Gil's Arena Debates The Greatest Scorer In NBA History

[@ProfJonJon]

Don’t forget lebron averaged 37 PPG against McCants

[@MaxWhite718]

I can’t be the only one who thinks this is tired by now 😴

[@josepharellano3975]

Don’t change the fact that he’s right about his debates about lebron

[@dparks2856]

​@@josepharellano3975 How?

[@ProfJonJon]

@@MaxWhite718 don’t care

[@ProfJonJon]

@@josepharellano3975 no it’s his OPINION lmaooo

[@DeeBrownLTD]

Love how Brandon Jennings always shows love to Monta Ellis

[@TheKos2Kos]

Maybe because they were both cooked by D Wade after they said they were better than wade haha

[@acevinci]

was lookin for this. still one of my fav players

[@amgdamvp8246]

Jackson Ms we here

[@ThatBoyPause]

Pause

[@eddierivers3250]

He gets over looked way too much Monta was a straight up bucket

[@ephraimlatson]

Curry is actually the most efficient scorer in modern NBA history. Check the stats. He has the greatest EFG for a 30pt score in history

[@hakeemwoodards5569]

Thank you...

[@jamondallen4508]

The spacing makes it easier to score. Stats are just stats.

[@hakeemwoodards5569]

@@jamondallen4508 still gotta put the ball in the hoop though

[@ephraimlatson]

@@hakeemwoodards5569 exactly. Stats are always "just stats" when they don't agree wit your point

[@hakeemwoodards5569]

@@ephraimlatson lol I concur

[@veemiyagimusic3892]

Curry is such an AMAZING shooter that it completely fucks up basketball conversations lmaooo that man different.

[@penkima4923]

He isn't that amazing of a shooter.

[@Slime5ea5on]

@@penkima4923oh god you’re special

[@penkima4923]

@@Slime5ea5on Well, Steph is not.

[@shaquilhoskins3078]

@@penkima4923so who would you consider a shooter

[@penkima4923]

@@shaquilhoskins3078 Steph is a shooter. Just an overrated one. More than half of his shots are threes, so he's definitely a shooter. Steph isn't a scorer, as in shot-creator. His shot mechanics are too clunky, and he shoots from a too low elevation, for him to reliably get his shot off versus decent on-ball defense. He requires picks or a series of picks and offensive movement to get his shot off. The Warriors has probably the most elaborate offensive scheme ever, intended to get Steph open for a shot. That's with Klay assigned on the point guard on defense, and drawing defense on the offense. And Dray acting as the playcaller, and at times setting screens. Steph is a good driver of the basketball, but rarely does drive. In clutch time Steph has never driven to the basket, but always settled for the three. And that three has never fallen in. The olympic final is the only clutch moment Steph has in his career. More than 5 years past his prime. Steph is a regular season shooter. And some sort of bad scoring option in the playoffs.

[@Terrelljns1]

I’m convinced a lot of NBA players did not watch basketball growing up. Young Ray Allen was indeed a scorer

[@yung2o365]

Made a whole movie of him getting buckets...

[@MakingPlays23]

Someone tried to tell me he was a shooter lol 😂 he used to dunk on mfs and he did the dunk contest ray was a scorer before lebron as love was as Mike miller as korver as ad as Bosh as Wade let’s quit the bs . Melo got every offensive skill

[@ThrifterGuy]

He was a scorer but not the best ever. That list is very small.

[@cljackson512]

Facts, he was an elite scorer at that.

[@marcosrojas4808]

Facts everyone just zoned in on Lebron and curry. Ray Allen , T-Mac , AI, Kobe , Vince, Rashad Lewis in Seattle, the list continues

[@francariglino]

MJ records as a scorer -Most Scoring Titles ever (10) -Most ppg regular season (30) -Most ppg playoffs (33) -Most points scored in a single playoff game (63) -Most points scored in a single playoff run (759) -Most ppg in a final series (41) Just to name the most important ones, the only one could be up there is Wilt but old school is forgotten

[@sethjackson2266]

Yes wilt is forgotten....as will the illegal defense era that just forced 1v1 in the post as the best real only option..eventually

[@darkswaggboss9059]

Kobe kd better scorers

[@francariglino]

@@darkswaggboss9059 then why didn't they break those records?

[@MelRivers]

lol yea but against unathletic shooting guards. It’s not as impressive when the competition is not as good. Like getting va scoring title is cool but against part time truck drivers takes the shine away a bit

[@jalynharden978]

lol Harden averaged more than 30 per game

[@kidmelo1994]

Melo, KD, Kobe, Jordan, Tmac, Allen Iverson are the greatest scorers in my life time.

[@hardwoodthought1213]

Take away Melo, McGrasy and AI

[@kidmelo1994]

​@@hardwoodthought1213you crazy

[@tonywong8134]

Iverson was just a volume shooter. Not very efficient. Tmac and kobe weren't that much better.

[@kidmelo1994]

@@tonywong8134 One Iverson had no one but him, Of course he gonna have alot of attempts and mediocre percentage. Two. You have to understand that back in early 2000 spaces was tight as hell and mid range was heavily use. Most player back on the days from the perimeter had bad percentage.

[@tonywong8134]

@@kidmelo1994 he was not much better in Denver with carmleo and no hand checking

[@4a_atm]

Carmelo Anthony in his prime was a mismatch for anybody just because of the simple fact that he was too fast for big men and he was too big for guards.

[@jojo_ranjan]

Even at the peak of his prime Carmelo couldn’t score 30 ppg in a season.

[@markmills9899]

@@4a_atm yeah he still scored less points then LeBron and Kd in the same time period

[@MiamiU4]

@@jojo_ranjan 30ppg, as a lone statistic, doesn't hold much weight because there are a lot of factors in that. This discussion is more about HOW you score. There are players who scored 30ppg but 10ppg came from the free throw. Like James harden, in those 3 seasons he avg 30+ppg he was also leading the league in free throws. But then the league changed on how they were calling those ticky tack fouls, Harden hasn't avg even 25ppg since. Then you have Curry who was classified as just a pure shooter but he developed in to a more rounded scorer later on. With Melo, he already had essentially the "perfect" offensive game from the moment he stepped on the NBA floor. Same with a T-Mac, VC, PG, KD

[@jamesjackson7616]

They were a mismatch for him as well bc he never played defense nor did he pass the ball. Coaches would just shut melo down and be guaranteed a win. Send a double and he’s still shooting it.

[@4a_atm]

@@jojo_ranjan Scoring 30 points a game doesn't necessarily make you an elite score more than someone else who averaged 29. Lol

[@jorbysold-4707]

How is Steph not generational then lol we never seen someone shoot or change the game like curry and we always compare him to who’s bigger and more athletic than him 😭

[@TimmysHR]

Not a generational scorer. He’s a generational shooter.

[@jorbysold-4707]

@@TimmysHR shooting is scoring, so now generational shooter is thing ngls is clowns 💀

[@Adrian-i8o]

@@jorbysold-4707 in terms of scoring is besides shooting. Curry will settle for a 3pt shot before ever attacking the rim or taking a close range jumper. Players like KD, James Harden, Kobe, Melo , Jordan and some others didn’t rely on only the 3pt shot they relied on all forms of scoring something Steph doesn’t. Not saying he can’t make a lay up in traffic or a middy. But let’s be honest he’s not looking to any of those things first like the others he’s literally a 3pt shooter who is glorified because of the volume of how many he takes. He changed the game for good and for the bad. But overall Steph is a shooter not a pure scorer

[@corpyhogan4433]

Removing LeBron from the conversation of greatest scorer has always been disingenuous for this reason: if you're talking about who can get two or three points by just simply getting the ball in the basket then yeah he's damn good at it The scoring conversation got screwed up with people tried to combine actually scoring points with how pretty it looks lol

[@applycontext9161]

Bro people think melo is a better scorer than bron even tho they have the same amount of scoring titles and bron has more 30ppg seasons. Aesthetics really deceive a lot of people

[@MichiganHendough]

or maybe because he shoots 36 pct outside the paint. 1 scoring title in 22 years.

[@lorddj9910]

@@MichiganHendoughok and what about the playoffs when he actually averages more?

[@Chill_Brill]

It's about skill not points...if that was the case Wilt, Malone and Kareem would be consider better scorers ahead of Kobe and Jordan. LeBron is PROBABLY a top 15 scorer

[@jameswilliams1180]

He scores one way. Look at his career shot chart 75% of his points cane in the paint.

[@Ayyeeeooo]

Saying Steph not a scorer not a bucket getter wtf 😂😭😭😭😂

[@S3verusMyG]

Steph literally the posterchild of scorefirst points

[@felix3033]

@@S3verusMyGI think people need to rewatch Curry’s 2014-2015 & 2015-2016 highlights. Dude was a nightmare .

[@Lee65100]

@@felix3033All they have to do is go back to the Olympics bro and see how he can get a bucket under clutch situations, 2021 when he won his SECOND SCORING TITLE, or how about his 2022 championship with Andrew Wiggins as his 2nd best player? 😂 They just don’t like Steph, and simply try to justify not choosing him.

[@Jerm0116]

Yea saying Steph is just a shooter at this point of time just shows they only watch certain people.

[@lnapjr76]

He's a shooter. Kobe was a scorer....he got buckets EVERWHERE in EVERY WAY. Outside. Mid-range. Attacking the rim. Post-up. Iso. Pick and roll. Free throw line. Right hand. Left hand. Double-teamed. It didn't matter. Greatest scorer ever. Wardell is a shooter.

[@IR-jw3rl]

Best pod going right now! ✌🏾

[@brandonmadden654]

81 points and 63 in 3 quarters 12 straight games with 40 points

[@brickywatters4571]

Lol kobe def one of best scorer. Esp wit those post shaq teams when teams knew only Kobe was scoring and he was still cooking

[@lnapjr76]

Right hand. Left hand.

[@unknown_suspect1245]

@@lnapjr76with dogshit percentages

[@reecewilliams8349]

The goat and best scorer all time.

[@tytytyme33]

Kobe played in the special Olympics. 😂😂. LBJ WAS THE GREATEST ANYTHING 💪💪💪

[@alexthomas748]

TMac gave Kmart a 46pt triple double. NBATV just showed it Hardwood Classics. Nets vs Magic 2000 2001

[@back2back379]

I think KMart was trying to say that T-Mac wasn't initially thought of as a primary scorer, he was thought of more as a playmaker and defensive stopper, but that doesn't mean T-Mac wasn't also a natural scorer. That's just how gifted he was.

[@kingklassic3522]

I love the end of this where they categorized it as shooters that can score and scores that could shoot. It actually makes so much sense. There's certain guys where their main thing is hitting that jumpshot but they can also use that to figure out ways to score. But then there's guys like Carmelo who can score from anywhere but you can't leave them open on a kickout or anything because he can actually shoot as well as hit from all areas of the Court. Love this show!

[@j.b.595]

Hell Yeah Lexie for mentioning Joe Johnson I don’t like that they brushed past it. 7x all star, all nba 3rd team and 20,000 points. ISO Joe come on y’all.

[@Qushma]

🔥 ISO Joe!!

[@litecodes3552]

Peers We all know Joe is A Top 25 pure scorer ever

[@nicholaswilson9198]

Off the dribble mid range iso Joe , but all time u gotta give it to Melo 😂

[@dougiet.2112]

The Demar Derozen of his era

[@hendrikdalnoot1989]

Joe Johnson doesn’t belong on the all time list

[@NahFr7]

😂 they said Steph a shooter. Man got 2 30+ ppg scoring titles. He’s a whole lot more than a shooter.

[@jekubb4348]

he really is but Steph doesn't post! witch in my eyes disqualifies him from this conversation! greatest scorer means EVERYTHING!

[@djadondaman17]

Why would my 6'3 pg post up wings. They aren't putting guards on steph unless they big guards and they damn sure ain't trying to see him 1v1 their man

[@jekubb4348]

@@djadondaman17 idk ask him! I'm not an offense coordinator! but we are talking about the GRETEST SCORER and Steph DOES NOT post! I'm not saying he should! I'm saying the GREATEST scorer MEANS EVERY FACET!

[@NahFr7]

@@jekubb4348 that’s true but his percentage at the rim is top 5 all time including big men. In a 15 year career, that’s an insane feat. But I agree he wouldn’t be the greatest scorer, that’s mj. He def should be mentioned tho.

[@jekubb4348]

@@NahFr7 is that true top 5? that's actually insane!

[@KinggTevann__]

This my favorite group of Gil’s show

[@GameCritiqueHub]

How is curry not one of the best scorers. Isn't shooting a form of scoring. He doesn't just shoot threes, he got a mid range, he got a touch around the rim for his size, on and off ball movement, and he is last time I checked the leader in threes all time.

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

The Steph hate is real

[@derrickhoward1543]

They are haters. All of em. Gil is jealous because he wasn't half the shooter or player that Steph is. The show is designed to get clicks off Steph's name.

[@jayzee316]

only that he doesnt score that much compared to other great scorers, clearly his shooting just isn't taking him there. in all time points (bron, kareem), points per game avg like MJ (higher than everyone ever)

[@van2.060]

Being the best shooter doesn't make you one of the best scorers lol...Steph doesn't hit 6,7,8 three's a game how many points does he score 15,16,17? He's the greatest shooter ever but he doesn't beat you in any other way...he's not one of the top 5-10 scorers ever but he's a scorer cause he can shoot it like no other

[@tbjb009]

There is much more to being a scorer than shooting three's all game....

[@dresmith500]

KD is only behind bron for most consecutive seasons averaging 25 put more respect on his name and the longevity

[@MrSjd1967]

ONLY?????😂😂😂😂

[@Newportnews98]

🧢

[@jthoopers]

@@Newportnews98it aint cap

[@russell9411]

@@Newportnews98it’s not cap bruh kd got 15 years straight over 25 bron at 20. Tf u saying “cap” let me know u really don’t appreciate greatness or u go off ur feelings

[@russell9411]

@@MrSjd1967maneeeeee lol they b talkin bout bron like he regular I don’t get it lol

[@khaliqsantos9055]

Hell na. Any order McGrady MJ Kobe Iverson Durant In discussion Kyrie Carmelo Anthony

[@damianpriest196]

Gil be putting Steph on every thumbnail now cuz he know Steph bring views 😂

[@gdc6153]

He dont like him

[@S3verusMyG]

he did and interview with dude​@@gdc6153

[@chrishall4984]

@@gdc6153he don’t like him? but interviewed him

[@MDB.6]

So you really think Gil is out here uploading podcast videos himself?

[@sebakahlesimelane4671]

@@gdc6153 but he still needs somebody to pay the bills

[@a-mf4ls]

Honestly, this content made my day!

[@nathanjones4135]

The logic is soooo weird. LeBron not considered a scorer simply because he wasn’t getting his points from jump shooting, but then Steph who is the best shooter of all time isn’t a scorer neither????? Please make this make sense. Yall need to define what yall mean by “scorer”, because it seems like yall just talking about isolation scoring.

[@nolifealert]

That curry disrespect is nuts

[@UncleSi1]

Everybody on that couch wish they was Steph

[@brianjemison5265]

Curry is top 5 maybe 3. He just wasn't on team where he had to get 30 all the time same as Durant

[@tbjb009]

Yall glaze Curry way too much. He is already the greatest shooter ever by a wide margin...how come that isn't enough? 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@brightkicks_]

Nah he just doesn’t come to mind when the word “scorer” comes up. I legit forgot about bro when I thought of my 5 (MJ,KD,Melo,Harden,AI)

[@BlixkedTwice]

Trae young a better scorer 😂 Gil crazy

[@ABgotIt1004]

How you can’t say Steph isn’t a scorer when he can score from everywhere on the floor

[@Mister.Patterson]

Bc his scoring is predicated off shooting primarily, which opens up the floor. He has to work to score one on one

[@MugiwaraNoDeji]

@@Mister.Patterson thats not true, Steph is one of the fastest shooters ever and can shoot over double teams and Wemby

[@804MRMAN]

​@@Mister.PattersonEVERYONE HAS TO WORK TO SCORE GOOFY 😂

[@acephalos5026]

Because the game strategy around him isn’t to get Steph an isolation, one on one, that’s last resort. For scorers that’s first resort is get them on an island with their defender. Steph is such a great shooter that the strategy for him is to get him coming off of screens to get him as open as possible, you don’t want him to have to create in isolation. He’s a shooter first who can also score but he had to work on his iso game, he wasn’t as natural at that as he was just pure shooting even tho you couldn’t tell now.

[@Dk9776v]

@@acephalos5026 shooting IS scoring if the ball goes in the hoop 😂 I swear to god y’all and these niggas on the pod wanna sound so different so bad complicating shit for no reason. Who cares if you can score from everywhere on the floor if absolutely nobody can stop you from scoring in a couple spots. Steph is a scorer, Shaq is a scorer, Bron is a scorer. Y’all be mixing up “versatile” with scorer. If you put the ball in the basket consistently you are a scorer. Imagine thinking a 30ppg guy shooting 50% is not a scorer 😭

[@KingstonsDad]

Kenyon said “KD scorer that can score an ah shooter that can shoot” everybody missed it 😅😅😅😂😂😂. 19:58

[@m.davinci9285]

MJ, KOBE, TMAC , MELO, KD

[@gdc6153]

AI too

[@ksisniipez]

Harden

[@Coldskin1]

No shaq? this list bruh is bias

[@Tail-bc2sd]

@@Coldskin1dude they are talking about natural scorers lol. Shaq ain’t there

[@chuckk2fuego76]

Not the guy who isn’t a scorer but broke the All time points record? Huh 🤔

[@brianjemison5265]

Jordan was such a good scorer he developed 2 ways to average 30. The 80s flying above rim and 90s fade away jumper

[@coreythomas3633]

50% FG FOR A CAREER. THAT HIGHER THAN MJ.

[@brianjemison5265]

@@coreythomas3633 100 percent in finals appearances if you go by percentages and their shooting percentage don't matter really they both basically made half there shots . Jordan shot outside more .

[@CosminCosyCodes]

I'm convinced Gil is both jealous and doesn't watch Steph play. It's getting CRINGE him using Steph to get engagement.

[@Cashcordell]

He’s definitely jealous and he’s a cornball, he be capping and lying toooo much

[@rauldelarosa4660]

K-mart is need in this Gil’s Arena Podcast

[@triggatrey2112]

Him and BJ are personal friends with Curry and he says he’s a generational player (not TALENT) all the time. Take Kmart’s advice: Stop listening to respond and try listening to understand.

[@DeeRickJames201]

Why would Gil be jealous?..Players and real fans know that Gil was a problem.Just because you're jealous of Curry doesn't mean everyone else is

[@wzrdhndrixx7089]

He hate Steph and Jordan if it ain’t what klutch told him to push

[@brookshoward3996]

Michael Jeffery Jordan is the greatest scorer ever PERIOD

[@BernardHenryMusic]

MJ also averaged the most missed shots for 7 seasons. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@leemcqueen500]

​@@BernardHenryMusicHe was still the top scorer in that times. And win 6 titles and 6 finals MVPs

[@almightysosa2830]

He can’t shoot

[@BernardHenryMusic]

@@leemcqueen500 you let me know when a player wins the finals by themselves. That's not relevant. LeBron 50.6% on 19.6 attempts from the field and Jordan 49.7% on 22.9 attempts...if they attempt the same amount of shots their scoring would essentially be identical.

[@TakablePond]

wilt avg 50 in a season 😂

[@Dranzerl]

Underrated scorer DROSE.. playing the point guard in HS made me watch every top point guard matchup during his mvp season and I hated him so much because he would score at will and make any defender look like a fool.

[@theguy8665]

Ya'll straight trippin' if you're saying Steph's not a shooter & scorer..🤔 He's just as much a scorer as any of the players you're talking about..GTFOH🤬

[@lnapjr76]

Shooter. Not scorer.

[@k-pop3159]

Agree, he’s a scorer 💯💯💯.

[@Tyler-ln6ig]

Your a child if curry didn’t have screens and klay thompson(top 5 shooter of all time) he wouldn’t have as much success scoring

[@lnapjr76]

@@Tyler-ln6ig Facts

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

Curry KD Mj Kobe melo harden best scorer in nba history

[@93vibezz]

Take out curry and put kyrie

[@TonyPajamas24]

I like this list 💯 Given him being so undersized, I’d also add Iverson

[@gsxawd981]

AI definitely needs to be up there. 4 time scoring champ!!!

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

@@gsxawd981 not better than the players I mentioned

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

@@TonyPajamas24 he’s top 6

[@kinggee5605]

Bucks Ray Allen was definitely a scorer and it amplified when he went to Seattle. When he was in the Mil he gave u a lot of rack action. He would dunk on u in a heart beat, had a very nice mid range game and he knocked it down from 3. He was complete offensively.

[@aramos888]

Kobe. It isn’t close. Where is Cemetery Larry when you need him.

[@capz0647]

The steph disrespect is crazy bro. They talking about steph need the bop bop bop dribble to score while James Harden just does the same thing 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@shhhitson5479]

or Kenyon doing the melo jab jab jab jab jab bop jab jab, it's the same thing yeah the Steph disrespect is wild

[@hakeemwoodards5569]

It's unreal to me as well. He's DEFINITELY a scorer. Shooting just happens to be his strong suit. You can't be just a shooter and average 30+. You gotta be scoring from all over. Steph does that with the best of them....

[@Darius_Icewood]

And does it in worse fashion lol James isn't even consistent throughout his career.

[@bmac6165]

Exactly! Funny thing is, Steph doesn’t dribble half as much as Harden. 😂

[@Tyler-ln6ig]

your slow steph curry had screens nd another top 10 shooter of all time to distract defenses,james harden didn’t need screens

[@timothybrooklyn3496]

Don't forget Kyrie

[@DADDYCHEST]

They don’t like him so they ignore his existence💯💯

[@xjustinian995x6]

Basically the players eligible are Elgin Baylor, Wilt, Ice Man, Alex English, Kareem, Larry, Jordan, AI, T-Mac, Vince, Grant Hill, Melo, KD, Kobe, Harden, Lebron after 2015, Paul Pierce, Dirk, Luka, Kyrie, Steph, Pistol Pete, Joe Johnson, Jamal Crawford, Vinny Johnson, Lillard, Embid All these guys have an argument to be un-guard-able and the "best" get you a bucket player on their team at a given time and even in the league for one season.

[@timhodges3754]

I would add Bernard King to your list

[@xjustinian995x6]

@@timhodges3754 100 percent thank you

[@Chill_Brill]

There criteria was 5 level scorers: At the rim(pause), freethrows, postgame, middy, 3pt. Alot of the guys you named not making this list. Imo the top 10 Jordan, Kobe, Durant, Tmac, Melo, Bird, Lebron, Dirk, Pierce, Kyrie (Embiid or Kawhi)

[@dominiqueedwards2847]

Adrian Dantley

[@RunOfTheTrill]

​@@dominiqueedwards2847 Adrian Dantley was a walking bucket. Bob McAdoo gets left out these conversations too. He was scoring champion for three consecutive years.

[@Ant-Tee]

Melo got 1 scoring title and y’all ranking him like this Jordan got 10, wilt -7, gervin-4, A.I. -4. KD-4, Harden-3 and he could’ve had more

[@marvinmj7075]

Thank you man. Harden is a better scorer than melo

[@tylersuggs11]

That’s because scoring title goes off ppg and not total points and melo could score on anybody you have to Watch the game and leave the Box scores alone

[@van2.060]

@@tylersuggs11man these cats don't know any better...they memorize the box score and google stats and have no clue about the game or what they're watching

[@marvinmj7075]

@@tylersuggs11 harden could score on anyone

[@mrlockuup9926]

@@marvinmj7075ok smartass 😂😂

[@r.louisconcepts8342]

Fire explanation on scorer that can shoot and shooter that can score.

[@MasterSlime03]

Steph a 2 time scoring champ yet he’s just a shooter lol

[@derrickhoward1543]

With insane efficiency too. These dudes are jealous haters. Always trying to discredit him.

[@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony]

@@derrickhoward1543Russ got 2 titles as well, he’s wat they said, a shooter that can score, he’s top 10 but not top 5

[@djadondaman17]

Thats fair to say from what we heard he ain't in the convo that's where pushback is

[@van2.060]

Steph shoots 12 threes a game if he hits 5 that's 15 of his 30...that's not a pure scorer is the point you're missing...that's not a pure scorer that's a great shooter

[@lnapjr76]

It's a fact. He's a shooter, nit a scorer.

[@nattyp7801]

30,000 pts-10,000 assist-10,000 rbs😂😂😂😂UG r absolutely right it’s very, very difficult to mimic (THAT).

[@OGSavage720]

All time turn over leader, soon to be most fgs missed leader, 6 finals loses, 2 bronze medals 😂😂😂 nobody trying to be like queen james the dude has a losing career

[@nattyp7801]

@@OGSavage720 Mr.logo was 1-8 in NBA finals,LeBron has 3 Olympic gold medals,Kobe has the record for most missed FG….some people make their dislike for LeBron, expose them ignorance!!!!!

[@devantebrandon6304]

@user-mv9dk4zb5c its crazy how he's gonna have the most missed field goals ever and still shoots a better percentage from 2 and 3 than Kobe and Jordan

[@nattyp7801]

@@devantebrandon6304 💯🔥👍🏾……that’s insane 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@josheasy6716]

Stfu .. u hate a next man for no reason ..

[@viconstructiongroup]

This was a great convo…

[@surgripigrip1]

Brah… Steph has TWO Scoring titles.. come on now

[@Darius_Icewood]

Yes from just pure shooting lol not all around scoring and I love Steph, no hate. Steph is by far the greatest shooter EVER and it's not a debate

[@surgripigrip1]

@@Darius_Icewood It would look that way only because Steph doesn’t need as many dribbles as Kyrie to get his shot off… that’s actually what makes Steph the greatest scoring point guard ever

[@robertdavis2179]

@@Darius_Icewoodwtf are you talking about not all around scoring watch basketball he scores from every where on the court yall just be saying stuff . Kevin Durant shoots majority mid range shots but yall don’t say that .

[@njeunguenjionwou2210]

@@robertdavis2179 Exactly what I don't get about the nonsense they always say. They make it seem like midrange is THE PLACE where the ball SHOULD be score from

[@koachcarterfilms]

Why is this a debate , Mike got 10 scoring titles .. it’s a litteral award for scoring

[@kite36]

@koachcarterfilms that’s because at some points who was his competition? Seriously. Nobody was scoring like Mike was cause half the players were on drugs and he was the leagues meal ticket and golden boy. They even said he started getting assists and rebounds that he didn’t even do because it made his image look even better.

[@kingofthenoobs]

@@kite36 They told me you retarded

[@caesarleo3702]

​@@kite36Man you better put down that pipe.

[@tonywong8134]

In 11 seasons no less.

[@Vorzilla]

He played in a centers league when 2g was the weakest position in the league

[@dooda_tmc]

Top 5 scorers MJ Kobe KD Harden … top 4 scorers all time handsdown 5th spot can be a toss up between (Ai Melo Luka TMac etc.)

[@SumoCarri]

If Steph was as one dimensional of a scorer as Gil & Kenyon try to claim he wouldn’t have did half of what he did he’s efficient from anywhere & obviously mixes it up enough how else did we end up w a layup named after him 🤦🏽‍♂️😂

[@wuggsmoove7368]

How you mention James harden and he’s the only superstar that has more career free throws than field goal attempts. That’s not impressive

[@curtaviuskenner2842]

True cause once the league took that away from him. Them averages dropped... and Melo could of been top 5 all time scoring had he not been blackballed

[@chikowashere]

Kevin Durant in my opinion. Even though LeBron rarely ever gets less than 20 points, I say KD. And it's because every time he gets the ball, I assume that he's going to make the shot. He's that consistent and that much of a mismatch because of his size. There's no other player that I feel will score no matter what. Steph might miss, Luka might miss, Jordan might. But KD and Bird are different.

[@Dukesoto-s4t]

🎯🎯

[@gsxawd981]

AI needs to be on everyone’s list. 4 time scoring champ. I hear a lot of names but scoring titles is a must on anyone who is labeled “The GOAT Scorer”. Also shot creating, finishing at the rim and clutch jean including free throws all have a part.

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

And he did this during the deadball era too while taking crazy ass shots with no other scoring threats on his team, so defenders always knew AI was going to shoot but still couldn't stop him

[@van2.060]

Y'all obviously don't know what a scorer is lol...nothing at all to do with scoring titles lol

[@swaggedout341]

Ray Allen was definitely a Scorer and was a shooter later on

[@Bob-te3le]

Facts. The disrespect is real. Ray Jesus Shuttleworth Allen was super cold with it. Obviously they don't know about Sonics and Bucks Ray Allen.

[@DERRELVIS]

I agree in a sense with them as Curry’s scoring mainly comes from his off ball movement. Acting within the flow of the offense, but it’s slanderous to say the Baby Face Assassin isn’t a Scorer.

[@Armondsantanna]

Them saying Steph and Lebron are not scorers is disgusting work

[@Coldskin1]

They left out shaq wilt and bird too

[@viconstructiongroup]

That’s my Goat and I won’t put him as a scorer… that’s why kyrie was a perfect fit… bron just the goat idk how to describe him

[@coreythomas3633]

​@@viconstructiongroupLEBRON PUT THE BALL IN THE HOLE BETTER THAN YOUR 5 LEVEL SCORER CLOWN.. 😅😅

[@lnapjr76]

Kobe was the greatest scorer ever. He got buckets EVERWHERE in EVERY WAY. Outside. Mid-range. Attacking the rim. Post-up. Iso. Pick and roll. Free throw line. Right hand. Left hand. Double-teamed. It didn't matter. Greatest scorer ever.

[@SmartPsychopat1]

No he's not.

[@Mr_07106]

🗣WRONG

[@ziginaigra]

he miss too much

[@VVVY777]

TF are these stupid idiots on about? MJ highest PPG in history in the regular season and the Playoffs. 10x scoring champ. Highest Finals PPG ever. Kobe is inferior to MJ in every single way.

[@Bob-te3le]

Jordan then Kobe

[@sw.badshot]

Vince Carter ( Underrated ) •1999 - Rookie of the year •1999 - All NBA Rookie Team •2000-2007 - 8x NBA All Star •2000 - NBA Slam Dunk Champion •TOP 6 NBA ALL TIME 3PT FG MADE •TOP 20 NBA ALL TIME SCORING LIST ( 25,430 ) •2000 - OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL CHAMPION (Sydney) •2003 - FIBA Americas Gold Medal Champion •LED the ALL STAR VOTING 4x •Top 2 in GAME Winning Shots All Time CLUTCH (check internet) •2001 - All-NBA Second Team •2000 - All-NBA Third Team •2016 - Twyman Stokes Teammate of the year award •1998 - Consensus Second Team All American •1998 - First Team All-ACC •1995 - Florida Mr. Basketball •May 11, 2001-Most 3pt FG made in 1 half (8) NBA playoffs •Only player to play in the NBA in 4 different decades

[@e.e6669]

Kobe Bryant best scorer the world has ever seen no question !

[@albmilano13]

Flat out scoring is MJ KOBE KD

[@Stopphating]

Melo>KD

[@albmilano13]

Super close but def debatable with that one

[@rashodm7129]

Wilt averaged 50 that while getting guarded by an entire starting five every game.😂😂 please stop

[@rashodm7129]

​@@Stopphatingget off drugs.

[@HTOWNTEE]

​​@@Stopphatingbullshit ... Melo up there but he ain't better than KD scoring the ball

[@ShaunDillyun]

Bron & Steph JACK OF ALL TRADES

[@JBossDaBanger]

Melo Kobe TMac Iverson KD Jordan Lebron Curry Harden Luka Gilbert/Paul Pierce Jamal Crawford Lou Williams Nate Robinson

[@DADDYCHEST]

No kyrie?

[@AsianDoug]

What they're really asking is who is the best 5 level scorer in league history. Can score on the break, can score above the break, can score 1 on 1, can score from mid range, can score on the block. Jordan, Kobe, Melo, KD are guys who could do that. Paul Pierce should be in the convo too.

[@4UnkleSloww]

Wtf is above the break ?

[@versatillion15]

@@4UnkleSlowwjust saying anything

[@hendrikdalnoot1989]

For me KD had no weakness and that’s why he’s the greatest scorer of all time

[@versatillion15]

@@hendrikdalnoot1989 his weakness is lack of aggression

[@AsianDoug]

@@4UnkleSloww It's a basketball term, maybe you're not familiar with it. Above the break means a 3pt shot that's not in the corners. The corner 3pt line is straight, right? Then it becomes curved as it gets to the top of the 3pt arc. The point where it goes from a straight to a curved line is called "the break". Scoring from 3 "above the break" , ie on the curved section, is more difficult because it is farther from the basket by a foot and a half. It's also where you find the elite pull-up 3pt shooters like Curry and Dame work their magic.

[@bellyman1783]

KD is the greatest scorer the game has ever seen

[@lamonimita3422]

How is Melo even an option? Melo NEVER had a 30ppg season. He only won ONE scoring title, with a career best of 28ppg 😂. MJ had 10 scoring titles, leads the NBA all time in PPG. No question, he is the GOAT scorer. Iverson has 4 scoring titles at 5'11 - THE SAME AS KEVIN DURANT who is a full FOOT taller than AI. Kobe had a bag deeper than the Pacific and dropped 81, two scoring titles. These three to me are the greatest scorers of the last 30 years. Melo was never the greatest scorer of his time, let alone all time 😂.

[@DaFactsNoNonsense1713]

Kareem's the best scorer ever, no debates! He had THE most unstoppable move in NBA-history, since the "SkyHook" is UNSTOPPABLE/IMPOSSIBLE to defend

[@marvinmj7075]

Lebron has the most points scored in nba history. There is a debate.

[@blackjesus6433]

​@@marvinmj707530.7ppg(NBA Record). 33ppg in the playoffs(NBA Record). 10 scoring titles(NBA Record). 63pts in a playoff game(NBA Record). Enough said. 🙏🏾

[@Dipset415]

Naw😭

[@DaFactsNoNonsense1713]

@@marvinmj7075 but Kareem has scored the MOST points, in the NBA-history, in the least amount of time + he couldn't be stopped by anyone, which matters A LOT more, since we have visual proof......records don't mean anything if you spent the MOST time trying to break them, since ANYONE could've done that if that was their only motivation to play vs. NBA "stars/superstars" always fighting to win Championships, all the time, where stats don't matter if you win.......you gotta admit, Lebron looks real NASTY, looking "old" the way he does right now, admit it.......NONE of the "greats/LEGENDS" would ever allow themselves to look like THAT, on National Television on-purpose, that's why they never chased STATS, it's too embarrassing + a "weak-sauce" thing to do.......THIS is only going to get MUCH worse for Lebron, who's clearly afraid to retire obviously because he doesn't want people to stop talking about him 24/7/365, while he accomplishes nothing, while making every excuse humanly possible, while taking "0" accountability for his failures/bad decisions/shortcomings

[@marvinmj7075]

@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 all I said is there is a debate which you prove by writing a sermon

[@larrybaldwin3002]

When your AVERAGE game is 30 points over 15 years…Then it goes up to 33 in the playoffs….What we talking about?!?!

[@MikeBNumba6]

Bingo. Nothing else needs to be said

[@dadillonful]

Perks of playing against plumbers

[@penkima4923]

@@dadillonful Plumbers? MJ played in the 90's, not in the 60's. Why is there a plumbers narrative comment in every comment section? Are you the same people who say We done with the 90's? It didn't work, so now you say every player before the 2020's played versus plumbers?

[@Coldskin1]

​@@penkima4923cause these 🤡s are just echo chambers they dont have their own opinnon

[@marioskinner4907]

@@penkima4923he played against Dan Majerle, Reggie Miller, Jon Starks, Hersey Hawkins, Jeff Hornacek, Craig Ehlo, Dale Ellis, Voshon Leonard, Danny Ainge, Dell curry, Steve Smith,… not exactly lockdown defenders 😂😂😂

[@robinini8258]

One-Two-Pull Up ri-right From the Half Court Line IS HILAAAARIOUS 13:20

[@logicalmalethink4925]

Melo= 18 shots a game… scorer Lebron= 19.6 shots a game… passer???????????? Wtf.

[@jb5146]

Because it looks different it’s not flashy they given everybody style points yet lebron was getting buckets easier then them but it wasn’t flashy

[@rashadbeckham7141]

LeBron is not a pass first

[@penkima4923]

LeBron being pass-first is a false narrative by ESPN. And it's getting old that y'all keep bringing that ish up.

[@Chill_Brill]

LeBrom has led his team in shot attempts almost every season...that's with other scorers like Dwade, Kyrie, AD as teammates

[@706Keon]

Melo shots per game went down as his role changed later in his career

[@EricStackzMyRapMentor]

7:52 it’s because bron game is not fun to watch or special he just a extremely athletic, smart with perfect fundamentals

[@Thomas-lc3hi]

Young blonde was very exciting and special we've never seen anything like him is the Superstar in his own right my goat is Michael Jordan Vanessa take nothing away from Kareem Magic Larry what's Steph to me he's the best I seen

[@EricStackzMyRapMentor]

@@Thomas-lc3hi his style in comparison to a Jordan or kobe or most scorers doesn’t look as exciting. Outside of his speed and hops his game is more simple. But it’s no knock because it’s highly effective and he’s versatile.

[@randyholliday5626]

Kevin Durant is the greatest scorer in NBA history 27.3ppg on 18.7 shot attempts 50.1% from the field 38.6% from 3 88.5% from the line 4 scoring titles and never had to lead the league in shot attempts!

[@jameswilliams1180]

Kobe had a complete game thats a scorer. Scored in every way

[@bmac6165]

Kobe was a volume shooter.

[@sethjackson2266]

Yeah for 44%....if you need to win..gimme the 50 plus guy all day and night...unless you have prime Shaq or 2 7 footers and a 90 ft tall odom...but to each their own

[@tymoore4490]

saying steph isnt a scorer is top tier hating

[@penkima4923]

He is more of a shooter than scorer. So, it's not hating.

[@tymoore4490]

@@penkima4923 no , the debate isn’t what his best skill is. It’s is he a scorer or just a shooter and by every stat and every metric Steph is a straight up scorer so like I said , saying Steph isn’t a scorer is top top tier hating

[@penkima4923]

@@tymoore4490 "no , the debate isn’t what his best skill is." Yes, it is. "It’s is he a scorer or just a shooter and by every stat and every metric Steph is a straight up scorer" The stats say Steph scores the majority of his points off of screens at the perimeter, because he's a shooter the teams wants to get open. "saying Steph isn’t a scorer is top top tier hating" Steph is a scorer secondarily, but primarily he's a high volume shooter. Some of his stats resemble a scorer's stats, but saying he's not a scorer isn't hating.

[@tymoore4490]

@@penkima4923Steph is a 3 level SCORER!! You don’t just tell Steph to sit in the corner. The fact that he happens to be the best shooter ever allows a system to be created off of that particular skill. He handles the ball , he’s one of the most efficient small guards ever at finishing around the rim , like stop Steph is a legit scorer . Calling Steph just a shooter is a lazy take and the hate radiates from it

[@penkima4923]

@@tymoore4490 3-level scorers take shots balanced across the arc. Steph takes far more threes than any other shot. He's not a 3-level scorer.

[@mr.ellerbe3898]

Epic breakdown. They defined all the Grey area. Remember the terms started here.

[@DONk3393]

Steph is the greatest scorer EVER!!!!!! You can’t leave him OPEN at ALLLLL!!!! Anybody else you can still give them space. YOU CANT LEAVE STEPH OPEN!!!!!!!!!! He’s not just a Shooter. He’s a PURE scorer of the basketball!!!!! How the FUCK is the Best Shooter on planet earth not a Scorer???? Make it make sense!!! Last time I check, Steph can do everything on the floor offensively. He has no weakness offensively. This is coming from a Kobe Fan. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@coreythomas3633]

STEPH THE GUY THAT CHOKED A 3-1 TO THE ALL TIME LEADING SCORER

[@deonross7974]

This shooter scorer, scorer shooter concept is kinda bogus.. A lot of these names mentioned have to play a role in their teams system. If they got put on another team that allowed them to be scorer first, shooter second.. we'd be calling them scorers lol. Kawhi for example on the Toronto run looked like a prime MJ bucket getting level of scoring Vs. Kawhi with the spurs. the teams systems allow players different roles and in turn that's how they're being classified. I think the metric should just be efficiency and difficulty of a players buckets. If any given night you're dropping 25+ efficiently you're a scorer in my eyes

[@jmattia24]

It's Kobe.

[@tonyjones8425]

GILBERT FUCKING ARENAS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST SCORERS IN MY LIFE!! Dude is too humble noone besides kobe was fucking with gil.

[@jekubb4348]

and gill could get it from all three levels and would post u up at the pg!

[@codyking3825]

Kobe bricks Bryant

[@van2.060]

@@codyking3825try again 🤦🏾

[@patrickmccaskill6238]

I hope you wiped yo mouth after u posted this 😂

[@meesum6]

Tmac just died huh?

[@ckygogo]

Wilt! PERIOD... 55ppg 25rpg for the season multi times

[@Darius_Icewood]

I'm a huge Wilt fan. He's top 5 in my All Time players list but Wilt played in an era where there were 6 teams, he was the tallest while everybody was under 6'9" and the game was not as crafty and hard to guard 😂 I can't see Wilt as the greatest scorer of all time.

[@bcmdrakoo38]

14:12 Mr b face when everybody said shooter 😂😂

[@kjjr3270]

Melo is not on KDs level scoring wise, especially since he heavily startet declining after 11-12 seasons, also he really wasn't efficient. KD is a player you can expect an efficient 25+ ppg EVERY NIGHT, even with 35. I think its disrespectful to KD discussing this, cause there has been no NBA player who can easily score efficient on all 3 levels like that.

[@Dukesoto-s4t]

🎯🎯

[@LegacyAstrology]

stay off the weeeeeeed! Nel got every move in his arsenal, a three pointer mid range, step back, post up, getting into the basket, plan in the paint, buckets off offensive rebounds, first step, fade away. KD cannot be in the same conversation as Melo, because he’s nothing but a jump shooter he has no post game and he barely goes to the basket😢

[@josealexis7915]

Kobe in 3 quarters have more points than curry lebron and KD jajajajajajajajajaaja oooooh and the 60 point game of lebron was vs the bobcats jajajajajaja

[@sayyyad_]

A defender you can score on 😂😂😂😂

[@captainsmoke1612]

10 scoring titles! End of debate.

[@thelivetable]

Melo gotta a better post 3 and free throw … Melo the best ever not the most ever

[@SoOoWaVyYy39]

Tracy McGrady is the best scorer ever.

[@jayday1503]

In what universe is this?

[@elcoriyodelo3ojo]

🤔 nope

[@MX_VisonaryX]

He ain a better scorer then dame lillard

[@paulnorris6067]

How they dismiss Wilt Chamberlain shows that even former NBA players don’t always know what they’re talking about! Do your research people! 70% of Wilt Chamberlain shots were fadeaways. So talking about his height is ignorant on Kenyons part! The average height of the centers he played against was 6’10”! And they actually played inside. So stop!! Wilt owns the record books

[@RyanB-b3k]

Wilt is the goat 🐐 none of you N,s know that Wilt holds all the records

[@naronaldj623]

Curry is the only guy who was the same in the video game and in real life

[@djadondaman17]

I don't play 2k since 2k18 but the game did not reflect steph unless he was hot

[@kabirmuhummid8141]

"defender you can score on " is crazy 🤣🤣

[@stevenboykin7255]

The best scorer in nba history was kareem abdul jabbar. He led the nba in all time points up until last year. KAREEM SCORED ALL OF THOSE POINTS INSIDE AND MID RANGE. HE DID IT ALL BY SHOOTING 22222222 POINTS. Kareem made one 3 pointer out of 20 years. Soooooooo if you take the top 10 scorers in history 3 points away kareem is number by thousandssssss of points. He would only lose 3 points. So, with all of his accolades since college kareem is on the rushmore over lebron in points.

[@Djhopkins41]

When McCants not on the show it’s actually a top 3 podcast

[@jaspertrocio6350]

Top 1 if he is the show

[@Darius_Icewood]

Are you kidding? McCants makes the show not feel bland. A lot of people like Rashaad on the show, it's just you

[@4a_atm]

Before I watch one second of this video, I'm coming to the comments just to let it be known... prime James Harden is the best score the NBA has ever seen in the modern day era.

[@penkima4923]

Not sure how big of a factor clutch is in this conversation. Because Harden scores like a bench player in big games.

[@4a_atm]

@@penkima4923 False, I can literally show you as much as big performances as you can bad performances, but the media only focuses on the bad.

[@Jm3rv]

Yes his stepback and euro was unstoppable but he wasnt the best scorer we’ve seen. He didnt have a 1 / 1-2 dribble pull up and no post moves. He is a natural shooter that can score

[@4a_atm]

@@Jm3rv That might have been One of the worst breakdowns of James Harden's game I've ever heard, lol.

[@Jm3rv]

@@4a_atm Then you must’ve not watched Harden. They literally say in the video he is a shooter first that can score and I am simply agreeing. He is not a 5 level scorer like Tmac, Kobe, KD etc. If you don’t agree that he abused Stepback 3s and Euro steps for fouls then I am wasting my time. He has more free throws then FGA lol. Ive been a fan of his since he went to Artesia HS here in Socal and no doubt he mastered what he did but please elaborate on how he is the greatest scorer the NBA has ever seen 🤣

[@JungleEddie]

Bird was a scorer. He could light you up with 50-60 points on any given night.

[@HonorOneAbove]

Facts

[@Bob-te3le]

Facts. Birds in my top 6 scorers with Jordan Kobe Curry Durant Melo.

[@Bostonian-American]

Wilt.

[@eldridgehenry2]

Tell Babygirl to think of LeBron as a Magic Johnson 2.0. even though he has all the points. But more of a complete player than a scorer

[@Mike-hy8cs]

its between jordan, kd, bird and kareem, and wilt if we excuse the fact he played in a weak era.

[@lukacalov1988]

Carmelo Anthony isnt the best scorer ever but he is the best offensive player (in terms of moves to score not assists and everything) There literaly isnt a thing that he cant do For example KD only does 1 or 2 dribbles or a basic cross over then shoot over people He is better scorer but not better offensive player Same goes with harden only step backs and euro steps which he travels but nobody calls or a basic crossover move Where is fadeaway,post game,mid range,dribble step back on so on

[@JfourG]

Do a head to head. AI vs Pistol, Westbrook vs James Harden, shaq vs Hakeem, pistol vs steph. Separate all the categories and do a tourny style bracket. Kareem vs wilt, Luka vs Derrik rose, Rex Chapman vs , chris Mullin etc etc

[@anthonyallday8153]

The way kenyon martin broke down playin melo was beautiful

[@2020mademeagamer]

You got - perimeter scorers - scorers / mid range scorers - post / paint scorers Curry Harden Booker Tatum Dame are perimeter scorers. Mostly jump shooters. Deep range , quick releases and you can’t really just run them off the line. A shooter you run them off the line they gotta drive it and most shooters aren’t good off the dribble. Can’t get to the basket or can’t create space to get off a good shot. Jordan Wade Lebron Kobe Melo Regular scorers are more like face up but most of those guys were slashers that learned to shoot some and their best spots are high post. They can score from anywhere but they’re best getting to the rim or most comfortable getting to the rim. So it’s like their game starts in the mid range. Usually have post games and can go off the dribble pretty well. That’s why they look the most complete because their game requires it. Kareem Hakeem Shaq Embiid Jokic these the paint scorers and the guys who usually will just push you out the way. They usually aren’t that good off the dribble like embiid and jokic can dribble FOR BIG MEN but they still slow as hell so it only does so much

[@LIBRAGOD90]

They disrespect Bron and Steph

[@kamoking4242]

New topic!!! What is the best basketball movie? Coach Carter and space jam 1 😂

[@raheemhenderson]

Shit should be at atleast 1,000,000,000 subs already. Fucks the hold up