44b. Boxing - a Quick Course

[@JBuck-cu7xd]

20 years ago, my brother in law planted a row of boxwood saplings. They are now 30 cm tall and trunks are about 8 cm diameter. Patience Mr Graham and our great grandchildren will be boxing their tools again ❤

[@gjbmunc]

I hope so!

[@doublediamondsdunn7287]

Nice to see someone giving these planes the love they deserve. I’ve been a carpenter for 38 years and was fortunate enough to have been taught to use them to restore moldings in antique homes. Thanks for sharing. Steve Dunn

[@gjbmunc]

You're very welcome

[@ughjboiukl]

Another great video, amazing. Any chance you could show more in detail how to make sash window joints, frame. Tricks :), please

[@mikejustice1196]

Sir, you seem to be a master at your trade, unlike these other clowns that don’t know the difference between a left and right handed side snipe plane, they guess at 99 % of what they’re spewing. Your channel is rated #1 for its educational instructions on wooden planes. A+😊

[@gjbmunc]

Thank you so much.

[@mikejustice1196]

@@gjbmunc thank you 😊

[@Jimbo878]

it's amazing how some things become indelibly imprinted on the memory, I had a boxwood rule which I had all the way through school, a long time ago now, while watching this video I could actually remember the wonderful, old world smell

[@gjbmunc]

Nice!

[@roadtriplover.]

Im still learning and I love the point you make @Graham Blackburn Woodworking about how resilient hand tools are. I can’t tell you how many times my power tools have failed me. I very much look forward to becoming more expert at my use of vintage hand tools and to making things I’m proud to share. And, I’ve already started watching for great estate sale finds.

[@gjbmunc]

Good to hear!

[@lincolndickerson1293]

You share the coolest information.

[@gjbmunc]

Appreciate it!

[@spike.strat1318]

Graham is having me haunt the flea markets this weekend.

[@gjbmunc]

Good hunting!

[@James_T_Kirk_1701]

Thank you for this video. Always been curious about this. Never come across it in any of my books

[@gjbmunc]

You're welcome.

[@MCsCreations]

Thanks a bunch, Graham! 😃 Here in Brazil, at least where I live, the easiest wood to get is called Garapeira. I have no idea if it gets to other countries or how it's called there... But, either way, it's a really hard wood, great for outside, termites won't attack it and it's great for cutting boards. Its color goes from yellow to red... And it's what I'm going to use to make my own planes as soon as I can get some irons. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@gjbmunc]

Garapeira - sounds interesting!

[@ArchEdge]

Thank you Graham. I suppose being able to repair is another benifit of the older planes, which the newer ones cant do. Always appreciate the videos.

[@gjbmunc]

Very true!

[@michaelmcdermott2178]

Lovely piece, friend!

[@gjbmunc]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@nicocortez102]

Graham, good video. I believe the planes you referred to as side rabbet planes were actually snipe's bills planes.

[@gjbmunc]

Nomenclature is often inexact; side snipes and snipes biils and side rabbets often get confused.

[@chrislewis6050]

Another fine video. You've been disseminating such great information for so long, I just had to pick up a pile of your books, some dating back to the 70's. Thank you for the knowledge, and please stick around, I don't think you're quite done yet. .

[@gjbmunc]

Thanks, appreciated!

[@timothymallon]

As always, thanks for another great video. I am considering taking one of your small group classes.

[@gjbmunc]

Please do!

[@voqk]

I just discovered this channel and am so excited to go back through the other 43 episodes. Now I know boxing exists and will be on the lookout for older molding plane sets! Thank you!

[@gjbmunc]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@jamesmurray7478]

Sight of that boxwood log roused some excitement here!

[@gjbmunc]

Yes, I got really lucky.

[@chiplane3976]

Great video Graham - keep them coming!

[@gjbmunc]

Thanks, will do!

[@ga5743]

Thank you for all the knowledge you share with us. Dovetails next yea I’m all in.

[@gjbmunc]

Thanks. Dovetails coming soon.

[@christianpatton142]

Have learned a bunch of new stuff here. Thanks. PS, spotted gum and sugar are both hard as a.... coffin nail. I think would be good for this.

[@gjbmunc]

I'll have to try that!

[@billffromnh]

I was given a couple pieces of a dense, close-grained wood & told it was "ironwood". I would think it might be good for wooden plane repairs or maybe a wooden plane sole. I have a new Hock iron, except for a Ulmia block plane, all my planes are metal. I'm still enjoying you videos, keep up the nice work.

[@gjbmunc]

Thanks! Ironwood sounds good.

[@coreygrua3271]

I’d love to sit behind you and Rex Kruger on a plane flight. Power tools that last 100 years? Interesting thought I’ve never given much cognitive time to.

[@gjbmunc]

I wouldn't want to not have the planes - even if they're still not flying in a hundred years. I'm gateful to have the balance!

[@ianstewart7605]

I don't have any Boxwood at all, and I doubt it would be easy to find now, here in NW UK. However, I have a small supply of Hornbeam which I picked up myself on holiday when someone was felling some trees on a farm down in Essex. This is a similar hard wood, which was originally used, I've been told, for the toothed gear wheels in windmills. It is certainly difficult to break along the grain, and almost impossible across the grain. My supply has been slowly drying in the workshop for several years now, ans is ready for use. Thanks for the video!

[@gjbmunc]

Sounds perfect!

[@MASI_forging]

Master craftsman at work 👏👏

[@gjbmunc]

Thanks 👍

[@1crazypj]

I didn't know Magnolia was any use for anything! We have a Magnollia tree in yard that was damaged in 2004 hurricanes, it split and fell on a large palm tree which prevented it splitting any further. I managed to save it by using a heavy duty ratchet strap pulling the two halves back together then filling the small gap with expanding foam to prevent rain getting in and rotting it. Maybe it wasn't the best thing to do but, it's still standing and has weathered several more hurricanes 2017, and, Hurricane Ian in 2022 being most severe bringing down a tree on opposite side of house (and 'displacing us for 6 months) Anyway, when it eventually needs some trimming I'll now save any substantial branches (4"¬8" or larger) I'm not a woodworker (motorcycle mechanic) but I make odds and ends sometimes, find hand planing very relaxing

[@gjbmunc]

It's hard but often very wonderfully colored.

[@1crazypj]

@@gjbmunc Thanks, that sounds pretty cool. Could I made a plane with it?

[@davidgagnon2849]

In 2017 during Ian we had our neighbor's Magnolia tree drop a limb on our fence and into our yard. I was about 8" in diameter. Unfortunately we were more concerned with cleanup at the time and it got cut up and put at the curb with the rest of the debris. It sounds like you're in Florida, too. I'm in Polk County.

[@sj_harris]

Graham, I hold you solely responsible for renewed wooden plane addiction :) I was lucky enough to pick up two rounds, one hollow, and (thanks to your recent video) a hefty badger plane which I’d have otherwise overlooked, all for the princely sum of £10 from a local boot fair (I assume our equivalent of your yard sale?) Now all I have to do is restore them…

[@gjbmunc]

Sounds great!

[@leegillow3475]

Thank you

[@gjbmunc]

You're welcome

[@glynluff2595]

I have used hedge hawthorn in U.K. and found this suitably hard for wedges etc.

[@gjbmunc]

Sounds good!

[@anthonyseiver7000]

Brush Box is an Australian hardwood that's very common (its on our footpath/nature strip), is fast growing and very hard but is not a true box tree.

[@gjbmunc]

Sounds good!

[@ManuelGarcia-ww7gj]

Have you considered using some kind of plastic? Lexan comes to mind, but ABS might do as well.

[@gjbmunc]

No plastic. There is already too much of it in the world.

[@rossgraham8776]

Tried to ask this question when I was on vacation but could not post for some reason. Anyway, I have tried to replace the boxing on one of my planes but can get part of the old boxing out of the groove. I assume that they are held in with hide glue but have not tried to wet it and "heat" it out - any suggestion? I really enjoy these videos - so much I watch them on vacation. Thanks for taking the time to put them together and posting them. Ross Graham

[@gjbmunc]

Not sure about the glue, but I would try a fine chisel (or file).

[@haroldschultz5864]

Great video. How can I tell if a broken , folding rule ( Stanley brand) was made from Boxwood? I have a few broken ones that might be handy for these types of repairs . Thank you for another wonderful tutorial . Blessings

[@gjbmunc]

Just try them and see how hard they are.

[@Salamlee1234]

Very useful videos! Just wonder have you ever sawn curve profiles by hand tools on thick woods before? I find it difficult to saw out the curve profiles in thick wood 50mm approx. Most people I asked go for a band saw but it’s difficult to set one up in my tiny flat. I have a bow saw but the blade keep snapping. Any advice? Much appreciated

[@gjbmunc]

Episode on frame and bow saws comingfor this purpose.

[@Salamlee1234]

@@gjbmunc much appreciated Graham, looking forward for the episode and thank you for sharing your knowledge 👍

[@dpmeyer4867]

Thanks

[@gjbmunc]

You're welcome.

[@bertRaven1]

Thanks Graham, would love you know how you deal with old tools that have wood beetle holes?

[@gjbmunc]

Some of mine do - if the damage is not too extensive, keeping the tools in the freezer fort a while will kill any remaining bettles and then just accept the holes as extra 'patina'.

[@bertRaven1]

@@gjbmunc thanks for the advice!

[@gregh7632]

Also, thank you for your videos! I enjoy your teaching style!

[@gjbmunc]

You're welcome

[@jessestrum]

hi graham do moulding plane irons have to be tapered , can they be parallel cheers john

[@gjbmunc]

often tapered from end to end since the blade is often made of two pieces of metal, but if you had to make one (from a file, say) it would just be question of refitting the wedge.

[@roman_le]

Thank you Graham! It seems that your boxing's grain is running perpendicular to the main plane. What is the reason for that?

[@mattmcgrane8975]

Boxing is often inserted not perpendicular, but at about a 30 degree angle. I forget if it leans forward or backward. This way you not only get the toughness of the boxwood (or whatever species you use), but also the added toughness of the end grain of the boxing.

[@gjbmunc]

Some people suggest cutting the slips at 45degrees, but for thin slips perpendicular has always seemed to work well.

[@gjbmunc]

This is also true.

[@davewest6788]

Interesting video. Thank you I learned a lot. Can you suggest any native north American species that would work? I live in New England and there aren't a lot of magnolia trees here :)

[@gjbmunc]

As someone else mentioned earlier, broken boxwood rules can be a good alternative.

[@ninomaiorano6697]

I appreciate you being so knowledgable and you explain your subjects quite clearly however, I would rather see you actually build things rather than just talk about methods and tools, etc.

[@gjbmunc]

Noted!

[@jeffhill1380]

Is there a provider for replacement wood plane cutting irons?

[@gjbmunc]

They show up on eBay sometimes, but if you have moderate blacksmithing skills, small files can be untempered, reshaped, and then retempered again.

[@egglyph]

Nice flex with Johnson paste wax

[@gjbmunc]

Thanks!

[@soledude]

👌👌👌

[@gjbmunc]

Thanks!

[@christopherharrison6724]

Wow where can I get some boxwood.

[@gjbmunc]

As someone else mentioned, look for damamaged boxwood rules or yardsticks.

[@roberthibberd5362]

A good source of boxwood is old wore out folding rules😁

[@gjbmunc]

Absolutely!

[@bayadere8308]

Good, informative video Graham, thank you I enjoyed it very much. However, what's driving me round the bend is trying to pin down your accent. It's got me beat: one moment I can discern South African, the next Australian with a dash of Canadian and then South London, all underscored by American! You'll have to put me out of my misery please.

[@gjbmunc]

Born in London, grew up on the Continent, lived in the US for many years...

[@bayadere8308]

@@gjbmunc Thank you Sir. Oh well, I got the London part right...

[@chdnorm]

Your videos would be much more enjoyable if you actually completed the tasks you talk about. The backstory and history is fun. But, that information is all over the place. Seeing this actual repair, and the process involved, would be useful information.

[@gjbmunc]

I understand your point; I'm just trying to do the best I can with limited resources. Thanks for your comment.

[@jamesmurray7478]

Looks like all the info you need to make minor repairs is given -with a minimum of clear language. I might add that hide glue is preferred for final fixing. It is very strong and the big plus is that it is reversible.

[@chdnorm]

@@gjbmunc I hope you take my comments as constructive criticism. I have several of your books, and was ecstatic to see you now had a KZbin channel. You are a wealth of information. Most KZbin woodworking involves screwing 2X4s together in various shapes. You have the knowledge and ability to really set yourself apart.

[@gregh7632]

Did you glue it or just tight fit and were they traditionally glued, such as replacing a piece that is broke off flush? I have been afraid to try because i assumed it was glued.

[@gjbmunc]

A tight fit usually works but a smidgen of glue could help.