Giants Land STUD Pass Rusher 3rd overall in Interesting Mock Draft | Analysis

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Anthony and Alex discuss a three-round mock draft for the New York Giants centered around Penn State EDGE Abdul Carter.
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@jimgorman3600
@jimgorman3600 8 күн бұрын
Eagles fan who took a wrong turn, but I listened to you guys for a while and found your analysis of several potential draftees spot on. Subscribed and will take a look at a few of your prior videos. Always thirsting for any football discussion platforms regardless of team.
@firesidegiants
@firesidegiants 8 күн бұрын
damn you're in enemy territory haha enjoy our lost treasure :(
@reconwardog772
@reconwardog772 8 күн бұрын
Our last two Super Bowls that the Giants have won we had triple threat edge rushers. Strahan, Tuck, Osi and Tuck, Osi, and JPP
@phillipjordan7338
@phillipjordan7338 7 күн бұрын
We had Barry Cofield, Fred Robbin’s, Jay Alford in ‘07 and Chris Canty, Linval Joseph and Rocky Bernard in ‘11. That’s a lot of beef in the middle of a the 4-3 we were running back then. We did not have to worry about teams gashing us up the middle.
@mgee1723
@mgee1723 7 күн бұрын
We had spags too
@stevenarce96
@stevenarce96 6 күн бұрын
And Mathias kiwanuka 💯
@SuperPick12
@SuperPick12 8 күн бұрын
The Giants learn something from the Eagles, it is that you don't have to have a top 10 or top 5 quarterback to make the Super Bowl; you just have to know how to build a roster.
@Followeroftheway1886
@Followeroftheway1886 8 күн бұрын
Ok but the talent gap between hurts and mahomes is so wide that mahomes is going to will his team to a win. Hurts can't do that because he doesn't have the skill. Mahomes will negate their roster alone, just watch
@trentonwright8165
@trentonwright8165 8 күн бұрын
@@Followeroftheway1886I love how Giants fans have such a low opinion of Hurts. Like you guys didn’t trot out Devito, Lock and Daniel Jones 😂
@Followeroftheway1886
@Followeroftheway1886 8 күн бұрын
@trentonwright8165 such a low opinion? Hee nowhere near as good as mahones, no qb is. And u act like we thought they were great qbs.
@SuperPick12
@SuperPick12 8 күн бұрын
@trentonwright8165 exactly lol...we just need to get a good GM and Coach
@CynthiaGeorgette
@CynthiaGeorgette 8 күн бұрын
My concern is if Sanders and Ward not there at 3rd and the Giants go for BPA hoping to get Dart later I don’t think Dart or even Milroe will be there at 34 unless they trade back up in second round, but then they’d be giving up precious draft picks where we need talent everywhere.
@phillipjordan7338
@phillipjordan7338 7 күн бұрын
I would rather Graham, Carter, or Will Johnson at 3 in that order. Picking up Will Howard, Kyle McCord or Jaxson Dart in round 2 or 3, pick up a bridge Qb and build out the offensive and defensive line in the draft and free agency. I think moving to a 4-3 would free up Burns and Thibs to just do what they are good at without having to drop into coverage as much.
@VinceG18
@VinceG18 8 күн бұрын
i would take carter or graham. the giants may be able to move back a few spots if they wanted to.
@AnthonyPaletto
@AnthonyPaletto 8 күн бұрын
I would take Carter whether those two QBs are there or not. If you trade down your not getting Cater or Hunter . Unless we get a pick in the top 6 and another pick this year and a 1 next year take the stud . Carter or Hunter
@timothybryant119
@timothybryant119 8 күн бұрын
Can never have enough pass rushers ala Strahan, Tuck,n Osi
@MrBruceWolf
@MrBruceWolf 8 күн бұрын
You know who else "overinvests" in their defensive front? Philly.
@tsvimizrahi849
@tsvimizrahi849 8 күн бұрын
You guys are growing on me. Great stuff 🔥🔥
@VianniOG
@VianniOG 8 күн бұрын
Kayvon should be a DE on the line
@GmanForLife
@GmanForLife 8 күн бұрын
If we take Carter , I would traded Kayvon to the cards for a 3rd !! Then take a guard and corner
@kevindavis4351
@kevindavis4351 8 күн бұрын
Why? Why not have 3 pass rushers that can rotate and get after the QB continuously.
@GmanForLife
@GmanForLife 8 күн бұрын
@ Kayvon 5th year option is coming up and has done nothing special to deserve it
@ronwan1408
@ronwan1408 8 күн бұрын
@@GmanForLife Keep the 3 pass rushers. Giants will more than likely pick up KT’s option anyway.
@dareonreal1
@dareonreal1 8 күн бұрын
Carter upside is way higher then kayvon
@GmanForLife
@GmanForLife 8 күн бұрын
@ then we just let him walk km FA bc u not onna pay a backup more than 15mill
@strongtoprosperfitness6822
@strongtoprosperfitness6822 8 күн бұрын
To me, KT is expendable at this point for all the reasons mentioned. However, we don't beat Washington in 2022 to get to playoffs without KT's elite performance @ Washington....he was sensational that night.
@wilman7770
@wilman7770 8 күн бұрын
Travis Hunter? 185 lb corner? He’s probably a good cover corner… but… can he tackle? He’s just a slightly bigger Cordale Flott with better coverage skills. Draft Mason Graham. The Giants need better run defense. Problem solved. You need to match up with better O lines like the Eagles.
@juanharris3171
@juanharris3171 8 күн бұрын
If I can't get my QB at 3 I'm going defense cb Will Johnson or D-line inside help to help Dex... Dex deserves help we still can't stop the run so give me Graham.
@Redd_Fawkes
@Redd_Fawkes 8 күн бұрын
Dex and both edge rushers would be more effective with Graham in the mix.
@frankmadrak98
@frankmadrak98 8 күн бұрын
we need a elite defensive line man. we need to stop the run!!!!!!!
@tsvimizrahi849
@tsvimizrahi849 8 күн бұрын
This the perfect draft to get big in trenches get back to being the giants
@Simmy_Atlas77
@Simmy_Atlas77 8 күн бұрын
BUT did we truly invest too much money into the Defensive Line?? Yes, we traded and paid for Burns, yes we extended Lawrence, yes we invested in a 5th overall pick on Kay von, but can we confirm that we'll be extending Kayvon after this year given he hasn't been the player we have all expected? As they always say you can never have enough pass rushers AND if you don't take Carter then you're truly not going the BPA route. I say if Ward & Sanders is not available at 3 and they're not looking to take Carter or Hunter, then trade back a few spots and draft Graham or Will Johnson while getting more draft assets
@christopherdonofrio9997
@christopherdonofrio9997 8 күн бұрын
I personally don’t mind Carter think he might be best in draft but if we stay at 3 I think it’s Carter or either 2 guys from Michigan graham who makes our d line one of best in football along with Carter or will johnson who coming into the draft was the number one prospect and he plays a position we desperately need in cornerback or if one of the QBs drop and Oakland is will to give up say the 6th pick a 3rd this year and next years 1 I would jump on that because it gives us more picks to find talent and gives the ammo to possibly move up to draft a qb next year when the talent is much better now I personally think shine and daboll should have been fired because we have gotten progressively worse since they got here and next years schedule is looking like another bad year for us not to mention watching saqoun destroy everyone but I think this past draft saved him with nabers Nubian phillps being top graded at their positions as rookies as well as Tracy and Theo and muesauwactully looked good also so if shone can nail this draft too I would say with a couple decent free agents we will at least be in right path to possibly compete in 26
@timdejoseph1595
@timdejoseph1595 8 күн бұрын
Yeah, i think the trenches are most important, but having a dual threat which includes a CB1 is tough to pass up too. I still lean Hunter, but wouldn’t be upset if we went Carter. However, im totally convinced they’re drafting QB. Ill be shocked if they dont. Shocked in a good way at 3.
@Im-wd6tx
@Im-wd6tx 8 күн бұрын
Carter is Special I would be happy with that then just figure something else out at QB
@vitolipari3406
@vitolipari3406 8 күн бұрын
The Tennessee GM says he will pick the boa. This means Carter or Hunter will be the first pick. This means that Sanders or Ward or both will be available.
@andrewgraham5434
@andrewgraham5434 8 күн бұрын
Cater or Graham hunter at 3 then grab a few oline in second round and a bridge qb keep building cause like it's horrendous the way this team is
@juanharris3171
@juanharris3171 8 күн бұрын
Will Johnson best corner in the draft
@gravy0038
@gravy0038 8 күн бұрын
Idc who is there at 3 IF Carter is there we have to take him.. I would put him at MLB we've been starvin for a legit ILB for decades and this way we wouldn't need to trade Kayvon..
@sclafantasy
@sclafantasy 8 күн бұрын
Trading draft picks for veterans right now Anthony!? To win maybe 5 instead of 4 games next year? If they do that, Imma lose my mind. Trade for future picks if you aren’t that high on the guys in the draft this year.
@navaronehartman8880
@navaronehartman8880 8 күн бұрын
I'd be surprised if we get 4 wins next year, much less 5. I don't see a win anywhere on the schedule
@travismurray7403
@travismurray7403 8 күн бұрын
Imo it's not oberkill,kayvon is just not good. He talks a good game but his pass rush win rate is awful and his second move is almost non existing . Hes being held on to because of his draft selection but he's produced like a late 3rd rounder.
@Jacobscislow
@Jacobscislow 7 күн бұрын
Do you guys think the consider Dart at 3 if QBs go one and two? Not sure if they want to risk QBs going off the board.
@kevindavis4351
@kevindavis4351 8 күн бұрын
Anthony, I hear you. Yes, they have invested a lot into the D -line, but more pass rushers give the team a freaking identity. You could make the case that giving Nabers the ball is the team identity but that is complete BS. Relentless pressure and attack the QB would the team's identity if Carter gets drafted.
@vitolipari3406
@vitolipari3406 8 күн бұрын
I don’t believe that Dart will be there in the second round .
@1senray
@1senray 8 күн бұрын
I’d love this pick!! Make it happen Joe
@kalebtaylor1787
@kalebtaylor1787 8 күн бұрын
Mfers not realizing there is an elite pass pressure every single year you’ll never get a Travis Hunter
@TOPAZCAT1975
@TOPAZCAT1975 8 күн бұрын
If I recall correctly, the same was said about Kayvon, still waiting for that to happen...
@rickpolidore5054
@rickpolidore5054 7 күн бұрын
There are two ways to win in the NFL…either a great qb in a qb centric league or the kind of defense that can rattle a great qb…remember Tom Brady…can’t be afraid to make a strength even stronger…draft great players like Carter or Graham…
@markmorales3474
@markmorales3474 7 күн бұрын
Can yall take a look at Dillion Gabriel? I feel like he’s an overlooked prospect who had a really good season.
@JJG86
@JJG86 5 күн бұрын
I’d prefer Graham and then cross my fingers that Thibodeaux finally lives up to his draft position.
@markdeming8900
@markdeming8900 8 күн бұрын
Question I hear the second round should be flush with DT would CB hunter be a better move for that reason. Trenches will make the CB job easy though. Do we need a lockdown CB if the QB is running for his life the whole time. Never overkill If an elite rusher gets a break he's a more efficient rusher. Last point is player evals if he's catalyst that moves the locker room take him. Some CB are divas as well.
@JackWhitman-u1p
@JackWhitman-u1p 7 күн бұрын
If Milroe drops to round 4 then I'd pick him and use him as a running back combo split with Tracy
@JJG86
@JJG86 5 күн бұрын
Anything that prevents the Giants from picking a non-franchise quarterback at three, is OK by me.
@CuppaJoey1
@CuppaJoey1 8 күн бұрын
Give me Carter and trade Thibs
@jamesfrazier3621
@jamesfrazier3621 8 күн бұрын
Yeah Jalen M going to be a project I was still draft ing put them at least at 3rd string
@tsvimizrahi849
@tsvimizrahi849 8 күн бұрын
Absolute beast. Freak. Parsons to a tee
@jamesfrazier3621
@jamesfrazier3621 8 күн бұрын
Even if we do draft to QB which we don't have really high prospects in this draft he has to sit one year to the roster is more talented
@Longliveduhhkiid
@Longliveduhhkiid 7 күн бұрын
Abdul Carter will be cool for 4-5 years. After his first contract he goin to the eagles the first chance he gets
@Thundabuddy00
@Thundabuddy00 8 күн бұрын
love carter but I dont think he will be there
@pacdude5279
@pacdude5279 8 күн бұрын
We get it Alex you don’t want sanders 😂 Jesus Christ
@firesidegiants
@firesidegiants 8 күн бұрын
i literally said id take him at 3 but wouldn't trade up for him, ffs
@Followeroftheway1886
@Followeroftheway1886 8 күн бұрын
​@firesidegiants bro can never win lol. Said it in the first 5 mins
@sherm50599
@sherm50599 8 күн бұрын
Schoen really screwed up not trading Slayton into last year’s deadline… could use the pick now…
@Andre-dy1po
@Andre-dy1po 7 күн бұрын
For what a 6th? No one's trading anything more for an expiring mid receiver
@lordm91
@lordm91 7 күн бұрын
Dallas is getting the best RB in the draft. The eagles have Barkley, and all the QBs in the nfc East can run so Carter or Gram helps way more with stopping that, then Hunter ever will. But a QB will let you fight back. The only thing is the giants have never drafted a black quarterback and never will.
@garyhall5727
@garyhall5727 5 күн бұрын
I like Carter!!!! I say draft Carter and trade KT too KC for the 1st RD pick this season… Grab dart with the 1st rd pick
@kingdee7434
@kingdee7434 6 күн бұрын
I would take Carter and take Jaxson second or Milroe
@Kanive989
@Kanive989 7 күн бұрын
Jackson dart will be another Daniel Jones. I don’t know how you don’t see it. Please do not draft this guy , it will be the same thing over again 😂
@billavoider6076
@billavoider6076 8 күн бұрын
I think you go hunter if the qb's are gone....
@etc7898
@etc7898 7 күн бұрын
Give me hunter and McCord
@ILLBuilding
@ILLBuilding 8 күн бұрын
So we not rocking with QB??
@marclaceum
@marclaceum 7 күн бұрын
Did you just make a Alabama Qb into a runningback ?
@kingdee7434
@kingdee7434 6 күн бұрын
I never wanted number 5 he was trash in college motor run to low and don't have no pass rush moves
@lordm91
@lordm91 7 күн бұрын
Can Travis stop Barkley. HELL NO, and Dallas is about to kill with the best RB in the draft. Travis is good, but he's not the best player for the team right now. If this GM takes Travis over a QB or a top pass rush, it will set the giants back for years. Worst GM ever
@VinnieSerrano
@VinnieSerrano 8 күн бұрын
Why not two quarterbacks
@jall2193
@jall2193 8 күн бұрын
Holy shit first
@anthonyrivardo3463
@anthonyrivardo3463 8 күн бұрын
W
@arcadeslum5882
@arcadeslum5882 8 күн бұрын
These DEs are all tiny one trick ponies.
@stonefacedninja
@stonefacedninja 8 күн бұрын
Shedeur had a weak game in the Alamo Bowl. I think that hurts his position and he slides down in the draft. I think we should focus on corner or Cam Ward. I still think the Titans take Cam, and the Browns surprise everyone and take OL. Their line was straight trash last season. They're built to win now, have no cap space, and won't benefit from drafting a QB. Taking Sanders at 3rd makes no sense, we should take Hunter or Will Johnson.
@kalebtaylor1787
@kalebtaylor1787 8 күн бұрын
You guys can’t make that argument there’s an elite pass rusher out in every single draft. You’ll never get a Travis Hunter.
@CynthiaGeorgette
@CynthiaGeorgette 8 күн бұрын
I agree that we need OL and DL depth. So maybe Hunter if the 2 QBs not there but again Dart may be gone by the time they get to the second round bc he’s moving up the draft board. Maybe take Dart with 3rd overall pick and hope Daboll can create the next Jayden Daniels!
@analysis1957
@analysis1957 8 күн бұрын
I want Ward at 3, if not there I want Hunter, Carter or Graham. I think the NFL has to make a couple of changes. First, introduce a weighted lottery for the top 5 or 6 picks. Second regarding scheduling. any teams who finishes with one of the 5 worst records should not play the hardest schedule the following year.
@jamesfrazier3621
@jamesfrazier3621 8 күн бұрын
Don't go quarterback first round BPA go Travis Hunter and Carter by trading Dexter Lawrence for a tackle and to move up in draft
@americancheese3087
@americancheese3087 8 күн бұрын
Mike Green out of Marshall is just as fast, & has more moves than Abdul Carter. Carter struggles against the run.
@RacerXdBrother
@RacerXdBrother 8 күн бұрын
Milroe is not an NFL QB, especially when Dart and McCord will probably be there at the top of the 2nd.
8 күн бұрын
The common denominator b/w the the Eagles going to the Super Bowl and the NYG being the worst team in the NFL, is Future Hall of Famer Saquon Barkley! Tracy Jr behind that Eagles O-Line and the Eagles are not in the Super Bowl, THERE ARE LEVELS, SAQUON IS THE FINAL BOSS!!! I will never forget nor forgive NYG gm Joe Schoen and the Press and the media as a whole for Saquon's departure. Of course the worst GM in NYG history pulled the trigger but there were no serious push back against the mere speculation of not signing Saquon by the media at all, in fact they CO-SIGNED the b.s.! Instead we heard all these dumb A*S talking points like don't pay the RB's, not even a GENERATIONAL RB!??? You don't have a choice but to pay Daniel Jones??? and Now the talk is the RB position is back??? wtbleeeeeep???? clowns!!! Monkey see monkey doo doo.🙈🙈💩
@SeVEN-l2n
@SeVEN-l2n 8 күн бұрын
You trade him when you complain about depth every other video 😅😵‍💫
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