GIVE YOUR CREATURE COMBOS FLASH! cEDH Podcast Episode 46: Savage Summoning

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Күн бұрын

With the rise of creature based strategies like Warren Soultrader/Chatterfang or Hazel's Brewmaster, Savage Summoning has once again peaked the interest of our host Kyle!
Big thank you to our KZbin Commenters InfinityRift and carto1719 for recommending this week's card!
Uncounterable wincons? Flash speed wincons? Both sound great on the surface, but Kyle and Do discuss how potent Savage Summoning can be in cEDH.
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@boynova1423 2 ай бұрын

Y’all should like every 10 episodes or so do one on some fringe commander

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

oooooo we are always looking for ideas for our patreon content and this has been brought up a few times.

@InfinityRift7 2 ай бұрын

I was testing this in preliminary drafts of my 5C Pod deck. I took it out during the turbo meta, but I’m considering putting it back into the list. The thing that wasn’t discussed (and I do think this is really important) is that for creature-heavy decks that also run stax (Ellivere, for example), Savage Summoning usually represents an instant-speed stax piece. Flashing in a RoL effect, a Drannith, or a Ranger-Captain is HUGE in response to a win attempt with Breach and other similar lines. I thought it was important to mention this since it wasn’t really discussed. Additionally, I will say that Pod decks that have 25+ creatures will see the best value for this card, regardless of if Thoracle + Consultation/Pact is in your colors, since stax creatures, utility creatures, AND win-con creatures are all affected by Savage Summoning existing in your deck. To tie it together with a previous episode, Savage Summoning into Drana & Linvala is pretty spicy. All of that being said, this card is definitely going to be a skill check for many pilots, whether you’re playing with or against it. If anyone decides to test this card in their list, play lots of games with it before you make up your mind; this is one of the cards that is heavily affected by variance.

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

1. Thank you for bringing up those points!! The ability to play an instant speed hate bear is something we didn’t go over at all! 2. Thanks for recommending this card!!!

@InfinityRift7 2 ай бұрын

@ You’re so welcome! I have a few more cards I’m testing to see if they’re worth the recs too, so hopefully they’ll pop up in the comments and the Discord.

@TRS-Aphelion 2 ай бұрын

"T&T players, you can remove a quote end quote staple, if it means your deck is functioning better." Please say it a bit louder for those in the back

@DuhPoloc Ай бұрын

I feel like a lot of these various cards generally fall under various umbrellas. Like, take out more counterspells for more gas if you want to be riskier/aggressive, or put in more counterspells if you want to be more reactive/defensive. A staple defense card being taken out for a more gas (even if unconventional) aggressive card might be a worth trade if the deck functions better, etc.

@brendans1983 2 ай бұрын

That counter would help the Pollywog too, nice card 🤘

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

I didn't even think of the frog!

@ameliaburton5313 2 ай бұрын

So excited for this card. I played so much of this card in Standard way back in the day

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

Blast from the past!! I love when magic cards cycle back to relevancy!

@ameliaburton5313 2 ай бұрын

Y'all made me feel old with the ending segment. I played so many Hornet Harassers in limited back in the day

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

Lololol -2/-2 was POWERFUL.

@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh 2 ай бұрын

Most slept on card in cEdh (and I am convinced to my core this will change) Aether Vial! I’ve had it in Tymna Sakishima and now Malcolm Tymna and the card is busted. Any deck that plays a lot of creatures and especially ones that need to not have summoning sickness Vial should be considered. It’s a better version of Savage Summonings You should do that next 🖖great videos

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

You’re the second person on this video who has recommended it!!! I’ll add your name on there too :)

@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh 2 ай бұрын

@@ThatsAGoodCard Dude.. card is amazing

@Uri6060 2 ай бұрын

I feel like if partners didnt exist, then this would be seeing so much more play. But since most people run partners which usually arent worth countering, that it just doesnt see as much play. But also it requires a commander that wants to have some combination of: wanting to tap/untap or attack, are wincons that can be countered, or you have blue and is expensive so you dont wanna tap out. Like in prime speaker vannifar I was playing it and HOLY MOLY it feels like its the perfect deck for this card.

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

I never thought about partners being a reason this doesn’t see play. The only partners I see get countered consistently are krark saka

@TarzantheNinja 2 ай бұрын

Hornet Harasser - Insect creature - 2G 2/2 flying Whenever hornet harasser is blocked, created a 1/1 hornet creature token. Art is a guy swatting away hornets "What bothers me about the hornets? They don't let up." - Dominaria farmer Took a little of the same perspective as Do apparently, and about as right as him.

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

@@TarzantheNinja maybe my perspective is the one that’s off! The hornet is DOING the harassing!

@YOUMADSTAYMAD 2 ай бұрын

Can you guys do an episode about touch the spirit realm? I know you’ve spoken about it a bit before in a previous episode but I so rarely see this card and i think it should be a staple for white

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

We have it on the list!! I see it a ton in my meta in the PNW. I think I mostly see it in Kenrith and Atraxa!

@deamontube30 2 ай бұрын

lol how is it I've never seen this card before ? like this would be so good for my pir and toothy deck.

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

@@deamontube30 probably because it only got printed once!

@davidverhoeven4121 Ай бұрын

Ok hear me out here... Serum Powder. I've been testing it in Kinnan because the mulligans can be rough at times / there are a lot of cards with similar function in the list which don't feel bad exiling. Worst case it is a 3 mana rock, which is crappy but not the worst thing in Kinnan considering it can tap straight away for 2. Could also be an interesting card in a Food Chain deck.. being able to exile Squee or the Griffin before the game begins seems pretty cool

@ThatsAGoodCard Ай бұрын

This is WILD. I’m trying to think about how often I’d be down to just exile 7 cards from the game for the sake of a mull. Interesting card for sure!

@TRS-Aphelion 2 ай бұрын

Total jank suggestion, but Pyre of Heroes. Kyle, you saw how quickly Atlas advocated taking action on me trying to resolve it this past weekend. In a Hulk deck, you can use it to Pod Tymna into Academy or Arena Rector and win the game. Super niche, and probably not high on the recommended list, but that's a good card.

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

added to the list! It was great meeting you at the tournament this weekend!!!

@shonmatthew Ай бұрын

Commander that needs to tap, playing a nice number of 1 drops? Codie maybe?

@ThatsAGoodCard Ай бұрын

Codie uncounterable sounds awesome

@insomn1ak420 2 ай бұрын

This seems great w/ Kutzil

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

Kutzil, Grand Abolisher, Dosan.. all make them super protected!!

@insomn1ak420 2 ай бұрын

@@ThatsAGoodCard The extra buff w Kutzil is the +1 counter for draw triggers, so for him as commander (which trying to make viable) this seems auto-include

@ThatsAGoodCard 2 ай бұрын

@@insomn1ak420 I've seen one person play Kutzil as a cedh commander and it looked kinda cool! Bad colors for CEDH but with how many counterspells there are in cedh, having protection in the cz seems appealing.

@MRAIClassroom 2 ай бұрын

That was my thought process! I’ve been playing t n t and getting in really long grindy games, everyone sitting behind engines, and a big way to win is either instant speeed on top or the easier way, is to get the grand abolished or Kutzil down!