What is "Netflix Jail"? | Glass Reflection

[@qwertyman1511]

i can't help myself. "we are in mourning"

[@GlassReflection]

i aM tHe bETS spEllAR EVAR!

[@qwertyman1511]

@@GlassReflection iM SoRrY

[@JaimeNyx15]

Glad I didn't have to be the one to say it.

[@gateauxq4604]

Press F to pay respects

[@Rognik]

@@qwertyman1511 forgive him, he's Canadian.

[@ZoddsBerkers]

Thank Netflix for keeping the fansub community alive

[@nelsonw9483]

Not related to Netflix but I find it odd that there are fansubs for series simulcasted by Crunchyroll and Funimation. Like, why do they even bother? Not only are they late, they are worse too. There's literally no point to their existence.

[@andyramirez4293]

@@nelsonw9483 not necessarily because Funimation’s subs really drop the ball a lot. I know a bit of Japanese and when I hear what they say and what they translate I’m just like “hmm that’s not right”

[@nelsonw9483]

@@andyramirez4293 I don't mind them doing a bit of localization as long as the overall vibe and message stay the same. It's still better than most fansubs with their casual af English which makes characters sound a lot less well spoken and dumber. The only time I chose fansubs over official is for Jojo's accurate stand name.

[@goldmemberpb]

@@nelsonw9483 sometimes, fansubs do a better job at localizing and they can also cover BD versions. You also get op and ed subtitle animation on top of more diagestic translated texts.

[@Yoshi-zt5df]

@@nelsonw9483 Fansubs are more often better than Crunchy/Funimation/Netflix

[@Nomarura]

I feel like the binge model makes shows quicker to be forgotten. Less discussion on individual episodes, it doesn’t stick in your mind for weeks, you just watch, get closure, enthuse a little, then it’s done

[@gateauxq4604]

It really does. Aside from shows I may have been catching up on I honestly don’t remember which Netflix show I last binged. I have no one to chill with so I watch this stuff pretty much in a vacuum and unless it’s so amazing that I look it up on reddit chances are it’ll be tossed on the scrap pile in my brain, never to be thought of again.

[@darkprinc979]

To broaden the perspective a little bit, this is just one indicator of the direction modern culture is taking. Everyone takes this stream of consciousness approach to everything where, instead of taking the time to think about and appreciate what you're doing, you hop from one thing to the next, and the next and so on. It's like having this great meal placed in front of you, and instead of taking your time to savor and enjoy the food you shovel it in as quickly as possible so you can get to the next dish. It's fine to be like that sometimes, but as a lifestyle it's unhealthy, and when it becomes a cultural norm you have a serious problem. Sure, we're talking about entertainment here which in and of itself doesn't matter much, but entertainment is a form of art, and you can learn a lot about a culture through its art. We no longer treat art as something to appreciate, but something to be consumed. It's a mark of how shallow and selfish modern culture is.

[@chapdattext3167]

Exactly, I mean I see falcon and winter soldier trending on twitter filled with discussions and theories every week because it's a weekly release

[@leos8813]

It's also fun to have something to look forward to each week.

[@SerifSansSerif]

It does, but really, it's just the sheer quantity that does that more so. Nodame Cantible anyone? Paradise Kiss? Both were back in the day before netflix and NOBODY remembers them anymore. They were some of the biggest most popular releases of their time, but a year later, just forgotten. Remember when Golden Kamuy was like, THE THING to watch? We had two seasons of it, now nobody knows it or mentions it. Back in the day of VHS and DVD, conversations about a series would last YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRS.... Because there was just a handful of series. Part of it, I will admit might have been because we just didn't get as much imported, but also, just not as much made.. Stolen from ANN's message board: The actual numbers: Year TV Movies 1996 42 30 1997 46 31 1998 75 22 1999 83 33 2000 57 35 2001 91 40 2002 92 40 2003 105 35 2004 122 41 2005 117 51 2006 161 55 2007 150 60 2008 138 36 2009 131 48 2010 113 44 2011 145 50

[@1991LPfan]

“I don’t hate Funimation, I just wish they’d fix their shit.” Is a whole mood that I 100% can get behind

[@maxxor-overworldhero6730]

After all the stuff that they've done to Vic, and the slimy stuff that they're also guilty of, I do actually hate Funimation now.

[@persomiissleepy]

Word

[@loweman25]

Somethin has gotta give now that Sony own CR and funimation...probably move it all over to funimation 😭

[@maxxor-overworldhero6730]

@@loweman25 Didn't that get stopped for monopoly laws?

[@bl00dkillz]

@@maxxor-overworldhero6730 the merger went through

[@talaofthevalley]

For me, the thing with the Netflix binge model is that it has cut potential fandoms in the kneecaps. With weekly shows, people tune in every week and get excited over what is in that specific episode, they talk about it, post screenshots or gifs and are just excited over what new we've learned or any funny faces or cute moments. Theorizing is blown to hell if there isn't a second season. Plot twists or big reveals hit like a bomb, and seeing my twitter feed descend into chaos over a new twist is honestly a highlight for me. But Netflix's way of binging ruins that, because you watch it all in one go, and potential viewers who might be drawn in by people continuing to talk about it every week don't give it a second glance. Fan discussion is minimal and the chance of the show remaining in people's heads are lower, and I think it's a shame.

[@lightdarkness]

This is exactly what I was going to comment too.

[@zerokura]

Ya i want more when it ends after i realized i watched 10 episodes and its already over.

[@couldntpickausername4099]

yeah, for example look at the discussion around Wandavision.

[@kerricaine]

@@couldntpickausername4099 i think disney has honestly mastered the weekly release of content honestly. like, all their shows since mandalorian have juuuust enough to keep people talking and excited to see where it's gonna go next week without a lot of it dragging on or leaving too many questions unanswered. they're really working that fandom angle of controlled content, vs. like the person above said, the all at once binge content means the discussion on those shows will only really keep up for that week or two after release. some hardcore fans will settle in, but then there's almost a year between seasons, if there is a second.

[@fanmovie357]

This is a very unpopular opinion on my part but....Fandoms are overrated, the whole discussion thing ugh...my best experiences with a series have been with ones who are already finished and I was able to watch them at my own pace.

[@Will-jg2zs]

Imagine Netflix being today's sponsor lol

[@MrSkateAndWatch]

Might have to wait a few months from today

[@IanHsieh]

@@MrSkateAndWatch Glass Reflection will not show on KZbin for a while and then bang! 12 videos all sponsored by Netflix at the same time.

[@enoch13th85]

Imagine getting sponsored by a company that airs child prawn! Netflix needs boycotting. I for one will never forget.

[@keginayers9497]

@@enoch13th85 What title?

[@enoch13th85]

@@keginayers9497 Cuties...

[@SilverShion]

I'm just glad Beastars got the best treatment possible and didn't end like Promised Neverland.

[@GlassReflection]

Fully agree! But then again considering how TPN S2 ended.....that's a pretty low bar.

[@justapancrepe8455]

@@aang529 ey yo chill sounds like you're begging him at the front door. He makes his waves around anime just wait, his videos are quality and take time

[@memo2995]

Foreal, the manga was god tier

[@kaltaron1284]

I haven't seen Beastars yet but Yakusoku no Neverland S1. But I heard bad things about S2. Might be better to skip it and look for the manga?

[@AnimeFlyz]

@@memo2995 I wouldn't really say that. First Half was good. then it went to absolute shit.

[@revan5097]

glass reflections: how would you defend netflix jail me: before i answer that, what are the charges?

[@kaltaron1284]

Not interested in the charges but what's the mazimum possible sentence?

[@The_Evening_Sun]

@@kaltaron1284 death by quartering

[@trixareforkids9883]

@@The_Evening_Sun can you kill me by quartering

[@thattimestampguy]

0:00 1 minute 5 seconds of introduction 1:06 Goal 1:11 Sponsor 2:26 What does Netflix Jail mean? 4:30 Why do different countries get Anime released at different times? 7:45 When Netflix drops an anime, more people search for it On Time aka As It Airs vs Post-Release Binging Goal: Get the viewer to watch the whole show 15:02 This was A Analysis Video 16:20 BIG Shoutout

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Thank you ♡ ～('▽^人)

[@squidy968]

What I don’t get is that Netflix slapped their logo over “thus spoke Rohan kishibe” and yet they don’t even have part 4 available to stream, when part 5 is done and dubbed

[@cherrynoodles5516]

Idk why they don’t have part 4 & 5 yet, but hopefully if enough people watch Rohan ova and continue to stream Jojo they’ll get the rights to stream it. I’m not too mad at it though because I started watching Jojo on Netflix and I was hooked, so I ended up buying Crunchyroll to watch the rest of the show and I actually really like using Crunchyroll. The only bad thing is that it sucks for those who prefer dubs or just aren’t interested in an anime only streaming service. Casual anime viewers could be put off and not bother to finish the show

[@sterlingmuse5808]

@@cherrynoodles5516 Are there people watching Jojo that don't want to watch other anime? That's a really weird thought for me, because... Well. It's JOJO lol.

[@BreakfastKing420]

They also took off/ are taking off parts 1-3

[@omarmansuri7099]

That depends from region to region. My region actually had JOJO Part 4 streaming on Netflix

[@ryanbrodsky5488]

That’s because Viz has the license to the main series.

[@13fjuk11]

What sucks even more is that some of the shows that have already been released on Netflix in some countries aren't available in others

[@kerricaine]

shhhh, quiet, you'll attract "the sponsors"

[@melonlord1414]

I mean, that problem is solvable with an VPN, isn't it.

[@purplespectre]

This isn't really a problem exclusive to Netflix, but it is one of the major reasons I end up pirating most anime. It will continue to be this way unless companies suddenly realize they're harming the industry by keeping exclusives that they didn't make, and geoblocking is completely unnecessary. Unfortunately, I don't see this happening any time soon.

[@fatetestarossa2774]

@@purplespectre Agree : (((((((((((((((

[@nanamiharuka3269]

@@melonlord1414 but do I really want another subscription among the many? No.

[@greasy13]

I'd say the spike was due to the explosion of anime in the west during the pandemic. The amount of people that started to watch anime due to being forced at home is crazy. People could only watch the office and friends so many times. So many people I know refuse to watch anime weekly and much rather just wait for the season to finish and to binge, which sucks because half of the fun is the weekly memes.

[@LiiRAE.]

I disagree, I'll copy paste a comment I did just now: same thing kinda happened with tower of god. ToG was kinda lowkey in japan, but when netflix japan picked it up 6 months later it exploded in popularity in japan, and if you look at the time it was released on netflix and for instance the youtube accounts of the OP/ED kpop group stray kidz, they also exploded to millions of followers and tens of millions of views right after that, which was way more than from the time ToG aired to the netflix release, where all of their ToG videos barely accumulated to more than 3-4 million views after airing. The data is available on socialblade. Tower of god ended at the peak of covid in 2020, and netflix japan picked it up by the end of the year. Lets not forget that in this season a bunch of massive shows didn't air due to covid, so we had even less anime to go around! Meaning if anything, ToG in japan should've been the most popular it could get due to less competition.

[@The_Evening_Sun]

@@LiiRAE. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this but I would like to point out that Tower of God is not a series originating from Japan. It's Japanese fanbase has always been smaller than the rest of the international fanbase

[@APlatapus]

@@The_Evening_Sun I think he's saying regardless if ToG is popular or not in Japan. With the lack of competition for anime in 2020 it should've been HUGE. But it was average. When Netflix took it in Japan not USA. It spiked to levels that it could never have reached without Netflix. So in this case Netflix boosted a show in Japan by putting it on its service.

[@magicalgirlmel3289]

There's also people like me. I watch a lot of anime at work on a second screen, but due to also being working, it has to be dubbed anime because I can't constantly be looking over to read subtitles. During the pandemic, I was able to catch up on a few subbed only series...

[@APlatapus]

@@magicalgirlmel3289 one thing I've noticed recently is that there might be more dub watchers than sub watchers in English speaking countries. So more dub would be beneficial for user retention for legal steaming services

[@mordi9286]

We won't talk about TPN S2. It's okay Arkada, we'll get through this.

[@ivvan497]

What happened?

[@BonazaiGirl]

@@ivvan497 The Ultimate Betrayal and Disappointment happened. In short, they pulled a Tokyo Ghoul Root A. In long, the second season became Anime-Only and erased entire arcs, characters, and rushed the story and changed things for the worst.

[@inssomnia]

Let's just hope we're getting a TPN Brotherhood at least

[@arbazshaikh7417]

@@inssomnia just read the manga dude it's pretty good

[@ishanchag6467]

@@ivvan497 they did the Tokyo ghoul thing. We wanted manga canon and they gave us rubbish anime original and a wack ending

[@KetchupBlood94]

Both has pros and con, but I like the weekly release for the discussions and theorizing. A community grows on discussions. Think Demon Slayer; If the show had been released in one go, the show would most likely have gone mostly unnoticed, as episode 19 had reddit and twitter explode, thus many took interest. The show would have been a flash that happened instead of a fire that burned brightly weekly, gaining more heat. The netflix model only works if it is exclusive, since the weekly discussions by other people that either live where it is weekly or people that pirate will end up spoiling the show for those that are waiting. Though, those are my views, my anecdotes, so I don't have anything to back these up.

[@manolismarinakis8444]

I really like your point and although personally I choose to watch something after it has aired, so that I have better chances of watching something I will really like, (and also I binge) I benefit greatly from the weekly model and these discussions because they end up informing me on what is (has a greater chance of being) to my liking or not.

[@purplespectre]

I agree. Shows benefit from being realised weekly (though I personally still prefer watching shows after they finish airing).

[@gateauxq4604]

Im not sure if it was simulcast but I just finished Demon Slayer on Hulu. If they retain rights (which I think they license from Funi/Crunchyroll) then they will probably be simulcasting season 2. I hope the rest of the world gets access to Hulu because that would really put the pinch on Netflix to start simulcasting.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

But then they pick up ones that have the smallest fandoms you could imagine and the progress in the manga only proves the shortage of fans. What about those?

[@shawnjavery]

There's usually only a handful of those shows every season, if that. For most anime you have the most interest at the start as they get hyped up by the prerelease material months in advance with attention falling off as the anime airs and a portion of the audience doesn't come back week after week. With the netflix model there aren't week to week discussion, but I'd expect something similar to happen after an anime is released on the service, as word of mouth would spread about good shows anyways. You'd have big spikes after an anime is released instead of shows slowly picking up steam, especially with netflix having an algorithm to push good content to people who might be receptive of it.

[@NegativeLegend]

Psychology is weird, dude.

[@Chronoflation]

Oh hey, a content creator I watch in the comments of another one I watch. Neat-o. Speaking of weird psychology, what makes people want collectors editions of things and why must Netflix make me suffer wanting a Devilman Crybaby collectors edition that doesn't seem like it'll ever happen

[@drilladilla9188]

I like the binge model personal. I have a weird habit where I have to re-watch everything to catch up before watching a new season because I forget about a lot of the details that may possibly be important, especially in anime that give shuttle hints. It's even harder when you have to wait and start watching another anime to fill the time. I like to finish a story before starting another

[@drilladilla9188]

@Rita 25 y.o - check my vidéó yes exactly, and the longer the anime the harder it gets. I think all anime and shows should release this way. I also watch MCU and star wars shows on Disney+ and it's annoying watching one episode just to re watch it again to remember what happened 😂. Gotta say Rita living your profile pic 😉😂. I looked and couldn't find the vid 😂😂

[@dBsdecibels]

Think I’m the opposite. I don’t think I’ve ever stopped watching a show that followed the Japanese release cycle. I’ve dropped a TON of shows that were in binge format. The weekly schedule gives me something to look forward to, which hooks me. I don’t get the same effect with a binge model, it turns into “well, I can watch it whenever,” which turns into “meh, I’m not going to bother...this looks more interesting anyway,” and the cycle continues. Don’t think I’m a typical case though.

[@krikelas1392]

Violet Evergarden is indeed one of the best example for binge vs simulcast. In r/violetevergarden most people who watched it was from binge watching the show on netflix. Those who simulcast it most likely dropped it because it was "slow paced".

[@willemXdeffo]

late to this party but whatever. I watched VE when it was airing, as did some coworkers, unlike my coworkers I did finish watching as the weeks went by while they dropped it and waited for the binge. worth the weekly waits, depends on the individual, (that was some world class suffering waiting on the next episode, but it was worth it) that being said my coworkers did mention that the slow pace was one of the reasons for waiting to binge the entirety.

[@ProtagonistOfficial]

I can guarantee that atleast for me, if all anime was released in batches, I would never try out 80% of the shows I end up watching. Because shows air weekly, it means that to follow a show I only have to commit to watching 1 episode a week if I want to keep up with the community and discussion around the show. This would be impossible to do in a pure netflix model where I'd have to either binge a show to keep up with the extremely short discussion and community that develops and dies in on the day of release, or accept the fact that half the show is going to be spoiled for me during release week. At that point I would probably just watch old stuff, and occasionaly check out a new show every once in a while.

[@akashelement4884]

Same, especially since the Netflix binge model doesn't actually get me to watch more episodes. I watch the same amount and just get annoyed at the autoplaying. Plus, a lot of the fun of being in the anime community for me is interacting with the fandoms and seeing the discussions that happen around the weekly episodes. That discussion and community is why I keep up with airing anime rather than waiting for all of the episodes to be out. 1 episode a week feels like less of a commitment to me than 12-24 episodes at once.

[@PokeMultiverse]

@@akashelement4884 I've always felt teased. Even before the binge model, I'd prefer to wait for the show to finish before watching it. I don't even have to do it all in one day but im the type who likes to watch one show at a time and finish it before moving on. If it doesnt have an ending, I tend to ignore it for awhile so I have some episodes I can sink my time into. When I sit down to eat, the less time I spend deciding what to watch or what ive seen already, the better.

[@Iceteague1]

I think the worst for Netflix is a recent discovery where Sentai Filmworks are getting a few anime that are on Netflix and getting home video releases which sounds good but the problem is that they got it from Japanese rights holder and Netflix is charging them a lot of money for the dubs they produced. So Sentai basically is doing there own dub on the series that Netflix already dub but more easier to produce then paying a lot for a Netflix dub.

[@erufailon4723]

@fitzmarker Eva is an unique case because the Japanese rightsholders have an infamously tight grip on the series' western, more specifically English-language, releases. Netflix probably would've been fine with using the ADV dub, buying an old dub from a dead company can't be very expensive. But the Japanese side demanded a new localization. (I think the initial audience reception of 3.0's original dub left them very paranoid of western licensors. There's a ton of information about this on the EvaGeeks wiki.) Knowing this, are you still sure GKIDS would be even able to get the ADV dub, or would have problems getting the Netflix dub?

[@omarmansuri7099]

I genuinely wonder what the price must be if funding a brand new dub is cheaper than licensing the Netflix dub

[@jacksquatt6082]

You missed another problem with Netflix jail. To cut down on competition against the Netflix service, many of the jailed anime never see a physical media release in Western countries. For those of us who enjoy physical media, this is quite a bummer.

[@aquaarietta]

As someone in digital marketing, I found this fascinating. Great work giving some new perspective on Netflix and anime!

[@shiteyanyo1111]

Netflix is probably getting a lot more casuals watching anime too. This happened to a lot of people with ATLA, and apparently OHSHC

[@enoch13th85]

Are those shows? If so what are they?

[@supernerdgirl42]

@@enoch13th85 Avatar the Last Airbender and Ouran High School Host Club

[@forestgrump4723]

Is there something wrong with casual viewers?

[@enoch13th85]

@@supernerdgirl42 Thank you. I've held back on Avatar and have heard some good things. Do you advise watching it to someone who's looking for a new show? I'm mostly into 90s era stuff like Bebop, GITS etc. Sone shonen too like YYH and HxH but not usually not a fan, especially of shonen style humor.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Yeah but they got Baki which seems like they’re TRYING to drive away the normies (I have never met a normie who likes non generic art styles)

[@AskAScreenwriter]

EXCELLENT analysis, and very fair, IMHO. I don't know how many are old enough to remember the days before streaming was 'a thing' and it was common to wait for months, or even a year or more, from an anime's release in Japan for it to make it's way to the US, and the question was often whether a show would get licensed at all, not just when an English version would come out (Whether dub or sub). You might see promotional material at cons and meetups, or hear about shows from people you knew who spoke Japanese, and people sought out fansubs to fill the gap. This, of course, led to huge debates about the ethics of fansubbing and 'pirating' unlicensed shows, which are pretty much moot these days, since current licensing agreements are in place even before shows initially air (I think, someone can check me on this). The breakdown in this video reminds me a lot of those times, with the intersection of the fanbase, the distribution technology, and the economic realities creating new issues. I think there's a different dimension now, though. In the 'pre-streaming' days, there were a LOT of anime that just never made it over officially, or would make a quick splash and soon be forgotten. The overall quality was more, shall we say, UNEVEN, and the shows themselves were not as diverse. It was more a time of 'which 12-15 shows will come over this year' vs. 'which 30 or 40 are coming out this SEASON.' Given the amazing quantity AND quality of shows coming out now, not being able to watch a particular show for a month or two isn't as bothersome, since there are probably several other shows that you CAN watch now, and then you can catch up on the others and still not be too far behind the curve (since a lot of people will be in the same boat as you). As for me, and at least some other older anime fans, many of us just don't have the time to keep up with whatever the 'current hotness' is with a week-by-week investment in an anime that takes a serious belly-flop towards the end (*cough* Darling in the Franxx *cough*). I actually prefer to see how at least the first full season goes before sinking time into it, and prefer the binge-watching for most of them anyway (at the very least, an episode a night, rather than an episode per week.). Thanks again for a thoughtful analysis, and hopefully some great discussions to follow!

[@emmanuelinfantegonzalez4316]

Violet Evergarden was an exception because Kyoto Animation had a great production and they were months ahead or schedule, giving Netflix ample time to make subtitules, but with a normal weekly release I dont think they want to deal with the hassle of having everything done in mere hours.

[@Zalis116]

Other streaming services like CR/Funi get episodes days or weeks in advance as well -- they're not putting everything together in the hours between Japanese broadcast and when the simulcast streams go live.

[@RexZShadow]

Which isn't even that hard if you have the transcript. Like holy fuck man not translating a entire novel. The spoken dialog in one ep isn't some insane amount. I refuse to believe professional translators can't get that shit done in a few hours and get it edited by an editor. Not to mention the anime script would have to be done ahead of time so its definitely more than just hours before airing.

[@SanketMehrotra]

I bet the swelling search numbers are new crowds that are being introduced to anime on Netflix, not the people who are already into the shows.

[@melonlord1414]

I mean, probably. The question is, if that's a bad thing for Netflix. They probably don't care that much if their audience is weebs or none weebs. It doesn't hurt the anime community eighter if anime gets a little bit more mainstream in it's viewership.

[@Cosmstack]

@@melonlord1414 Yeah, for Netflix's business model it's great

[@melonlord1414]

@@Cosmstack I mean, that's what Netflix is interested in. They are a company

[@MagillanicaLouM]

That is likely the huge factor. A lot of ppl new to anime or probably just haven't watched many in a long time likely wouldn't know what sites to hit up to watch a show for free, or maybe even that streaming sites primarily for anime exist in the first place. But everyone knows and is likely already using Netflix, so its easy to stumble upon a neat looking animu preview/or check out the one they hear of in passing a bunch

[@prof.loophole9708]

My counter-argument would be Netflix ONLY uses the binge model, so the data can also be interpreted as "People use Netflix as their TV" or "if a good show is on Netflix and promoted, it will explode woth new anime watchers" Remember for many people the only anime they new as kids were "It was on Toonami" or "It was on Adult Swim". Netflix is the most accessible platform in the US so in itself will cause inflation

[@XenoKnightAlpha]

That's true for me-Netflix is my TV. Personally though I prefer the binge model only because I don't mind waiting a little longer.

[@Hugelag]

I waited over a year for part 4 of JoJo to come to Netflix and when they finally announced a date, it gets pulled. Goody.

[@Danjuw]

Why would you wait for it to come to Netflix?.... just pirate it somewhere?

[@siliconcore]

Just pirate it

[@hughjassstudios9688]

Cancel netflix, get pirating. Speak with your wallet.

[@ShiroKage-h8v]

Depends on your region or country. We got all jojo's part 1-5 here

[@ZylethXenocian]

@@ShiroKage-h8v WHERE. Also dubbed or no? I like rewatching JoJo dubbed after watching it as it airs.

[@JoJoTalksTooMuch]

As a dude who doesn't enjoy binge watching things, I legit can't stand Netflix Jail, it shall get no defense from me!

[@tenacious_takakumi2680]

Oh god the zombie came after GR-brainz. For me, the Netflix-jail isn't a problem because I can't get Netflix hahaha😂😂 haha😭.

[@melonlord1414]

Yeah, it doesn't really fit your content model eighter ^^. I think I enjoy shows more when I binge them, but doing so feels way more like a commitment. I probably would watch way less if I had to binge everything.

[@schumerus6786]

I’m a 1 to 3 episodes guy myself, either I do not watch any, one episode or more but never binge

[@chapdattext3167]

I know right, once you start having a life binge watching is out of the question! It's seasonal for me from now on (unless netflix releases all eps of a new great show that's out in a day)

[@EightThreeEight]

I don't binge either. But I generally don't watch stuff while it airs either; it allows me to work through shows at my own pace, as well as avoid the hype and better form my own opinion on what I'm watching.

[@aahanajain7500]

Netflix is simulcasting MHA in India. Humanity is taking a brave step forward.

[@stevengarcia1193]

I have dropped off of anime/shows that are released weekly simply because I don't have the time. I am a father and husband and I simply am busy then I forget about it. So sometimes the binge option is good on a Sunday when I can sit back and relax. That being said maybe they could release in like 4 episode blocks so it's kinda like watching a movie and that way we only have to wait a month instead of the whole season

[@AsterLea]

One problem is that the numbers here are mostly just comparing Japan weekly release vs US/international Netflix binge release. We don't really have numbers for Netflix weekly release vs Netflix binge release with the same audience. Also, while people may be more likely to watch all of a show if it's all out at once, not everyone is going to want to sit and watch one thing for 5 hours straight either, and we don't really know what that difference is. And honestly I don't know if it's as important to Netflix for someone to watch every episode of a show compared to if the show keeps people paying and subscribing for longer. Even if you only watch the first two episodes of a show, if it's airing weekly you need to keep your Netflix subscription for two weeks to watch both of them. And even if you never get around to the rest, the idea that you started the show and would theoretically like to get back to it might make you decide not to cancel for awhile. However, if it comes out all at once and you watch the whole thing in one or two days, then you don't need Netflix anymore until season 2 comes out or you find another show to watch, forcing them to be paying for multiple whole shows to be constantly coming out to give people something to keep paying for, which has gotta be expensive. I'd also like to see more comparisons of how search popularity goes overtime. While there might be a big spike when a show first comes out, I get the feeling that those spikes are short lived and quickly die out as people binge it in a weekend and then move on to the next thing. How do the spikes with the release of a whole season compare to the release of a premier episode in general? What about the smaller spikes each time a new episode airs in a non-binge model? Or even the spikes when the season finale comes out, if they had the opportunity to hype that up too? Obviously we don't have that information, but without seeing those numbers it's really hard for me to believe that the binge model really makes the most sense financially. The biggest argument that makes sense to me is that Netflix doesn't have a problem keeping subscribers regardless of what they do, so they just don't care. That might change as the competition grows, though. It's going to be increasingly more tempting for people to only subscribe long enough to watch a few specific shows for one month, and then cancel to go subscribe and watch different shows on a different service the next month. You can still do this with weekly shows by waiting until they are over, but there will be some people who will feel compelled to watch as they air, requiring them to hold on to a sub for multiple months. And even for those who don't, they'd be more likely to see those who do continue watching talking about it weekly, reminding them to come back and watch it later. Otherwise, a lot of the talk is likely going to die out shortly after the initial release and people are more likely to forget about it until season 2 comes out, months to years later. I can't help but compare the Netflix model to Disney+ with their new Marvel shows. Wandavision was one show, but it held a lot of people on the service for 8 weeks as it aired, and now Falcon and the Winter Soldier is taking its place. Of course the Marvel behemoth has a lot more pull than that typical anime, but still, that's just two shows that encourage people to subscribe for multiple months each. If Netflix released two anime of equivalent length and popularity, you would only need to subscribe at max one month each, and then you can cancel. And if you can't sit and watch the entire thing at once the day it comes out, it inhibits you from participating in the community response because you might get spoilers until you've watched the whole thing. If you miss the beginning or one or two episodes of a weekly show, then it's a lot easier to jump in and catch up and be on the same page as everyone else, which I think would encourage more people to watch to want to join in. Meanwhile, if you miss the release of a Netflix show and you know there's going to be another one coming out next month, why not wait until both shows you want to watch are out and you can watch them both with just one month subscription. There just seems like so many potential benefits to the weekly model and so few for the binge model, at least without more information. And for most benefits to binging, those who prefer to can easily do so after the show is aired, so it seems like there is very little to lose. Meanwhile, I feel like the binge model can actually encourage people who don't really want to binge to do it compulsively, whether that's what they'd really prefer or not, especially with things like autoplay pushing you towards that. Binging used to be an occasional thing, where you'd do it to catch up on a show you missed, or if you're sick at home, or to re-watch a favorite. Sure, there were always the hardcore people who'd buy tons of DVD sets and spend a good portion of their time immersed in binging media, but that was a dedicated few (although admittedly part of that was due to accessibility). However, now it's becoming the norm for most shows, and expected if you want to participate, and I don't think that's a good thing. Anyway, I think about this a lot since I really hate the binge model, even outside of anime, thus the wall of text. Kudos to anyone who read all that.

[@urieldaluz250]

Netflix jail is like the Disney vault. They’re manipulating scarcity of something that can be gained through other means with the knowledge that they will get money if they dictate when things are available. For consumers it sucks. For the business it’s a no brainer

[@princessthyemis]

Good explanation! 👏

[@devilmikey00]

Not really a fair comparison though, with Disney shit stays out of circulation for years/decades while netflix just waits 12-24 weeks until a show finishes airing before it dumps it on netflix all at once. You can pretty much know when netflix is going to get an anime based off when a show's season ends. Disney is JUST creating false scarcity to maximize profits on old IP, netflix is just adhering to it's content viewing model although not always in a timely manner in some cases.

[@Bakatora04]

That a bad comparison, the netflix situation is the same as a game coming out in japan first and releasing world wide much later, the disney vault is them keeping titles not able for anyone. The netflix jail only really hurt the hardcore anime fan, for the casual is fine and that why they keep doing what they doing.

[@urieldaluz250]

To clarify for all those saying the netflix model is better: I agree. Im not saying its anywhere near as bad as the disney vault. just that as a practice it follows a similar playbook of controlling the release of media to fit what best aligns with the company's modus operandi and profits. the mouse is obviously the worse actor

[@aajohnsoutube]

You are missing a big piece of the puzzle. The huge fan base of Anime that has no interest in being in the fandom. No ani tubers, no anime twitter, no interest in Japan... the ones paying for the family’s Nextfilx Premium. Not me... But a lot of my 40-something friends.

[@Pyramid_Skeem]

GR: How many pirates already have a Netflix subscription? Me with my Netflix subscription and still pirates Netflix content: Transforms into a winged pirate with a shining golden halo. 😇

[@xpforevergaming8609]

I have a Netflix subscription too, but other than the region lock bullshit I prefer fansubs to Netflix ones.

[@Pyramid_Skeem]

@@xpforevergaming8609 yeah netflix translated subtitles are trash and I like having a catalogue to go back to randomly.

[@IZISkull]

What? You want a cookie?

[@DYWYPI]

The argument in favor of the binge model here misses a crucial element: anime productions rely on fandom, to a much greater extent than most western Netflix releases. With prime-time shows for younger, less-otaku audiences being the exception, they don't just want you to watch the show; they want you to buy expensive BD boxes, character song CDs, and stain-resistant dakimakura covers. They want you to start buying the manga, and posting fanart on pixiv, and just keeping the series alive through discussion and fandom, making its money back gradually via merchandise. The Netflix model kills fandom formation in the womb. Of course, there's bigger day-one interest with an entire story being released to take in and talk about, but there's nothing to sustain that past a few days, and outside of the most massively popular shows, everyone has moved on by the next week and discussion has dried up. Remember Bird Box? That sure was a thing that was on absolutely everyone's lips... for about two days. There's no speculation, no unpicking twists or looking for secrets hinting at where the show will go, no time to fall in love with a setting or character, and if you come across it after that maybe-a-week window, nobody to engage and discuss it with. And of course, that suits Netflix just fine. It makes no difference to them whether a series is engaged with briefly and shallowly or if it creates a dedicated long-term fanbase - in fact, they'd probably rather have a userbase that quickly moves on to other shows, more attached to Netflix itself that any one show with a finite amount of content. But for anime studios themselves, the model completely neuters the long-term potential of the series to nurture a stable, healthy fanbase that will support it and keep interest high throughout and past its airing, especially if it were to spread to Japan itself. For fans, it robs us of all kinds of fun fan-works and social engagement a healthy fandom can produce, as well as the ability to actively engage with the series as it progresses, speculating with friends on each development or combing through a complex episode to piece together how that craaaazy cliffhanger twist changes everything we thought was happening, instead of simply hitting "next episode" and waiting passively for the show to explain everything itself.

[@Urgnu]

I just tried to remember what a VPN was again. Luckily there is a new GR video to keep me enlightened!

[@riakun]

"I don't hate them, I just want them to fix their shit." Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head there. That's why I due usually prefer Netflix over Funimation. Also, I do see your point with the whole streaming weekly vs binge watching in one setting thing. Especially when it had to do with the communities of fans... But I'll play devil's advocate and say that I am the person who would rather binge a series. Example: I only recently started MHA, then I binged all four seasons, but now I'm reading the manga and theorizing from there. And once all of season 5 is released, then I'll go and binge all of season 5 in one go. I just find it more fun and less frustrating that way. But I do understand people wanting to discuss the series as it comes out, though it is frustrating for me because of spoilers xD

[@DaWoWzer]

the worst part about netflix anime is the fact they seem to never release them on to physical media.

[@boniboni4912]

That does bothers me, cuz sometimes shows just disappear from the platform and then one goes to pirating to watch them again

[@Rosesofdeath13]

Yeah I looked up some anime that were Netflix exclusive and I only found violet evergarden and the first season of seven deadly sins. I have yet to see an official US physical release of the sailor moon eternal movies that isn't a bootleg.

[@chrisfox880]

When you put shows behind bars that subscribers should be able to watch, it just incentivizes people to watch pirated versions and never even end up watching on Netflix

[@Arcynite]

Yea it sucks with Netflix refusing to simulcast their licensed anime weekly, but if I'm being honest, I do binge most seasonal shows at the last week or two of each quarter. Biggest gripe would be WHY considering they actually do do weekly episode releases even with some current K-Drama series.

[@SourRobo8364]

It baffles my mind that Netflix was the first to create streaming service yet all the other ones run like crap.

[@R3C0RDBREAK3R]

Netflix got lesser end of the deal with "The Promise Neverland" ( Season 2 /Anime Only) thinking it'll benefit them like DemonSlayer will later down the road.

[@couldntpickausername4099]

ok I've got a lot to comment on here. First great video, definitely a discussion spawner. First: should everything be binge model? no, I think it works for some things but I've noticed that shows I binge when the next season rolls around I barely remember what happened in them but a weekly show stays in my head a lot longer. Second: mainly just pointing out that this extends beyond anime at least here in Canada. We originally didn't get Doom Patrol or Titans until months later. Flash I have to wait 2 days to watch. When Netflix had Black Lightning it was an entire week behind. Third, tangent: as a fellow Canadian this reminds me of what Global used to do way back in the day. They'd buy rights to shows like Stargate and either just not air them or air them at awful times out of order just to prevent other channels from getting them. We were an entire year behind on the show for a long time.

[@thenarrator8781]

Sub watchers: I can't believe we have to wait forever for this anime instead of watching it when it airs! Dub watchers: First time?

[@Zalis116]

At least things are better for dub watchers than they used to be, with release delays measured in weeks instead of years.

[@xpforevergaming8609]

@@Zalis116 Well, I still have yet to hear about Chihayafuru S3 getting a dub... Having watched the first two seasons dubbed there's no way I would go for sub...

[@repulsethemonkey1396]

I like watching subs first then dub, so while they're making the dub, the sub still has some time to simmer in my head. And then when its released I get to rewatch the same show with the new experience of english VA

[@eman2863]

I feel the another issue is Netflix not releasing their original or “original” connect on physical form. I would love a Devilman or a Rohan Blu-Ray. But in Netflix’s eyes they probably see that as bad for their content library and would be better if they were the sole source for series. Also yes, I know they have done releases for some stuff like Seven Deadly Sins and Castlevania but my point still stands.

[@XenoKnightAlpha]

Oh, right. Because "exclusives", and the draw for more subscribers

[@alpine1600s]

He is wearing a RED vest... but is that a single knot?! I can only assume a true employee of Netflix would proudly Double Windsor!🧐 🤣

[@kingace6186]

The real question is when Netflix finally releases the anime, is the quality better like what happens with Bluray DVDS.

[@EChacon]

I'm even more skeptical and pessimistic on Aggretsuko, Ultraman (2019), Beastars, Dino Girl Gauko, Levius, among others which have some of my favorite LA Dubs in the last 4-5 years wound up being licensed by Sentai Filmworks instead of Funimation or Viz Media and getting a new In-house dub based in Houston. At least with Funimation when they license Seven Deadly Sins, Violet Evergarden, and recently Cannon Busters they kept the original Netflix dub instead of redubbing the series as a whole.

[@CornishCreamtea07]

So I don't fully understand it, but what happened is Netflix signed onto something called SAG-AFTRA in 2019. Now all their dubs are Union, and they now cost a lot more to license. Going forward it may seem like this could be the norm regardless of whoever licenses it.

[@fenrirr22]

Violet's dub was better than the Japanese original, of course, Funimation went with it.

[@bstybyz3]

It'd be one thing if Netflix only waited until a show was over to add it to the platform but, no, they wait MONTHS after to add them. Seven Deadly Sins is a perfect example: it was what? 6 months after airing in Japan that it finally got added for US audiences? Do you really think Studios are gonna wait MONTHS to see show data off Netflix? I don't. I don't like to pirate, which is why I have Funimation, Hulu and VRV subscriptions but, if I find out Netflix got the rights for a show I want to watch, you better believe I'm going to Erai for those fan-subs and PB for live action. Netflix Anime Jail was the very reason why I dropped the service.

[@RoboJean1994]

One other reason as to why it takes so long is that Netflix dubs the shows into multiple languages. Coordinating the dubbing process for multiple languages is tedious and is also something that is often ignored since any language that isn't English doesn't matter to the people discussing anime online.

[@Darkclowd]

Not the strongest argument because they could just work on English and other popular languages first, release them, and then later release the dubs for the rest of the languages. They could also do what Funimation does and release the subs when they come out, and then the dubs much later on. Doesn't make sense to hold back thousands from watching a show because eleven people want the Portuguese dub.

[@RoboJean1994]

@@Darkclowd So, your solution is to make others wait, as long as it's not you? Netflix is successful with their model because they're doing their content for the largest audience they can do. Do you know how many people there are willing to give Anime a try but won't because so much of it requires a reasonable amount of English skills? You gotta ask yourself: Which group is more profitable for your streaming platform: The group willing to pirate because they can't wait, or the people in multiple countries who can watch the shows because you got rid of the language barrier for them?

[@Darkclowd]

@@RoboJean1994 I'm not suggesting to hold back for other people who speak less common languages for long periods of time. Just that they should release each dub when they're done, rather than waiting for all of them to complete and release them at the same time.

[@Cosmstack]

I'm not entirely sure that's the reason. There's multiple international teams working basically independently on those dubs. It's not just one or two teams overlooking/supervising it. It seems kinda arbitrary to not release a dub because another dub, that is developed almost entirely independently from the other, isn't done yet.

[@Nerealete]

recently I realized I really don't enjoy the binge model, because I end up finishing shows I don't have a real interest in. I much prefer watching shows weekly, where I can digest what I've seen, look at theories and share the enjoyment with other people on twitter for example, and also build up the excitement for the next episode, be sad in company when a show ends, etc. But from friends and people I know that are just casual anime watchers, the binge model works fine because it's easy for them, especially on Netflix where they don't have to go digging through a ton of shows to find something they might enjoy.

[@frederickgrandison3609]

I hate when the sequel of the series like Clannad: After Story ain't there

[@XenoKnightAlpha]

True, that's a pain.

[@phlaryx7145]

Yeah. Like how they’ve had the first season of attack on Titan for the longest time and never upload the rest.

[@void2772]

Netflix own the exclusive rights for season 2 of Teasing master takagi san but don’t own season 1. Makes no sense

[@xpforevergaming8609]

@@void2772 I don't know if it's just a region lock thing, but I can't find Higurashi's second season on Netflix (I'm talking about the OG anime from 2006), only the first season. Watching just the first season literally doesn't make sense, as the second season answers all the questions. Netflix logic...

[@ellavalentine7650]

one good thing that might come from the binge model is, at least they can push back on a release date, cause crunch time is real and deadly

[@julio1148]

Notice that the projects that go into Netflix Jail are of higher production value than the Netflix originals. This may be because they may be using the expected revenue generated by broadcasts in conjunction with the Netflix deal to achieve this. (Sorry for the dry tone, just finished writing a paper lol)

[@OptimusOmega6]

I prefer binging myself, and waiting for releases has never bothered me. As you say, there have been several shows that, as much as I enjoy them, I have been unable to keep up with on a weekly basis, and even on platforms like Crunchyroll or Funimation I usually end up waiting until a series has completed and binging it anyway. Yashahime and Re:Zero are two recent examples that come to mind. Ditto Attack on Titan. I'm far more likely to finish a series if I wait and find the time to watch it in as few sittings as possible, rather than making the time each week to watch a single episode.

[@Neetaku86_vt]

Bruh! I just found out that the new Shaman King is going to be on Netflix! WTH! That sucks! I was so looking forward to it!

[@JoshuaCodes]

Can only hope for a good fansub group to do the show.

[@amirgriffin2546]

It sucky but I’ll stop watch it on Netflix

[@J4ridan]

who cares about jails, just sail the seas

[@JoshuaCodes]

@@J4ridan Still have to hope for fansubs though!

[@ShiroKage-h8v]

Westerns have it hard. Netflix isn't that bad tho

[@TheJH1015]

ok, but it's also a possibility that the people that watched shows in Netflix Jail during Japanese release (through pirating) basically advertised the shows, *causing* those massive spikes when it was released on Netflix in the West, because people *knew* it was good? Especially for Beastars?

[@key099able]

Also you can’t forget that every show get dubbed into multiple languages which takes times and can’t be done with the anime produced during airing and Violet evergarden was the exception because it was done long before airing.

[@PhenomsServant4]

Doesnt explain why they cant release subs after they air. If Crunchyroll can do it, Netflix should be able to find a way.

[@key099able]

@@PhenomsServant4 Because the titles would get less noticed because lack of dub and by the time it would be finished, it would not get as much eyes as it could have if it’s been day 1.

[@chadmiettunen]

Personally, Netflix Jail doesn't bother me. For three reasons. 1 - I remember a time where the only anime I could watch was whatever Toonami decided to air. At least this way we eventually get to watch all the things. 2 - I've already got more things to watch than I have time, so waiting isn't an issue. 3 - And probably most importantly, I don't have a Netflix account and haven't for years.

[@jimmyzbike]

I actually don’t like the binge model, but that is just because I start so many series and finish so few. It takes a very special series to hold my ADD mind all the way to the end.

[@khimeraQ]

Netflix Jail is only a thing if you have to watch it in order to keep up with the online trends and avoid missing out on whatever discussion you would've missed otherwise. Me? I'm a veteran weeb. I'm used to waiting for my content, and now I tend to wait until an anime has years worth of good clout before watching. Since Netflix usually gets the quality anime I'm looking for and pirates tend to praise the anime that eventually come to Netflix, so I usually have my viewing schedule planned month in advance. When the time comes I'll get to it. If I want to be that ahead of the curve for a show, I'll read the manga.

[@ReelPodcasts]

My personal theory is that the holding in jail is actually for the dub. Simulcast in Japan actually has no English subs (probably on purpose). I can assume the data they have might back the fact that more people will watch the dub.

[@ade1174]

Yeah, people who frequent anime KZbin or reddit definitely prefer sub but a lot of the more casual audience will prefer dubs, so it makes sense for Netflix to hold back the release until the dub is done.

[@avataraarow]

I do kinda hope that the seasonal model never fully goes away. It’s nice having things to look forward to on a weekly basis and not find new shows when you’re constantly finishing stuff through binging

[@duckgoesquack4514]

The problem that I have with Netflix jail is once the show is out, I forget the show existed

[@kymerahYT]

People tend to think that everyone who’s into anime are people who watch subs and live online. False. Most anime fans are those who watch in English and watch legally. Having a dub is more important than you think, and if you think I’m wrong, you’re the ones I’ve mentioned at the very top.

[@schumerus6786]

Oh so that’s what “Netflix Jail” actually means, didn’t know actually, I though it was meant to say that once a show is in Netflix, the show is exclusively on there. I was wrong

[@JeddHampton]

I'm used to binging anime. Much of my anime watching has been on home video releases until recently. I would like to make one note. I regularly drop binge shows between seasons. There is a year or more between them, and I have no memory of what happened in most of these. The binge model does very little for getting into people's long term memory. It's more of a roller coaster. You get on, you are in the moment the whole time, you there for the high and low points, and then you get off. It's enjoyable, but I couldn't tell you what happened if you asked.

[@Basher.G]

When Shaman King comes to Netflix as numerous episodes at once I'm gonna watch one per week just to spite them

[@aaronkelly1762]

Amen

[@matijatu]

The google thrends are not a good metric in this case, the main reason for the search spikes is related to just how masive netflix is. Those shows gets exposed to a much larger number of people than they do outside of netflix. Another reason for the search metrics not saying much is because hardore fans usually don't google shows they watch, they look them up trough third party services like myanimelist, anichart, etc.

[@cthellis]

“How do you defend Netflix Jail?” You don’t. You yell at them. Constantly.

[@andrewberkin5505]

Being an anime fan who is nearly 60 I like watching the Eps each week, as this is how I first watched anime (and other TV). Pre VHS, DVD, Streaming services. You had to watch it when it can on the TV or it was gone. This was why cliffhangers were so good, you could talk to your friends about the show and how you thought the cliffhanger would be resolved, there was a sense of anticipation as you waited for the day it was shown. Those who binge watch totally miss out on this (as well I've heard that Netflix has a feature to cut out the opening credits and theme song, so you miss out on the identifying tune).

[@faptaincabulous2557]

I dunno man if I'm already pirating for whatever anime is coming to Netflix I'm going to be pirating for anything on Netflix. Not that I'd do such a horrible thing.

[@IceclawFirebolt]

The issue with binging anime and series in general is that it hurts fandom engagement though. If you watch a series weekly for months, you regularly engage in it and it sticks in your memory for much longer as opposed to watching something the day it comes out as quickly as possible so you don't get spoiled, and then a week later barely anyone is talking about it anymore. And yes there are exceptions to both. But netflix thinking that giving series several seasons isn't worth it is partially because of their binge model. Sure, more people finish the series in a shorter amount of time, but what's the point if large parts of the audience have forgotten everything that happened by the time the next season comes around. Weekly releases give you time to digest the content, make theories and create and discuss within the fandom. Yes, people also move on from that but it takes longer and you tend to remember the story and characters better.

[@raymondtrabulsy7294]

I am pretty guilty of dropping off shows. I never finished Jujutsu Kaisen because of this.

[@Mary-tb4ug]

Although I think it's convenient to watch anime on Netflix all at once, I would be sad if there was no weekly streaming model overall. I personally really enjoy reading theories and watching reactions and recaps on KZbin of my favourite series. I think the weekly model means you are more invested in the show because you watch it over several months, as compared to Netflix shows which I can consume in a day or two and then forget about. I personally think Netflix is great for getting "older" anime that people have heard of but may not have taken the time when it was released to visit, as well as works as a good gateway for new anime watchers. In my local cosplay/anime group, I've noticed several new people join asking for recommendations based only on Netflix content, so I think it's great it has some of the "classics" or big ticket anime, but I think seasonal anime overall is still a positive thing for community building and creating hype around a show.

[@assassinzoldyck3943]

Never been this early to anything in my life

[@scarketzanpakto]

So... Shaman King was signed for 52 episodes, the manga has been out forever and we all know there's going to be a huge chunk of people watching it either on Japanese TV or via pirating. There are going to be screencaps, memes and clips everywhere. And Netflix wants non-Japanese to wait until... some unspecified time and binge it? When it would (imo) be more productive to simulcast it, collect it and then do an ad drop when the entire anime is out for those not aware of air dates, but casually interested in the genre.

[@joshualapura]

Fansub for now!

[@hikari8047]

Re:zero review is that what I was looking for........ Hope you will give it us early than white Fox announces season 3

[@rikumajumder1558]

I think you are getting one thing wrong. It's not that Netflix is tapping into the already existing Anime audience but rather their general audience who want to try out this new thing called 'Anime'. I mean Anime isn't anymore a fringe hobby. Even if you hate Anime, you know it exists and you know people are crazy for it. So if a Mainstream Platform like Netflix adds it, a general viewer will check it out prior to see if they want to see it. I mean it's already there for free since they are already a Netflix subscriber. So yes, in a way Netflix is bringing in a New audience to Anime albeit maybe slower and to only a few mainstream shows. However they are most definitely missing out on the already existing audience who would easily get a Netflix Subscription if they just air the show 'normally'. Majority of these already existing Anime Fandoms are not getting a Netflix Subscription to view the show. They either have already another Streaming subscription or have bought it or became a Pirate. In the end, Netflix is definitely missing out on a lot of new subscribers.

[@solidmasterdante]

Meanwhile, I'm over here not watching shows until they're done REGARDLESS of platform :p I just hate the wait. Cliffhangers are the worst, I'd rather just move through a show at my own pace.

[@boniboni4912]

Yeeeeees exactly!!!!! I do always the same

[@pavithra3859]

We won't talk about TPN S2. It's okay Arkada, we'll get through this.

[@Euphamia]

One thing that wasn't mentioned that i think has merit is Dub and Sub being released at the same time. Many animation studios seem to be one month or more on a Dub version of most anime releases and I feel (just guessing too) that netflex wants to release all its anime with a SUB and DUB option in full at the same time. There has been one or two animes i have noticed that didnt have a DUB option on release but thats has become more rare. I think this is a factor has DUB's are getting MUCH better with better paid VO work and better translations. I know there are those that will die on the hill for Sub only anime but as i have gotten older i prefer to watch my anime and not read it. Plus a ending note... in all i prefer binge as i hate waiting a week for the next episode. I just want to watch it in one go and it makes me happy.

[@rattlehead999]

I personally have no problem with Netflix releasing all the episodes at once, because I don't watch an anime until all its episodes are released, usually all the episodes of a season, but sometimes I might as well just wait to see how many seasons there will be and wait for the whole thing to be released. I miss the 2000s when a lot of great anime was released all at once until the end. Chopping an anime into seasons released over the span of many years really disconnects you from the story, world and characters. Attack on Titan is a great example of this, or SNAFU/Oregairu, great anime, but my enjoyment was lower than it would have been, have they not been released over the span of multiple years.

[@Cosmstack]

I'm kind of the opposite of you in that regard. Watching it weekly actually strengthens my engagement with anime, because I get time to process what happened, make my own guesses as to what might happen next and can discuss this with other people so when the next episode drops it tends to be much more satisfying to me than immediately fulfilling my desire to know what's coming next. You know, instant gratification and all, or rather, not getting that when watching weekly. This was especially the case for me with Attack On Titan. I really liked watching it weekly, especially with the mystery aspect. Also, you can still wait until it's all out and then watch everything like in the 2000s, but at the time, that was more a result of how the technology was. There were no streaming services and only a few anime were aired weekly on TV (if you lived in the right country), while the rest went straight to DVD when the DVDs came out in Japan.

[@sterlingmuse5808]

I think that binging vs weekly depends a lot on each individual person. Personally, weekly is too slow for me; I lose interest too quickly to stay excited for that long. But the people who are spending that entire week thinking, theorizing, and discussing it probably get far more out of the weekly format than the binge format.

[@rattlehead999]

@@sterlingmuse5808 I rarely need any time to theorize and think about what I watch. And it's too slow for me too in a sense that I get disconnected from the series, world and everything. I don't like to call it binge, I don't always watch it all at once, but If I can I do, because to me it's much better.

[@fanmovie357]

What do you mean in the 2000s anime was released all at once? that never happened, its just that streaming and simulcast did not exist and when you got a show translated 90% of the time, the show had been like 1 year since finished.

[@rattlehead999]

​@@fanmovie357 I didn't mean they released all the episodes in one day. I meant that when an anime started airing, it aired until it ended non-stop every week. For example, Fullmetal Alchemist started airing and didn't stop until it was finished. Same with Death Note, Stein's gate, D'Gray Man(technically it had a sequel, but it could be counted as finished after the first season of 104 episodes), Monster and many more. There were still anime chopped up in seasons, but that wasn't as prevalent.

[@mohamedelhediissa289]

Wow I can't believe you actually gave compelling arguments for and against "the netflix jail"

[@gundambassexe31]

I despise Netflix jail treatment

[@quincyquiz]

the biggest problem for me personally when it comes to Netflix jail is that I don't enjoy binge watching often. When I start watching an old anime from my to watch list or a recently dropped one on Netflix and they really hook me, I sometimes will watch them all in a few days. Though, I have noticed, this seems to only apply to 11-13 episode shows. Ones with 24-26 episodes always lose me halfway through because I'm burned out from binging and they sit in my queue half finished for months on end until I finally feel like watching more. Not to mention, the fact that so many people can tolerate binging while I can't means I tend to either have to avoid fan spaces for weeks to months when something new comes out, or I look up all the major spoilers after I can't watch any more so I can go to fan spaces but get spoiled on my own terms. When the third season of Stranger Things came out, I could only binge half of it before feeling like it was too much, because the episodes are so much longer and it can be quite tense. I loved the show immensely at the time and wanted to just see it play out, but I was so stressed that other people already knew how it would resolve and I wanted to know but physically couldn't watch more yet, so I looked up pretty much everything major from the second half. If shows like that released week to week, I could've engaged in fandom spaces without ever getting burned out, but because it was all dropped at once, I could only watch some of it, but still went back to fandom spaces because there was no way to mute...just half of it. This season of anime was PACKED, and I doubt I would've watched everything I did if they were all dropped in their entirety around the same time. Like, yeah, I would've gotten to them EVENTUALLY, but many I probably would've put off for months, or even years. The routine of it and only needing to set aside a half hour every week for each means I'm even consistently finishing shows that are mediocre or even bad because I feel invested and want to see them through to the end. I even want to come back to and finish TPN season two just to see the dumpster fire with my own eyes, having put it on hold halfway through only because I wanted to experience the story in the manga before I saw too much of the butchered version. And even when an anime is god awful, I tend to remember it more if I watched it week to week. I could probably point out a vast majority of the shows I watched while they were airing by going through my completed anime just because they took up so much time cumulatively, as I would watch them every week while also thinking about them and engaging in fan content about them the six days in between each episode. They're often more special to me and I can remember how I felt in my personal life for not just the show as a whole and how my life was around that time, but individual episodes. Ones I watched when I was super excited the whole week prior and couldn't stop thinking about it, ones that were the only thing I was looking forward to during a hard week or month or more, those stick in my brain. Even if I can't recall them off the top of my head, if I rewatch or see a screenshot or gif or anything, I remember. I don't fully binge many things, usually watching things in smaller chunks ranging from one episode at a time, to up to ten if its longer and I'm really into it, so this also applies to Netflix releases or anime from my backlog that I'm finally getting around to. I remember certain moments and episodes because they were a part of my life for longer. That's something that's far more rare when you binge watch anime, whether it be something finally put on Netflix or just something you're watching from your list. Sorry about the Stranger Things tangent, and that this is so long, but if you did read it all, thanks for reading :)

[@aang529]

Man I just wanna see that Rezero review of yours ;_;

[@tenacious_takakumi2680]

Also waiting for that. It's probably his next scheduled video

[@powwowken2760]

Your argument in favor of the binge model hits home for me and how I dropped Jujutsu Kaisen, I stopped watching the show around episode 7, not because it was bad by any means, but the hype had died down and the next arc the show seemed to be building up sounded like an out of nowhere "TOURNAMENT ARC!" so I simply found myself not checking back the next week, or the week after, etc. However if I didn't have to wait a week and could've clicked the next episode immediately, I 100% would not have dropped the show.

[@adityapandey9116]

Arkada Rezero S2 Review.....

[@jeancanestri5572]

I remember this feeling.... when the Bravest Warriors cartoon moved to VRV... US only vrv....

[@Danjuw]

Me who pirates everything because all western anime streaming services are absolutely garbage: OH NO! Anyway...

[@laianepeixoto698]

The thing about Netflix is that the audience is larger. Most of the anime watchers, probably, aren't following the season releases. I had to change my habits of watching because of my husband, he prefer to watch everything at once. So usually we are a couple seasons behind. So in the end, for us it does not matter the "Netflix jail" Netflix is not our main go to, though. They still don't have a lot of stuff.

[@odhrandillonkelly9262]

I kind of disagree with this. It’s a great video but I feel like a lot of anime fans think that they have a right to watch any anime they want whenever they want but that just isn’t true. Netflix just have a different business model than other streaming services and claiming that there’s some scheme going on behind the scenes is kind of dumb. Like if a show was good when it comes out it’s going to be good a few months later. That’s my take and I know people are going to disagree with me but whatever I guess.

[@prognerite9447]

I don’t mind Netflix’s business model. If a show is exclusive to a paid streaming service, I just wait for the whole thing to be released and then pay the month

[@MysteryMii]

I do find that the Netflix "binge" release model does have a flaw: considering the amount of movies and shows Netflix releases on a weekly basis now, it can lead to anything that doesn't have a big marketing push by Netflix getting lost in the shuffle. The model did make Netflix standout when they began their forays into "original" programming, but as the juggernaut they are now, it can cause shows that they don't give big marketing pushes for to not being noticed by the masses. This is arguably why a lot of the new streaming services that popped up over the past two years are adopting weekly release models for a good chunk of their original shows. They want their shows to stand out and stay in the conversation longer. Hell, Netflix is even starting to realize that the "binge" release model doesn't work with all types of programming, as they recently announced that two of their reality shows (The Circle and Too Hot to Handle) will be moving to a weekly release model for their second seasons (yes, I know these aren't the first or last shows Netflix has used a weekly release model for, but this is the first time they're really publicizing the weekly release model).

[@TheAssassin409]

this is a problem that only 11% of anime watchers even consider a problem.

[@EightThreeEight]

I'm in the 89% that isn't that bothered.

[@aenean.]

I actually just knew that this was a problem until Arkada mentioned it. 😅

[@Mrinternasional]

I like when Netflix gets an anime watching anime week to week makes me forget about shows

[@512TheWolf512]

yarr, me maties, no jail shall stop us!

[@enoch13th85]

Aye aye Cap'n. Plunder the beast who aired Cuties into bankruptcy.

[@Annikai]

ngl, when I started watching this I was like "Does this dude not realize that most people don't care about simulacast?" so I was a little surprised when I went on and saw that that was the exact argument you were making. I think a lot of hard core anime fans tend to forget that they aren't the primary western audience of most shows that make it to netflix.

[@boniboni4912]

Yep

[@Oronak]

After Cuties I wave the jolly rodgers for anything out of netflix tbh

[@enoch13th85]

The fact that it took me this much scrolling to find someone else talking about that sick scandal.... I believe every person with a shred of morality has a duty to cancel their subscriptions if they still have one.

[@indigoblack396]

I've said this for years to my friends, but Netflix needs to lean more into their strengths: anime made for netflix. If it's an original netflix title made by and for netflix then it oversteps the Netflix Jail issue and they can release it all at once like Devilman. They can have a massive audience have access to the show and the anime community will help amplify that initial boom, crystalize it's presence within the anime community consciousness, and help give it longer legs for it's long term success by having a better chance of people discussing/making content for/recommending the show in the long run. On top of that if your gonna be on/made for netflix more shows need to take advantage of this. I've only ever seen one anime really take advantage of the fact that it was a netflix anime: The Great Prentender. It's the type of show where the main characters travel to a lot of different countries and speak different languages within the show. They took all of the different dubs they made for the show and edited them together in a way where if they were speaking a different language within the show then they were actually speaking that language. It's a really immersive experience and really helps give that international scale that the show is going for. If they have a chance and they have characters within the show speaking a different language then more shows need to do that! That's a unique advantage that Netflix has that none of its other anime streaming competitors have.