Giants TRAPPED in NFL HELL-Is Daboll on the Chopping Block?

[@Lrobin0428]

Lamar Jackson was 32nd, Russell Wilson was in the 3rd round, Jalen Hurts was in the 2nd round, Jordan Love was in the 20’s. The moral of the story is they can get a QB later in the draft without sacrificing your future capital. They can draft a QB in the 2nd or trade back in the 1st (which would cost them less than trading to the #1 pick). Have them sit for a year to learn the position.

[@CINO0816]

THANK YOU @Lrobin0428 !! U can get a good QB all over the draft

[@blazinrounds230]

Tom Brady was a 6th round pick

[@bigsr.644]

Stone Cold hell yeah

[@stevenspaulding]

The Alabama kid should be available not going to lie and say I watched every snap the kid played this year but your point is spot on sometimes things happen for a reason

[@Lrobin0428]

@@blazinrounds230I can’t believe I forgot the GOAT! Yup, that is perfect point that you can find a QB, you just have to develop them. There has been more QB’s who were drafted in the later rounds that were and are successful as opposed to those drafted in the top 5.

[@geofromnj7377]

The Giants could have gotten out of hell by drafting Josh Allen instead of Saquon Barkley. John Mara consistently hires GMs who do not how to draft needed talent. Gettleman also passed on Michah Parsons because of character issues and drafts Kadarius Toney, a certified lunatic.

[@OpenMindsFreestyle]

Giants need QB , O line and CB’s and it’s been like this for years. Ironically the problem is that our GM drafts for need instead of best talent available and that’s why he misses , he forces the pick . Joe shoen has shown that he’s made some good choices in FA . Why not draft best available and use FA to fill needs?

[@HorFell]

Arguably he did both. When he drafted Neal and Thibs, they went right where they should have. I think the Bowen and Wink systems don’t suit him and Neal has been playing out of position and also just not getting it to learn RT

[@TL2354]

Schoen

[@gman56-mb]

DT who is a major run stopper first, pass rusher second. O Line need IOL who are good at run blocking.

[@BadDriversOfNorthCarolina]

The Giants need to fire their GM! That alone will help...

[@lucasmartinez5703]

Not until they pick the right GM.

[@jennystryker2967]

I like Jaxson Dart.

[@kevinstewart8054]

All I know is Sam Darnold would be foolish to come back to this area to play. Take less to play with the better team(s). The giants or jets don’t or wont have that by next year.

[@andrewfusco8580]

I doubt Minnesota will even allow him that option.

[@MrBronx61]

Won't they franchise him?

[@kevinstewart8054]

@@MrBronx61they could but the wild card is JJ McCarthy. They cut reset the qb clock by letting him walk. It’s easier to win under that rookie pay scale rather than paying for a veteran qb.

[@MrBronx61]

@@kevinstewart8054 But if the Vikings go on a deep playoff run, I can't see the veteran players being happy with Sam leaving and starting over with a young, inexperienced QB. The window of opportunity closes fast in the NFL.

[@kevinstewart8054]

@@MrBronx61it does but these gms are all about managing that cap. Think about it this way, Alex Smith was a very successful qb before Pat Mahomes came along. Smith was the model of consistency for the chiefs that they didnt have since Trent Green. If the Vikings believe that they’ve found that guy and he’s cheaper to keep, it would be easy to let Darnold walk using that logic. Trent Dilfer was a locker room favorite amongst the ravens in 2000. But still didn’t stop the ravens from releasing him and signing Elvis Grbac in 2001.

[@davbain2683]

NYG fan since the mid 60s. If I am the NYG, I am starting over. I am looking for a Jimmy Johnson - Herschel Walker trade, the cornerstone of the Cowboys turning point. I'm looking to play my 1st and 2nd round, and maybe even Malik Nabors, for as many drafts or trades that make sense. The O line prematurely ended Eli Mannings career. The O Line ended Daniel's career as a NYC. Only a Josh Allen type could succeed with NYG O line talent and it would be because he rushed for 2,000 yards. Without a cohesive NFL starting O Line, it doesn't matter who is QB, RB, R or TE, we won't have a winning season.

[@BoomSkwad47]

Game is won in the trenches.

[@riggz46]

Dont reach for any QB, trade back accumulate assets and get the best players available with a focus on both lines. The whole team needs to be improved reaching for a qb will just slow down the process. And do this with a new GM and i do like Dabol but he'd probably have to go too.

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Agree 100% with draft focus on other than QB...Especially on D with guys who are fundamentally sound and can tackle opposing ball-carriers...But, Daboll should be retained, along with Schoen because the 2024 Draft Class has been excellent this season...I was all for getting rid of both until the Colts game forced me to reconsider starting over...Who knows, Playoffs in 2025 not out of the realm of possibility..??

[@liquifiedart]

Let Lock start and see if he continues to show he can be the guy. Draft valuable pieces instead. This qb class is poo poo.

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Exactly...!! PHI is another audition for Lock and Daboll as "QB Whisperer"...But, it seems like the Colts game performance could (??) be the turn-around moment we have been waiting for...Mayfield and Darnold were both picked off the scrap-heap of failed high 1st Round Draftees and are now thriving as Pro Bowl-caliber QBs leading their teams to the Playoffs...So, QB resurrections DO happen

[@MartialFit50]

Keep Drew, sign another veteran QB, and maybe draft a QB.

[@intel_da_developer4791]

Watch Cam Ward be a beast

[@billmangan603]

We know we are doomed for at least another decade as Giants fan

[@davemandaro2138]

Correct !! too many misses for Schoen to keep his job ie Thibs, Neal, Banks, Schmitz, 2 forgettable OG’s , Gotta Go !

[@joe2times381]

This is not rocket science if we’re top 3 draft a QB if we’re not draft best player available and draft a QB in the later rounds or trade up at the end of the first round to draft one theirs to solid options in this draft worst case scenario get a free agent QB stock up and fill this team with talent

[@bobtis]

I agree with Boomer and I usually don't

[@FiendishFantasy]

Daboll was doomed by having Scheon as his gm. It's almost like he's purposely sabotaging the Giants

[@stanfromwestport2024]

I think Daboll is pretty happy with Schoen's Class of 2024 NFL Draftees

[@kjsandoli2692]

@@stanfromwestport2024 How about the 2022 and 2023 draft,a total disaster

[@stanfromwestport2024]

@@kjsandoli2692 Less good for sure...Can't argue with that

[@johnnunes2993]

Schoen and Daboll came together from Buffalo.

[@232GOLDIELOCKS]

If the giants keep daboll and schoen and they are top of the draft next year john mara is gunna be forced to sell the team. I think the fans will be so unbelievably furious at him and hell have to sell

[@paulmysliborski4832]

Never. His Grandfather founded the NFL. He's "Grandfathered" in. For life

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

You clearly don’t know how owners are forced out. John Mara is not Dan Snyder. He’s not Robert Sarver. He’s not Donald Sterling. You have to be an EVIL son of a bitch to be forced out, and even then, James Dolan and David Tepper haven’t been forced out. Mara is flawed, but he’s also won two Super Bowls like his father. He ain’t leaving anytime soon.

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Mara will NEVER "sell the team", or be forced too...The Giants are wildly profitable no matter what their record is...Making the Playoffs is just gravy...The point is ALL NFL teams make a lot of money, even if they stink

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

@@232GOLDIELOCKS Won’t ever happen. He’s not Dan Snyder or Donald Sterling or Robert Sarver. He’s won two rings like his father, he won’t sell the team anytime soon, nor will he be forced. Mara’s flawed, but he’s not evil.

[@farkdrum85]

Is boomer really gonna start this episode essentially by saying "my bad!" ?????

[@JasonMcDaniel-n2l]

I disagree with Boomer.... totally

[@Phillipguy034]

I thought Boomer was gonna say my bad for being late two days in a row after their 2 week vacation

[@Mato-x6g]

People forget how good drew lock played last year for the seahawks only thing the giants need to do is improve the o line and draft a jaxson dart or kyle mmcord with the third pick if we cant get ward or sanders in the first round and let lock be the bridege qb that teach them the ropes💯

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Lock's 155.3 QB Rating was the 6th highest in the history of NYG...QB resurrections ARE possible...Think about Mayfield & Darnold coming back from the scrap-heap to be Pro Bowl-level performers

[@Mato-x6g]

@stanfromwestport2024 drew lock has the potential to be the giants staring qb 💯

[@joe2times381]

Smh colt didn’t come to play they’re defense was terrible

[@joe2times381]

I like Jaxson dart he’s a sleeper

[@stanfromwestport2024]

@@Mato-x6g 100% Right @Mato....!! 155.3 QB Rating in Colts game could signal the turn-around..!!

[@GordonHills]

Giants need a GM thats not afraid to stand up to ownership. Never should have given DJ a contract was afraid to say no hes nit the guy. Then talked his way into letting Barkley and ithers go without any compensation. GM needs to stand his ground with ownership. Stay the course keep current draft picks wirk eith ehat you have. I think milroe is best QB and he not considered 1st rounder

[@shakycameratheater]

Will the NFL want a draft lottery?

[@makavelithedon4161]

We got get ward or sanders

[@TL2354]

So why don’t YOU?

[@marketworldsofinformation7849]

Hey Giants fans what do you think of Ole Miss’s Jaxson Dart as a quarterback prospect. He appears to have all of the tools to be a solid quarterback!

[@TheodoreRizzo]

Giants going for another losing season regardless what kind moves and who they draft this offseason.

[@MrBronx61]

Next year's schedule is brutal.

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Giants are Playoff Team in 2025 with Lock @ QB and Daboll coaching...My son thinks 4 - 13...So, we'll see....I was on the record for Giants to be 5 - 12 this season, a bit optimistic as it turned out...But, I think they already turned things around vs Colts...Let's see how Daboll & Lock's offense performs @ PHI on Sunday...??!!

[@MrBronx61]

@@stanfromwestport2024 I agree with your son. 🤣This season, I predicted 6 or 7 wins. Boy, was I wrong.

[@stanfromwestport2024]

@@MrBronx61 I was @ 5 wins in 2024...Also wrong...But, I really sense a turn in fortunes for the better...Much like the METS bottoming out @ -11 Games under .500 and improbably getting to NLCS...So, if Lock can continue on Sunday and emerge as the clear starter for 2025, I think 11 or 12 wins are possible...

[@MrBronx61]

@@stanfromwestport2024 I'm not that optimistic, especially with the clowns we have running the front office and a brutal schedule (NFC North & AFC West). I'll go with 6 again. They have to knock it out of the park with this draft.

[@jburwell7851]

Get ready Giants fans because they absolutely beating the eagles sunday and moving even further down the draft.. have fun with Carson beck or Quinn ewers 😂😂😂

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Giants will be a Playoff Team in 2025 with Lock as QB...!! The great thing about You-Tube is we can revisit the comments to see if it turns out that way...?!?!

[@jburwell7851]

​@@stanfromwestport2024🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 DELUSIONAL

[@supreme_handles3123]

⁠@@stanfromwestport2024Bro I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that we will not be a playoff team with Drew Lock as the starter.

[@CINO0816]

​@jburwell7851 maybe. But 2 and a half years ago, Mayfield & Darnold were both on the Carolina Panthers. Things change quickly. Also, why does everyone think the only QBs worth anything is a 1st or 2nd pick?

[@kennydyson31288]

Listen, I’ve been on board with something that. I honestly would rather have Travis Hunter and try to find a quarterback in free agency. I’ll go ahead and say it I feel like the Giants should’ve never release DJ but that’s just me.

[@Swerv-A9C]

Cam is a dawg!!!

[@teejay8200]

Boomer for the love of god shut up about wentz there will be riots outside the stadium if that happens!! Ew.

[@margaretjiantonio939]

Quarterback is too valuable to call running plays for. There's too much a chance he'll get injured.

[@Comedy.tunes.battier]

Boomer didn’t say My Bad, but basically didn’t with apologizing for being late😂

[@metro76100]

JAXSON DART

[@gino423]

His play calling sucks.....especially on 3rf down.

[@TL2354]

What down?

[@ronalddecesaris6115]

Mara will never make the right decision 25 will be another 3 or 4 win season

[@dankcheese107]

Please don’t sign Kirk this offseason

[@michaelmeenan5522]

Wow. Just realized that Boomer and I played HS QB on Long Island the same years. He was at East Islip and I played for St. Dom's. Boomer is the voice of reason and experience. And for those of us who want to fix the Giants, here's a few recommendations. RULE #1 Control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. This is a foundational principle. Drew Lock's performance was not an aberration, but the product of good protection and the residue of a good week in practice. His 4th start. Lock is a hoopster and played QB like a point guard. He was focused, and kept the offense on time and in rhythm. Players feed off that. You feel it in the huddle. In the absence of pass protection, most QBs not named Mahomes will fail. Eli with and without pass protection are two very different QBs. The same can be said for Drew Lock and practically every other QB. Here's an illustration: The reason Bo Nix is succeeding (the #12 overall pick) and Caleb Williams (#1 overall pick) is not, isn't based on talent, but largely on the quality of the O-Line & coaching, which allows for the great things Nix and the Broncos have accomplished or, conversely, the struggles that Williams and the Bears continue to suffer - a 10-game losing streak and counting. Justin Fields and Caleb Williams are a combined 17 - 42 since 2021. First round QB draft selections do not ensure success. All that glitters is not gold. Perhaps Joe Schoen's most grievous mistake was his failure to address the O-Line before the 2023 season. Instead of trading draft capital for Darren Waller, he should have been securing interior linemen. While the draft is speculative and results often delayed, the condition of the O-Line at that time was obvious and I sensed the Giants offense was heading for trouble. He finally addressed O-Line deficits after the 2023 season, but more depth is needed. And the Giants need to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. So here's a few thoughts... 1. The Smart Move would be to draft Michigan DT MASON GRAHAM with our first round pick. He's a one-man wrecking crew that's NFL ready. Pair him with Dex. Our run defense will be stout and won't fall apart when either Dex or Mason needs a breather. Our pass rush will absolutely wreak havoc and do its part to create turnovers. 2. Via draft and FA - bolster O-Line with mix of experienced linemen and quality guards/centers for development. We need depth. 3. Ditto LB & Secondary - mix FA and quality draft prospects. Two Years - The above recommendations will take two years. Establish a healthy balance between draftee talent and quality FA contracts. Bear in mind the timeline of the draft picks and FA contracts, especially the their expiration to coordinate enough funding and in-house talent for anticipated departures. There's no quick fix, and simple is not always easy... or simple. 4. Sign Drew Lock to a reasonable contract with incentives. You're investing in stability and baseline competence. At worst, you'll have a quality back-up who understands the offense and can perform well with reasonable protection. At best, the NFL can add to its growing list of experienced QBs a QB that found a situation in which he can thrive in a starting role. I know some Giants fans disagree. I've studied all of Drew's available film and I'm not at all surprised with his performance, especially when one considers the maturation in both his personal life and on the field under the tutelage of Pete Carroll. Drew is he's entering his prime and can make any throw his position requires - zip, loft, fade, back-shoulder, 50/50 ball & bomb - name it. His arm reeks talent. As he settles in, Drew appears to be gaining command - he's recognizing defenses and making the proper pre-snap alerts, and reads from the pocket. He's establishing trust with the receiver corp. Promote this process. It's a player asset. Maybe I'm more willing to cut him slack than most others because I played QB for several years and know how solid O-Line play can positively impact performance. Keeping it real, Drew needs to minimize the turnovers, but he knows that. Early on, I expected some hiccups from Drew, some worse than others. Most QBs fall on their face, usually when placed in novel situations or when sabotaged by "look-out" blocks. Regardless, it appears he and coach Tierney have done their homework, which yielded last week's success. It's a weekly endeavor, trust me on this one. 6. During the interim, find the right draft-eligible QB for development. I now live in Syracuse and saw Kyle McCord outperform Cam Ward. Both QBs played well. Whomever the Giants select, he'll enter an experienced QB room, as did Drew when he joined Geno Smith in Seattle. Just like Geno, Drew has experience and the battle scars to prove it - none of which prevented him from posting a ridiculous statline - 17-23, 309 yards, 4 TD's, TD score and a 155.3 QB Rating against a team still in the playoff hunt. Draft from a position of strength and not weakness, and definitely not out of desperation. Final thoughts - Rebuild the TEAM first. Quality QB play will follow in suit. Lock has already given Giants brass a glimpse. The GM needs to get his hands dirty and suck it up - be about the business of creating a strong Football TEAM.

[@chino7287]

You JUST realized that?! 😂

[@nightshift8249]

This is almost too well thought out and logical a comment for a WFAN video. But I agree. Foundational football. Drafting a QB may turn a franchise around, but not this year imho, and not without foundation.

[@michaelmeenan5522]

@chino7287 LOL... YESSSSS

[@michaelmeenan5522]

@@nightshift8249 Yeah... Someone needs to consider what is this rookie QB stepping into. I'm not into dissing other teams, but Chicago keeps making the same mistake & doesn't seem to get it lol. And I wasn't immune to making mistakes under duress so I can really empathize with Drew. As for the post, I got tired of the pundits labeling Drew this or that, especially when management doesn't realize that part of the solution is already in house. My word...

[@nightshift8249]

@@michaelmeenan5522 my ideal wishlist scenario was for the Giants to cling to the first overall pick, and then fleece another team like Oakland for it. We could have traded it back for future first round picks and concentrated on filling other positions of need while either retaining Lock or pursuing some other free agent QB on the cheap. I expect next year to be another wash but in the meantime I’d at least be amused by seeing a KirK Cousins or Derek Carr lob the ball around in blue. Sanders brings too much of the circus to town, Cam Ward has not blown me away, and nobody else is appealing. Let’s not make the same mistake we did with Daniel Jones (who we destroyed). If Dabes and Schoen are on thin ice, we shouldn’t let them draft a QB just say they can then be fired, and a new regime take over without “their guy.” And on and on the cycle goes.

[@michaelprunty3104]

Did Boomer really just plead for Wentz? Man, I miss smart sport DJs like Francesa, instead these dolts.

[@Swerv-A9C]

Cam is not a reach 😂smh yall gonna see

[@AlYrvan]

Man just say yall don't want a black qb

[@TheodoreRizzo]

Giants pls. Stay away from the sanders!!

[@stanfromwestport2024]

I would like to have Deion...I KNOW he can cover receivers & tackle ball carriers...!! The Hall of Fame thought so too....LOL

[@Swerv-A9C]

Giants have money to spend don’t sleep

[@dannyvigilante138]

Boomer you are hilarious. You just cried about people saying my bad. Then here you are. I'm late. Sorry, my bad. Smh.

[@LuckyCuro]

Carson Wentz is not young. Boomer is full of nonsense.

[@bobtis]

Boomer drinking heavily on New Years

[@victoryrush9584]

Brian Daboll is a total clown. He should be fired. Everything he touches turns to dirt. Brian Dabolls "plan" is "I pinky promise to do better".

[@joe2times381]

Coach of the year and took this terrible team to the playoffs not his fault our stupid trash garbage Gm resigned DJ then trade our best players away 🤷‍♂️

[@victoryrush9584]

@@joe2times381 It's not just the GM that makes those decisions by himself. Brian Daboll and the GM work together to craft a roster that they feel like can compete. A lot of fans are trying to only blame the GM for this team, but the coach helped build the team as well. Daboll is supposed to be what Matt LaFleur and KOC are for their teams, and it hasn't panned out. Daboll is in over his head, and he needs to go. Also - coach of the year award means very little, if it were actually about who was the best coach in each season Andy Reid would have won it multiple times by now. Daboll was just the flavor of the month.

[@joe2times381]

@ PLEASE STOP!!! Coaches can have input but the don’t make the final decision that’s all GM if you think daboll wanted DJ back your delusional schoen is to black for this terrible team

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Giants should stick with Daboll as Coach and Lock as QB

[@joe2times381]

Yes Daboll no lock

[@stanfromwestport2024]

@@joe2times381 If Lock has turned a corner under Daboll and can produce another strong QB Rating 100+ @ PHI, Lock should be named the starter for 2025...Then we can draft to needs - defensive players who can tackle and OL who can block for the run & the pass

[@Comedy.tunes.battier]

Wentz..😂

[@purepower333]

Bill Belichick!!!! To the Giants

[@MartialFit50]

😂😂😂😂

[@paulmysliborski4832]

Do you not know he took the College job in North Carolina?

[@purepower333]

@@paulmysliborski4832 yes But it doesn’t matter

[@MartialFit50]

@@purepower333 you’re right. Facts don’t matter

[@ToneFury]

Give me Jaxson Dart

[@Swerv-A9C]

Hell no

[@ToneFury]

@Heatle4L tell me who then

[@joe2times381]

I would definitely take dart or Milroe as a project in the later rounds but I really want cam ward

[@csallen]

I do hope the Giants lose this game. Let’s get a good pick.

[@thecastle09]

Giants gonna get Carson beck and say all the right things..they will continue to stink.

[@bajaaamayoogeee6531]

Watch the Giants next season do the opposite of what everyone thinks like in 2022 and win games. Be careful thinking there gonna be a 1 and 7 type team again...

[@stanfromwestport2024]

11 - 6, or even 12 -5 is my estimation...If Lock is QB and Daboll is Coach

[@TL2354]

They’re

[@MartialFit50]

@@stanfromwestport2024😂😂😂

[@stanfromwestport2024]

@@MartialFit50 We can revisit my estimation a year from now

[@MartialFit50]

@@stanfromwestport2024Lock wont be back. Devito is your QB1 next year and his agent

[@Johnmarzuillo-zm2ry]

What about all the Jets losing...

[@paulmysliborski4832]

No rookie QB will save this team. The O line is still terrible, the LB core sucks, the DL is thin other than Dex, there is no proven RB, and the secondary is shaky. Did I miss anything?? Schoen sucks. He needs to go.

[@joe2times381]

Everything you said was not true except for schoen sucking

[@johnpandolfino8663]

Tommy Gabagool making sandwiches 🥪 kzbin.infoOSYimGznT30?si=iWG-wMXMiXmUbBHM This guy is not qualified to head coach in the NFL ......buh bye 👋