved thus leading to jay looking like off brand dobby

[@JakAttack12345]

Please never stop making things. You are endlessly creative, you have made a series that explores the horror of femininity so well, and you did it using flash games from the 2000's as a central thematic pillar. If Laceygames had been a one-off, or even just a few videos, it would have already been great, but the way you developed the series is spectacular. You don't *owe* an audience anything, but it would be a damn shame if you didn't continue. I want to see Lacey's story, I want to see her achieve something of a happy ending (even if I know it will never be so simple), I want to see more of your horrifying imagery, I wanna see more art from the era, I want to know why Grace doesn't seem to care at all about Lacey and keeps brushing aside her obvious issues, I want so much more. And if you never make anything again, for whatever reason, then thank you for what you've added to the web horror scene. If there were a thousand laceygames ripoffs, I would welcome it with open arms. Realy good stuff, liked and subscribed.

[@midnalazuli793]

I really think it be a disservice if Lacey had a happy ending, cause that's not really what the series is about.

[@facundoyegros6035]

This will be a great idea for a Metagame were you can play all Laceys game and search in game files or in other web pages for information about the creators, other path to unlock lore, etc, loving this serie! (sorry 4 my bad english)

[@yuarentlucky]

Ooh, a game compilation on steam of all of Lacey's games that looks like a fake website would be cool. :o

[@oncreativemode5486]

3:43 Lacey being described as "determined and had lots of friends" makes me :( It implies that she's eager to meet new people but she couldn't keep her friendships because of how erratic her behavior is. All she has left is Grace and (maybe idk if she's only a friend of a friend) Charlie, and even then, i think they're distancing themselves from her... It's such a shame, because by the look of her website, it seems like she worked extremely hard on it along with her buddies. Also the description of her being an airhead reminded me of the scene from the Lacey's Petshop video where she described her vulnerable moment as her being "edgy". Time and time again she tries so hard to feel like a normal, average, cute girl, but ultimately breaks down because she can't take everything anymore. It's a small but significant detail that hits just a little hard for me honestly

[@midnalazuli793]

Charlie isn't a friend of Rocio's. Charlie was a Lacey fan as a kid who played all these games and had only recently learned about the dark hidden secrets in them, so she decided to write a thesis about them.

[@oncreativemode5486]

​@@midnalazuli793 thanks for the info!

[@kt_lavigne06]

i totally get ur points, and unfortunatly... me fr :(

[@fyberfox]

I got my Lacey plushie in the mail today! I would just like to say that this series really spoke to me and has become a comfort for me funny enough. I feel seen by this art and I can’t wait to see more in the future! Me and Lacey are going to go on so many adventures together and I’ll make sure to give her lots of love. 💕

[@Opalized_Emmett]

3:09 LOOK THEY'RE DOING THE ONE SIDED CRUSH THING WITH THEIR HANDS

[@starlex3021]

Ok so i know that just feels like a memey thing done for the bit, but since you pointed it out... i'm starting to hatch a theory, here... So we all know its clear Grace hates Rocio's guts, right? Like she seems so dismissive and willing to separate herself from her "friend", and not even back when they were still friends did she seem to actually care much abt her (she just let her pull her hair and scream and just... watched??). She calls her weird and a freak and stuff, and it feels very... personal. I'm starting to think maybe Rocio had a crush on her, or was just a lesbian or smthn not even relating to Grace, and Grace Did Not Like That and that's where she started to pull away from Rocio. Now i'm not saying Grace is solely responsible for Rocio's trauma we see through Lacey, but... it doesn't look like she helped at all either :/

[@bongo7378]

@@starlex3021 it probably was just another horrible event for her that piled up, especially during the point and click game section we can see a lot of references to HEAVY childhood abuse

[@midnalazuli793]

It was kind of comical and out of place honestly. Like... Grace just rips into CharChar about how she lied to her... only to fall for this shit again, under the belief it's her "cousin's thesis?" LOL. You know what they say, "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."

[@midnalazuli793]

@@starlex3021 That is a plausible theory. And it might explain why Rocio is so uncomfortable around Rocio, if her infatuation was to an obsessive extent... like with Lacey and her stalker.

[@Cozm1k]

@@midnalazuli793Tbh Rocio does seem uncomfortable around Rocio…🤔

[@feelingmachine]

i know it's probably not your intentions but i can't help but just feel awful for rocio. whatever series of events led her to make any of these games, whatever it was supposed to represent burning in her mind over and over again. wherever she went after 2010 -- to say being seven feet under is more than likely is fucking awful, but i can only hope rocio's fine now. this is a great episode to one of the best serieses of digital horror i've ever been able to watch online. the games all feel like things i could've made if i had the bravery to make what i really wanted, and get what i really felt out to the world, and if anyone would understand it wasn't meant for consumption. it's a little more than a girl's game to the creators. consider my two and then thirty dollars to make lacey a real, lovely, hopefully not suffering anymore girl your's and makeship's to have.

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

I'm concerned about Rocio, too. Throughout the video, at the parts where Grace said things like "she was just crazy!" or admitted that she didn't ask why Rocio did any of the things she did, I'd just think, "You said she would go around screaming, and we all know she made flash games about abuse from the victim's perspective, and she generally acted like a very disturbed woman, and you never asked why?!? You never even tried? What on earth is wrong with you?" I suppose I have my answer. Like I said in my own comment, Grace seems dumber than a ton of rocks.

[@saltypineapple8371]

unfortunately ive met the type of people like grace in my life. theyre often very oblivious of other people, esp with themselves as well. its also bc they dont wanna bother helping someone or even giving a bit of sympathy or comfort bc its too much trouble. there are worser fates than death. i feel truly awful for rosio and i only hope she gets a happy ending (maybe one where she passes away peacefully? or.. getting some form of therapy and working towards recovering from extreme trauma)

[@faerae2]

grace was such a terrible friend to rocio omg imagine being rocio and that asshole being your only "friend" 💀 no wonder she went missing bro

[@Rubelyte]

26 minutes of masterpiece! I remember how long ago I accidentally came across a video of Lacey’s games, I watched it but didn’t finish it and didn’t pay any attention to it. then after a while I remembered that there was such a video and decided to watch it. I liked it and decided to study these videos in more detail. Now I'm part of this wonderful fandom and I'm very happy about it!

[@calyxman]

my sister played the one about the skater girl and she cried so hard she threw up and we werent allowed on the family computer for a few years after that. brought up childhood memories I forgot I had, good video!

[@MrSfilms94]

@@nitronerd55 Shut up lol

[@nitronerd55]

@@MrSfilms94 fine. Sorry. I'm deleting my comments. Geez..

[@calyxman]

@@nitronerd55 I'm pretty sure it's real there's even still the stain on our carpet lol

[@wonderlandqueen6369]

Not a single universal experience it seems… only my lil sis played the makeup game when the site was up and got traumatised. I had to sleep in her room to calm her a little amount because she just refused to close her eyes???? If I only knew what these games actually were like;the exterior looked so cutesy neither our parents nor me bothered to check

[@nitronerd55]

@@calyxman ok whatever...

[@TheShadowOfInnocence]

If you pause the frame at 8:59 really quickly, you can see jay’s face looking terrified at the spikes. I love the detail.

[@ColeBraden-pp4oh]

I was ones made fun of for watching a “stupid play through of a girly flash game” I was watching Lacey’s wardrobe and I showed the rest of the video to the guy and he was horrified. Almost a year later we watch every episode together and he’s been my best friend since.

[@laalaaingmodorwhatever]

well that's one way to make friends

[@lambda-m1676]

Bro scared the homophobia out of him

[@kidferocious]

@@lambda-m1676Or he scared the toxic masculinity out of him.

[@MirianKellySerradaCunha]

aww,that's weird but nice at the same time lol

[@FroggiePebbles]

I wanted to say that I recognized a very specific fear I didn't realize I wanted to share with others in this video. From 16-19 I did work in a family owned funeral home. Particularly working with body retrieval and aiding in preparation of the body for the funeral home. I did this in a tiny county for long enough to learn this was what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. But I experienced a similar visceral world shattering horror, when a kid that I graduated with, who I was friends with, was on my prep table. It was how I found out he died. And I had to pretend that it was normal. It was the first death I handled of someone in my age range. But I'm glad I got the experience. The years I spent there solidified my love for the work and I intend to be a mortician for the rest of my life.

[@jilldies]

kel pfp :0

[@Ghostie-Tempura]

Man, that must've been so heavy to have handled at first. I hope you're doing well yourself. If I may ask, how's the job been as of late? :00

[@dariusmcfarter6105]

this is so genius from the interview to the website and the make-up salon being a post mortem clinic it’s all so genius and thought out. this is def one of my fav yt series i’ve seen in a while

[@karenramey2408]

I think I can understand at least a little of what happened near the end, after Jay died while riding her skateboard. Lacey was so heartbroken after her friend's death, she tried to fix her by putting makeup on her dead body. And the last screen shot is Macy comforting Lacey after their friend Jay's death. I have to say I think it is not only disgusting and disturbing, but also sad too. Because Lacey lost one of her closet and dearest friends and was so deeply in denial over her death that she tried to fix her with the only thing she could think of which fixes her when she feels really down and ugly. By putting make up on.

[@midnalazuli793]

There's a few subliminal images that when paused at the right time, reveal the reason for Jay's death. Parents complained that Jay was a bad influence in their daughters because she wasn't "feminine" enough. I believe this is why Lacey is seen trying to put makeup on her corpse during the makeup parlor segment, because during her mental breakdown, she convinces herself that she can bring Jay back if she makes her appear "more feminine." It is really gut-wrenching to watch, since you really get a feel for just how close Lacey and Jay were, and how deeply Lacey had been impacted by her death, which is somethin I think Rocio really wanted to convey with those parents who saw Jay as being problematic for something as silly as being a tomboy.

[@karenramey2408]

@@midnalazuli793 I didn't think of it like that, but I can see your point. And yes it is heartbreaking to see how upset Lacey was after Jay died. If I remember correctly, I think it was stated that Jay and Massie was Lacey's best friends.

[@midnalazuli793]

@@karenramey2408 Yeah, Maisie and Jay were Lacey's closest friends. I get the feeling Lacey may have even saw Jay as like an older sister figure or something, because she reacts to her death like she had lost a family member. Likewise, the way Maisie comforts Lacey is also very sister-like.

[@karenramey2408]

@@midnalazuli793 yeah, I got that feeling too. That Lacey loved both of them like sisters with how broken up she was after Jay's death and how Massie was comforting Lacey after Jay died.

[@millymauce]

ok all of the body horror aside i really love gracie and charlie's dynamics SO much, unironically makes things even more realistic! also really love how unique each entry of this series are from each other!!! don't know what else to say, other than that just beautiful work as always tundra, woawww

[@midnalazuli793]

I honestly really hated the way Grace treated Charlie. Like, in some respects, I can understand why she'd be mad at her, because she lied about keeping their previous interview private. But Grace was so dismissive and careless throughout the whole video, and seemed like she didn't even want to be there. She was also acting like Charlie was weird for being concerned with Rocio's wellbeing, even though Grace actually knew Rocio personally, and didn't care about her wellbeing at all. Not to mention, it was kind of messed up of Grace to expose Charlie to the Jay stuff specifically because Charlie had mentioned Jay was her favorite character... like, she didn't think that it might've been a little traumatizing to make Charlie watch her favorite go through all that suffering?

[@Quackervoltz]

​@@midnalazuli793 Lowkey I kinda hate Grace

[@gatitodenieve_yt895]

​@@midnalazuli793Apoyo tu punto de vista

[@avik_sshitgurung9191]

8:59 does anyone notice that Jay's expression changes when she is abt to be impaled by the spikes?

[@PearangeProductions]

"Welp, I've made a horrible mistake. R.I.P., me."

[@_Anna_-226knana]

I'm making it my home screen 😍 it's giving"I fucked up, now watch me look like an idiot dead"

[@kidferocious]

I didn’t notice it at first, until I watched some videos analyzing the series.

[@8QueenArt8]

Fr

[@Huda-yc2ic]

this episode went way beyond my expectations; the voice acting, the sound design, the art, everything! you've done such an amazing job on this, thank you so much for this masterpiece :)

[@dosuuereaunderscore]

As what Jay would say, this video was RADICAL

[@lunchboxmadness]

LMFAO YOU DIDN'T

[@notmaxis7707]

I love the detail of there being guitar and synth in the goodbye song at the end but no drums, because at the beginning we saw how Jay was the drummer in the band, the attention to detail is crazy and really adds to the horror

[@ladyweirdo6035]

I always love the theming of these videos. The first video is a straight-forward look into the horrors of being stalked, the second is the struggles of adult life after trauma and how you want to lash out at everyone, the third deals with the rage your trauma brings you and how you don't know where to go after a storm. This isn't the main theme of the video, but there seems to be an underlying tone of internalized misogyny mixing in with Lacey's grief. I mean, it can't be a coincidence she told the tomboy character that she should've been wearing and doing make-up instead of "boyish", dangerous things such as skating on buildings.

[@midnalazuli793]

I think you're misinterpreting Lacey's mindset. She didn't blame Jay's death on her own masculinity. Jay's death was a result of entitled mothers who complained that Jay was a bad influence on their daughters for being a tomboy, and therefore, "not feminine enough" for a site aimed at girls. They emailed Rocio and demanded she be removed from the site, so Rocio killed Jay off to spite them. There's a single frame during the goodbye song that shows the morgue version of Lacey attacking the makeup parlor version of Lacey, which I believe is meant to represent Lacey taking revenge on toxic femininity for being the thing that caused her friend's death.

[@feridoodles6]

jesus fucking christ ghosttundra, you done it again but now my stomach doesn't feel good, i feel/felt unnerved, and i'm traumatized even more. but alas, this was a great lacey episode. you are probably my most favorite horror creator ever, because you mix things up and manage to actually disturb me in a way that i can both understand, and also not understand, fully. and the best part, these videos actually look and feel like a dream-nightmare fusion that keeps repeatedly coming back, and the aesthetics of these videos make it feel like i've accidentally stumbled upon the dark side of the internet disguised as something innocent that i have no way of getting out of. you rock, man. you genuinely do. thank you for this wonderful series.

[@silly2898]

man, my own head just keeps on figuring out all of this insane things, I should study psychology

[@sketchyswirl]

words cannot express how thankful i am that you put a warning for puking sounds. i love surreal horror stuff like this but im severely emetophobic and its always horrible when people use vomit for shock in horror media. that said im probably not going to be able to watch this, but i just found and watched all the lacey stuff and the quality of these are incredible ^^

[@ghosttundra]

thank you! skip from 19:33 to 19:42 and you should be fine!

[@eeyeedove]

@@ghosttundra THANK YOOUU I was just searching for this exact comment. >:)

[@doctor-bus]

​@@ghosttundra Thank you!! I also was searching for this exact comment

[@_havanAA]

the whole end made me feel SO bad for lacey (or rocio) i clicked on this expecting to just watch some casual horror, and got hit with harsh reality. (also i have to say i was so happy about the art in 26:00 of Maisie comforting Lacey)

[@midnalazuli793]

What about Jay? She looked like she went through a lot of physical pain this episode.

[@DohGeneSee2]

It's a sad story. Lacey's spunk in trying to win back her friend is genuinely more moving than her craziness.

[@izzyravin9713]

Tbh this one nearly made me cry, just the grief Lacey was going through when she was trying to “fix” jay

[@midnalazuli793]

I know, right? In my opinion, that was the saddest moment in the whole series. You can really feel Lacey's pain and just how much Jay's death affected her. And considering Lacey is heavily implied to be Rocio's insert, despite being the one responsible for Jay's demise, it probably really hurt Rocio to do what she did to Jay.

[@Anonymous-73]

So from what I can tell the lore is as follows: Rocio was forced to live with her Uncle for whatever reason (her parents either died or couldn’t take care of her) who abused and neglected her for years. We see 2 major events unfold, the first being a date that was set up by her uncle with someone who was stalking Rocio (which he may or may not have had any knowledge of but he probably wouldn’t care) leading to her being abused even more in a toxic “relationship” that “ate her up inside” hence what the stalker said at the end of the first video, the second event being the the final straw for Rocio in which her Uncle killed her beloved dog. After that, Rocio murdered her Uncle and possibly other people who he knew and went in the run. From here it’s a bit unclear of what happens, as of now. Going off of the Cafe video I theorized she might’ve gotten a job in the food service at a local restaurant to keep her going, but couldn’t perform properly in it and eventually it got closed down due to health violations (which may or may not have been her fault) and perhaps a mortician before she eventually met Grace. She and Grace became quick friends and found interest in making flash games for girls. Again, it’s a bit unclear at the moment, but here’s what I believe may have happened between Grace and Rocio that made them slowly divide. 1. Grace was a Religious or otherwise homophobic girl, but Rocio had feelings for her. When she confessed to Grace, she was disgusted and things went downhill from there. 2.Their friendship was toxic from the very beginning, but got worse when they made the website due to different visions on what it should be. Either way, their friendship tanked which drive Rocio to her breaking point, to where she found it difficult to separate fiction and reality. Which is where the new characters come into play. There are again a few (mostly one) theories I have that relate to Jay and Masie 1. They’re based off of real people Rocio knew, meaning Jay was a real person (or imaginary friend?) who died before she met Grace. 2. The 2 represent the ideal lives or friends Rocio wished to have. 3. Is more likely for me. Jay and Masie represent Rocio’s vision of a “better girl” than her. The first being Masie, who is a typical girl, with Jay being a more rebellious type who acts more like a teenage boy. When Rocio receives concerned comments about Jay however, her view completely shifts towards the former ideology, so she kills her off. Rocio finds comfort in this world of hers, so much so she becomes obsessed with the website, which concerns Grace even further until she leaves Rocio behind. Eventually, she finds a way to hardwire herself into her own creations, to “become” Lacey. So she goes through with it, hoping it’ll all be fine. But all is not well, her trauma follows her and even manifests in the world around her, marking her go through it again, and again, and again. Or in her words, The next day, and the next day, and the next day.

[@gatitodenieve_yt895]

Muy buena teoría, aunque en realidad el acosador del primer juego todo el tiempo era su propio tío

[@pancake1859]

Thank you so much for your insight about the lore

[@Anonymous-73]

@@pancake1859 remember it is mostly theories, so I may be wrong on some things.

[@Flow-Fi-]

I don’t think Rocio had a crush on Grace, I just don’t see any implications for that. Rather, it’s possible Grace wasn’t equipped to deal with Rocio’s trauma and the way it manifested in their relationships so she began to distance herself from her and dismiss her as crazy and cuckoo. I also don’t think the parents complaining about Jay resulted in Rocio shifting her internal ideology, there’s a message posted by Rocio under a forum full of concerned parents complaining about the masculinity of Jay where she says “careful what you wish for ;-)” to me this implies that she killed Jay off in order to spite those parents, to say “look at what your stupid standards did to your children and Jay.” This could also explain why Jay appeared in almost every game after her death, as brought up by Grace Lastly, I don’t think Rocio actually wired herself into the internet to “become” Lacey, which is honestly mainly because it sort of ruins the immersion for me. “woOOAh Lacey was the ghost of Rocio the whole timeeee!” is a trope I don’t wanna see much more 😭 that’s why I prefer to think of Rocio tangled up in the wires as being a representation of how tethered she was to her creation, how not only connected was it with she but also how obsessed she was with it

[@midnalazuli793]

Why would Jay be based on a real person or imaginary friend?

[@HYP3RFiiX8]

The Lacey’s goodbye song really hit home for me. When you lose a loved one, you want the world to stop. For everyone to see and understand that a significant person who meant so much in your world will never come around again. You want people to stop and mourn, to empathize and cry, you just want everyone to know such a special person is gone forever. But that doesn’t happen, it will never happen. The world keeps going, as if nobody cares. It's frustrating to realize you cant just stop time, you need to continue on too. You start to question why this is happening and what you can do but the more you question everything, the worse things get. It's unfair to see these bright sunny days because you could be spending them with your loved one, but instead you are cooped inside your dark room with the urge to scream and cry, begging for the grief to subside so you can function normally again. But it doesn't, you just have to mask it for the next day, and the next, and the next, and the next. You captured the vicious cycle and the gripping pain of grief and its stages so accurately. Everyone knows and understands the concept, but experiencing it is cruel and ugly. Wonderful work as always, this series holds so much value in my heart for how real and scary the themes explored are for the traumatized individuals.

[@midnalazuli793]

Very well said, you can really tell how much Jay meant to Lacey.

[@Maggie_Pjo_Fnaf]

Oh, and the image at 12:27 says "The Power Of Makeup, hide undesirables with illusion", which pixelated faces and one with black circles as eyes

[@EmilyBlossom]

Ooo you've did it also

[@A_Simple_kilometre]

Two have no eyes btw

[@EmrysTheWeirdo]

Dude I’ve been trying to pause on the part for like 20 minutes thank you 😭😭

[@Maggie_Pjo_Fnaf]

@@EmrysTheWeirdo Np!

[@sobekmania]

13:18 I know it’s meant to create immersion, but I like the concept of someone’s face randomly sagging during a cosmetology session. Like, imagine it happening and the woman being like: “Goddamnit, my face is sagging again. Could you pick it up for me please?”

[@feedmewithhate]

the face is sagging because it's a corpse

[@bashartz]

It took me a while to click that they were depicting a mortuary cosmetologist during the whole thing. It was so well done too like what???

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

In real life everything on your face is padded out + wired shut first specifically to prevent something like this, so they're actually very stiff.

[@Starrykinss]

LMAO 💀

[@Dr._Potato]

​@@every_planet_we_reach_is_deadAnd there are also plastic eye caps put on the eye sockets because the eyeballs commonly sink after death

[@CannoliSlugYT]

If you pause at this part 25:31 , you can it's Lacey fighting against her makeup parlor version, it kinda makes me think it's a battle between reality and fantasy in her mind.

[@undoxxbruh9804]

I feel like Jay could be a self representation of Rocio, saying it bc of the personal style. But at the same time i could see Lacey as Rocio's proyection of herself, anyways A MA ZING!!! As always just a masterpiece all the way

[@starlex3021]

Honestly I have a feeling all three might be representing different aspects of Rocio's personality. So by killing off Jay, the tomboy who hated make up and stuff, Rocio might have tried to bid a part of herself goodbye to try to start to abide by society's convections, in this case that girls must like make up and wear it to be 'beautiful' (ergo, Lacey putting make up on Jay's remains; the 'core/main' aspect of Rocio's personality making sure she's completely pretty)

[@undoxxbruh9804]

@@starlex3021 ooh i like that! But at the same time i don't see Rocio in the pink haired girl (i can't remember the name), i see grace on her

[@starlex3021]

@@undoxxbruh9804 tbf, it's not like we know a lot of Maisie's (pink haired girl) personality, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But also, i'm getting vibes that Grace wasn't as invested as Rocio, so idk, maybe Maisie WAS originally meant to 'be' Grace, but since Grace began pulling away, maybe Rocio started to insert some of herself in the character

[@undoxxbruh9804]

@@starlex3021 Yes!! I really hope we get to know more about masie, she's so cute but i would hate for something bad happening to her :( for now I'll just cook up my theories on Lacey and Jay's parallels with rocio

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

They might all be Rocio self-inserts. All of my characters are me, in one way or another.

[@ghosttamelia]

12:27 the power of makeup hide undesirables with illusion

[@thatsacoollookingmissl-]

Racism? Racism!

[@ghosttamelia]

@@thatsacoollookingmissl- Rocio put that in the game

[@thatsacoollookingmissl-]

@@ghosttamelia you... would be surprised. If not then for Irony.

[@Foxy_8000]

Mano,que obra prima. Assistir isso pela primaira vez me deu um sentimento único de não saber o que está por vir,mas mesmo assim já sabendo que se tratava de um jogo da lacey. Quando a lacey fica com a jay... "Se você tivesse sido mais feminina..." e as outras frases..me deram um impacto mt forte,isso tem mt potencial e é insano o carinho que é feito,o carinho também da comunidade que vocês criaram,isso é simplesmente incrível.

[@snappuchan]

i appreciate Lacey's enthusiasm with tryna get a new occupation but PLEASE GIVE HER A DAY WHERE SHE CAN CHILL AND HAVE A HOT COCOA OR SUMN....

[@floriquieremother3]

YES PLZ

[@iancortescontreras6084]

I've been wanting her to be happy since the diner one Is it too much to ask for something cheerful?

[@NoName......]

Nah that's probably near the ending. The last vid is gonna be a out moving pat trauma.

[@laalaaingmodorwhatever]

SOMEONE PLEASE GET THIS GIRL A THERAPIST LIKE DAMN

[@314Pirasy]

Considering her luck streak and who's in charge, I think if poor Lacey tried to treat herself to some hot chocolate, it'd give her third degree burns.

[@comicsans-br4vu]

Jay's death reminded me of a lot of sonic.exe games, especially the way she died, it reminded me of that one sonic.exe game with Amy and cream, where cream kept going faster and faster until she hit a spike wall, it traumatized me

[@Darkest_Gray]

Omg yes, I was watching a video talking about Lacey cause I’m too scared to watch myself. When I saw the skating part where she is going very fast I was scarred and knew that was gonna happen cause of sonic.exe.

[@tortuguitapoo]

I LOVEDDD THIS SO MUCH, but it hit so close to me. ive had my grief for a very important friend in the past. the emotions lacey felt were, so, so close to mine, because you really do feel this need of hiding your grief from yourself and everyone, its so hard to deal with sudden death. i felt the urge to make it seem like he didnt die at all yk and people even thought it was strange because after i was told about his death i seemed a lot more happy and productive. the level of denial you can get is truly crazy and horrible to get out of. totally understand lacey in this

[@SpookedForky]

This has truly been a real Lacey’s flash games (cue credits)

[@mustacheskulls]

Amazing video! The songs are all bops, there should be a playlist haha I loved the mystery behind Jay, definitely adds more to the lore. Poor Lacey never catches a break

[@CartoonyBoi]

The segments with Grace and Charlie when they do different still poses as they talk is so goofy. It’s a great temporary distraction from the horrific events that unfold in the background 💀

[@Rat_9991]

WE FEELING MUY BONITA IN THE BEAUTY PARLOR TONIGHT!!! also this vid is AMAZING on so many levels??? the idea of having to be a "beautiful corpse" is so disgusting and terrifying to me so this is FANTASTIC horror! also the whole denial and beautifying the corpse reminds me a lot of Pumpkin Eater, which is great cause its one of my fav visual novels! overall just great!!!

[@starlenestilltouringyoutub2116]

That or Lacey is actually a make up artist… for dead people. At a morgue. Which explains the vanity doesn’t die freeze frame.

[@marianasobrenome3316]

ARE YOU FEELING BONITA???

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

Tbf the main purpose of a mortuary cosmetologist is to make the dead person look like they're "just sleeping" so it's less traumatic for their family to say goodbye, but the fact we put makeup on corpses is undeniably weird 😂

[@Lacey-Star]

Wish people accepted others the same way as when people accept themselfs, because accepting the skin where you were born with it's sometimes harder than accepting others

[@Lacey-Star]

Great video, I love it😻

[@ananyanyan]

So Rocio killed off Jay to spite the complaints about her 'not being feminine enough for little girls'. In the screenshot she responds to the questionable comments with "be careful what you ask for ;)" and with her making Lacey say stuff like "If you were just more feminine" and slapping makeup on the corpse, it was Rocio's way of getting back at those comments by finally 'making Jay feminine'. This is so well written!

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

It gets even sadder since Lacey is an abuse survivor. It's very common for abused kids to develop defense mechanisms like "if I'm pretty they'll be nicer to me, if I'm ugly they'll hurt me" so she wants Jay to be more feminine so she's 'safe' :(

[@midnalazuli793]

I actually think Lacey believed she could bring Jay back to life if she made her appear more feminine... obviously it was way too late for that, but Lacey wasn't thinking clearly, due to being so overwhelmed with devastation over her friend's death.

[@FunnyAngeli]

As a kid I used to watch my sister play these types of games, so the Lacey games series has had a special place in my “early digital” horror loving heart :o couple that with your amazing artistic skills and imaginative storytelling, this was an amazing video and I can’t wait to see what else you have in store for Lacey and beyond !!

[@themilkman6969]

i thought this was going to be an in universe version of those “the most DISTURBING flash game” video essays

[@GymnopedieTornado]

I can’t tell if everytime one of the first women comes on screen in the makeup game they’re saying ‘hi lovely’ or ‘I’m ugly’

[@zippydoda8317]

Maisie comforting Lacey at the end I CAN'T- 💔

[@Tist4akk0]

"IM SORRY I CANT BE HERE" -Yukii

[@lumemiruu]

f in the chat for her. she was so excited :(

[@Tist4akk0]

​@@lumemiruu fr

[@strawyuki]

thank you akko????

[@strawyuki]

@@lumemiruu yes I was, it was amazing

[@midnalazuli793]

Um, who exactly is Yukii?

[@o0Scarrow0o]

3:43 I would like to point out how Lacey’s bio says ‘had’ lots of friends Whitch is creepy considering the rest of it is in present tense

[@RekeauAishima]

I just got up from sleep yesterday morning the minute I saw a new Lacey’s flash games. I gotta tell ya, you really killed it throughout the video including the music like this one is much different from what I have expected. I absolutely LOVE IT, tysm for letting us watch the vid early ghosttundra, worth the hype as always! ^w^

[@troopeq9085]

Wait how is that comment from 10 days ago when video was posted 1 day ago?