Glasgow Underworld Documentary [William Gage]

[@christydowns783]

That's an awfully detailed description of a man running away in the dark

[@InnocenceExperience]

25-35. Can only see his eyes.

[@jstringfellow1961]

Right. You have seconds at best, and she ran upstairs and lost more of those seconds. There is just no way she saw anything.

[@AndrewMcniven-oz9sg]

Lol bang on pal

[@DuncanMcintyre-jk3qb]

Guessing you had to be there 🤔😎

[@jimborland2491]

I was in Shotts With Wullie , the Guy was A Gentleman and never ever acted like a hard man all the time I was in with him unlike other so called gangsters he kept himself to himself fighting for justice to get his case back to the appeal courts I believe the big man is innocent Hopefully justice will prevail and he is freed

[@patsanters2741]

I havent a clue about any of them people at all and from another region but have listened and watched this video and for me he is innocent as it all stands out like a sore thumb to me ..Cid police officers shall do their utmost no matter what lack of evidence is to make sure they get someone they may not like ..Biggest crooks their is out there and i dont give a monkeys if they read my thoughts as im telling it as it is .

[@adamfrazer5150]

Special nod to the editing team for using one of the Heat soundtrack's best tracks, at 4:00. 👍🍻

[@Ayo.Ajisafe]

At 27:00 too.

[@theejambo8002]

I think the car was a decoy to mess the whole case but the police failed to notice and worked the evidence to suit

[@patsanters2741]

For me even if they noticed they may have just done same thing . Are corrupt to the core .

[@ciskopike6723]

Anybody else think that's Ruth Davidson the Scottish tory leader doing the re-enactment voice for the bird of the guy who got shot?

[@bobdylanger3022]

cisko pike aye course it is.. she worked for BBC Scotland for years!

[@ciskopike6723]

Toxic mix up Aw right, that explains it then. Cheers for the info.

[@bobdylanger3022]

cisko pike np mate

[@johnkerr6294]

Says it all...BBC and the Tory’s who would of thought

[@gerryrowatt3480]

There’s not a person in the Scottish prison system that believes this guy is guilty !

[@stuart2770]

Are u related 2 my old pal jeff rowatt

[@nedread6700]

Are they are all reliable aren’t they 😂😂😂

[@gerryrowatt3480]

@@stuart2770 yes mate that’s my uncle.

[@gerryrowatt3480]

@@nedread6700 they may not be the most reliable people but they know the streets and what goes on there. They also know the difference between the real guilty and innocent. Prisons are a source of much information.

[@RobertHenry-sd2of]

Were you in borstal with me and my pal Rab Leslie in 83 buddy if so good to see yr still cutting about big fella

[@ih8ua119]

It's nearly impossible for an untrained civilian witness to give a description of a night time assailant, especially with such details as were given, only those trained in observation, one with an agenda to misdirect, lastly those being coerced under duress. An angel Gage is not, but going down for a crime committed by a whole other form of low life is out right despicable!!!

[@RicTic66]

Blue eyes, Brown eyes, Green eyes, Hazel eyes... SCARY EYES !!! Fit up for sure.

[@angina50]

Something something temptation lyrics.

[@Philthy_UK]

"I would describe the man as male..." Genius.

[@dksportsboxing768]

toilet paper 😂😂😂😂😂

[@PTENelsonGR]

😂🤣😭

[@TheVeek192]

And aren't you clever for discerning that and pointing it out?!

[@SecretSquirrelFun]

Ha ha ha

[@spreadthelove77]

Chief Wiggum out The Simpsons would have been proud of that guy😂😂

[@warz0ne775]

So if he run off as soon as the shots were fired from the 2nd females account, how did the woman in the first account take a minute to move from the kitchen, then she had time to walk upstairs and into another room to look out?

[@gerryrowatt3480]

Big wullie is a gentleman. My neighbour at Hmp Shotts for a while. I truly believe this is a miscarriage of justice of the highest calibre. # Free the big guy!

[@CME1994]

HAWLL YOU!!!!! Am on eh nightshift ffs.

[@callummcgregor4589]

@Gerryrowatt, you seen the film UP?

[@gerryrowatt3480]

@@callummcgregor4589 no mate

[@mephistopheles9233]

​@gerryrowatt3012 You still in the Gorbals jumping about way brollies?

[@gerryrowatt3480]

@@mephistopheles9233 nah I’m aff that now 😂

[@christopher6crawford]

The Southside can rival the Northside shitholes, that's not even counting Govan. Plenty gangland activity. Back in the day when I was wandering around in the late 80s early 90s in Pollok, South Nitshill, and Priesthill, the areas and streets looked 3rd world. Dormanside road, Pinmore, Glenmuir, Linnhead..... I'm a North Glasgow boy but some of that shit rivalled the deprivation we had in Ruchill, Maryhill, Royston, Possil, Springburn, and Blackhill. Looked great - boarded up windows, layers of graffiti, no asphalt on the streets, very dim streetlamps. Mind you, around Craigendmuir street in Blackhill the streets were mud, and that was a tenement scheme, so always looked 10 times more foreboding than the new schemes. I got out of Ruchill, and eventually the U.K. People wouldn't believe their eyes to see those old schemes, the utter deprivation then. They're gone now.

[@G4RY1159]

I installed steel security panels in most of those areas over a 6 year period along with many others, Bellsmyre - Faithley - Ardenglen etc. We also covered North Lanarkshire, places like Craigneuk & Coltness etc. seen a few sites in my years and loved my job but left back in 2004 for another venture.

[@howey935]

I couldn't tell someone's height if they were in the dark stood at the end of the garden.

[@obviouslytwo4u]

7ft 42"

[@alexandersakulin3127]

is Ruth Davidson doing the reanactment voice of the wife?

[@bobdylanger3022]

Alexander Sakulin yep

[@johnkerr6294]

BBC and the Tory’s....don’t believe it...

[@williamf4544]

Maybe she was the wife

[@crazycraigy01]

Maybe wearing a padded jacket underneath a thin jacket so he could change and still have a jacket on..!

[@timalloybhoy]

Maybe!...Maybe Not! In the case of a 'Maybe', its hardly compelling evidence in a Murder case!

[@paulgordon6949]

That's what I thought

[@adamfrazer5150]

This case wouldn't make it anywhere near a trial - the clothes were matched to the witness description rather than the other way around, and nowhere near enough gsr on those clothes, shot apart by any competent Legal Aid litigator. Even if you learn through tv, there are a few programs that teach you the right information 😬

[@frankmcnally01]

Pardon the pun but this is a stitch up.

[@andrewbell7579]

How they came to a guilty verdict in this case is unbelievably bad. In no way shape or form should he have been found guilty in this case the police were utterly incompitant and to base a large part of your evidence on a pair of eyes in the dark is ludicrous. The male witness who saw him without his face covered was the best part of the eye witnesses and was completely ignored. They basically convicted him because of his unsavoury past.

[@craigwilson777]

I totally agree!

[@dennisclancy6729]

I was up at the appeal court the same day as him in October 2005,,he come Doon fae shotts,,,I was Doon fae low Moss,, HE IS AN INNOCENT MAN!!!

[@dennisclancy6729]

Eammon Wright no I haven't mate but I would like to read it..as he was a good guy the day we spent in Edinburgh together...I love that ppl making comments about ye when they don't even no ye..but that's what the weak do now Craig Miller et Al (u Ken what et Al means Craig ,,,nae googling now)make hot statements fae their mothers bedroom...#loveabdy..

[@dennisclancy6729]

Eammon Wright lol if only political figures could explain their answer's in monosyllabic terms eh hahahaha...Craig will definitely have to Google that word...

[@dennisclancy6729]

Eammon Wright ,I hope u got a result and I was just reading over it..I would like to read the book as u can imagine,,we never discussed his case.n for u to opine,,u never butted in mate....hope ur not in one of the 5 mansions,,well c_hall is remand ,,well it was when I was there 05/06...Perth was getting demolished but met many fine guys,, Sammy Ralston baba kilpatrick n Danny Boyle was a GD pal n there..lol drapping names oot my pocket lol...tc..u2toxic

[@5eviexe466]

Clancy you're a steamer

[@richardmcgonigle1160]

@@dennisclancy6729 latin speaking hmm

[@dailyamusing235]

Why she get a second interview, what was up with the first wan?and the manaquin jacket is green and the picture of the one in the car is blue,what's going on there then?

[@p.o.l.i.c.e.scotland631]

all involved in this case should first be compelled to go through a polygraph test. SIMPLE

[@jammiiee]

Polygraph test lol it's not the 80's mate and polygraphs don't hold any weight in court.

[@Jie67]

Jamie B not in court but they have use in an investigation ;)

[@grahammckenzie6402]

P.O.L.I.C.E. SCOTLAND yup I say so myself

[@Powert0ThePeople]

Against those unknowing of the fact they are based on pseudoscience perhaps man.. against cops who are probably aware of this fact, maybe not?

[@robertmcintyre4653]

they should be put through a voice stress test much better than a polygraph, all the witnesses & the cops who framed him should be made to do this, I believe the guy is innocent.

[@dmfdaz9339]

Beyond reasonable doubt and as the man said at the end too many doubts.

[@meangene408]

Holy shit. "I wis in a pub in the west end, Guv". "But somebody used your phone in Easterhoose in the same place we found a motor belonging tae you and DNA". "Aye but it wisnae me"...................Aye sure, pal.

[@jstringfellow1961]

I think the car was his, the DNA as well, but that wasn't the car that left the scene of that murder. The man who saw the killer getting into the car could have possibly helped by getting the plate number or even a part of it.

[@Warwck24]

Tend to go w that

[@Joiedevivredesilives]

If you are owed 50k what benefit is it killing the debtor?

[@ry6222]

Such a shame, I hole heartedly believe he is innocent

[@RobertHenry-sd2of]

Was it a firearms officer ,who retrieved the jacket from the car,as that would explain the small amounts of residue found on the jkt,I would also look at that angle for the man,and suggest that the ID parade be held in Debenhams window

[@neilburns8869]

If 3 separate shots were fired, surely it stands to reason that there's going to be way more 6 particles on the jacket.

[@loyalistu.y.m]

How can a man be sentenced to 20 years on that evidence and id

[@Gae-hp9do]

And the phantom white volvo, is that on the cctv footage?? Theres holes in the defence here....

[@davidforrest5342]

The witness said hes was about 5"10 at first and gage is 6"2... trust me when i say this, women are VERY good judges of height. Its usually the number 1 thing they notice on a man. To be that far out on her estimate is highly unlikely. The discrepancies in the jacket identification also makes it very dubious evidence at best

[@AndyMcSherry1]

Who let Ruth Davidson narrate a crime documentary?

[@lynnybee6328]

A snood and a ski mask are two different things so which was it , as Tracey says wearing a snood , but other witness Stephen goes into details of saying eyeholes !!

[@johncee737]

William is a gentleman, intelligent and will probably have too stay in prison all his life as the system puts you threw courses to face your crime and actions... so william has to admit guilt to get out and I don't think he will as everybody knows it wasn't him. And is true to his word so...miscarriage of the system. Free wully gage.

[@stuartstein7495]

I don't believe you now need to admit to a crime you never did due to that many previous miscarriages of justice, but it will probably cost him more time. He doesn't take drugs and doesn't get involved in other criminal activities in prison.

[@inger9727]

The fact there is no cctv footage,and a thought picking someone out is just used to rule people out and help police identity someone not a deciding factor.

[@nicolem540]

I think Julie Waugh Works in my school because I remember in s1 we got a talk about how her friends husband was shot and she lives in cumbuslang

[@jamesirvine7268]

Pisses me off that people involved in drugs are living in houses like that this country Is a joke

[@micahbodha6129]

Aye his wife should have the house taken off her through proceeds of crime. As if she didnt know her man was a scumbag smack dealer

[@Ian-tm4lh]

So a guy said it was a volvo then went to paisley police station then days later he went back and said it was a saab police have told him what to say

[@TheScottishSprayer]

A volvo 440 and Saab 9000 are near identical!

[@burants89]

Luke Mitchel and wullie Gage are shocking, cases, Gage would be out by now if he admitted his guilt but no he’s innocent

[@davidmcintyre1258]

Read the man’s book

[@GoogleUser-bt3ju]

Why was he having dinner with Jack McConnell? 🤨

[@thanksforthacheese5977]

So is this lad still in prison or what.. This is a blatant set up.

[@wetherall1968]

williams still in shots prision to the day wrongly accused

[@gerryrowatt3480]

Gloves “ no jewellery “ phew! Come on.

[@deigo27simpson74]

Free Willie Gage!!

[@Kizzmypixel2023]

how can someone see that far to see eyes in a balaclava or whatever

[@anorthernsoul8026]

He's a innocent man,how the fuck can you use witness box identification she could see a mans eyes from that distance, watch my cousin Vinny free the man!!

[@steeplejack928]

Quibbling over the minutiae! It seems to me that no one will ever be convicted of anything if such casuistic reasoning prevails.

[@simonw1313]

Mill Wright - Minutiae? Ignoring that the best description of the suspect is nothing like the convicted mans? That the CCTV evidence (denied to the defence) doesn't prove the Car in Easterhouse was the Car in Cambuslang; that the firearm residue on the coat which was different from all the witness statements was likely to be historical or second hand; etc. Beyond reasonable doubt means what it says not well we dinna like the guy and he's a bad sort anyway.

[@jodieandthomasmongan2026]

Only bit of evidence I find weird is how was his phone in easterhouse if it wasn't him ? Other than that I do believe he's innocent

[@richardscullion2966]

Glasgow finest police sending another innocent man to prison

[@richardmcgonigle1160]

Unfortunately not enough people turned up to his free tickets at chatlerault ... who would he owes 50g. His father is a multi millionaire... why he got involved in crime is beyond me.. Ailsa builders ..print money...

[@richardmcgonigle1160]

He could have lived a playboy lifestyle without doing shit just being involved As heir to Ailsa ... would make him a very rich man. Also he knew the man who he owed the money to gave him many warnings and that the man would not let it go..suicide not paying that debt.

[@graemeadam6987]

Why is ruth davidson narrating?

[@ciskopike6723]

Graeme Adam no way man! I just commented that then scrolled further down and seen your comment, gonnae need to go and delete it now or folk will think I stole it lol!

[@bobdylanger3022]

Graeme Adam because she was a employee of BBC Scotland before the horrible cunt got into politics!

[@richardcrooks7395]

Y no say who used his phone though

[@weechill333]

Can we really believe the BBC though?

[@weechill333]

SayWhat IThink jimmy is as trustworthy as the BBC

[@TheGodParticle]

Yeah that's true, dodgy lot at the BBC

[@sjm2721]

Wee Chill safe to assume your a nationalist banging on about the bbc 😂

[@TheGodParticle]

stephen mcewan I guess you're just another one of those gullible tony Blair voters. Good luck with that.

[@sjm2721]

TheGodParticle Nope wrong answer

[@tigerbricks]

So the criminals just leave everything to be caught .... criminals must be that stupid ...

[@mjcaravans82]

Absolute stitch up. William gauge didn't do it.

[@TheScottishSprayer]

No he was just the getaway driver, his choice to take the rap!

[@riboid]

People don't get shot for nothing.

[@PTENelsonGR]

The bizzys are the most corrupt in Scotland. I don't feel safe when I see them I feel more on edge. Wearing tracksuits dusny help tho ha. FTP

[@engelberthumperdinck7366]

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[@albertmccready478]

Defo sounds a dodgy conviction given this version of events

[@misspeaches4828]

Lazy cops just took the first person they could.

[@abdulabdullah3679]

first witness ,looks into a dark street through a lit room and sees a man in a jacket with hood up and scarf covering their face.. b. s. ! All that from a forehead !Guy said ,baw face or baw heid did it that must be the wan.

[@mtkdon6358]

I was in nic we William very nice guy and not guilty free Willy.

[@sconniepanda5835]

Lots of Scottish crime is freemasonic . particularly police crime.

[@thecam251]

Miscarriage of justice

[@MultiArkle]

Eyes? That is BS but The phone call from Easterhouse? Sorry Guilty IMO

[@richardmcgonigle1160]

Gage was uptonsummat that night for sure but definitely not the justin mcillroy hit.

[@engelberthumperdinck7366]

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[@markshort5187]

Havent looked this up to see if anything else has happened since this video but lets be honest the police obviously have it in for Gage, Gage himself is obviously known to police, doesnt like them and isnt willing to work with them, that night there is a good chance hes been commiting crime himself if car is burnt out but this is a joke. 6ft 2 is a massive difference to 5ft 10 or 5ft 11, he hads long hair not short hair and everyoe was so sure about this jacket being a bubble/padded jacket. The guy who claims its a volvo, doesnt just say volvo he actually names the model so its not a saab!, the fact that the car isnt seen on any CCTV but isnt brought up in court is a disgrace. The wife has just wanted someone jailed for her husbands death and the police have obviously made her believe he is guilty so shes said the comments about his eyes. Awful miscarriage of justice again in Scotland

[@wetherall1968]

willies still in shots m8 so wrong the systems terrified the mistakes thave made all wrong

[@robertcnesbitt3783]

Big boab far river city narrator and Ruth the mooth davidson .

[@darrendallas8387]

You can do a perfect murder and then mock up by not starting a fire. set up

[@isnmckenna2056]

What ever happened with the accused

[@Gae-hp9do]

This is not a safe conviction. But let's not lie to ourselves. He done it, or he supplied the weapon and was part of the conspiracy. He is no innocent.

[@ianmangham4570]

Bent coppers throughout the land

[@lolorgtfomf2248]

18:44 Steeeeeeeeeve Madden.... Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve

[@donniemurdo5585]

Was it banana man??

[@sarahaughian4886]

The wife sounds like Ruth Davidson

[@wetherall1968]

William is definitely an innocent man. no angel but definitely NOT a murderer known from a young man he was respected with all good friend to my young cuzan mark Gillan rip young cuz thought till the end of his life for willies rights as an innocent man justice system also got it wrong to except the truth and this guys spent along time in prison wrongly accused good luck William

[@williamf4544]

Cambuslang seems to be a go to place to live for still and formaly dodgie people who have managed to get a bit of money about them who want folk to be impressed - A wee bit upmarket but near enough for them to visit their old mammies in Castlemilk

[@cameronbrown9080]

A terrible miscarriage of justice and a right fit up by the police

[@jimhamiltonuka3669]

This is rather worrying members of the public have to put some sort of Trust in police Scotland when main stream newspaper coverage , has reports of paedophilia sex offences by police Scotland , any doubts just google it some are serving custodial prison sentences ,apparently that there very untrustworthy and frankly bias in there methods ,for police Scotland staff to be convicted for sex offending is despicable and repugnant

[@DrWho007]

Who da fook is this the Crown? The police I know, but crown? UK peeps please explain.

[@MH-zq5zh]

The Crown prosecution service, ie the courts

[@bjorno2080]

The Court. The Country. The Establishment. You fuckin daft?

[@p.o.l.i.c.e.scotland631]

I have now watched this .... still stinks, almost agree with me mate.

[@catrionamccafferty9353]

Mark Clinton pulled the trigger on the instructions of Paul Ferris ........ case closed

[@jordanrobertson4819]

Catriona Mccafferty Wasn’t Ferris, it was Stewart Boyd.

[@vapetec4189]

Lolololol ferris lolololol it was a certain south side gangster SB

[@robertmcintyre4653]

fly grasses the 3 eh yee's

[@scottwalker7115]

Well said Robert 👌

[@matthewjennings1327]

Clinton used a knife

[@123macks]

Was this in dummy

[@RickyRic995]

sounds fishy no enough evidence guys previous that got him nicked fucking liberty as for the gpr theres not enough for 3 or more shots fired this case stinks

[@sophia8633]

OMiG0d I LIVE TherE😱😱😱

[@Whitewidow23]

I bought his house

[@jonslg240]

he just decided to burn his car that night, shortly after the murder. It just happened to be the same color and almost identical to the car he's burning that night. There's also no other suspects. They don't offer any new ones. I believe the guy is guilty.

[@simonw1313]

Jons LG - "almost identical" lol? On the suspect front it's not the defence and the defendants job to solve the crime.

[@Boviss1Bovis]

The thing is - that car may have been there for weeks. They noticed it when they started looking for a white Volvo 44. Gage is who he is. He may have been there when a firearm was discharged, he may have been given a firearm to dispose of - he may have been in the woods when someone was shooting coke cans. The car might have been used for gangster shit of any kind. It doesnt make him the murderer. The one guy who saw the murderer's face said it wasnt him. Without that car being the getaway, theres no evidence worth spit.

[@gerryrowatt3480]

Can see you don’t think the cops lie!👎

[@richardmcgonigle1160]

Red Rose dinners wae Labour Party mp s mixing wae Glasgow gangsters whats new.

[@HannibalSmith878]

Wullie is innocent

[@johngunn9833]

legalise it ffs.

[@vinnieboombatz1640]

he is innocent !

[@outlaw187g3]

Mark Clinton RIP.

[@davidfalconer9281]

Wasn’t he a wee Ned that stabbed folk

[@oklife7273]

If you have 50 bags for me I'm not putting 3 in you

[@johnjaxson2309]

medium biwlled.

[@Kizzmypixel2023]

shameful glasgow police

[@edithbryce4608]

Let's be honest here, he's hardly an innocent man, with all the other crime he committed. Karma really is a bitch!!

[@iainlindsay5687]

because he committed alleged other crimes doesnt mean he committed this crime. what a attitude.

[@edithbryce4608]

@@iainlindsay5687 , alleged other crimes, read his book. I know the story and perhaps he didn't do it but he had 2 appeals and is still in prison !

[@iainlindsay5687]

@@edithbryce4608 The mans serving life for a crime he's innocent of. The criminal justice system is a joke and the real killer walks free to this day, but you say Karma.

[@edithbryce4608]

@@iainlindsay5687 , according to you, 2 appeals lost and still in prison kinda speaks for itself. I do say karma, he was a criminal and what goes around comes around.

[@iainlindsay5687]

@@edithbryce4608 Lets just hope it never happens to you or a family member ehh.

[@AlexForbes-u9x]

Glesgae polis at their best. Useless.

[@johnbrown3540]

Help

[@stuart2770]

DEFO STE UP, I LIVE THIER I WALKED PASSED THIER HOUSE AT 9,45 PM I KNOW THE WITNESS WHO WAS AN ASSOCIATE I LIVE HERE FUCKIN TRAGEDY

[@jamaljibril7825]

The Labour councillors son should have paid his drug bill