Giants Have Crucial Decisions To Make On 2022 First Round Picks | Free Agency Preview

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@rodericklewis5600
@rodericklewis5600 8 күн бұрын
Not moving Evan Neal around and finding his strength would bite them again when he goes to another team a plays solid that's why I'm ready to move on to this regime cause they don't know how to get the best out these players....
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 8 күн бұрын
If they let Slayton go we have no second receiver. Nabers and no one. Slayton is a 1000 yard receiver with a real quarterback.
@vidowatcher91
@vidowatcher91 8 күн бұрын
They were discussing that in the second round. I want to sign Tee Higgins then go let Slayton have a great second half of his career with Joe Burrow and Chase. Trade WR2s. That's what I'd do in Madden anyway. Idk how to GM.
@Mato-x6g
@Mato-x6g 8 күн бұрын
Hyatt is the #2 wr
@HungDaveNYG
@HungDaveNYG 8 күн бұрын
Hyatt hasnt done anything to deserve the number 2 spot. ​@Mato-x6g
@juliusjean-baptiste924
@juliusjean-baptiste924 8 күн бұрын
@@Mato-x6gI doubt it cuz if he was he would’ve gotten more snaps and moved up the charts and push Slayton down.
@wodytynan
@wodytynan 8 күн бұрын
@@Mato-x6gHyatt?! 🤣 you’re kidding right?
@jayarah1046
@jayarah1046 8 күн бұрын
At certain points Alex u jus talk to talk n make no sense
@firesidegiants
@firesidegiants 8 күн бұрын
thank you for the kind words
@MartialFit50
@MartialFit50 8 күн бұрын
Sport entertainment. It’s what the media is supposed to do.
@MartialFit50
@MartialFit50 8 күн бұрын
And let’s see if we can get Tommy Devito’s clown agent to wear a Notre Dame uniform with golden helmet for final home game and lead the team onto the field with the ‘Rudy’ soundtrack playing. I mean, we ALL bought it last year and this year , but reality says Cutlets won’t be a Giant next season.
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 5 күн бұрын
He needs to get public speaking training.
@azikkii
@azikkii 8 күн бұрын
Getting rid of great players/leaders and replacing them with draft picks is not a recipe for success. You keep good players and build depth through drafting BPA and you fill remaining holes through free agency. Meaning you KEEP Saquon and draft Tracy. You KEEP McKinney and draft Nubin. If you’re keeping Daniel Jones who EVERYONE was unsure of, you draft a QB. You KEEP Leonard Williams and draft a DT. That’s how you build depth. As far as Slayton goes, he doesn’t fall into the category of great player and IS the depth piece. There’s benefit there but Slayton deserves to go to a better team at this point.
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 5 күн бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more and couldn’t have said it better
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 13 сағат бұрын
Saquon could have been running like a champ if we had any kind of blocking. Look what he's doing in Philly! I'm glad he's finally having some success.
@andrewr7395
@andrewr7395 6 күн бұрын
Your best podcasts are when you do these breakdowns. Something Alex said about adding experience, especially when it comes to O line and defensive is crucial. Regardless of who the GM is next season, at least we will have cap space to work with. Speaking of, firing Daboll and keeping Schoen is a bad idea. Either both both go or they both stay. We already know how keeping a GM and firing a coach usually works out.
@richmulv
@richmulv 7 күн бұрын
Daboll is the problem. He was unable to get along with Wink Martindale the first warning sign and he undermined his offensive coordinator Mike Kafka who made good play calls in the season they made the playoffs with DJ. Daboll's play calling was disastrous and he stole the play calling from Kafka. Schoen has drafted adequately. He is a bright guy and is capable of turning things around. A good choice for HC would be Joe Brady currently OC with the Bills. BTW it was Josh Allen who made Daboll look good not Daboll making Josh Allen look good.
@boki1693
@boki1693 6 күн бұрын
How can you say Schoen has drafter adequately? He had drafted horribly. He has had 3 years "to turn it around" and our roster is way worse than when he took over. Both need to go.
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 5 күн бұрын
Daboll and Schoen are both living off the coat tails of Buffalos unicorn pick of Josh Allan. Daboll had his chance to be a QB whisperer with Jones, Lock and DeVito. I’m not saying any of them are any good but did they get measurably better under the whisperer. Not to mention neither one of them chose to whisper to Nix, Penix or McCarthy.
@jankyboi5484
@jankyboi5484 7 күн бұрын
Great insight as always
@JDVBB8
@JDVBB8 8 күн бұрын
Love the content guys. One of the few rays of hope in this dire time but at least the offseason will be fun. Agree that we need a bridge QB, Fields or Winston
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 6 күн бұрын
Wilson isn’t going anywhere. He’s got Pittsburg in first place. Fields is a chance but I don’t know how many decent quarterbacks want to come to a 2 and 15 team. Especially knowing after 1 year max they are out because we drafted Ward or Sanders. We will have to vastly overpay.
@JDVBB8
@JDVBB8 6 күн бұрын
@ I said Winston, as in Jameis Winston from the Browns. I didn’t say Russell Wilson
@darrengale4429
@darrengale4429 8 күн бұрын
Offensive lineman should be drafted high every draft, tired of the musical chairs across the line.
@user-nj1zu2nf1x
@user-nj1zu2nf1x 8 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure I remember the next three out of 5 pics after neighbors were offensive lineman. These guys are clueless.
@CarmeloJaimenje
@CarmeloJaimenje 7 күн бұрын
What's up fellas!!!!!
@hard2fathom1
@hard2fathom1 8 күн бұрын
The Giants have been criticized for letting good players walk in past offseasons only to see them shine elsewhere. It seems to me that letting Slayton walk would just be another example of this. Of course, I can't blame him for wanting to leave considering how he has been treated. Get him a good QB and he will be a solid receiver on another team.
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 8 күн бұрын
😅 Agree
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 8 күн бұрын
Your logic is 100 percent true. But Slaytons time in NY has run its course.
@hard2fathom1
@hard2fathom1 8 күн бұрын
@@TrollKing2781 you're probably right, and it's sad because I remember him as a rookie catching touchdowns from Eli thinking we had stolen a player in the 5th round. But the Giants don't know how to treat their guys.
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 8 күн бұрын
@@hard2fathom1 Slaytons time in NY will probably be remembered most for his drops. But will go overlooked was him still averaging about 700 yards a season with a bottom 10 QB for his entire time in a giants uniform.
@sammymac33
@sammymac33 8 күн бұрын
As an Ole Miss fan I would absolutely LOVE to see Tre Harris on this team!
@jayarah1046
@jayarah1046 8 күн бұрын
Tim boyles is pretty good as backup
@MartialFit50
@MartialFit50 8 күн бұрын
He’s better than Tommy Parmigiana Cutlets
@jameshollister8294
@jameshollister8294 8 күн бұрын
Im not drafting a wr in 2nd im getting dt or oline
@isaacgcomedy
@isaacgcomedy 8 күн бұрын
The Kayvon justification for a 5th year option sounds like how we ended up with jones for 6 years, I know its not QB so its different but why should we expect growth from him if we havent seen it in other players
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 5 күн бұрын
When it comes to KT, two thoughts; Schoen has to pick up the option. How can he not pick up the options on both Neal and Kenyon. He would look like an idiot for two 1st round busts. Second, the option is $16 million. That’s a lot in my checkbook, but not in the NFL. The best option is to fire both Schoen and Daboll and let someone else make the decision.
@isaacgcomedy
@isaacgcomedy 5 күн бұрын
@@JohnFerraro-l9b agreed with letting someone else make the decision
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 14 сағат бұрын
They have a decent start to a good defense. They NEVER have a good offense.
@isaacgcomedy
@isaacgcomedy 13 сағат бұрын
@@thelakeman5207 defense has gotten worse every year since daboll became coach
@JamesStein-zq1cv
@JamesStein-zq1cv 8 күн бұрын
THE GIANTS NEED TO DRAFT A TOP QB WHO CAN RISE THE LEVEL of the TEAM TO A PLAYOFF ONE AND MAKE OUR PLAYERS BETTER TOO WE NEED A GM AND HC WHO CAN BUILD A WINNING TEAM/PRODUCT ON THE FIELD AND BUILD A CULTURE THAT MAKES IT HAPPENS THAT WAY!!
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 2 күн бұрын
If they lose the #1 pick, I'm done with this team. Been a fan since 1958.
@josephgrosso2943
@josephgrosso2943 8 күн бұрын
You can't go into a round of the draft 'looking for a receiver.' can't draft straight for need. Have to take best player available, especially with a roster that sucks this bad
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 14 сағат бұрын
They picked Daniel Jones and left Nick Bosa and Micah Parsons on the board.
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 6 күн бұрын
As far as Schoen goes, since the second half of 22 we are 2-5-1, 6-11 and probably 2-15. This in the third year 9f a “rebuild”. He doubled and tripled down on Jones. He took us into 24 with a quarterback room that was an absolute joke. Jones, (a year after an ACL tear)Lock, and DeVito, and now Boyle. He preaches rebuild while at the same time tries to win now by wasting draft capital and money on guys like Burns and the Las VEGAS tight end whose name I have already forgotten. W something (lol). His drafts have been terrible. What are we even talking about.
@VinceG18
@VinceG18 5 күн бұрын
I still think Isiah Hodgins should get way more playing time and targets.
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 8 күн бұрын
KT is still living off his college/draft reputation. If his name was Joe Blow you would never give him $16 million.
@SupeerrV
@SupeerrV 8 күн бұрын
No way do we need a receiver in the 2nd round. How many receivers are we gonna draft?! Wandale, Hyatt, Nabers…time to address other needs. We need cb, o line or d line help in the 2nd round. Those are much bigger needs for us than wide receiver. Bad take imo.
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 5 күн бұрын
The Giants first have to find a new GM and Head Coach. Then get a new QB in the draft and then sell Evan Neal at a discount price.
@deanedmund7843
@deanedmund7843 8 күн бұрын
So NY is tanking I’m taking out a second mortgage on my home and betting against the Giants the next 3 games. Easy money
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 8 күн бұрын
They need to draft a receiver or get a free agent even if Slayton stays.
@andrewr7395
@andrewr7395 6 күн бұрын
This is what your podcast does best. Slayton, great guy, but it’s time to go. Fields or Winston would be perfect in the back up QB roll. Regarding. D line, we know Ojulari’s talent, but the injury factor is too much of a headache. I did find it interesting when Chase Young’s name came up. It made me think back to 2019 when everyone knew he was going to be the number to pick out of the draft, and we all know how that’s worked out.
@MartialFit50
@MartialFit50 8 күн бұрын
Colts game will be Devito’s last home game as a Giant in all likelihood. So, let’s have his agent wear a Notre Dame uniform, and lead the team out onto the field with the ‘Rudy’ soundtrack playing. Why not ? It’s Sport Entertainment now
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 14 сағат бұрын
Like to see the Giants acquire a new back up QB for next year. Andy Dalton? Tyrod Taylor? Huntley from the Ravens? Any rookie QB is going to need a veteran to take him under their wing and show him the ropes.
@AnthonyArgyros
@AnthonyArgyros 12 сағат бұрын
@@thelakeman5207I agree. How about Joe Flacco (Super Bowl champion and cannon arm) or Carson Wentz? What if Vikings release Darnold (not a wise choice) ? A good veteran, draft a rookie QB and keep Lock or Boyle as 3rd string Devito and his agent played their NJ angle out. Time to release that game
@Cammdontjamm1
@Cammdontjamm1 8 күн бұрын
Why do we complain about depth and yet want to get rid of the depth we do have
@azikkii
@azikkii 8 күн бұрын
This
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 8 күн бұрын
What depth do the giants have.
@Cammdontjamm1
@Cammdontjamm1 8 күн бұрын
@ I’m referring to azeez that’s depth same for pinnock slayton Simmons I’m not getting rid of decent players for 6th round picks just to miss on those said picks none of those players cost much obviously slayton won’t be back but the rest are depth pieces the team just sucks so they forced into roles they shouldn’t be in
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 8 күн бұрын
​@@Cammdontjamm1 Only 1 worth keeping is Slayton. I'm thinking he wants out. I would if I was him. Azeez, Pinnock & Simmons can all kick rocks. Unless they accept the vet minimums.
@Cammdontjamm1
@Cammdontjamm1 8 күн бұрын
@trollking2781 I’m not spending money on slayton even if he did want to come back he’s a wr3 or 4 on other teams we have him at wr2 he’s serviceable but I think we can upgrade for the low yes I would want simmons azeez and pinnock back but all these players are replaceable for sure but we are fans of the giants and they don’t really do anything right so we just gotta be ready to be ass for the next 30 years
@adrianwebb6117
@adrianwebb6117 8 күн бұрын
Hope we keep Simmons. Like him best as a WOLB and rotational speed edge rusher
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 8 күн бұрын
How many sacks does that "speed edge rusher" have while in NY.
@adrianwebb6117
@adrianwebb6117 7 күн бұрын
@TrollKing2781 thats what im getting at. I think theyve mis-used him. Focus him in on one position. Hes got the speed to cover TEs and the speed, and length to be a decent rotational player at edge. Like 3rd and long, play a Nascar package with him at edge Thibs and Dexter in the middle and Burns on the other side.
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 6 күн бұрын
He is not big enough to be a full time LB. He never could get to the passer. Two teams have now tried to find a place for him and failed. Sadly, he is just another first round bust who will spend his career as a backup.
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 6 күн бұрын
​@@JohnFerraro-l9b Simmons will be out of the NFL in a year or 2. He's just a fast guy masquerading as a football player.
@VinceG18
@VinceG18 5 күн бұрын
Slayton agrees to a deal well below his market value. Jalen hyatt seems like he’s going to be a disappointment.
@Wheels84ss
@Wheels84ss 8 күн бұрын
Ok I have to say this because the Ojulari defense is so wrong. The guys has not played a full season and sucks against the run. The idea of him being a couple big plays for cheap is a failure. We constantly talk about depth yet you want our depth to be something that constantly breaks and when we actually need depth he isn't available. So then we are either hunting the streets again or starting guys off the practice squad. Starters can be the occasional big play, depth needs to be consistently reliable. I would keep Simmons and use him as a backup edge before bringing back Ojulari because he will be on the field. Plus his use as the slot shows he does more against the run. Neither is a great option but when you're talking depth availability is much more then 2 sacks in 1 game then a trip to the ir for the next 6. KTs option I agree we keep and get an actual DC who can actually use him. Hell hes big enough to use him as DE next to Lawrence on the regular and find a solid lb to replace him.
@gmanhirt8818
@gmanhirt8818 8 күн бұрын
trade them and anyone else that other teams might be interested in accumulate as many picks as you can get and release everyone else 2025 the team should have between 17 and 20 draft picks
@flyguyjoey
@flyguyjoey 7 күн бұрын
If we want to keep nabers from going to Washington we need to draft Kyren lacy from lsu, if lacy ends up in Washington it’s over you can kiss Malik goodbye
@pariswilson6365
@pariswilson6365 7 күн бұрын
The team is 2-12 wtf do you mean slayton took a step back the whole team is weak....
@CarmeloJaimenje
@CarmeloJaimenje 7 күн бұрын
Give Drew Lock the boot he always gets hurt fast
@Nick-fc9xy
@Nick-fc9xy 8 күн бұрын
Defending Evan Neal makes me actually dislike you.
@JDVBB8
@JDVBB8 8 күн бұрын
I don’t want Slayton back. We need to start let go of guys like him from the Gettleman era who are used to losing and have accepted being mediocre
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 8 күн бұрын
So Joe Shames players are accustomed to winning.
@JDVBB8
@JDVBB8 8 күн бұрын
@ not the point I was trying to make but ok.
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 8 күн бұрын
I am a Slayton fan but when it comes to guys like Ojulari and Simmons have we lowered the bar so much that we talk about mediocrity as if it is acceptable. Let them go and try to find players who are better.
@gregl.4688
@gregl.4688 8 күн бұрын
Ojulari is far from mediocre, his problem is he can't stay healthy. We are a bottom of the league roster so decent is what we should aim to fill out the roster both players are serviceable.
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 8 күн бұрын
​@@gregl.4688 Did you just call Simmons serviceable.
@JohnFerraro-l9b
@JohnFerraro-l9b 7 күн бұрын
@@gregl.4688a late return message. I agree with you on AO. But every time he touches the field he winds up on IR, so what’s the point. Keep him, pay him, and hope he doesn’t get hurt?
@justcrazydeafrow
@justcrazydeafrow 8 күн бұрын
My Question Shane Bowen Should Be Fired After This Season Chemistry 🧪 He Don’t Have That Vibe With Players & That No Good… And I Hope Antonio Pierce Get Fired From Raiders And Come Home To NY Giants Become DC/Assist HC It Perfectly Fitted Deal… Shane Bowen Need To Go 💯👍🏽
@user-nj1zu2nf1x
@user-nj1zu2nf1x 8 күн бұрын
Why the hell are you guys talking about drafting receivers and all these other positions when the offensive and defensive lines are hot garbage? Learned absolutely nothing from the last decade I see😊
@DEILLANYG
@DEILLANYG 8 күн бұрын
This is a very weak wr class. Even the guys at the top of the list at that position aren't much.
@marcusromero8386
@marcusromero8386 8 күн бұрын
Imagine we sign tee and draft ward
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 8 күн бұрын
Giants ain't signing no damn Tee.
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