Giants Brutal Week 2 Loss: Is the Season Over?

In this episode of Boomer & Gio, the guys react to the Giants' crushing 21-18 loss to the Washington Commanders. They discuss the bizarre coaching decisions, including Graham Gano's injury, the team's historically bad performance, and what the future holds for head coach Brian Daboll and GM Joe Schoen. Are the Giants already done for the season? Watch as Boomer and Gio break it all down.
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[@Standdividedfalltogether]

Irony - one team missing 3 point after attempt while other team kicks 7 FGs to win the game. Wtfffff

[@markmilitant]

Had all week to get a back up 😂 that’s a joke it’s like y’all know what to do don’t do it 💀

[@richruksenas5992]

Giants had no kicker..... Commanders didn't need a punter...

[@Standdividedfalltogether]

@@markmilitant must want that top draft pick. Well until week 10 when they will win 4-5 in row again and just make the seasons complete f’n waste again.

[@Lrobin0428]

I swear that we are cursed. When it comes to the Giants, “what can go wrong will go wrong”. The fact that Daboll didn’t bring in a second kicker or at least try it with the punter is ludicrous.

[@ChipsNCellos]

When will the misery end? What year can I come back to football and watch a competitive team??

[@Standdividedfalltogether]

2030 maybe. Gotta get a top pick then draft qb then raise him and let him have growing pains. And that’s only if the kid progresses which is 50/50. So maybe 2030.

[@ChipsNCellos]

@@Standdividedfalltogether No doubt :(

[@20Unknown]

That's one of the reasons I refuse to go to a game in person right now...

[@markh5268]

2-3 years after we get rid of ownership family members involved in player personnel and actually have someone on top w high football is that can put a process in place to scout actual talent that will pan out at the highest levels. Our team is filled w bottom rung players that won't even make the practice squad in other teams...

[@Standdividedfalltogether]

@@20Unknown pointless waste of money all to get pissed off. Naa I’m good

[@Landis_Grant]

Daboll’s cavalier behaviour begs to say he wants to be fired.

[@boricuacutta]

Completely agree. I believe he's been handcuffed and being tied to jones has completely turned him off from being the hc for this team

[@jqight740]

He’s fried. His blow up with Danial Jones after last season in the Seattle Seahawks game and his burning his bridge with Wink Martindale the Defense Coordinator where it almost got physical then it’s over for him. Very bad.

[@jameswoop8447]

Can't Daboll hire someone to dye his beard? He, literally, looks like a clown after this loss.

[@jameswoop8447]

Daboll's definitely handed in his proxy resignation. He looks apathetic.

[@AnthonyArgyros]

@@jameswoop8447he can ask Tommy Cutlets clown agent to help him out

[@jackcurvin9769]

I think the reason we've been in misery for 10 years is because Coughlin was the last proven coach we had everybody else that was their first job as a head coach

[@jackcurvin9769]

I think because they want a happy ending to the show LOL

[@riod7559]

It's because of John Mara....he was infatuated with Eli (after he declined) and now it's with Daniel Jones.

[@muzz1290]

not true. Pat Shurmur was head coach for the Browns before he got the Giants job

[@p00l95]

Daboll is horrible. He doesn't want to be here. It's so obvious. Get him out.

[@Chalk89]

@@muzz1290 Crazy looking back - Jones was moving the ball in that offense.

[@juanwilson2313]

John Mara needs to sell the team. The move to sign DJ and let SB go was because Mara said they didn't give DJ a fair shot and they in fact let him down. I'll say it because nobody else will....that's James Dolan level meddling....subtle but pervasive. Sell the damn team

[@BigClep1]

I agree but he's the owner, and he who writes the checks makes the rules

[@jqight740]

Jon Mara and Steve Tisch are not like their fathers. They must have been drinking with Woody Johnson and the Jets for far too long along with building Met Life Stadium which has cursed them and max them look like Jets light. Jezzz what a mess. Almost like Wilpon of the Mets. Very bad

[@jasonrivera8902]

Been saying this for years Maras meddling has cost this team immensely drafting saquon set the team back then they doubled down with the jones pick who everyone had as a 4th round pick Daboll and Schoen will likely be fired never having an opportunity to get there QB but at this point idk if it even matters giants have been a shit show

[@jameswoop8447]

No way Singletary replaces Saquon! What a bunch of dopes letting him go to the FN Eagles!

[@arcadeslum5882]

If my memory serves me correct Mr. Mara said something along the lines of Dabol was hired to fix Daniel.

[@bobtis]

Looks like wink was right

[@TommiBuford]

Schoen’s “rebuild” is a joke. Check his draft picks… how many are actually making a consistent impact, or even starting?

[@bobtis]

He stinks. He is a dud

[@Landis_Grant]

Blame it all on co-owner John Mara who has sullied his father Wellington’s legacy by destroying this once proud franchise. Silent co-owner Steve Tisch should be ashamed of himself for not stepping in for John Mara.

[@riod7559]

YES!!! 💯

[@p00l95]

Mara needs to sell the team

[@bobtis]

Tisch is in the movie business. Good for Kate

[@stevenmuriel4843]

He the reason we still have Daniel jones he didn’t let them do what they needed to do to get there quarterback

[@stevenmuriel4843]

This is all on Mara

[@AshyKnucks]

Gio: WHY do you like Joe Schoen? He's basically whiffed on most of all the big opportunities he's had. What is there to like about him? Neal, Thibodeaux, McKethan, Ezudu, Brian Burns with ZERO pressures and a $30 million annual contract. And the biggest whiff, he signed Jones and let Barkley go. What is there to like? He has been abysmal...

[@joeyj4511]

Was put in cap hell by gettleman banks looks like a future star this class is looking good dru, nubin signed Bobby O and first good oline in a decade

[@joeyj4511]

And nabers

[@ChocolateMilk1978]

@@joeyj4511he whiffed on every single pick he made his first two draft classes. Who misses on a #5 and #7 draft pick? He’s awful

[@joeyj4511]

@@ChocolateMilk1978 not every pick is going to pan out but in 2022 giants got wandale and McFadden and in 23 they got jms those players are going to be longer term belton is up for debate

[@AshyKnucks]

@@ChocolateMilk1978 Not to mention, he drafted Ezudu and McKethan, and also Beavers. 2/3 of them are no longer on the team. And everyone should draft a long-term role player (at the absolute worst) with a top ten pick. Whiffing on 2 top ten picks is abysmal.

[@analysis1957]

Washington scored on ALL seven possessions , they didn't punt. Only thing that keep the Giants in the game was all the penalties Washington took in the red zone.

[@ChocolateMilk1978]

And yet… ZERO touchdowns LOL

[@ChocolateMilk1978]

Nobodies impressed with the deadskins are doing

[@Mhoward1507]

Easily could of been 35-40pts

[@AnthonyArgyros]

@@ChocolateMilk1978rookie Quarterback and a lot of penalties. Washington will improve

[@louiegutierrez3237]

@@ChocolateMilk1978And yet… 21 points and a DUB LOL

[@Standdividedfalltogether]

Yes it’s over it was over before they even let saquan walk. Now it’s how high a draft pick for a qb can we get and how many years before that kids good. So maybe 2028-2030 we make the playoffs? Sounds like fun to me.

[@BitsToBytes92]

Stop buying ticket! Make metlife empty! Then they will actually care about being good.

[@davidterry8254]

That's what has to be done

[@Cha-y412]

You do realize that the Giants maketheir money on TV rights, not tickets

[@darioepifania1603]

The giants didn’t lose this game bc of a kicker. They lost because their defense couldn’t get off the field! Their offense was productive when actually allowed to play. If they could’ve stopped Washington TWICE with some 3 and outs, the game would’ve gone differently (also the singletary fumble was a back breaker)

[@humanbeing2420]

Or they lost the game because of the defense AND because they had no kicker? Why do so many fans think it must be either one or the other? There are often multiple reasons why something happens.

[@ChocolateMilk1978]

I mean, how bad could the defense have actually been if it didn’t allow any touchdowns? You’re just excuse making for the ineptitude of the coach and organization.

[@isaiah6132]

​@@ChocolateMilk1978they allowed like 3 or 4 3rd down and 13 (or more) conversions that would have gotten them off the field...with no pts scored. That's pretty bad!

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

I’m sure Wink is having a good laugh after all the crap the New York media piled on him for that whole mini saga of the post season.

[@HotDogWater289]

Losing in Michigan, I don't think he's laughing much buddy

[@ChocolateMilk1978]

@@HotDogWater289dude defend this crappy Giants organization all you want, but this defense is godawful and Wink would’ve made it at least slightly better.

[@MG-Nordster]

Boomer, if your kicker has a GROIN injury, it will affect his kicking. If Gano had a shoulder injury, instead, going into the game, then its a calculated risk, a GROIN injury HAS to affect him, and fact that he pulled a hamstring does NOT excuse the fact that the guy was hobbling the day before. How can he ever be forgiven for not having a different kicker. Joe Judge made more sense than Daboll.

[@whitelotus1594]

They had an open roster spot....that is why not bringing up another kicker was inexplicable...

[@p00l95]

It's Amazing how Daboll is not fired yet. This coach is so over his head it's unreal. Get him out!

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

Until John Mara actually goes to an outsider not named bill belicheck or any former giant player to find his new GM this cycle will continue. Stop hiring your friends and stop letting emotions cloud judgment. This organization has become irrelevant and the person to blame is John

[@HotDogWater289]

Joe schoen is literally what you're crying about. Schoen isnr and wasn't in Giants circle.

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

@@HotDogWater289 joe schoen branches from dave gettleman's tree

[@Chalk89]

@@pimpnamedslickback7780 That's categorically false. Joe Schoen was in Carolina six years before Dave G. arrived.

[@jacobball8422]

My dad and i were stunned watching the clock tick down to zero at the end of the game. Like.. looking at each other like how the hell did we lose that game. Just stunned

[@irishvirus8011]

I like Daboll, but no more OC turned HC. Please sign Vrabel or Bellichek

[@Rjm00]

Sad to say but the best thing for the giants is to lose a bunch of games and get a top 5 pick

[@karmic5783]

then draft a bust and then do it again then draft another bust and then do it again

[@markmatulic9905]

​@@karmic5783yes

[@davidlinehat4657]

@@karmic5783 as a Washington fan, I fully support this proposition

[@navaronehartman8880]

I'd rather build a decent team getting a consistent 8-9 wins or a wildcard appearance and then trade up to get the QB personally

[@humanbeing2420]

And there is a 50-50 chance of drafting a total bust.

[@CraigMaione-q5i]

Not even October, it's not even week 3 Gio. Panthers vs. Giants might end football in Germany it might be so bad.

[@samhayeck5502]

It's painfully obvious Daboll, Schoen, and Jones are not the answer and need to go. The team for the most part is made up of Underachievers in subpar players. John Mara is a disaster as an owner, you should do the fans a favor and sell the team

[@jamesshipp8422]

Hell yes, the only thing the giants will protect and have success is going to McDonald's for cheeseburger.

[@StevenEvens7125]

APB out on Daniel Belenger and Jalin Hyatt!!! Helloooooooo?!!

[@johnknowles6711]

The season was over before it started.

[@ejgonzalez2313]

Daboll dropped the ball on this one. No excuses!!!

[@hollywoodcruzVideo]

Look, Daniel Jones hasn't thrown a TD in 9 games against Washington, and he did it again against Washington! So he looks great against 💩 and we are giving him credit, and he does shit good teams. The giants should have blown them out. We LOST to 7 field goals! We have a coach that makes stupid decisions and a GM that comes from carolina and brings in carolina shity players. We are not in a rebuilding stage. That ship has sailed. The worst part that came out of NY was that horrible hard knocks off season special on max and the stupid decisions that came from there.

[@knickbockerz7536]

Lolol

[@hollywoodcruzVideo]

@@knickbockerz7536 am I wrong?

[@markmatulic9905]

The season was over after preseason game 2

[@beadyone85]

This is the second time daboll has listened to gano and trusted his wrong opinion on his own health. Both should be sacked for ignorance

[@johnpandolfino8663]

I said that last week....it's only going to get worse every week moving forward.....who goes into a divisional game with no backup kicker.....they suck from the top down ...

[@dabronxguru1824]

The coaches and front office are no good! The only successful year was due to Barkley playing high level and they let the guy go. Gave Jones a crazy contract when they could have picked up the fifth year. Yesterday had one roster spot open and don’t bring on an extra kicker. Yet kicker is injured and you have him kicking the ball off😂😂 save him for field goals and extra points! Washington actually cut their kicker and brought in a new one who won the tactical game.

[@HungLe-ih8yk]

Please hire Bill Belichick and go from there. He's the Giants' product who can rescue the Giants.

[@HotDogWater289]

He's a defensive guru. Not a great head coach. It's evidence by how terrible his rosters have always been as a gm. He rode Tom Brady's coat tail

[@brianp2845]

Yes, the answer is Yes. Clean house at end of year, hire Belechick and get this franchise fixed.

[@AnthonyArgyros]

He didn’t win much in Cleveland and then his final 4 seasons in New England. It was more Brady than Coach B

[@brianp2845]

@@AnthonyArgyros Understood but most dudes including Bill Walsh have either good or great quarterbacks. Nobody wins in NFL with bad QB play (look at us with Danny Dimes) The guy won six super bowls and ran an organization for 20 years. Schoen on Hard Knocks was like amateur hour. I think the team needs a total tear down and why not get the best Coach/GM of all time. He also helped contribute to two Giants super bowls and likes the organization.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

I’m surprised Gio didn’t have any comments on the team he’s disowned in the Vikings kicking the shit outta the 49ers. You know; the same 49ers everyone in jets lands were preaching as the greatest team assembled since the legion of boom.

[@p00l95]

24-17 is kicking the shit outta them? Lol they barely won.

[@Chalk89]

@@p00l95 The Vikings were up 20-7 heading into Q4 - all things considered, they kicked their ass for three quarters.

[@p00l95]

@@Chalk89 and SF didn't have CMC.

[@Chalk89]

@@p00l95 The Vikings had Sam Darnold at QB - I think that's a fair trade-off.

[@richrucci6908]

Seriously looking like worst team/franchise in the league, #1 overall pick next year. Little Mara & Tisch suck!!!!

[@bobbyjames910]

Selecting Nabers in the draft was as layup pick that anyone of us would have made. Schoen gets credit for applying the easy button on this one.

[@analysis1957]

11 days into the season and it is over, feels like a record. After these first two season starts and yesterday's kicking decision, the tag I would put on Daboll is unprepared. He would be better off being an OC.

[@alexanderi2020]

Been telling you this team has been poorly coached since last year, DJ and the team has partly suffered injuries because of the coach which is unacceptable

[@BrokenToyTCG]

Why is Graham Gano tryna chase a running back? Gano you know how important you are what the hell were you thinking

[@donnellf8621]

The difference a kicker makes...They made 7 n we didn't even have a kicker to give us a chance period.

[@OZWizard]

Does anyone know why a punter who kicks the ball for a living cannot make a field goal if needed? is it a contract issue, if you kick the ball why don't they have the punter practice field goals should they be needed in an emergency? It's not like a player playing offense and defense, a punter should be able to kick a 35-yard field goal for God sake.

[@humanbeing2420]

He had the distance on that PA he missed wide right. There was no reason not to give him a shot to kick the go ahead FG from the same distance at the end of the game instead of going for it on 4th down. But Daboll is an idiot.

[@johnf7683]

The problem was the holder. The holder didn't spin the ball properly so the kick was on the laces, which makes missing easier.

[@NandoAraujo-SpiritualGuide]

NO WORDS 😢

[@shortaybrown]

It great you put this online! Thanks!

[@maoinc13]

Coaching staff sucks

[@ChillSeaGoat]

The NY Smurfs there’s no Giants to be seen this team needs everything!

[@ejgonzalez2313]

Shows you how nonchalant Daboll is about coaching the Giants. Gano has had an injury history since last year. Should have a backup kicker or practicing squad kicker active just in case. Daboll was thinking like " what the heck. "

[@davidlinehat4657]

only new yorkers would be conceited enough to think that they should be favored to a team that put up 400 total yards of offense against them

[@ChocolateMilk1978]

How are we conceited when the shitty redskins couldn’t even score a touchdown? They’re almost as pathetic as the Giants are

[@QUNYC7]

Hire Bill Belichick immediately!

[@rstevens1836]

GIO: "GOOOOOOOOD Monday Morning!" GIANTS FANS TODAY: "EAT ME GIO!"

[@robertkleinschmidt1029]

This is the worst era of Giants football in their history. The way they find ways to lose you just never see it.

[@michaelmadison8416]

We haven’t even heard of a players only meeting so idk what to think of the morale between players and coaches… it may be on thin ice

[@anthonycaniano9892]

Daboll looks done. Not having a kicker when the Giants can only win a close game is just nuts. I also didn't like replacing Wink with a bend but don't break DC who is fine with giving up first downs on 3rd and 10 all day long as long as they don't get beat deep. Bring back B.B. in 2025, I have had it with first time head coaches.

[@MidtownMeezus]

We win by 14 with Saquon on this team

[@TommiBuford]

Pathetic! This Schoen/Daboll regime is a flipping clown show… amateur time. Mara and Tisch need to hire a REAL head coach and a REAL general manager, not protégés of real coaches/general managers.

[@JumpingJack6]

Not being a Giants fan, actually quote apathetic.... but if you watch Vic Dibitetto and his NY Giants skits .... LOL LOL .... I love when the Giants lose just to listen to him react. HILARIOUS!

[@IRVSMITH1]

The Giants are the reason I started watching CFL games several years ago.

[@jameslocopo4742]

I started watching the CFL this summer and I am really liking it a lot

[@IRVSMITH1]

@@jameslocopo4742 I like the fast pace and a lot less penalties called. Friday and Saturday games are nice to have.

[@jameslocopo4742]

@@IRVSMITH1 I now kinda wish that the US teams experiencing mental from the 90’s would have stuck around

[@IRVSMITH1]

@jameslocopo4742 I know. It would be awesome if they reestablish a US division.

[@jackfollansbee168]

Why don’t we open with the other team in town who won a game yesterday?

[@antoniorod6689]

Jets are always little brother in NY little man

[@marklabonte2925]

There has been 1000’s of times the Jets losing was the opening discussion while the Giants had a pretty standard win. It’s not a big deal. -Jets Fan

[@thomasking4031]

Season over? What were we expecting? If this means the season is over then the season was over before the first game even started.

[@TheCrazyeyeskillah]

They should clean house after this season. Shoen is bad. Daboll was not made for a HC job. Bowen seems to only know how to design red zone stops. In all fairness, the Giants have had a few years of constantly giving up 3rd and longs. Doesn’t matter. Still have to clean house. If they’re in the hunt for a QB come draft day, it better not be this crew making the picks.

[@Blindniko]

Didn't the Giants start 0-2 one year and went to the superbowl

[@samhayeck5502]

Not happening this year with this team.

[@Chalk89]

They did. Gave up 80 points in first two weeks then rattled off six straight wins.

[@ChocolateMilk1978]

It’s laughable if you’re comparing the 2007 team to this shitshow.

[@marcusgilmore5211]

Phil Simms is the first NFL quarterback to ever go for 4000 yards just not the Giants…

[@ChocolateMilk1978]

I don’t trust bald coaches.

[@riod7559]

MARA is the Problem. It starts at the top. The focus and Pressure needs to be on Mara.

[@ilovenyiloveny1140]

I feel for you as a Jets fan where last year the Jets were hemorrhaging and the owner, the GM and the coach did nothing to stop it. It was not fair to the fans and the players.

[@Anthony2X19]

The Giants lack identity. We last had that with TC. The next coach that comes in has to get the time to develop a culture.

[@shernigz]

None of that is an excuse. Daboll should've been prepared and had a back up just in case. This team is horrible and no accountability. Jones is a horrible QB. The defense should've never let them get into field goal range. That's unacceptable.

[@matthewgreaux91352]

In the last 10 years, how many years have the Giants started 0-2?? I’d bet at least 7.

[@liffjm]

Daboll is looking more and more like an OC only. Having a competitive kicker is just as important as your offensive scheme. And that's aside from the point that he was too much of an asshole to work with his defensive coordinator

[@marcusmiller7138]

Imo the Slayton drop was much more egregious than Nabers' drop. That conversion means Commanders gotta score a TD, instead its a 3 point game.

[@ts9576]

It's 2024, no one wants audio clips on KZbin. Get with the times guys.

[@jenniferlockett8137]

Daboll and Schoen need to go. They are smug and have been awful for us!!

[@Straybullet82]

NYG football - Season is over by October

[@paulmysliborski4832]

September

[@ChocolateMilk1978]

August

[@davidterry8254]

Stop buying tickets, jerseys, and merchandise because right now it's the fans paying DJ 40 million a year to suck. Put that on Mara!

[@sparkz2718]

Doesn’t feel like every time giants opponents are 3rd and long a giant will always save them with a penalty or a missed tackle. Literally every time. Its as if they play hard for 2 snaps and say yea theres no way they get a first and just lose their motor.

[@gravy0038]

Somewhere Tom Coughlin is laughing his a** off 😂🤦‍♂️

[@sk8r1049]

Any giants fan that thought we'd be anything short of dogcrap is delusion.. losing Saquon & Xavier Mckinney were Huge losses

[@brettrobertson2538]

he should never have been kicking the ball on kickoff. that was his big mistake

[@bobtis]

He does answer back. John seems like a good man but this is not fair. To 😢he fans and players

[@laxmantc77]

Is the season over?…when were we ever contenders? Lol

[@cribsandribs]

The season was over last week. If we beat Carlolina we’ll finish 1-16

[@markmilitant]

Bad luck 😂😂😂 fire the mothfkin whole GM mgmt coach how u have a whole week to get a back up kicker came in with 52men whatf

[@thereandbackagainhv]

When will the misery end…….everyone……when Mara sells the fucking team

[@CynthiaGeorgette]

Another bad season for the Giants…. While I enjoy this podcast with these two, it’s unfortunate that neither of you are fans of NY teams in a NY market with which I think should be a requirement. That’s why I’ll listen to Tiki all day long bc misery loves company and we talk each other through the tough times bc Tiki is a fan and so are the many podcasters I listen to. Have a nice season guys.

[@GQ-ik7tr]

Every Sunday, I sit at home in wait of misery.

[@N4divers]

Daboll is garbage, Schoen is an idiot, and Daniel Jones played alright but he’s not the answer. He can’t elevate the team nor throw it to Nabers all day to save him.

[@johnf4607]

How about we get an actual head coach…one who has proven himself as a head coach…NOT a fake head coach who has no previous experience being one (eg, Macadoo, Judge, shurmer, Daboll).

[@ChrisCash720]

Kickers are underpaid. They're winning every game

[@eddieleitula9747]

Another year of losses coming. No accountability, no leadership, talent depleted morale destroyed....and the fans who come in sunday day in and out they have to watch the Giants lose every single sunday.

[@davehaller6477]

NY Giants are tanking the season for a QB in the 2025 draft.

[@rawbrob1079]

The season isn't over it's only two games. But it doesn't look good and I'm losing all faith in Brian Daboll for sure.

[@BobsledTime]

The players who have already made a crap ton of money have no incentive to play hard because they are not buying in. Only the players who are trying to earn a contract are playing hard, and a number of those players just are not any good. The Giants need an inspiring leader. They can go the route of a hardass Belichick, though I don't know if the players will respond well to that. And enough of this BS strategy of recycling coordinators to be the next Giants HC. I'd say try to get a successful college head coach.

[@daboiwonder212]

Are we Giants fan going to wear brown paper bags now ?

[@ShadowFalcon19]

Either the Giants TANK FOR #1 ELITE QB PICK IN THE 2025 DRAFT OR MARA MUST SELL THE TEAM AND START OVER!

[@starlinpena4943]

When and if the guants go 0 and 6 thats when the season is over Im not panicking at all But it aint looking pretty The season is 17 games long not 2

[@bb-gc2tx]

fire the coach bring in bellichick now

[@the_kwiet_storm]

The Giants need to hire Leon Rose and Worldwide West.

[@SonGokuSann]

It's over for them. Draft a QB and fire coach and get Bill

[@lesmesromero3585]

Bill ain't going to turn anything around, he's retired and will stay retired!

[@tonypiper7932]

Fire the GM FIRST!!! Terrible!

[@bobbyw1074]

Joe schoen does not want billl. He wants someone he has control over.

[@TFH15]

Yea, no thanks to Bill

[@jaybird8192]

Don't know why everybody is so infatuated with 72 year old Belichick coming to the Giants! Unless Tom Brady comes along with him, what will he accomplish or has accomplished without him??? Do you know he's 84-103 without Tom???

[@mikegreen3613]

I would honestly hate being a family member of these guys with cancer. There is never any hope.