Cliffe you have been a MAJOR inspiration for the way I talk to nonbeliever s and have chosen to study the gospels. I gave been watching you since I was 12 in the year 2000. I use to wake up early for school to watch you on local cable, thank you for being a great example of commitment and dedication to preaching the good news of Christ! Keep it up one of your biggest fan.
@cryptic3350 Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing. God Bless ❤️🙏🏼
@evadiams58043 жыл бұрын
His teaching really makes u think and evaluate your relationship with our lord.thank you!
@AR-ed8jp3 жыл бұрын
I agree. *Lord
@jax26702 жыл бұрын
This is awesome so glad I found this channel. Deleted any evil apps and channels from my life and replacing it with the Bible and uplifting influences is such a blessing
@honestly_77242 жыл бұрын
I've been obsessed with this series the past couple days, only thing I can watch. Glory to God 🙏
@Elon_Tusks Жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not alone brother. Right there with ya. Love cliffe and how he articulates his belief in Christ
@1mike60915 Жыл бұрын
Amen! I just had his videos pop up on my feed earlier this week. I've watched around 7-8 videos so far.
@maseelliott45158 ай бұрын
Same but for a month man I love cliff praise God ❤
@jiraiya45664 жыл бұрын
I usually don't comment but this video was really good!!!
@PIFF503 жыл бұрын
That’s deep
@knxcholx6 ай бұрын
13:46 aww. Stuart back there with his little girl (I'm assuming)
@davedavid29144 жыл бұрын
Need more cliffs in this world...... amazing job for our lord
@AR-ed8jp3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Agree. *Lord
@kingkingking85833 жыл бұрын
Check out Ray Comfort he dont speak in collages he speak with ppl on the streets.
@onfireforJESUS753 жыл бұрын
Truly love all of your definitions and analogies is on point especially for these young confused youths. God Bless Pastor.
@octolimar3 жыл бұрын
I may not agree with Cliffe on many things, but I love how he explains things, always makes sure the other person knows he isnt trying to be aggressive, and highlights the value every person has, whether it may be from god or not,
@CKD33324 жыл бұрын
That guy hasnt inspected Buddhism as much as he has all the false gospels, typical modern Western atheist. He is running to Buddhism because he wants to claim spirituality, but he does not want moral accountability.
@jakeschwartz25143 жыл бұрын
Remember, they are under sin. They might as well be considered asleep individuals in bondage to their flesh. They don’t know light, only darkness
@carlosbecerril33173 жыл бұрын
You sound like someone who's never studied buddhism. The teachings of buddhism hold their practitioners to a much higher degree of accountability than Christianity 😂
@rThorStone3 жыл бұрын
a Google Degree
@carlosbecerril33173 жыл бұрын
@Sonny Delos Santos there are no deities in buddhism. You are basically every one, even hitler. Also ever hear of Karma? I rest my case.
@carlosbecerril33173 жыл бұрын
@Sonny Delos Santos not really. The fact that you say I need to explain is evidence you know nothing of buddhism.
@ekimsinned1757 Жыл бұрын
Cliff is doing God’s work. I pray for him to be able to keep doing what he is doing cause thats what is sorely needed in this wold today.
@stephendesena80754 жыл бұрын
Cliffe, your ministry has helped me to evidentially live for Jesus and witness with confidence. Your ministry not only helps me grow intellectually but spiritually and emotionally as well. Thank you for all that you do, may God grow and use this ministry for his glory through such a time as this when people are shaken and have nothing to stake their lives on. May God strengthen you to continue reaching minds, hearts, and souls. God bless
@paulwilfridhunt4 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
Have you considered the possibility that gods are conceptual?
@paulwilfridhunt4 жыл бұрын
@@mickqQ yes indeed
@paulwilfridhunt4 жыл бұрын
@@mickqQ Neither do I believe in the weak pathetic ineffectual God that you don’t believe in.
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
@@paulwilfridhunt Can you define what you think a god is And tell me why you define a god that way ?
@lovedanie16993 жыл бұрын
I love the ending!!😭😭 God blees you
@rThorStone3 жыл бұрын
accept knowledge with humility because it helps you to let go of error easily.
@addyzee13352 жыл бұрын
God bless you Cliffe and Stuart 🙏
@PaulRizzo4 жыл бұрын
Oh I love it how Cliffe rips people apart and leaves them scrambling for words.
@carlosbecerril33173 жыл бұрын
Well that's kind of the point of a gish gallop. Which is all Cliffe ever does.
@JohnjOcampo Жыл бұрын
@@carlosbecerril3317 Everything cliffe says is backed up by evidence, if you feel cornered when he talks to you then maybe you need to grow in maturity.
@gingercake09077 ай бұрын
Cliff doesn’t rip people apart. The person inevitably doesn’t really know enough about the subject and they ask a question and then try to contradict the answer Cliff gives. Therefore their lack of knowledge on the subject is exposed. These people have presumptions when they ask the question and the answer Cliff gives blows their presumptions and biases out of the water. This is their hypocrisy, they can’t accept the eye witness accounts of Jesus Christ but can accept the eye witness accounts of Alexander the Great, who lived well before Christ was born. Their presumption is because it’s about Jesus Christ you can’t trust the accounts. That’s straight up Satan. Satan and his lies. Jesus is an eye witness when it comes to Satan. Read His eye witness testimony about Satan John 8:44.
@curiousgeorge5553 жыл бұрын
Cliffe is one interesting cat! God bless him for being willing to "communicate the gospel in a rather unorthodox way".
@valanasha11354 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your video Cliffe. I love listening to you and are truly gifted with how to preach to these young people. You have taught me a lot even though I am a lot older than than them. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ. 🙏❤️
@paulwilfridhunt4 жыл бұрын
Right on!!
@tyman71562 жыл бұрын
Cliffe is right, atheist are intellectual hypocrites. I just realized what cliffe meant. And it’s so true
@danielb.15674 жыл бұрын
Cliffe is awesome
@imbatman58824 жыл бұрын
"Paul personally affirms that Jesus appeared to him, so this is firsthand testimony, Paul didn't just pick up list of strangers on the street. The leading view is that he got it directly from eyewitnesses Peter and James themselves, and he took great pains to confirm it accuracy." How do you know that? Paul received this material 3 years after his conversion, when he took a trip to Jerusalem and met with Peter and James. Galatians 1:18-19 where he uses the Greek word historeo. Why is this significant? "Because this word indicates that he didn't just casually shoot the breeze when he met with them. It shows it was a investigative inquiry. Paul was playing the role of an examiner, someone who was carefully checking this out." Gary Habermas The case for Christ by Lee Strobel
@trecian7774 жыл бұрын
Good stuff 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾!
@davidwharehinga39834 жыл бұрын
Love The Teachings Through The Holy Spirit Of Christ Jesus . In Pastor Cliffe . Bless Both Him & Pastor Stuart . In JESUS CHRIST'S NAME , AMEN , AMEN , AMEN , ALLELUIA !!! ... JESUS CHRIST IS THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD TODAY !!! ... HAVE FAITH IN GOD . TRUST IN CHRIST ALONE !!! ... JESUS CHRIST IS LORD !!! ( 2020 ) ...
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
Paul said it was ok to lie to gain converts What do you think he lied about ? Paul did not get his message from Peter or James , haven’t you read his letters
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@davidwharehinga3983 careful, this guy mixed with a mess with your head be prepared.
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
@@godislove363 I as a former religious person encourages you to examine your beliefs, to asses wether 1. You have good reason to continue believing 2. You had good reasons to begin believing
@dixonbeejay3 жыл бұрын
Godbless you pastor your teaching is phenomenal I love listening to the beautiful knowledge and wisdom you have ❤️❤️
@thoms8292 жыл бұрын
"No one wants to be a bad person" then why are so many people bad?
@jonathanjosiah47333 жыл бұрын
You can study the effects of Love but you can not study Love itself, the evidence of the effect of love is what tells me there is Love that is not seen. That is Faith in Love.
@snk123054 жыл бұрын
Buddhism is so pervasive in our culture in different ways.
@doublehockeystix4 жыл бұрын
love the vid more Stuart too!
@hunterwasson94563 жыл бұрын
Used “like” a lot😭
@reggiey12323 жыл бұрын
I am still in awe how cliff hasn’t lost brain cells listening to these peoples theories that don’t align with reality. I’m sitting here and I’m like you just can’t be this dense and out of touch with reality.
@GuiltFreeTV4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful point about security Cliffe.
@ilj31684 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼,Thoughts on "Before the Wrath" movie Doco kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXmxo6aBe9WGr6s Evidence that proves the prophesied Rapture is not only real, but why it MUST come to pass. 🙏🏼
@trecian7774 жыл бұрын
One of the better of Cliffe's videos awesome stuff!
@2ruth4654 жыл бұрын
Cliffe I love how you get to the heart of the matter. You can read all the books in the world, being full of knowledge, but if you do not get to the heart of the matter using wisdom, then what is the point?
@paulwilfridhunt4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with your take on Cliffe, it’s very well put, thanks for that, and I think what we all like about what you say and his winning style, is also the way he keeps it simple and doesn’t complicate it. And it’s this along with his likeable personality, Stewart’s too, that’s expressed in rich speaking tones, certainly not a poor mouth, that entreats us to reason with him, presumably similar to Paul the apostle’s way of reasoning with the Jews in the synagogue, or even a lawyer pleading his case, provoking or challenging the jury to think much more deeply on a certain matters. It’s nice to see that he’s got all the answers or lots of good answers that pertain to God and Jesus Christ, isn’t it. He’s taught us a lot particularly how to defend the gospel of Jesus Christ. Personally I think that even though it’s counter intuitive to do so, we can greatly benefit from decreasing ourselves so that God may increase. If we are going to be real we will realise that as great as we are, which is light years greater than the snails and the whales, we are nothing compared to God. And that’s a little hard to take because nobody wants to be nothing, therefore most of us won’t take it. However our greatness has certain limits whereas God’s greatness is without limitations, so much so that we are nothing compared to Him. His greatness cannot be contained because it’s in the realm of infinity itself. There’s no limit to the greatness of God but also there’s no limit to the knowledge of God. What He is is never ending. Maybe you can figure me out in 5 minutes but understanding God takes forever. I think if we truly allow ourselves to realise that we are nothing compared to God, and that’s not an easy to do, maybe as a speck compares itself to the universe, we will see our need for Christ, our great high priest, who is God in a form that we can all relate to. And instead of seeming far off we are close to Him as friends. A real true caring friend that loves us. The cross proves this doesn’t it. Isn’t this an interesting time we are living in? Here I am writing to you, another believer, via the Internet, talking like pen pals, in a way which wouldn’t have been possible not that long ago. I’m in New Zealand. Where are you? Are you a Kiwi too or are you from somewhere else? Or is that best kept a secret?
@saraandreaneill3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@huh22754 жыл бұрын
CS Lewis - "A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line" Design, crooked bodies, harm, destruction of design... Good vid btw
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
Who defines what a straight line is ?
@huh22754 жыл бұрын
@@mickqQ Self-evident, or, if not, the one who made them.
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
@@huh2275 Made them ? Who decided “ we will call this a straight line “ “ we will call this a crooked line” “ we will call this black “ “ we will call this white” “ we will call this grey” It is us that defined a straight line , and a crooked line It’s us that defined black , white, and the grey in between
@huh22754 жыл бұрын
@@mickqQ We decided what to call it, but it was that way before we gave it a name
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
@@huh2275 Yes We defined what it is and where it meant No one told us that it was a straight line, we came up with that concept In the exact same way we came up with the concept of good and bad
@amanuelberhe41493 жыл бұрын
When I see these kids it reminded me the verse when Jesus said " they hate me without cause". The world of God is not in vain and it is true people hate Jesus but they believe on fairytales and madness this world.
@moiseuwamungu55883 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@googletaqiyya1844 жыл бұрын
Do you want to live in a Heaven with non-repentant practitioners of evil for all eternity? You may want to but leave the label and keep your Hell. I'll take the Heaven described in the Bible thanks.
@joshuaromero90883 жыл бұрын
Cliffe Knechtle Vs. Ben Shapiro on Jesus, Epic debate..
@Delroy613 жыл бұрын
I saw Ben debate Ravi Zacharias, I think Cliffe would fair better. Less philosophical stories.
@JustSamOfficial4 жыл бұрын
Great talk...
@Sir-Chancelot3 жыл бұрын
I think we have seen the second guy numerous times. Either this is from the same day or he comes around a lot
@onfireforJESUS753 жыл бұрын
So many people living the spiritual and just doing good thing figure that is enough. Idolatry is running rampant, creating their own God with no moral accountability, or living in Sin.
@843cory3 жыл бұрын
💯🌟
@flickedbic4 жыл бұрын
At 15:14 the discussion on authorship I'm surprised Cliffe didn't jump to mention that Paul actually does have verified authorship.
@aviatordanz3 жыл бұрын
I can of am too seeing since we can confirm Pual wrote at least half of his letters (and essentially told the 1st century equivalent of his secretary to write the other ones based on what he said)
@flickedbic4 жыл бұрын
7:35 "There's the physical, the emotional, and I'm saying there's spiritual, God... and the reason you can believe in God is you know that goodness and love are nonphysical but real!" But then they cut away to the next segment without hearing the student respond, probably would have went like "But Cliff, I already said goodness is subjective. And love is simply emotion, not a proof of the spiritual or God."
@jordandthornburg4 жыл бұрын
He knows that’s false though. He’s just posturing this belief so he can sin. It’s really that simple for 99.9% of self proclaimed atheists. That gets to the real heart of the matter
@flickedbic4 жыл бұрын
@@jordandthornburg I don't think that's true, that 99.9% of people are lying when they say they don't know if there's a god. I think there's more honest folk than 1 out of 1000 there...
@michaelszczys8316 Жыл бұрын
The Bible is written so well and has such irrefutable information that if it was put together 100 years ago I would believe it just as much.
@diogogouveia33174 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me if it is normal to use the word "like" every single 2/3 words one says?
@jordandthornburg4 жыл бұрын
It isn’t.
@rrod79583 жыл бұрын
Ever notice how atheist never have an answer to cliffe questions? We are in deep trouble with this younger generation running their pc world
@theoskeptomai25353 жыл бұрын
You should know how easy it is, Cliffe!
@RebelXero3 жыл бұрын
This was a badass video!
@vicentejimenez39872 жыл бұрын
16:22 there’s a lizard running in the background
@kevinreynaga63403 ай бұрын
Hope you've had a nice couple years since u made this comment... I believe that's a squirrel
@DavidKfilmmaker3 жыл бұрын
If the kid would study the Bible instead of studying the people who set out to disprove the gospels, he’d see such intricate design only ascribed to One Divine Author.
@johndavis70783 жыл бұрын
Dear first college kid, at the 4:50 mark you said "Nobody wants to be a bad person". This couldn't be more wrong! I am sorry to sound like a bummer to you but that is flat out not true. As nice as it is to think of this world as a place where people try hard to be a "good person", you must understand there are some people out there that do not care at all if you live or die. I am sorry to burst your bubble but there are streets in this country where if you walk down them at night you will get jumped from behind, beat to a pulp, all of your valuables will be taken and they will leave you there to die if not found. You can find these mean streets in: Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Miami, L.A., N.Y., Dallas, Memphis, Cincinnati......on and on. It is not true people just want to be good. Some people just want to beat you up, rob you of your $5.00 and get away with it without being caught. The most important thing to them is not being caught. Never underestimate what a crackhead will do when they run out of drugs. Again, I am sorry to sound so doom and gloom but you have a very innocent way of thinking about humans. Not all humans want to be nice.
@TreenighetMaranata8 ай бұрын
4:49 The guy said: "No one wants to be a bad person"! Have you completely missed what is going on in the world, so all the evil that is being done has been accidentally stumbled upon? What a naively gullible worldview! ✝
@tyman71562 жыл бұрын
Atheist are saying they don’t believe in God, but yet they follow his guidelines on how to be like Christ lol. Intellectual hypocrite
@Kimkong24 жыл бұрын
To the first guy . Cliff has made this point numerous times and I’m glad that it’s always a different person and sometimes a different crowd . Intellectual hypocrisy is the beginning of ALL hypocrisy. Because like Cliff said , it’s real easy to just ignore . What baffles me is the people in the comment section that keep ignoring this whole point with no solid reason, just opinions. A second to intellectual hypocrisy is double standards. The atheist not only demands objective evidence but they demand subjective ,objective evidence from a theist . They always want some special type and amount of evidence but also want it to be objective 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ if they had any of these standards to any kind of historical figure they would not believe in nearly 3/4 of historical figures they believe in . Also, as soon as you find any objective truth that points towards some type of a God , they use relative opinions to disagree. The second to last guy is definitely in his early stages of KZbin atheism . Which is not based on truth or evidence , but in poking holes and that’s it . This is why after evidence is asked they shut down , and usually on KZbin comments they turn hostile or just ignore you .Bless his soul . I hope he learns to look more into the evidence and realize , what you are not looking for will probably not find you , so if you have already presupposed that God doesn’t exist , of course then miracles don’t exists . But that’s a presumption, which atheists often love to call out , yet they blatantly make arguments against miracles but don’t know if there is a God or not ! 🤦🏾♂️
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@bonnie43uk4 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of historical figures we have good evidence for Fred, that's not the case with Jesus. During his life and ministry, when he was supposedly performing amazing feats and wonders, not a single person wrote about him while he was alive... including his own followers. That is an historical *fact* It takes a certain amount of belief to believe a man could fly, and came from above the clouds. 2000 years ago that may well have seemed plausible, but not today... unless of course you've been raised to believe that from birth. We know the exact birthdate of Julius Ceasar and the exact day of his death, and we have clear images of his face on statues and coins. What day was Jesus born and died?
@Kimkong24 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk oh You mean Ceasar , of which two of the most important manuscripts were written over 100 years after his death ?! And of course you will have his day of birth and death , he was a major ruler !!! That information has to be stored up. So lemme get this straight because Jesus had no face on a coin or something like that and we don’t know the exact day of His death and Birth but they are the most celebrated of days you don’t consider the manuscripts?!!! Have you even read my post ? This is why I’ve stopped taking you seriously Tom , the post literally called to the intellectual hypocrisy and ridiculous double standards of you KZbin atheists . You want subjective objective evidence and you just showed it by once again ignoring context. You don’t look for the same evidence for every kind of person Tom . You can’t cherry pick evidence especially historical evidence . Nearly all scholars agree to an empty Tomb . Where they disagree is the reason it is empty . Which also is ridiculous and evidence of bias against the supernatural. Has nothing to do with evidence, just bias . But as usual of you and other KZbin atheists Tom , all of us Christians were just born and taught this and cannot think for ourselves. All of us except you , you who was so smart to just figure it out all by yourself. Unfortunately Tom , you and the second guy are the same in intellectual hypocrisy, difference is the young man is still young and his youth can be a reason for the naive way of thinking , you on the other hand are still clinging to arguments of a young man which you are definitely not. You don’t have to believe in Jesus , nobody does , but just remember, if He is who He says or who the writers said He was , the consequences will not change because you chose not to believe . Because I know like a child again , you hold the thought process that “if I don’t believe it then i don’t have to deal with it’s consequences.” Of course you don’t hold this belief with anything else apart from God because it’s obviously foolish to not be looking for something , and then conclude that because you didn’t see or find it then it doesn’t exist. At least the kid could actually be innocently ignorant , you are hopelessly ignorant because you revel in this ignorance willingly . This whole video was for you , you ignored even the manuscript evidence and how close it was to Jesus’ time and gave an example of Ceasar whose manuscripts are well over 100 years after His death . Your baseless intellectual pride will keep you ignorant by making you think you know . Good day Tom .
@Kimkong24 жыл бұрын
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Right?! The fact that a nobody like the man Jesus can even make it to a point where He can be compared to Ceasars and other prominent rulers is evidence enough on its own. But no, we are all just indocrtinated and not aware of it. All except him, who somehow woke up since he was supposedly a christian himself.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk @Fred Kimani @saint paul I said I wouldn't be on here after last night so I know it seems like a lie I apologize. You guys don't know if you guys don't know why I got off last night and I'm not going to get into why but after I just read what I read I've got to say something. First of all Fred in St Paul excellent job excellent job that you Fred where is Heidi Express Lee friend because Fred really gave a long dialogue to what time deserve to hear specifically today Saint Paul's already been trying to do it for a long time just as I have. Try to both of you I wish I could explain to you why I'm going to try to stay off your but I know it's kind of hard all I know is there's too much evil going on and right now it's not healthy for me and if God tells me it's not healthy for me it's not healthy. Here's the the two things I said I wanted to mention and Tom attention you hear that Tom pay attention you hypocrite. First of all everything Fred told you is true you're a liar Tom Fred is not. Second of all, and this is not for Paul or Strat but if they want to hear this that's good there is records of Jesus's birth and there is records of Jesus death but since you don't know your Bible Tom you don't pay attention to crap. As far as his birth the reason why it is celebrated as the 25th of December only because of paganism clearly paganism. That does not mean that uses first wasn't wholly or important but if you reach reference scripture of when Elizabeth was given birth of John the Baptist verses when Mary was going to give birth to Jesus to 6 months apart and if you read when Elizabeth gives birth and you add to 6 months it's actually right around September and I need another reason why you can do that is to get the shepherd offers usually do what they do around September not December is over evidence to but those are two points I wanted you to know look up Tom pay attention use your brain for once. Jesus's death is easy to trace because he was died or killed on the cross street of me after preparation day separation day was that Friday or Passover Sabbath and he died little leave at night into Saturday Saturday the Sabbath when she slept which is also why I recognize Sabbath is Saturday not a Sunday but that's a different discussion not because I'm Jewish because I'm not, anywho, when Jesus died on Sabbath and Rose on Sunday morning that was that time of that Passover way Easter began and we know when Easter begins now Easter is also a pagan holiday but I don't care right now we're talkin about timeframes not holidays the fact is that is right around that Springtime of March and April that's how you can know when he died of that year can if you want to know the year Tom you look it up I can tell you the year he died I can tell you the year he bought he was born I know the time because I study my scriptures but I'm not doing everything for you Tom you lazy ass stop Line stop telling people the wrong stop telling people you know what you're talkin about you're a hypocrite you're a complete fraudTom goodbye.
@marklinnell6904 жыл бұрын
That guy in the Winnie the Pooh sweater is handsome
@ChiefCedricJohnson Жыл бұрын
John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
@guywhoisnotbob3 жыл бұрын
Loving others as they are you is contained within loving God with your all. Atheistically, one could arrive at the same conclusion by observing the continuity of the universe and acting on all as though all is a part of themselves. Both religion and atheism have conceived this sort of "ghost in the machine" concept of separation where we imagine ourselves a separate being from the rest of existence. We have yet to discover this "separate being" in either materialist or spiritual pursuits. Love fulfills the total law and is simply the acceptance of other as self.
@Lerian_V4 жыл бұрын
I'm second. Praise God!
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
Which one ?
@Lerian_V4 жыл бұрын
@@mickqQ @2:28 mins kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHO0hKR-p7pqpNU
@jasonnoble78144 жыл бұрын
Mick Q Good question 💪
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
@@Lerian_V Why the desert war god of a tribe of Bronze Age goat herders from the Sinai peninsula?
@Lerian_V4 жыл бұрын
@@mickqQ I don't know the desert war god you speak of. Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHO0hKR-p7pqpNU
@2ruth4654 жыл бұрын
It’s rather odd that an atheist is willing to accept that unguided processes eventually produced a human being while not being able to accept that an all powerful God can not only create a human, but also raise one from the dead. It does not work in the atheists favor as the position they take requires a greater miracle to occur yet they do not have a miracle worker.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
Amen to that.
@bonnie43uk4 жыл бұрын
Surely it's better to admit we don't know what caused those first signs of life to come about billions of years ago, than to come up with a God hypothesis. It's better to doubt and to slowly find things out about the planet we live on, than to make up stories which may well be wrong. We used to believe that the earth was flat, and that the Sun revolved around us ... that turned out to be wildly wrong on both counts, yet everyone assumed it to be the case.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk you just proved the point of the fraility of science and why more data is necessary, history, archeology little philosophy andTheology.
@sirajaxl4 жыл бұрын
@@godislove363 But aren’t you already certain that the earth is 6000 years old, and the ancestors of every human and animal on the planet today disbursed from a mountaintop in the Middle East 4500 years ago? I mean certain such that you cannot be wrong? I’m just curious why you would think more research and expiration is necessary when the answers have been written.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@sirajaxl you missed my point what I said to you is true about being a 6000 year old's worst etc etc etc how animals and people came about none of that has changed for me but because of all the atheist agnostic and others that I spoken with who don't understand or choose to believe the logic in this not just the faith but the logic that is why I prescribed what I said to you. Because science is forever changing as human beings we know not everything so therefore we will keep discovering that's a given I never said we wouldn't as long as God allows us to discover it will be there for us to find. But be that as it may because science is forever changing you are going to have to keep searching for your own knowledge to find was true if you don't also have faith and I guarantee you you'll just keep searching and searching because you'll never be satisfied unless you to connect the dots to what I said was logical and it's very simple, you can't get nothing from nothing you can't get something from nothing it's just nothing so unless you have a Creator who created this ever-expanding universe that you have a Creator who first made man which by the way he did personally with his own hands versus the animals he spoke into existence sissy that one is much more intimate he loves his animals he loves creating the animals but the creation of man with God was so more intimate.
@catemurage87723 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌❤️
@rashedduzzamanrubel801210 ай бұрын
4:142. The Hypocrites - they think they are over-reaching God, but He will over-reach them: 2:10. In their hearts is a disease; and God has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves). -(Quran) (By the misuse of Quran, their disease is increased.)
@doubriewotsit40904 жыл бұрын
Goodness is just what gets you closer to a goal. If your goal is to do what god wants then good is what you think he wants and bad is what you think is sin. But without god, goodness is what gets you closer to the society you want to live in and badness is what gets you further away from the society you want to live in
@paulwilfridhunt4 жыл бұрын
So do you believe in God?
@doubriewotsit40904 жыл бұрын
@@paulwilfridhunt Can’t see any reason to
@paulwilfridhunt4 жыл бұрын
@@doubriewotsit4090 are you looking ?
@paulwilfridhunt4 жыл бұрын
@@doubriewotsit4090 I guess that means you’re not doing a whole lot of looking.
@doubriewotsit40904 жыл бұрын
@@paulwilfridhunt I would want to know if it were true but have no reason to even suspect it might be.
@victorparkinson33163 жыл бұрын
People just don't wanna take a leap of faith in God.
@andrewchochola75845 күн бұрын
No offence intended, but people should not start raising objections until they have at least some understanding of what they're talking about. Raising objections to something without studying the issue is a surefire way to embarrass yourself. That second student was an embarrassment to himself and his belief system because he started raising objections, not knowing what he's talking about.
@doubriewotsit40904 жыл бұрын
The point is I don’t believe in absolutely right and absolutely wrong. So I understand people can choose purpose I find disgusting. It’s not right and wrong I appeal to, it’s my perspective on what society I want to live in. I join with others who want to live in a similar world to create that. What’s hypercritical about that?
@jordandthornburg4 жыл бұрын
You know rape is wrong absolutely, you just verbally deny it because your worldview forces you to.
@doubriewotsit40904 жыл бұрын
@@jordandthornburg In respect to the goal of living in a world where we all have the best chance to be safe and happy, rape is wrong. Absolutely wrong if you like. So what? Still don’t need to appeal to any transcendent mind to reach that conclusion. What’s the problem?
@doubriewotsit40904 жыл бұрын
@@jordandthornburg My point is it’s not wrong because it’s an objective wrong, or wrong because a god says so, it’s wrong because it causes harm. That’s not hypercritical in any way.
@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe2 жыл бұрын
Great biblically based info, Cliffe. Remember, Yeshua/Jesus does not turn the other cheek when he returns as the Conquering King. Cheeks have been turned for thousands of years. The day of God's righteous wrath will be time for judgment. To comfort those persecuted by Man.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm going to leave a copy and paste type message on the other videos as well. As of today except for one particular video with one particular thread I will no longer be on here I tried to stay off a couple weeks ago but I felt compelled to continue to try that no longer is true. It is obvious to me no one on here relevant to the discussions are truly interested in discussing any matters what are the scientific religious philosophical psychological or otherwise. If they were truly looking for Destruction a what do that they would not be little evade put down lack Integrity Etc I am not saying this to avoid discussions I'm not saying this to hide I've been doing this for years and the people in here who know me well know that what I'm saying to you is real cuz I am a consistent loving as much as possible person who wants to talk with others and help there's only two atheist on here did I have respect for scrapping consistent in their beliefs who actually spoken with me or conversed as well as hell to their position doubting evidence but it's still there evidence and they've been consistent fair and appropriate I won't need them out of respect for them they should know who they are direct review the rest of you will be judged One Day by your actions just as I will be which I know you don't believe in but I don't care I've done everything I can buy conscience private I wash my hands of it like Jesus when he walked away in the shadows I will too goodbye. Oh yes, a final side note because I don't want to get any weird messages of criticism, leave it at peace if my microphone messes up as slowly as I am speaking I can't help it because it sometimes has a mind of its own and puts words I don't say I'm legally blind I do my best to keep it tight by hand when I can or use this recorder if you don't like it then don't worry about it but don't put me down to make fun of me anymore the people have a worldview where they say they know better than Christians they don't act like it.
@alienpick14 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is Lord 👑🙏Maranatha
@jasonnoble78143 жыл бұрын
How do you know?
@mr.zombie16173 жыл бұрын
@@jasonnoble7814 they’re most likely convinced based off evidence in the Gospels. How do you know he’s not?
@jasonnoble78143 жыл бұрын
@@mr.zombie1617 Why are you convinced “I know he's not ?”
@shaqspalace95074 жыл бұрын
I'm First Praise God!!
@jasonnoble78144 жыл бұрын
Shakir Muhammad Which one ?
@Apologia54 жыл бұрын
Why does Cliffe often argue for "some type of God existing" rather than the Trinitarian God/Jesus of the Bible? I know that sometimes he does but I've seen lots of videos where he merely argues for a generic God of theism. He says the exact things that Muslims and Mormons would say :(
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
He sometimes is generic as you put it as some kids have mo comprehension otherwise, milk before meat.
@Apologia54 жыл бұрын
@@godislove363 So are you saying that some kids can comprehend a timeless spaceless immaterial God easier than Jesus and His command to repent and believe? The existence of God is definitely meat, not milk. Also if scripture is our model I don't see Jesus or his followers trying to convert non believers with Cliffe's approach.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@Apologia5 heck no never, when I speak with many on here, even Christians who only acknowledge God or the Fsther, sounds odd but true and even then many college kids faith are hollow or in name only. They need to learn the truth of God first then show them Christ and the Father are One.
@Josiahministries4 жыл бұрын
he's just planting the seeds for the kids to believe that God exists. college kids won't even think about following christ unless they first believe God exists. he knows that this is America and Christ is usually what the kids grew up with, and that they will come back as long as they believe in God again (that's my opinion).
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@Josiahministries exactly as I was expressing.
@gingercake09077 ай бұрын
Unbelievers don’t get it. If you don’t believe God and don’t live God’s morality but your own nothing you do is wrong. So robbing , killing, lying none of those things are wrong to do. So relative morality says I am the only one who is right and whatever I decide to do is right, no matter who I hurt. I am never wrong. That’s idolatry, no matter how you want to say it.
@sirajaxl4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a lot of videos where this guy talks about his atheist friends. Is there anyone out there who really believes these “friends“ exist?
@peterosudar16364 жыл бұрын
Yes, friend.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@peterosudar1636 yes I do believe him and also so you know I have friends who are atheist and or agnostics and or have changed meaning they were a fish now they're believing in God or vice versa so it is quite possible that another human being in the world can have those friends.
@peterosudar16364 жыл бұрын
@@godislove363 this word 'friend" is quite complex... never mind the concept... or getting into "the real thing"... Cliffe always gives everyone so much to contemplate. The question is... will we continue to yell at the moon or will we do something... Or maybe yelling at the moon is doing something... All the best.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@peterosudar1636 lol, okay, it is interesting how people keep speaking from extremes.
@peterosudar16364 жыл бұрын
@@godislove363 It will be even more interesting when it stops...
@IBenZik11 ай бұрын
People have value because they are people; you mean like Soylent Green?
@GameShark84 Жыл бұрын
as much as i like listening to him, i feel he is pandering to the youth when he bashes the "defensive" Crusades and the colonialism. The Crusades where started in defense of the militaristic expansion of the the Muslims starting in Arabia, in fact the Crusades started after the Muslims invaded as far as Spain, very late after their invasions. Colonialism had both positive and negative effects in the world, it didn't necessarily spread slavery, because slavery was already present in the Americas by the natives, in Africa and Asia. But, eventually Christianity destroyed institutional slavery before the cultures that established slavery in the first place before Western Culture did.
@jasonnoble78143 жыл бұрын
Pure comedy 😂
@jessebryant92333 жыл бұрын
Noble = pure troll. Tell us about your atheism. That would be "pure" comedy... or would it be "tragedy"? Hm... LOL
@jessebryant92333 жыл бұрын
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 By "pure comedy" he was referring to himself... 😜
@jasonnoble78143 жыл бұрын
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 😂
@marke.83342 жыл бұрын
If y'all haven't seen a documentary called... It's worse then you think... By revelations of Jesus Christ ministry... I suggest you do... All praise and glory to the most high Jesus Christ
@jkkkkkdmmmdkkkdm23 күн бұрын
8:10 "athiesm doesnt tell the whole story". So who made god? which god made god?
@royalzano811419 күн бұрын
U may have seen another video of him by now where he explains it, but as a quick summary- The universe has a beginning and thus needs a cause God has no beginning and thus has no cause
@ephemeralenhancement9445 Жыл бұрын
"The gospels were written after the writers would have died" "One was written 30 years after his death." And the student still argued it. Does he think all the disciples died like a year after Jesus 🤦. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
@MemeQueen_3 жыл бұрын
Is there a wrong way to Repent?
@leoacevedo71253 жыл бұрын
Probably lip service rather than actually coming from your heart
@tyman71562 жыл бұрын
He said “ no one wants to be a bad person” lol well, how do you know what a bad person even is apart from God telling us?
@MyRoBeRtBaKeR3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Cliffe. I was an alcoholic, drug user and I smoked cigarettes, WAS. I didn't need chemicals, I didn't need a psychiatrist nor did I need to be locked away to break free from these addictions. It only took God, coming to the end of myself and applying His Word to my every day life and I was then able to break every single one of them addictions at the same time. Hold on, I was also a womanizing fornicator and that to was broken and yes it took only praying, as in constant communication with God and through the power of the Holy Spirit and love of Christ to break em. We keep putting limits to what God can accomplish within us, even cliffe is doing it. We can do all things through Jesus Christ whom gives me the Holy Spirit/strength! This is where it starts, if you apply this scripture to your life you will break free from anything, even depression! Psalm 1:1-2 King James Version 1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
@colonalklink142 жыл бұрын
Are you sinlessly perfect?
@darlalei43033 жыл бұрын
To reject God and Jesus because a loved one passed on is so sad. Did he not accept her physical death? I can love someone after they have passed and I may forever never see them again.
@leoacevedo71253 жыл бұрын
It was a thought that ran through my mind when my brother passed. I had hope and some faith that my brother took his final moments to reach out to God but there was still doubt and uncertainty that my brother was saved. God later revealed to my family that He saved my brother. 😭🙏🏻❤
@jasonnoble78144 жыл бұрын
Goal of well being determine good from bad not an ultimate authority
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
No.
@jasonnoble78144 жыл бұрын
Jacob Fongemie Demonstrsten the Christian God Just heading out in my buddies truck to hammer down a few 🍺🍺and get muddy Live is so good 👍 Let me know if you can demonstrate God
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@jasonnoble7814 I do everyday when I love others whom do not deserve it as Christ does for me.
@jasonnoble78144 жыл бұрын
Jacob Fongemie Richard Feynman ”The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool.” First principal...C’Mon bud 🤷♂️
@paulwilfridhunt4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonnoble7814 Can we demonstrate God? Hmmmm? All philosophical new concepts or ideas take time to be digested. It doesn’t happen overnight. The popularity of atheism is relatively new. It’s yet to be fully digested. All the pros and cons are yet to be spitted out. And as great as we are in this day and age we are no greater than the great thinkers when intellectuals like Plato and Socrates were around. And they, after kicking it around, it didn’t happen over night, it took time, concluded that God or Gods existed. And they arrived at this conclusion that although the idea of the non existence of God appealed to them, nevertheless they eventually realised that as much as they wanted it to be true, there was no way it could be true. When today’s society eventually comes to that same conclusion, yes it’ll take a while, atheism will die out.
@johnyang14203 жыл бұрын
Not sure why Cliffe is not a Catholic. The scriptural, historical, and logical proof points to the fact that Jesus started the Catholic church. Read the Early Church fathers. Catholic church is the one true church of Jesus. Check out book Why We Are Catholic by Trent Horn or thecatholictruth.org. God bless you!
@maxstooksberry94583 жыл бұрын
Hey John. For why myself am not catholic is because there are things in the Catechism that contradict the Word of God. Regeneration Baptism, unsure of salvation, mortal sins, and purgatory are not evident in the Bible. We are saved in the moment and only when we repent and place our faith in Christ alone for salvation. Ephesians 2:8-9
@NeoiconMintNet4 жыл бұрын
There’s only irrational arguments for an imaginary friend you call God. The source of the issue is that if god could exist and he created everything, he would be responsible for his creation, but instead he is blaming his creation for his flaws. That is a bad example or reason so many don’t take responsibility for their actions.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
No.
@NeoiconMintNet4 жыл бұрын
@@godislove363 you have so many words for a vocabulary and expression (sarcasm) , so I'll give the only other one you understand: yes.
@jordandthornburg4 жыл бұрын
There’s only irrational arguments for an accidental cause of the universe friend, with all due respect. God created creatures with the ability to do good or bad. If they choose to do bad voluntarily (which they do) then they are rightly held responsible for that.
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@@jordandthornburg yes.
@NeoiconMintNet4 жыл бұрын
@@jordandthornburg you claiming that some imaginary friend you call god made something, is your opinion without valid proof, so you are still wrong. If there is a creator then his design would dictate our behavior because he’s responsible for his actions - his creation. You are like a delusional child that believes in fairytales as being real. You are confused and lost.
@patrickkozak9490 Жыл бұрын
The thing about GOD people struggle with but is awesome is how does he do or make what he did ? we don't know hoe he did it ,, But he did it Some How
@Gorfvan4 жыл бұрын
Every atheist in the world could be a hypocrite and it still wouldn’t make your god real. Knowing goodness is real does also isn’t proof of a god. Goodness is a manmade concept. Its nothing more than a label. If goodness was objective it wouldn’t change. And we know thats what is good has changed. Its hilarious to hear all the assertions then he demands evidence when it comes to the time of the manuscripts.
@MadMax-vy9hk Жыл бұрын
This dude, really need to check out the shroud of Turin? I totally believe one day that that will be proven that the resurrection actually happened. It will be just another witness to Jesus and his amazing life and resurrection
@jasonnoble78144 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right absolutely wrong all the time is a logical fallacy cliff
@jasonnoble78144 жыл бұрын
Derrick Crawley I act as though I'm right until I'm proven wrong Cliff uses religious faith that can not be falsified so he can make claims of absolute truth that can not be challenged from his point of view or worldview I use reason and my claims can be falsified The only absolute we can find is ”everything is in a state of political” The theory of everything Research it 👍
@godislove3634 жыл бұрын
@Derrick Crawley absolutely but he won't admit it.
@jessebryant92333 жыл бұрын
Are you absolutely sure?
@yokiryuchan76552 жыл бұрын
Pretty much everything that kid said about the gospels was wrong. That's what happens when you don't bother to do any research yourself. and just go off what you hear from other people.
@jasonnoble78144 жыл бұрын
consciousness does not demonstrate objective reality
@jessebryant92333 жыл бұрын
How do you know?
@godislove3633 жыл бұрын
@@jessebryant9233 Jason still has not answered this either.
@jackalsgate11463 жыл бұрын
Cliffe is using the term "Universal Mind" to describe God, which is, a Hindu and Buddhist origin. Two face much, Cliff.?
@mayankwankhede17823 жыл бұрын
That's one of the characteristics of God. Bro. It's not just Hindu or Buddhist.
@jackalsgate11463 жыл бұрын
@@mayankwankhede1782 Hate to break it to you; but, the Universal Mind originated with the Hindus, not Christianity. Show me one verse in the Holy Bible with the term Universal Mind because you can't. If the Universal Mind is one of the characteristics of your god; then, your Holy Bible must surely speak on it. Your Bible doesn't speak about it and you never read it in the Bible. You are either repeating what someone else told you or you are just assuming and you don't really know. But the Hindu Vedas wrote about it thousands of years before Christianity was even heard of. What do we mean by Universal Mind.? It certainly isn't the mind of a god that thinks, plans and creates. The Universal Mind is a name given to the sum of the states of consciousness of every man and is referred to as Sophia, the Holy Ghost. Every man has a higher-mind {not to be confused with the brain}, and the sum total of every man's mind, is what's referred to as the Universal Mind. The Universal Mind does not think; for, the Universal Mind is thought itself. Only man has the capacity to think. It is not literally the mind of the universe or a god, as if, God could have a mind like you and Cliff claims he has.
@mayankwankhede17823 жыл бұрын
@@jackalsgate1146 well its not my bible. I don't deny Hinduism first talked about the universal mind. I have read a few verses from the Gita and Upanishad in sanskrit too. It seems like it's just a difference in definition. In hindusim the 3 gods Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh form the idea of Universal power. It's not just the capacity to think of humans. These gods have an actual role and they think.
@jackalsgate11463 жыл бұрын
@@mayankwankhede1782 With all due respect you are incorrect. 1) BRAHMA (Sk.) - The student must distinguish between Brahma the neuter, and Brahmâ, the male creator of the Indian Pantheon. The former, Brahma or Brahman, is the impersonal, supreme and uncognizable Principle of the Universe from the essence of which all emanates, and into which all returns, which is incorporeal, immaterial, unborn, eternal, beginningless and endless. It is all-pervading, animating the highest god as well as the smallest mineral atom. Since Brahma is immaterial, unborn, beginningless, endless, and infinite: it does not have a brain and is incapable of thinking; for, it is thought itself. The ability to think is different then thought. And since mankind has a brain and he is a part of Brahma mankind holds a greater share. All of the ocean is part of the wave and all of the wave is part of the ocean. The tide rolls in and the tide rolls out. Man is on this earth to learn in order that he might use that knowledge he has gathered for the next plain of existence. A spirit cannot think that is why a man must gather information while he is alive. And that is why man controls the gods instead of being controlled by the gods.
@mayankwankhede17823 жыл бұрын
@@jackalsgate1146 well if you are correct. By that logic there is no God. It's just is. So whatever we decide is correct. Falls back into relative morals and it doesn't really matter. The Hindu three also have Vishnu and Shiva. Now they can also be just nature, so you still wipe out a basis for morality.
@milesregalado75042 жыл бұрын
Many think being an athiest is smart and cool hehe
@somerandom76724 жыл бұрын
168th!
@aaenlathechanter57133 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling this boy is a biological girl.
@anthonyharty17322 жыл бұрын
The way this Cliffe guy stoops down to the same level as the ones he is talking to is annoying it’s a manipulation move. He then uses another manipulation technique by saying “I like you” to try and get people on his side. He talks religious NONSENSE!!!!!
@GiovanniGerman4 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️
@jasonnoble78144 жыл бұрын
Giovanni German why ?
@lovedanie16993 жыл бұрын
You think hitler didn’t producr dopamine😂😂 there are people that think killing is good! So dopamine is not the proof that we do Good for societal reasons etc
@doubriewotsit40904 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree that the only way is to appeal to transcendent mind. What makes us safe and happy is enough
@doubriewotsit40904 жыл бұрын
@Jimmy The Pink Yeah and the rest of us, not wanting to live in a society where people torture any sentient creatures, set up societal rules and norms that push behaviours like that out or lock people away if they do. You don’t need to appeal to a higher being for that
@taowaycamino48914 жыл бұрын
That's just a claim you both are making but there is no evidence for any of that.
@doubriewotsit40904 жыл бұрын
@@taowaycamino4891 What claim am I making that has no evidence? That we make societal rules against behaviour we don’t want in society? I think that is well evidenced.
@LadyC265 Жыл бұрын
The gnostic gospels are just poorly written Jesus fanfic 🤷🏼♀️
@cpt.kimintuitiondemon4 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself why Cliffe has to lie about others when he preaches...
@christisking13164 жыл бұрын
Pray tell us then, what does he lie about?
@angeloflight22104 жыл бұрын
Honestly what does he lie about? He goes straight to the heart of the issue, to it logical conclusion, doesn’t beat around the bush like many people do, if you don’t respond, it goes show that you call him a liar, but no evidence to back it up, don’t dig yourself a hole brother, God bless!
@cpt.kimintuitiondemon4 жыл бұрын
@@christisking1316 I realise i will not convince or change someones mind here, all i can say here is : Cliffe tells you that there is only two possibilities: or you get absolute morality from a god (devine command) and or you do not and you can't critique or object to other systems of morality (what he calls hypocritical or "you have to live it out"). That false dichotomy is his lie, a well known lie in moral philosophy . Cliffe has debated enough non-believers to know exactly what is wrong with it. He has been corrected many thimes. But he chooses not to include the whole story. I encourage you to read up on it and doublecheck what Cliffe says for yourself. Watch his debates where he is corrected time and time again. Wish you the best.
@christisking13164 жыл бұрын
@@cpt.kimintuitiondemon First off, Let me say that I am glad you're here for these dialectics!..Having said that, don't be so sure that minds cannot be changed (Maybe your own?) Without going too far down a philosophical 'Rabbit-Hole', I would just say that Cliff in this exchange, is merely talking about 'moral relevatism' & it's impact on society as a whole!? You disagree & posit that he (cliffe) is making a false dichotomy... C.S. Lewis wrote; "There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell." Now judging from your other comments, I would surmise that you object strongly to the God of the Bible, and His Son Jesus!? As one who is trying to run this 'race' myself, I would agree that there is commandments that I struggle mightily with... Following Jesus is difficult to say the least, But I know in my Heart that there's no other way to go. I do not know what has transpired in your 'own' life, but I know that I could not go back to my old life, as it was both vain & empty!? Having said that, we all have to look at our own presuppositions & biases and try to look at them objectively!? I was reminded of a recent video of an interview with Aron Ra. He was asked if he sought the Truth, and if the God of the Bible turned out to be that 'Truth', would he accept it? He soundly said: NO!, I would & cannot accept The God of the Bible.. If another "god" existed?, then maybe he would accept that one.. My point here is, what are you willing to accept?
@cpt.kimintuitiondemon4 жыл бұрын
@@christisking1316 - lets dissect your quote: there are two kinds of people in the end : those who believe in my god, and those who go to hell. Analogue to his "the doors of hell are locked from the inside". I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish by quoting this to someone who does not believe your god exists in the first place. It may explain xyz of what you personally believe, but we'll have to start at abc . - I would love if you could provide a link for what Aron said. I can imagine his reasening was: "the concept of the christian god is inherently contradictory and thus illogical and irrational thus it can not be "truth"." - I'm willing to accept anything... when there is a good reason. When there is a good reason i probably have no other option than accept the proposed. - I stand by my claim that Cliffe lies and knowingly deceives.