Starcraft 2 Without Building ANYTHING?! (Wings of Liberty)

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GiantGrantGames

GiantGrantGames

Күн бұрын

No production Wings of Liberty is a really fun run. While some of the missions at the beginning are freewins, the campaigns slowly morphs from an RTS into a Puzzle game. Except the creators didn't know if the puzzle had a solution or not . . .
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0:00 - Liberation Day + Rules
0:42 - The Outlaws
1:07 - Zero Fun
1:39 - The Evacuation
2:36 - Smash and Grab
3:37 - The Devil's Playground
4:35 - The Other Evacuation
5:30 - The Great Train Robbery
6:23 - cuThroat
7:22 - Outbreak
9:36 - Welcome to the Jungle
10:41 - Engine of Destruction
11:31 - Media Blitz
12:13 - Piercing the Shroud & Breakout
12:35 - The Dig
15:23 - Whispers of DoOm
15:36 - A Sinister Turn
19:40 - The Moebius Factor
20:18 - Supernova
20:53 - Maw of the Void
21:49 - Safe Haven
22:51 - Haven's Fall
28:48 - Gates of Hell
29:24 - Shatter the Sky
30:28 - Belly of the Beast
30:57 - All-In

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@DeniableWhistle
@DeniableWhistle 2 жыл бұрын
This is the timeline where Mensk's propaganda was so successful that Raynor wasn't able to hire anyone other than his closest friends.
@robbert-janmerk6783
@robbert-janmerk6783 2 жыл бұрын
And all the SCVs went on strike
@MrRPGTHEBEST
@MrRPGTHEBEST 2 жыл бұрын
@Tommaso Stefanelli Don't forget the spectres and New Folsom prisoners, but yeah, you're right. I'd also say this makes a lot of sense lorewise.
@aaronsegal6052
@aaronsegal6052 2 жыл бұрын
Raynor has only his closest friends. Zeratul has no friends.
@anonymous-tl8ns
@anonymous-tl8ns 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronsegal6052 But Zeratul has 6 probes.
@aaronsegal6052
@aaronsegal6052 2 жыл бұрын
@@anonymous-tl8ns Those are employees
@WildHalo03
@WildHalo03 2 жыл бұрын
15:05 "'i send my factory on a sneak attack behind enemy lines" -GiantGrantGames not something i expected to hear from any run of starcraft before
@zaxtonhong3958
@zaxtonhong3958 2 жыл бұрын
The stealthy, nimble factory
@laffinggas8068
@laffinggas8068 2 жыл бұрын
"We move unseen" -Factory
@daredeflon662
@daredeflon662 2 жыл бұрын
I do that all the time when i proxy it vs TOSS and fly it in their base to make widow mines LMAO
@missbelled6700
@missbelled6700 2 жыл бұрын
Co-op Swann is basically Flying Factory Man if you're into that
@forrestmillard2627
@forrestmillard2627 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I particularly enjoyed that part
@zaxtonhong3958
@zaxtonhong3958 2 жыл бұрын
Something grant mentioned on stream about this run: It REALLY feels like you’re just a scrappy band of rebels, using every strategy, weakpoint, and position to your advantage. As if the campaign was made to be done with this challenge in mind. (Though no one except grant would do something as absurd as this)
@maguc5906
@maguc5906 2 жыл бұрын
Very much so. It feels kind of weird seeing Jim and Swann talking about having no money and all when you have a maxed out army during the missions
@Derplordington
@Derplordington 2 жыл бұрын
B-but he borrowed this run idea from Davy Gunface and even mentioned it earlier in the run.. Grant only did it on a higher dif.
@Sorta8
@Sorta8 2 жыл бұрын
@@Derplordington yes , as nobody would really try to do this on higher difficulty.
@DaveyGunface
@DaveyGunface 2 жыл бұрын
The WoL runs are a lot more different in the fact that Grant usually decides to try out every map, while I typically just aim to beat All In as the "victory condition" and skip over maps fairly frequently. It's honestly been so long I can't remember if my original video was on Casual or Normal, but the only thing I know for certain is Grant literally outclassed me by the 0:01 second mark because in that video I had no clue you could change the game speed and that still haunts my nightmares to this day.
@crispychips7161
@crispychips7161 2 жыл бұрын
@@maguc5906 maybe they have no money because they have to supply all those units. Idk just a suggestion.
@dandelyon2796
@dandelyon2796 2 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed that "A Sinister Turn" was possible with this ruleset, you're a legend!
@MalcadorTheSigilite
@MalcadorTheSigilite 2 жыл бұрын
And Haven's fall
@shucklesors
@shucklesors 2 жыл бұрын
@@MalcadorTheSigilite you missed the point. havens fall is not the type that would spring to mind as being ridiculously difficult just from thinking of this ruleset
@ManAtPogo
@ManAtPogo 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say the same
@Dark_Voice
@Dark_Voice 2 жыл бұрын
@@shucklesors Why not though? I always look at any missions that have enemy forces that regenerate overtime and see them as total threats because if your supplies are limited (here limited damage) its kinda obvious "if I dont have enough to overpower the regen, Im done" For me that applies to any game and even without any masochistic rules. If anything regenerates, replenishes structures, bases or simply resets with full HP (if you get too far for example) - I always open my eyes more and am thinking ok, so here I gotta bring burst and insane damage at once to oneshot or kill it quickly AND with no build in this champaigne it was totally obvious.
@shucklesors
@shucklesors 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dark_Voice ok, the main point is that theres a SC2 WOL mission where you start off with just probes and presumably macro up and kill the hybrid. immediately, it sounds ridiculous and undoable, and most of us can immediately intuitively think that theres a need to amend the rules slightly. with havens fall, you can argue, be technical about it, and yes it ended up being difficult, for incredibly specific reasons such as how you specifically had 3 vikings, no medics, the damage output from 3 vikings was at a specific "unsweet" spot for killing that last infestation, etc. these incredibly technical reasons are not what we would think of as causing it to be a really tough one, until we watched this video or watched GGG attempt it. your very generic reasons actually say nothing about anything at all (not a slam on you, i just think youre misthinking things). everything you say, can be "generically" true in "generic" plain words, but its not like the first case where there are FULL ENEMY BASES and you know you start with probes and a base for mining. in fact, havens fall could still be all that with "regenerating, replenishing structures" bla bla bla, and if instead of 3 vikings we had 6, GGG would have did it in 1 to 3 tries. who knows. im trying my best to explain it and if you dont really still get it still im not sure if theres more i can do lol
@Super-xs5gq
@Super-xs5gq 2 жыл бұрын
I like how defending the drill until the temple door falls is suicide because they’re too powerful, so instead you decide to completely decimate the enemy base and destroy their army
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 2 жыл бұрын
Raynor: "Defending against these Protoss while we break open this door is too risky." Swann: "Then how will we get the artifact?" Raynor: "Simple: We'll slaughter all of the Protoss so they can't attack us." Swann: "...wait, that doesn't sound like it makes logistical sense."
@justanothercommenterwithan9089
@justanothercommenterwithan9089 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuakim5240 i mean if you can't win a war of attrition then you have to go on the offensive
@MrDwarfpitcher
@MrDwarfpitcher Жыл бұрын
@@joshuakim5240 Zealot: "Executor, the Terrans have stopped drilling the door!" Executor: "Good maybe they will leave" Zealot: "Executor, there is a Terran Building floating just outside our perimeter and the Drill is swinging into our direction" Executor: "No need to worry, that simply means that the artifact is safe"
@michaelmccabe3079
@michaelmccabe3079 10 ай бұрын
Now if only they had tried that on Char... ;)
@dodojesus4529
@dodojesus4529 Ай бұрын
The drakken laser droll on char would be really usefull wouldnt it?
@harribarryyt4394
@harribarryyt4394 2 жыл бұрын
21:39 Ah yes, my favourite unit. The Cattlebruiser.
@therion8469
@therion8469 2 жыл бұрын
Hide your cows cos ill give em bruises -cattlebruiser
@Jack_Rakan
@Jack_Rakan 2 жыл бұрын
@@therion8469 that's the reason the cows in Twitch Trolls Grant all have stealth
@alfonsocyrusjoshua9551
@alfonsocyrusjoshua9551 2 жыл бұрын
@@therion8469 we moo unseen
@avitraangelica9278
@avitraangelica9278 2 жыл бұрын
Hard counter to the Tauren Space Marine
@georggraul385
@georggraul385 2 жыл бұрын
I guess that's a hint towards Day9. I believe he said it in an funday monday episode.
@firockfinion3326
@firockfinion3326 2 жыл бұрын
The story of the best damn six probes throughout the entire history of Protoss.
@F14thunderhawk
@F14thunderhawk 2 жыл бұрын
Probius the First, Probius the Second, Probius the Third, Probius the Eternal, Probius Prime, and Probius, First of his Name.
@valentindesombre402
@valentindesombre402 2 жыл бұрын
Would so much make a movie of their mission
@eliasalias7851
@eliasalias7851 Жыл бұрын
Home Alone: Zhakul Edition
@percymacdonald6657
@percymacdonald6657 Жыл бұрын
2 of the team would have dramatic deaths!
@ohchristonastick
@ohchristonastick Жыл бұрын
En Taro Probe!!!
@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054
@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 2 жыл бұрын
The objective of a No Production Wings of Liberty run is super unique. There are 26 missions you need to complete without building anything, each guarded by a progressively stronger force of enemies.
@rayzerot
@rayzerot 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo good sir. Good form.
@sandrothenecromancer6810
@sandrothenecromancer6810 2 жыл бұрын
These challenges are getting guarded by progressively stronger wave of objectives.
@wolfe9655
@wolfe9655 2 жыл бұрын
How the turns tabled
@crisis8v88
@crisis8v88 2 жыл бұрын
The units you start with will die, but the run will complete before they can be eliminated.
@N7Crow
@N7Crow 2 жыл бұрын
I love how fire extinguishers end up being a key part of saving the galaxy
@Eiskralle1
@Eiskralle1 8 ай бұрын
Of course, Raynor knows that workplace safety is no joke
@Pyromaniac77777
@Pyromaniac77777 2 жыл бұрын
“I send my factory on a sneak attack behind enemy lines” sends actual autorepairing factory to scout for laser drill. Genius
@erickpoorbaugh6728
@erickpoorbaugh6728 Жыл бұрын
Factory pilot #1: "Ghosts are so elite, they get behind enemy lines to find targets to nuke." Factory pilot #2: "Heck, I could do that." Factory pilot #1: "Could not." Factory pilot #2: *tosses away beer and grabs controls* "Just you watch me."
@7thAce
@7thAce 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of effort put into an optional mission in A Sinister Turn is ridiculous. Great job (both Grant and the trigger editor helpers) on figuring it out and being the most ridiculous mission solved yet.
@rightarmer
@rightarmer 2 жыл бұрын
WHITE TEXT COMPILATION (because I enjoy watching videos podcast style, which means I miss out on a lot of the funny flavour text): The Other Evacuation 5:15 Truck APC: I will save the colony! (the driver has parked the APC on the starport ramp and is holding the line against the zerg instead of evacuating colonists) The Great Train Robbery 5:42 Francis the Firebat: FACTORY! Francis the Firebat: My old nemesis! (begins attacking the factory instead of engaging the diamondbacks currently attacking the train it is supposed to escort) Francis the Firebat: Our feud ends today! (by now, all other escorts have died) cuThroat [sic] 7:09 Battlecruiser: Jerry... Battlecruiser: You can't just invite another planetary fortress over without telling us (Grant has lifted a CC into Orland's base and transformed it into a planetary right next to Orland's own planetary). Battlecruiser: Not cool man. Piercing the Shroud 12:19 Hybrid: Uhh die please? (is attacking two medics healing each other) Medic #1: nope Medic #2: no way Hybrid: Seriously? (still clawing at the medics) Breakout 12:29 Tosh: Why dey put da hotkeys next to each other like that? [is calling a nuke at his feet because Grant fat fingered the hotkeys for mind blast (b) and nuke (n)]. The Dig 14:09 Factory: I didn't beat Francis the Firebat just to die here! (is brought to red hp by protoss while acting as a spotter for the laser drill) A Sinister Turn 19:04 Zealot: I wonder where those probes went? (is standing idly as said probes are right next to him and are freeing a preserver). The Moebius Factor 20:03 Spartan Company: You'll come back to get us, right? (has been dropped off in the safe spot behind the second data core) Spartan Company: ...Right? (as the medivac flies away) Safe Haven 22:07 Viking: It's over nexus! Viking: I have the high ground! (while shooting the nexus from an elevated position) edit: btw, all the other GGG videos up to this one also have white text compilation comments. gl finding them.
@Exshooter101
@Exshooter101 2 жыл бұрын
You're doing god's work
@LeCheckmate
@LeCheckmate 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, that's awesome
@thadman3003
@thadman3003 2 жыл бұрын
these are A tier. thank you for the effort of your comment
@LeonY50
@LeonY50 2 жыл бұрын
You are an angel
@rightarmer
@rightarmer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Grant for re-hearting my comment after I inadvertently removed your first heart while editing typos (hearts get removed when you edit the comment).
@Rayelhero
@Rayelhero 2 жыл бұрын
"The mission objective is extremely unique" cracks me up every time xD
@zaxtonhong3958
@zaxtonhong3958 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough it’s objective was ACTUALLY unique this time. This is the only time in sc2 where more objectives pop up on the map like whack-a-mole
@PinnysVids
@PinnysVids 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaxtonhong3958 And I'm not sure they got "progressively stronger" every time either. I've never noticed that one was more difficult than the others. Joke still cracked me up though
@Kerostasis
@Kerostasis 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaxtonhong3958 One of the LotV missions is sorta that..reclaiming the locks? Not an exact match but pretty close.
@Corcook
@Corcook 2 жыл бұрын
This video is cool because given Raynor and his raiders are rebels, lore wise he’d probably only have these handful of units to send on missions. Realistically he could probably only afford to send 2 medics and 2 fire bats to go help evacuate a colony. I think it makes sense lore wise at the very least. Like on the Odin mission, Jimmy probably has an old hanger in the Hyperion with some dilapidated Wraiths and that’s all he can spare and that can keep up with Tycus
@Antare5
@Antare5 2 жыл бұрын
"I fear no man" *6 probes who kill the progenitor of the hybrid* "But that thing. It scares me."
@Rosstail
@Rosstail 2 жыл бұрын
Probe: "I'm an engineer. That means I solve *prob*lems."
@Jacobstx
@Jacobstx 2 жыл бұрын
Grant: This is not mathematically possible with this ruleset. Viewer: So what you need to do is change the rules. Grant: What? No! What we need to do is *change the math!*
@CC-tl3zs
@CC-tl3zs 2 жыл бұрын
brain size: maximum
@shroomer3867
@shroomer3867 2 жыл бұрын
@@CC-tl3zs maximum implies a limit. Grant does not have such petty boundaries.
@teeteenine2222
@teeteenine2222 2 жыл бұрын
"But you can never rule out the possibility of Players to Bend the laws of Mathematics when the chips are down." Gamechamp3000 in The Rockman 8 Ball-Only Challenge run
@PeterZaitcev
@PeterZaitcev 2 жыл бұрын
Either you are a prophet or Grant quoted this comment in the last video, where he *literally* changes the math
@Phagocytosis
@Phagocytosis 2 жыл бұрын
16:25
@tpotshax8703
@tpotshax8703 2 жыл бұрын
"They will die" and "the mission objective is extremely unique" are my favorite recurring lines
@stanimir5F
@stanimir5F 2 жыл бұрын
The game: You have to build pylons to power up the buildings! Grant: We don't do that here!
@runtergerutscht4401
@runtergerutscht4401 2 жыл бұрын
1:30 "Attack waves going in and out of my base" I imagine that when Grant isn't looking, his marines just tell the zerglings zo get lost, pretend to throw a bone and watch the zerg doggos run off, searching for the bone they hid behind their backs.
@HampenBraender
@HampenBraender 2 жыл бұрын
These runs just keeps getting more and more impossible, I clicked this video thinking that I would get some explanation about why half of the campaign is not possible without building, but somehow you wizard your way through, no idea how.
@behrensjulian3602
@behrensjulian3602 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until you see The Host and Salvation from LOTV
@wapandaforever242
@wapandaforever242 2 жыл бұрын
@@behrensjulian3602 Time stop spam most likely
@SpaceDwarfNova
@SpaceDwarfNova 2 жыл бұрын
@@behrensjulian3602 Haha I'm waiting for that video
@unexpected2475
@unexpected2475 2 жыл бұрын
@@wapandaforever242 For Salvation, no, for The Host, sort of.
@galomir833
@galomir833 Жыл бұрын
@@unexpected2475 not not sort of for the host, Time continuum break just that
@marksara9656
@marksara9656 2 жыл бұрын
You know it's a hard challange when GiantGrantGames has to play on Normal difficulty
@ko71k52
@ko71k52 2 жыл бұрын
30:25 I will steer the Battlecruiser into a collision course with the Cooling Tower Some Tassadar vibes you know Damn, man, this run is incredible, Im so hyped about it, half of the missions strategies are insane, genius, I felt like watching some Ocean's 12 during the video, that deep analysis of Sinister turn is sick, I couldn't imagine challenge runs be so fascinating, hope you can do more, that's some high quality content, good job, man, all my respect goes to you
@judicatorhurayth1927
@judicatorhurayth1927 2 жыл бұрын
Remember us Raynor what we have done here!
@MrMcSpiff
@MrMcSpiff 2 жыл бұрын
OH FUCK
@Mythmaker12687
@Mythmaker12687 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, winning is a matter of meticulous preparation and in-depth knowledge of the game's mechanics. Sometimes, it's a matter of bashing your head against a wall until you break through. And sometimes, it's both.
@justwow8084
@justwow8084 2 жыл бұрын
This is guide for players who don't like macro missions
@gen169
@gen169 2 жыл бұрын
But like to micro
@zes7215
@zes7215 Жыл бұрын
wrgg
@Supergoon1989
@Supergoon1989 2 жыл бұрын
That 'A Sinister Turn' victory is utterly amazing! The patience and 'never-give-up' attitude that must have required just goes so beyond what most people would even consider attempting. Very well done Sir!!
@TheStargateNerd
@TheStargateNerd 2 жыл бұрын
There's saying "This mission can't be done with this ruleset", and then there's Grant.
@SZRLM
@SZRLM 2 жыл бұрын
Haven's Fall: When the enemy goes to infest a colony, if you clear the defenders and let the virophage finish and then kill it (and the colony buildings, but you can clear them while the virophage builds), then you never have to deal with that colony again. Rinse and repeat until all colonies are infested and then easily cleared and you no longer need to scramble or clear overlords.
@kamikazegargoyle
@kamikazegargoyle 2 жыл бұрын
I remember looking through the triggers for Sinister Turn and Haven's Fall and I've never seen any code more spaghettified in starcraft 2 than these two missions
@kurusujann6660
@kurusujann6660 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Ghost rapid-fire Snipe technique (where you work keyboard/mouse settings) was the most advanced as you can get but Grant checking the editor for triggers and looking through the mission's programming is unbelievable. And with just probes. Lol
@bluntlyhonest6803
@bluntlyhonest6803 2 жыл бұрын
Those vikings deserve a promotion.
@Yetidelamontagne
@Yetidelamontagne 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm a master of the archive, I already know everything that will be on this video, tremble before me mortal" After the section of the video on the mission "a sinister turn" "I ... I didn't forsee this ... This is impossible ! How could he has done that !" Gg as always mister GGG
@stonium69
@stonium69 2 жыл бұрын
Impossible! Perhaps the archives are incomplete
@Yetidelamontagne
@Yetidelamontagne 2 жыл бұрын
@@stonium69 doubting the omnipotence of the archives is heresy archive companion !
@bluestorm749
@bluestorm749 2 жыл бұрын
I knew that deathless wouldn’t be the end, but I totally didn’t expect this absolute spark of genius!
@Luckysquirrel1256
@Luckysquirrel1256 2 жыл бұрын
The positioning you used on Outbreak and All-In was stellar, and really cool strategizing. Hope we will get to see some of your other recent challenge runs here soon too, I have been watching them on the other channel.
@madkoala2130
@madkoala2130 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, this challanges are geting more crazy with each upload.
@shadoweye306
@shadoweye306 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@SH4D0W0733
@SH4D0W0733 2 жыл бұрын
Starcraft 2 Without doing ANY challenge?! (Wings of Liberty) Ok, so the ruleset of this run is that it can't be a challenge run. Since there's only one rule this seems simple at first glance but it quickly becomes clear to me that this is a paradox. Now, to get around the paradox I had to enlist some of my viewers to help me find a way to break casuality...
@theshambler6814
@theshambler6814 2 жыл бұрын
@@SH4D0W0733 pretty funny
@unexpected2475
@unexpected2475 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, he better make a main channel video about his pacifist run. It was absolutely incredible.
@H3Vtux
@H3Vtux 2 жыл бұрын
Okay tough guy, i've got some challenges for you: -Can you beat any of the campaigns without pressing the "attack move" key or using any groupings? -Can you beat any of the campaigns, but taking a half shot of 70 proof vodka after every mission? -Can you beat wings of liberty brutal without spending any credits or research points? -Can you beat any campaign using only your index finger from each hand? (Pinky allowed for grouping units) -Can you beat any two campaigns at the same time on casual? I love watching these playthroughs and hearing your commentary. The starcraft 2 campaigns bring me back in the best possible way.
@GiantGrantGames
@GiantGrantGames 2 жыл бұрын
I can one up you, here is all three campaigns at once on Normal (Started on Hard but it was too much) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJbPmaOli7Gmj5I And here is WoL No Research, No Lab, No Mercs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3mbh3mdqL-Snc0
@H3Vtux
@H3Vtux 2 жыл бұрын
@@GiantGrantGames You're a freakin legend man.
@MikMoen
@MikMoen 2 жыл бұрын
I've actually played SC1 and 2 before even realizing what an Attack Move was, nor ever used groups.
@ramzyzerhouni2227
@ramzyzerhouni2227 2 жыл бұрын
By the way the challenge of attack move can be replaced by PATROL Move which has the same effet overall
@Executor009
@Executor009 2 жыл бұрын
Im gonna guess the first one is actuallly how 80% of sc players do it.
@NimbleBard48
@NimbleBard48 2 жыл бұрын
15:04 "I send my factory on a sneak attack..." is a line I would never imagine to hear.
@Favmir
@Favmir 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you'd do something remotely sensible like only making new units and not new buildings, but this… you're a madman sir.
@soidz4569
@soidz4569 2 жыл бұрын
Omg these challenges are killing me. I used to go, "nah, there's no way you can get through this without losing a unit." or "It's impossible to go through all this with only zerglings." But at this point I can't even tell where the line is that somethings *does* become impossible. Next challenge it's gonna be "Can you beat >insert RTS< without playing it." On a more serious note, this is extremely impressive.
@genericyoutubecommenter589
@genericyoutubecommenter589 2 жыл бұрын
"GiantGrantGames uploaded: Can you beat Starcraft 2 Wings of Liberty with only SCVs?"
@deathblade2639
@deathblade2639 Жыл бұрын
The only impossible was zealots only
@norberthiz9318
@norberthiz9318 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you named zero hour "zero fun" in the time stamps :D
@hypers829
@hypers829 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized, that after playing this campaign several times, I never opted for the air version of All in, I didn't even know there was a leviathan, I just didn't want to deal with mutas and broodlords.
@lloydasaur5210
@lloydasaur5210 2 жыл бұрын
Aw yeah, this should be a fun one
@SmugLookingBarrel
@SmugLookingBarrel 2 жыл бұрын
I was kind of hoping for you to talk a whole bunch about how you needed 25 protoss research before the BC mission to get the Drop Pods and then realize that they're useless for this run.
@ralphwarom2514
@ralphwarom2514 2 жыл бұрын
Can we all just appreciate the fact that this game is so well designed / dynamic that it is even possible to do this kind of run. Also, your a mad man. My sanity would have been lost 5 runs ago XD. Good stuff.
@strangerakari2836
@strangerakari2836 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, "Sinister Turn" was something. I remember watching it in archives, so I thought it would be "mathematically impossible" as was concluded. Who would have thought that you just need to do some 5d chess to break that math of our boring realm into math of Grant-Is-Very-Cool realm.
@fraincross8644
@fraincross8644 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing unit die in the video just feels like this is a failed deathless run sometimes...
@Ghi102
@Ghi102 2 жыл бұрын
Now Grant has to do no build deathless!
@madmantheepic7278
@madmantheepic7278 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ghi102 woah woah, calm down Satan
@henrylaz8964
@henrylaz8964 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmantheepic7278 it might be possible on Casual. There is less unit variety and only 50% HP. The problem Grant faced on most difficult missions was that he lacked damage so the 50% HP penalty should help significantly.
@madmantheepic7278
@madmantheepic7278 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrylaz8964 you know what? Dude's done a blind run before, why not at this point lmaooo.
@theshambler6814
@theshambler6814 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ghi102 that would actually be easier to do than some of his other run attempts, this is the man who managed to make it all the way to all in as a pacifist.
@kennyrlarsen
@kennyrlarsen 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this run on the archives, and I didn’t know that you were eventually able to beat A Sinister Turn. Your commentary on that mission was fascinating. I wonder why they would make that mission first, especially since they knew that the first campaign would be a Terran-centered campaign. Was that mission just a software test which they eventually put into the game? Or did they plan the Zeratul plotline before making any other missions? I’d love to hear more about this.
@FiWe_Que
@FiWe_Que 2 жыл бұрын
Zeratul was meant to be main character of Lotv instead of Artanis
@PinnysVids
@PinnysVids 2 жыл бұрын
It could also be that they had a bunch of other missions done in Sinister Turns programming style, but threw them out the window because they had better ideas in the pipeline. Or this mission was the only one that was far enough into production to not re-do. Or this mission was expected to be simple enough that they should build it first. Or... well... I can keep going.
@artstsym
@artstsym 2 жыл бұрын
From a lore perspective, they knew they had to expand upon the hybrid after Brood War (where a secret mission teases them), so presumably this was made to test that using known quantities and without having to worry about creating new units for the player, seeing as this isn’t the Protoss campaign.
@BigBoneBusiness
@BigBoneBusiness 2 жыл бұрын
Do we know which race was finished first? That could explain why it's protoss on protoss, if terran and zerg hadn't been finalized yet. I've also always wondered why those protoss have that dark coloration which shows up nowhere else, I always thought it looked really interesting, like a proto-Tal'darim.
@kennyrlarsen
@kennyrlarsen 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigBoneBusiness If I remember correctly, they started by importing existing Brood War units for all three races. Marines, Battlecruisers, Zealots, Carriers, Zerglings, Mutalisks, and more were all present in very early builds of SC2. So they would have had prototype versions of each race which they could use to make maps. I'll have to do more research on this. Also, the skins are great. I'm pretty sure skins are purely aesthetic, so they wouldn't affect the core mission mechanics. For example, a skin wouldn't change the collision mechanics or anything like that.
@H3Vtux
@H3Vtux 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching these runs man. The creative solutions you come up with are great. I'm curious, do mules count as construction or an ability?
@Frank_144
@Frank_144 2 жыл бұрын
Ability, since they cost energy
@zarpedon1160
@zarpedon1160 2 жыл бұрын
@@Frank_144 But what about the planetary fortresses and orbital commands to make them? Not that I begrudge the fact they were built or does this in any way hurt the fact that it was a successful run. It's just the internet and discussion is fun
@Frank_144
@Frank_144 2 жыл бұрын
@@zarpedon1160 those are merely upgrades, my man. If it was me doing the run I would exclude calling mercenaries, since you don't need to build the mercenary compound, just call them.
@justincox8658
@justincox8658 2 жыл бұрын
ability.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
28:44 Imagine if you had C&C unit experience mechanics? The same ones copy of which were tested during development of SC2 and were later on given to coop commander version of Mengsk
@Caboose206
@Caboose206 2 жыл бұрын
Super pleasantly surprised that you made this into a main channel video! Wasn't sure what to expect after all the Deathless and Main Unit Only challenges. I watched a lot of this as VODs on the other channel, but wasn't expecting you to make it a main channel video. This video really reminds me why I love this style of edited content. Hearing the explanation of 'A Sinister Turn' was a fascinating experience, and something that can be easily missed amongst 8-12 hours of VODs. I have started watching a lot of your VODs on the other channel, and I don't plan to stop, but I will always be super excited for any main-channel video you post for all the fascinating insights you have about this game.
@judicatorhurayth1927
@judicatorhurayth1927 2 жыл бұрын
Now we're learning all the secrets of the game. Thanks, Giant Grant Game and his teams
@TheBlink2104
@TheBlink2104 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Grant. I've been watching your channel since HOTS Deathless and enjoying it so much I got into playing Starcraft Coop with a mate of mine. And your strategies and cheese have saved me during missions several times. Just the other night, I was playing A Sinister Turn and we were STUCK. Maar kept respawning too quickly and I broke my army on the enemy's main base. It looked like a reset, but I thought what would Grant do? So I pulled the boys, dodged Maar, rushed through the enemy base and parked them behind the Preservers. Then I did the same trick you did in this vid, taking down preservers with drones and then hiding from Maar.
@Blutwind
@Blutwind 2 жыл бұрын
Oddly enought that makes the whole thing more realistic because lets be honest building a tank at the frontline or training new recruits in the liddle of an active battlefield is not something you would normaly see
@fossilizedanimals5503
@fossilizedanimals5503 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh i mostly see it as the troops/tanks/etc being called to action. Putting on the armor. Checking systems. Since they wouldnt be ready instantly. Even in a war zone
@Draeckon
@Draeckon Жыл бұрын
@@fossilizedanimals5503 The books basically support this idea. I vividly remember the book focusing on the Rebel Yell evacuation mission, in which one of the scenes describes the interior of a CC full of unmanned SCV mechs waiting to be used. Likewise, all of the marines are shipped in advance with their gear mostly on-hand besides weapons and ammo. For the Zerg, they hide a lot of their forces underground in preparation for battles, and keep a bunch of eggs mostly matured, but not quite hatched until they're needed. The Protoss just warp in most of their forces from other locations, so similar to Terrans, with all of their units prepared in advance.
@grumpydoodle8455
@grumpydoodle8455 2 жыл бұрын
I've already watched the streams and vods of this but the video is still crazy. I'm amazed that a way to beat A Sinister Turn was actually found.
@zairaner1489
@zairaner1489 2 жыл бұрын
A sinister turn might be the craziest thing you have done, except maybe the blindfolded run. What the actual fuck. The entire segment I was just waiting for you to move on, and was confused why you would take so much time explaining why it didn't work, it should have been obvious with 6 probes..
@zerex8375
@zerex8375 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you figured out A Sinister Turn. It looked so obviously impossible that it is mind-blowing that you can do it.
@FalconPaladin
@FalconPaladin 2 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes, the way you and your community figured out how to beat A Sinister Turn is jaw dropping.
@Slimurgical
@Slimurgical 2 жыл бұрын
Why does it make me happy to know that not only did Davey Gunface do this first, but Grant decided to do it because the two talk and are friends. I feel like that's really sad that it makes me happy to know they're friends and likely toss ideas off one another, but I don't care, you did a great job here dude, I'm realyl unsure if I'd ever be able to do so myself. I could probly do a "no building additional structures" challenge but unsure about a "No building anything at all" challenge xD
@DonYagamoth
@DonYagamoth 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you did in fact produce something: An excellent video, showcasing a fascinating challenge :) Thank you, and I hope you have a great day ^^
@bisharp5068
@bisharp5068 2 жыл бұрын
This challenge is completely insane. Between beating a mission with literally 6 probes to using the AI’s complete map vision against itself. This takes a complete mastermind to pull off.
@eliaullerichs5511
@eliaullerichs5511 2 жыл бұрын
I like the structure and storytelling in this one
@73emilitus
@73emilitus 2 жыл бұрын
No fair, I have to study, oh well, my scores can wait another 30 minutes
@Ciggymunch
@Ciggymunch 2 жыл бұрын
Watched the VODs of this stream as they were released. You never fail to impress me, Grant. Good stuff.
@Zarincos
@Zarincos 2 жыл бұрын
This has got to be one of the more impressive challenges you've completed.
@baotranhoai4262
@baotranhoai4262 2 жыл бұрын
23:11 This is it. He finally said it.
@bluntlyhonest6803
@bluntlyhonest6803 2 жыл бұрын
GGG, I cant tell if you are a genious, a masochist, absolutely insane or all of the above.
@VGaz
@VGaz 2 жыл бұрын
all of the above i bet
@M0torsagmannen
@M0torsagmannen 2 жыл бұрын
watched this already in the archives, but it is such a crazy concept. take all the macro out of an RTS. love it though. such a good run
@RobotnikPlays
@RobotnikPlays 2 жыл бұрын
You managed to pull off A Sinister Turn!? Holy crap dude, well done!
@altonslayer
@altonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
now I know why that one viking in the cinematic thought he could take that ultra, he must've been one of those 140+ kill vikings from this campaign
@afm571
@afm571 2 жыл бұрын
I miss your stories about why your challenge exists in cannon. I liked learning that the mercenaries that Arthas hired went on to lead happy lives.
@jacobarrsa7981
@jacobarrsa7981 2 жыл бұрын
man beat sinister turn with 6 probes smh
@SirFishdude
@SirFishdude 2 жыл бұрын
And here I am dying on normal mode with building units. You sir are a legend
@mahersbenati
@mahersbenati 2 жыл бұрын
This is beyond amazing. I love it. Thank you for even thinking of the possibility of doing this!
@arc7878
@arc7878 2 жыл бұрын
last time i was this early my scvs haven't built anything
@marcofranck3014
@marcofranck3014 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video, always fun when you and the viewers come up with the insane strats. Btw I wish for more warcraft 3 content, though I do know that you are still a bit scarred after the no death run, but I hope you will return to it someday as long as you are having fun ofc.
@Cat_in_The-Box
@Cat_in_The-Box 2 жыл бұрын
He said that no one is watching wc3 so it's less likely to happen
@marcofranck3014
@marcofranck3014 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cat_in_The-Box damn thats too bad, but understandable
@shifrel12
@shifrel12 2 жыл бұрын
This is, strangely, a great guide to someone who is new to starcraft and struggling with the campaign. good work.
@forrestmillard2627
@forrestmillard2627 2 жыл бұрын
At this point you're becoming an expert on fighting Kerouac Kerrigan. You know what her abilities are at each stage, how her AI works, what her weaknesses are
@r8552
@r8552 2 жыл бұрын
I swear at some point he's gonna go like "can you beat starcraft without breathing"
@lucifersatan8240
@lucifersatan8240 2 жыл бұрын
Me who is suicidal: "I'm gona beat ya' to it."
@porovanrp
@porovanrp 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody: Dude, you've beaten this game like a joke. Can you just chill out and play as it was intended? GGG, doing another crazy run: I'LL FUCKING DO IT AGAIN
@vladislavkaras491
@vladislavkaras491 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this is really outstanding, how you beat the infestation, A Sinister Turn and the final mission,, especially vs. Leviathan. Those strategies are really on the next level! Plus, you know, I loved the part, of a bit of history, of SC2 script code ;P Plus, plus I especially love the those moments like fabric vs. firebat ;D
@Aslanyano
@Aslanyano 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I love Grand for! Absurd strategies and insane stubbornness Thanks for the work, dude:)
@QuanTrietLOL
@QuanTrietLOL 2 жыл бұрын
Without knowing what the heck is going on, I automatically assume this is gonna be fun
@Keln02
@Keln02 2 жыл бұрын
Can you beat SC2 without making us look like prehistoric monkeys?
@andrewdavis200
@andrewdavis200 2 жыл бұрын
I watched these vods and have been looking forward to this series to show up on the main channel! As always the production value is high and the stories of each run are so fun
@MFARIGA
@MFARIGA 2 жыл бұрын
Really crazy to see that something like that could be done. Thanks for the great content
@Somniac143
@Somniac143 2 жыл бұрын
Will there be other passes from the archives on the main channel?
@zaxtonhong3958
@zaxtonhong3958 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the main channel videos were originally archives videos.
@blazichaos7181
@blazichaos7181 2 жыл бұрын
The lost Vikings before: *Killed a guy named after a vegetable* The lost Vikings now: *Hero of the rebellion, slaughterer of infested*
@dresdenmini8586
@dresdenmini8586 Жыл бұрын
As always, Grant, the video is fantastic, and your tactics simply brilliant. I’m not sure a whole lot of other people could have had the patience to deal with that as you have and still come out loving the game as much. You and the community really have put the passion back into the SC2 campaign and I am incredibly grateful for that.
@lenkagamine4145
@lenkagamine4145 2 жыл бұрын
I love all these incredibly unique missions with four things around the map. Truly a masterclass of mission design.
@Vaush
@Vaush 2 жыл бұрын
This channel rocks
@ianwhelan-miller90
@ianwhelan-miller90 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of my favorite of your playthroughs! GG Grant!
@jarrakul
@jarrakul 2 жыл бұрын
Expertly done as usual, Grant. Frustrating as they are in the moment, I always enjoy your main-channel explanations of the hardest missions, and how you finally managed to find a way to beat them.
@HavannaIce
@HavannaIce 2 жыл бұрын
Wow insane commitment. Well done!
@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash 2 жыл бұрын
love your content general challenge runs are great alternatives to speedruns
@AtrociousNightmare
@AtrociousNightmare 2 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary in every possible way. You glorious madman. GG
@breathofire1449
@breathofire1449 2 ай бұрын
Matt: "What do you think, Sir? Quick smash and grab?" Jim: "We're gonna need more than a couple battlecruisers to blast our way through." GGG: Challenge accepted!
@iconoclastsc2
@iconoclastsc2 2 жыл бұрын
You did it again, man. I love it. An amazing run.
@warrenpons9128
@warrenpons9128 Жыл бұрын
At first, when I saw the title I was like : "Ok, so he only produces units from his initial building, that's a good challenge", and then I saw I was very far from that, and that's more amazing ! This is wonderful ! :)
@GreenCauldron08
@GreenCauldron08 10 ай бұрын
I didn't realize how much I enjoyed playing certain missions like this! Zero Hour, The Devil's Playground, Echoes of the Future, In Utter Darkness, Engine of Destruction, The Moebius Factor, and the Gates of Hell were always fun to play without making anything! (I mostly only played on normal difficulty, though)
@tumate45
@tumate45 2 жыл бұрын
I watch the archives so much, that I start to forget that this is the main channel :D
@skylerlewis1753
@skylerlewis1753 7 ай бұрын
I just came from your warcraft 3 deathless run videos, and have only just started this one, but your strategy in these games is surreal. its incredibly impressive.
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