Glaucus and Scylla - The Dangers of Unrequited Love - Greek Mythology

[@patrickmcguire7896]

Oh wow! Didn’t know Scylla had such a tragic story! Also didn’t know Circe had other stories besides that in the Odyssey

[@DatcleanMochaJo]

That's because its actually a retcon. If you read the original Tale found in the Odyssey none of this is mentioned. She is referred to by "she" but her female form is not mentioned nor Glaucus. She was more akin to the hydra. The backstory of Scylla has changed multiple times. Heck the new backstory mentions she has dog heads around her waist but the video doesn't mention those. Or how formidable she is. Mere weapons can't hurt her and she even rivals the gods.

[@justbreathe_]

@@DatcleanMochaJohere we go. Homer is the alpha and omega of Greek mythology. I spent 5 years studying mythology in college and it’s exhausting to see others talk about it. Homer was the most unreliable storyteller of all.

[@demetriuspatterson4799]

@@justbreathe_ who would you recommend reading?

[@justbreathe_]

@@demetriuspatterson4799 Pausanias and Hesiod are good starts.

[@AirQuotes]

You should read Madaline Miller book Circe. The back story of these characters is quite different, and just the start

[@erinboateng5961]

Poor Scylla, guys and girls(because this can happen both ways) please don’t try to force someone into loving you, it will never end well. If you truly love them then you will let them go

[@mikasauchiha6785]

Yes. The art of letting go.

[@chasegriffin5205]

That's a solid Fact 💯

[@ArchRASahi]

FACTS, NEVER FORCE SOMEONE TO LOVE YOU, IT’S NOT RIGHT

[@Tatokun92]

Only if both are willing and have true love for each other, then procced to a happy relationship.

[@lassesgamekanaal]

Letting go is so hard though, even if you actively want to.

[@more17]

Poor Scylla. Always felt bad for her.

[@immystery3946]

Same, she didn't deserve this

[@veronicastromberg6755]

She and medusa were both such misunderstood monsters

[@immystery3946]

@@veronicastromberg6755 well, in Medusa's case, at least, it depends on if you read the more Roman or Greek version of her story; the Romans didn't like their version of Athena called Minerva (I think I can't remember, and I'm too lazy to search right now) because she wasn't their patron god of war that was Ares/Mars. So basically, the Greeks loved her and spoke of her as benevolent and Ares as bloodthirsty when the Romans saw it as the opposite. So, in Greek versions, Medusa is evil and vile, whereas in Roman versions, she is a poor woman who was a scapegoat for Poseidon's/Neptune's actions

[@stuffynosepatrol]

@@veronicastromberg6755 medusa isn't misunderstood. The story of her being sa'd by posideon was made up.

[@diooverheaven6561]

@@veronicastromberg6755 Medusas sad story is Roman version made to slander Greek gods as in original she was always a monster, had 2 gorgon sisters and monster parents

[@veronicastromberg6755]

I never understood why people obtain love potions to force people to love them when they'd never want it done to themselves

[@icaliver]

It was probably not a love potion and it’s a bad translation or deviation over time, it’s was probably wine or seasoning food and drink usual is the tool of seduction.

[@homelesskiller]

COPE

[@stuffynosepatrol]

@@homelesskiller sounds like you're single

[@homelesskiller]

@@stuffynosepatrol I am and I wouldn’t have it any other way

[@stuffynosepatrol]

@@homelesskiller sounds like cope to me

[@nicholaslienandjaja1815]

Fun fact: Scylla is also a kaiju in the MonsterVerse. Her MonsterVerse design resembles a hybrid of a squid, a crab, a spider, and an ammonite. She was previously contained in Sedona, Arizona until she was awakened by King Ghidorah (the only kaiju that refused to obey King Ghidorah's call were Godzilla, Mothra, and King Kong).

[@nicholaslienandjaja1815]

Now I want to see Charybdis as well in the MonsterVerse (my guess is that just like Scylla, Charybdis was also one of the kaiju that were awakened by King Ghidorah).

[@nycot107]

Most of the other Monsterverse Kaiju were named after Mythical creatures, beings, or people: Behemoth - A Kaiju that looks like a cross between a sloth and a mammoth named after a monstrous creature from the Bible Sekhmet - A Kaiju resembling a gigantic lioness named after the Ancient Egyptian Goddess of War Methuselah - A Prehistoric-looking Kaiju named after a Biblical figure Amhuluk - A Kaiju with tentacles and tree-like appendages named after a mythical creature from the Kalupuyan People of Oregan. Tiamat - A sea serpent Kaiju that was named after a Mesopotamian ancient goddess of the sea

[@the_reptilian_researcher_360]

Titanus Scylla is the reason I looked up this video. It was nice to see that another MonsterVerse fan did the same.

[@titan133760]

And then she was killed by Godzilla in Rome in Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire

[@LadyDragoncat]

Poor Scylla. Not only is she an example of unrequited love, but she and Charybdis form the saying "between a rock and a hard place".

[@pascaleelliott63]

This is what many like Glaucus mistake limerence for love. It starts with infatuation, and longing, putting them on a pedestal, believeing they are what they need in their lives to be happy. But then, when something snaps them into reality and the bigger picture, or maybe even a slight flaw in the person they're obsessed with, or damage they themselves have done that does irreversable damage to their source of infatuation, their desire for them deteriorates, and what they perceived as "love" is turned right off. He let his infatuation cloud his mind, and by finding ways to force his fantasy into reality, did irreversible damage to Scylla, who despite being innocent in this whole situation, paid the price for his selfish actions.

[@ajizel13]

The one woman who wasn't pursued by zeus, and STILL got a ducked up outcome

[@Raximus3000]

?

[@prosto-random]

Don't forget about medusa

[@Raximus3000]

@@prosto-random If you buy into Ovid's version.

[@prosto-random]

@@Raximus3000 I know, that there are other versions of Medusa's origin

[@Raximus3000]

@@prosto-random By a roman anti authoritarian, the woke of the time.

[@ravenofthemist]

Moral of the story: Just understand that "No" means no, its not some cryptic riddle to decode and it costs nothing to be respectful 😂

[@sifilore9462]

I always thought it was Triton who was in love with her. Triton, son of Poseidon and another sea god. These 2 (Glaucus and Circe) weren't in love with those of their desires, they were infauated. Back in those days the people commonly thought love and infauation were the same thing. Scylla's description in other sources say her upper body was normal, but around her hips were multiple heads of vicious dogs and dozens of tentacles underneath.

[@jessnalulila5709]

I mean Triton had consorts, but I don't remember Scylla being one of them

[@user-zp7jp1vk2i]

most still think L and InF. are not only the same thing, KK sells it.

[@dianagoenaga7263]

So he wasn't really in love with her, right? He didn't respect that she said 'No' to a relationship in the first place, basically drugged her, and soon as she wasn't pretty he dipped.

[@arvinroidoatienza7082]

That's was this version. The official version has Circe dripping the poison on Scylla's water, as she was a naiad.

[@Nev1812]

Kinda like most modern USA relationships 😅

[@josephlee6464]

​@@Nev1812now how does that make s sense

[@homelesskiller]

COPE

[@vanlau546]

​@@arvinroidoatienza7082esa es la versión que me contó mi abuela.

[@caseygobel1227]

I read a version where Circe out of jealousy actually poured the poison into the pool Scylla bathed in which caused her to be the monster we know today, which she is one of the monsters in Greco-Roman mythology you can't help but feel pity for as they didn't deserve such a horrible fate.

[@leyrua]

"Scylla on the Rocks" sounds like something I would order at a bar. 😂

[@SeeUinHistory]

😂

[@andreferguson3376]

This is the first time i heard this version. All other versions i have known over the years is that out of jealousy Circe poured the potion in a pool Scylla frequently bathes and turned her . Liked that version better

[@CymonTempler]

Now that I know how Scylla was created I have to know how Charybdis came about.

[@arvinroidoatienza7082]

She's Poseidon's daughter r with his grandma Gaea

[@LyraBarnes]

From Wikipedia: "Charybdis aided her father Poseidon in his feud with her paternal uncle Zeus and, as such, helped him engulf lands and islands in water. Zeus, angry over the land she stole from him, captured and chained her to the sea-bed. Charybdis was then cursed by the god and transformed into a hideous bladder of a monster, with flippers for arms and legs, and an uncontrollable thirst for the sea. As such, she drank the water from the sea thrice a day to quench it, which created whirlpools. She lingered on a rock with Scylla facing her directly on another rock, making a strait. In some myths, Charybdis was a voracious woman who stole oxen from Heracles, and was hurled by the thunderbolt of Zeus into the sea, where she retained her voracious nature."

[@daviddave5092]

More like the danger of a dude who can't handle rejection. What a tragic story

[@kriegermaria9923]

Shes at least powerful now but circe is to blame to shes a jelous woman like hera

[@patrickmcguire7896]

In some myths Scylla is a daughter of Apollo & Hecate.Also I think Charybdis was a daughter of Poseidon & Gaea, originally a giantess but Zeus turned her into a monster for destroying too much land

[@miscellaneoussarnian5282]

now I think the Giantess was turned into a monster as punishment for being involved in that whole Gigantanomachy thing

[@RedCommunistDragon]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@miscellaneoussarnian5282Titananomachy. The Giants had whole other thing going on, which Charybdis may or may not have been a part of.

[@miscellaneoussarnian5282]

@@RedCommunistDragon Hera probably turned Scylla into the monster we know now. Probably after Zeus

[@miscellaneoussarnian5282]

@@RedCommunistDragon if Charybdis was a giantess like her half-brothers on both of her parents sides. Then it is plausible that Zeus might have turned into a monster after the Gigantomachy

[@RedCommunistDragon]

@@miscellaneoussarnian5282 That seems like a Hera thing to do

[@aditghifari5039]

When someone force you to love them, run until you cant see them again.

[@adedayoadedokun6713]

Lol

[@99lanterns]

Who does the art for your channel? it is TOP notch. I would love to see more things they have drawn/created!

[@jessnalulila5709]

The artist is named in the description

[@99lanterns]

@jessicasousa5709 I have since found them, but thank you for your reply.

[@arvinroidoatienza7082]

I think you should have also done Glaucus' origin. He was a human who was changed to a merman for a reason. Also would love to see the origin of Adonis' mom

[@milutinstankovic4638]

Circe is one of the main characters in the webtoon called "Hooked on Chthonics"

[@immystery3946]

I love that webtoon

[@milutinstankovic4638]

@@immystery3946 Really?

[@immystery3946]

@@milutinstankovic4638 yeah are you up to date on it cuz I love that Nyx told her

[@milutinstankovic4638]

@@immystery3946 Can't wait to see Circe confronting Charon for telling her that he's wearing a mask

[@immystery3946]

@@milutinstankovic4638 Right, I need an update

[@francisharkins]

Just ao people know, just like Medusa, Syclla has many many different interpretations/versions of her tale. The most well known one is the version thats told by sailors more to warn of the dangers of the Strait. Since the danger of Syclla was more about the crags and rocky shoreline seen as a superstitious monster that devoured sailors when it was more the fact rocks would tear apart the hull of ships and men would be thrown overboard in the rough waters, and the terrible whirlpools in the deeper waters of the Strait which were said to be Charybdis a massive sea monster who's maw was actually what created the whirlpools. Pronunciation also changes to. Both "Sigh-la" and "Sil-ah" are proper Pronunciations, but obviously change depending on the interpretation and version of the tales.

[@Panzer_the_Merganser]

There's an excellent novel about Circe ('Circe' by Madeline Miller) that includes this tale. Fantastic read.

[@333angeleyes]

This had NOTHING to do with love! He didn't respect her feelings just as the sorceress didn't respect his... His true colors were exposed twice! Once when he didn't see the irony of the sorceress trying to persuade him even after he told her no and, second when she turned into a monster he didn't accept accountability nor, did try to help her... it was all about her looks and his lust.

[@16shogunelitegreen]

Sure, blame the male 🙄😒

[@Shidyk]

Never spurn a well known witch. It never ends well

[@ecurewitz]

Except Scylla was innocent

[@Shidyk]

@@ecurewitz in general, witches don't really care about that.

[@kriegermaria9923]

​​@@ecurewitzcirce is spiteful line hera never liked them i like leto ,nyx,Iris,metis,rhea,some others

[@kriegermaria9923]

​@@Shidyki mean circe wanted Odysseus to stay despite him having a wife son at home

[@kriegermaria9923]

​@@Shidykcirce transform man into animal so they dont leave the husband once they drink eat from her Island but she was interested in Odysseus posidion and Athena Made a bet if he aprrove home or not of his journey

[@Konpekikaminari]

2 more morals you can draw from this story: -if a Greek deity does a 180° and agrees to help you, it's actually secretly a 360° -DO NOT, under any circumstances, drink a mysterious potion offered by the person you've only met twice in your life & all they did was flirt with you

[@nicksmith8749]

Love your mythology videos. Is there anymore Norse mythology coming at all?

[@SirsasthNigam.]

didn't mermen in greek has greenish skin, scales and gills ?

[@KpopGenshinaddicted]

Yes they did

[@Zbezt]

Green scales is just a metaphor for envy and bias towards an object of admiration

[@mistressofthedark1476]

When she was beautiful he wanted her, but as soon as she wasn't, he ghosted her. What a pos.

[@16shogunelitegreen]

She was POS when she rejected him because of how HE looked

[@milutinstankovic4638]

Better curse story than Medusa

[@kriegermaria9923]

Zeus through had mercy pity care even at woman who were cursed into Monsters HE aswell toll care of his children or grandchildren hera was not happy about it through so his affairs she was jelous shes his 7 wife his First was metis Athenas mother

[@Raximus3000]

Same author.

[@PerfectlyImperfect93]

Reminds me of Hera punishing the women Zeus sleeps with 😬

[@Raximus3000]

Like who?

[@sethmiles9436]

​@Raximus3000 Io, a women that Zeus forced himself upon and then turned into a cow to try and cover up what he did from Hera. Hera then kept the cow as a pet for a time, before she was set free. Then Hera set the furies after her. Don't fully remember how that particular story ends. But always remember most greek myths have multiple tellings.

[@Raximus3000]

@@sethmiles9436 She ended up marrying a king.

[@datastorm75]

"He then went to talk to Circie." The people who know, "Aw heck, here we go again."

[@yauchuenchan2146]

This story teaches us a lesson : Don't drink anything strange especially in the bars

[@geffeternal741]

The version i read, Glaucus was indeed a mortal fisherman. One day, he saw Scylla taking a bath in her pool and he fell in love with her but she won't even look twice to a mortal man. The Oceanids heard of his woe and turned him into one of them. As the tale goes, the waters of a hundred rivers were poured onto him and his legs was transformed to a long beautiful tail and his hair turned green. He went back to Scylla but the nymph still rejected his love. Heartbroken, he swam away till he rested at Circe's island where the enchantress saw him. She fell for him and offered her love but he is too heartbroken to even respond to it. Angrily, Circe created a potion which she poured in the pool just before Scylla was about to take her morning bath. The rest of the story, we know. 🤔 In this version Glaucus didn't know Scylla's fate or Circe's hand in it. 😪

[@Tribalfan88x]

"So, kids, that was the story of Glaucus und Scylla. What did we learn today?" "If someone comes and wants to clap you, you don't say 'No'." Oh, Ancient Greece.....

[@susansusan6612]

The more I hear about these deities, the more I wonder why people worshipped them…..

[@Initiallyleo]

I feel like it was less about love and respect and more about “Let’s do this so they don’t smite us all.”

[@kriegermaria9923]

Not all did only the greek agypt had other deities who dont interfered with human through same hindu celtic had odin proto germanic gods had tyr etc hebrew had our god Muslim our god Allah only diffrent language

[@KpopGenshinaddicted]

If you want a good books to read Madeline Miller’s Circe

[@abc.animal5143]

I thought Scylla was just born a monster, to Phorcys and Keto. I feel like the Greek stories always try to add depth to monster characters like Medusa and Scylla

[@hyugalubbok7770]

In the original story (and Drawing on pythos jars) her lower body turn into long snake like fish tail, and from her hips grow heads of hounds (remind typhon and kampe got similiar feature - heads of many wild beasts on their sides)

[@frostdragonking5336]

wait, wasn't it poseidon who turned her into a monster? or is it just one of those multiple characters in the same story replacing each other depending on the telling?

[@williswameyo5737]

Lesson: Don't force yourself on someone who doesn't love you by heart

[@axelrenesuzuki9334]

wow that's new interesting history Glaucus and Scylla - Greek Mythology (mermaids - and creature huge monster) that's call the name queen Furi us but i never see that give poison transformation like this Monster that think you know wow but's it interesting and absolutely i love your history brother father.

[@-RONNIE]

Thanks for the video

[@diamondtiara84]

I had never heard that story before; it was sad.

[@stephenwhitacre5208]

This is why people should be careful of those they reject. It also shows how innocenr peoole can suffer horribly from other peoples actions. Poor scylla.

[@gaigeschaal9070]

The most important lesson I took from this is how to correctly pronounce Scylla and Charybdis. Thank you.

[@knaveofchalices]

Bruh imagine thinking that cthulian horrors beyond recognition aren’t hot.

[@ifratelliranma7384]

Glauco non poteva sapere l’invidia della strega 🧙🏻‍♀️ verso la ninfa.

[@shadotarot]

Yes, there's a reason Circe is the bad guy in most stories

[@vanlau546]

Muy buena reflexión sobre los amores no correspondidos

[@glowworm2]

Usually the version I've heard was that Scylla was still human, but from the waist down, she had dog heads.

[@lenart5417]

If you are asking me,this is another story what sais" Gods and sorcerers in those time escaped without be punished"

[@Victoriaa.549]

thanks this really helped me with my homework

[@user-mx4is4fx3c]

Well at least she had a good ending. Heracles slayed her monster form and then her father used torches to purify her body, returning her to life.

[@yamataichul]

I hope this is true, I don't remember the Olympian legends as well as when I was a child but your comment seems legit 😢

[@clarkparker4860]

I got dumped today, but I'll never be that much of an asshole. 😅

[@BB.-.]

Ok

[@rachelwinters3708]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[@EclipsaRosa]

Most monsters were just victims of the male gaze in these stories. It's almost like the moral is to never tell men 'no.' Else, something bad will happen. Look at Medusa

[@EclipsaRosa]

@ISLAMMEHMEDOV no men.

[@EclipsaRosa]

@ISLAMMEHMEDOV good luck men 🧔🏼‍♂️🪓👩🏻

[@EclipsaRosa]

@ISLAMMEHMEDOV ... maybe men 😒

[@codyperrin2297]

Hey if you haven't yet can you do a video on charybdis, the sea monster that summons whirlpools and eats ships

[@TKCNG64_CC]

That would be cool fun fact Charybdis was turned into a monster by Zeus for stealing Hercule’s cattle

[@codyperrin2297]

@@TKCNG64_CC I don't think I've heard that myth. I heard she was some sea nymph, the daughter of Poseidon and Gaia, and she used her influence over the sea to cause floods and sinks several islands. And that was why Zeus punished her and turned her into a monster because sinking antics were making the ocean too big, greatly enhancing Poseidon's domain and upsetting the delicate power balance of the gods

[@TKCNG64_CC]

@@codyperrin2297 oh I never knew that version thank you for informing me

[@sandeepdavid846]

1:22 - that pic is scary af

[@adedayoadedokun6713]

That Circe is evil she turned Odysseus men to pigs it's her way

[@cassandrabelyeu2419]

Ancient Greek men were terrifying.

[@shaikhaalsaedi965]

I heard that circe her self took revenge on the poor women when was raking path in the sea because a king loved and reject circe also I heard that circe took revenge on someone who reject her magical service 🤔

[@DrBolt-hw6hy]

To think Godzilla King of the Monsters took Scylla and changed her from a 6 headed kraken to a giant Cthulu-looking spider

[@joelbry2103]

Circe’s mother is a sea nymph & father is Helios (the sunk). Oceanus & Tethys are her maternal grandparents. It is absurd to think that there is anything in the sea Circe wouldn’t have ever seen.

[@LacertaZilla2024]

Oh man I heard that Scylla was turned into a monster by Circe but I didn’t learn the whole story

[@avra3041]

that is true! this video is entirely wrong sadly

[@mamc1986]

Didn’t Circe pour the potion into the area where Scylla used to bathe? That’s what I heard, then when she started bathing there, she was confused when she started transforming.

[@avra3041]

@@mamc1986 yes exactly.... and Circe was spiteful for all the right reasons

[@marijavicic3010]

@@avra3041 No, she wasn't. There was no reason to hurt Scylla.

[@TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz]

Ah yes, Circe you discount Jessica Rabbit

[@pisces2569]

Glaucus was so close to self awareness

[@chrisedwards3214]

Zeus , Poseidon or Apollo would have just taken the p

[@midnightcoffee6463]

Pretty cool, but one thing: "Scylla" is pronounced "Skill-ah" and "Charybdis" is pronounced "Kah-rib-diss" - not "Shar-dees"

[@ShadowFang123]

Oh this is where the idea of mermaid kelp probably comes from in the sims...

[@OscarSchneegans]

What? This isn't a warning about taking weird treats from strangers you don't trust?

[@raspyraspberries]

Circe warned him when she said he would be granted all the love he deserved, the love of a monster worthy of a man so superficial, too bad it affected the nymph as well.

[@blakerenimu9033]

And then she formed a band with her siren freinds and lived happily ever after

[@DontCallMePetar]

This is not the legend. Circe loved Glaukus whom she made into a sea God from mortal, cause he was miserable. After that he became obsessed with other nymphs and cared no more for Circe. Scylla was a typical ‘mean girl’ who bullied Circe throughout her childhood and when Circe found out Glaukus wanted to marry this mean nymph, she turned her into a monster. The story is how Scylla was on the inside the monster she turned into later. Idk where do you guys get this story about ‘poor Scylla’ anyway…

[@AhmedBalahim]

I'm sorry but I can't find any records that said that where is your source?

[@carolrosecarlson5585]

Pronounciation!!!: "Silla" "Karribdus" This is the origin of the saying, "Between a rock & a hard place," it was said, "caught betweenScylla & Charybdis." This is what ancient Greeks called the Staight of Gibraltar.

[@kevinlkoehler]

They were on Sicily like the other Homeric monsters

[@HuskyMuskyr168]

Pobre Scila 😢

[@richardlevy1459]

This version of the story I think is from Ovids metamorphosis

[@blast3608]

2:29! A warning to all.

[@rexise1989]

Besides rejection theres also don't take drinks from strangers lol

[@Artisan1979]

Superficial punk

[@michaelroque2662]

Moral of the story is No means No, and don’t drink weird liquids from Strange Mermen.

[@gendoruwo6322]

just because someone can help you, does not mean that someone will help you.

[@oishicurrypuffus]

brace yourselves boys for the incoming question from your partner "would you still love me if I was a monster squid??"

[@mendezfocus]

Wow, it's staying where the work that I heard this before.Oh I know medusa medusa had the same fate or almost the same fate

[@kraknjaws3882]

It's funny, so many curses are things I wish happened to me. I've wanted tentacles since the day I learned what they are but I'd be happy as Glaucus too

[@smiththeinspiringanimator7042]

Awesome and cool! ^_^

[@lindaliriel]

lezione: se una ti dice di no, lasciala stare; quello che otterresti, ignorando il rifiuto, non avrebbe posto per l'amore.

[@rolandnyc4938]

My profile picture is the reverse of my ancient Greek coin with Scylla minted in 300 BC. Very rare

[@charliemcternan8190]

Thai will be fun is this the story of the octopus

[@vr4892]

Starting to notice a theme here regarding women and the mistreatment of them in this mythos

[@Adamguy2003]

I thought Scylla's backstory was that Poseidon had an affair with her and his wife was so furious to learn this that she declared "I will turn her into the most hideous female any man ever fled from!" Thinga went from there.

[@allye4228]

I think that’s Medusa

[@RAINaBORIGINALS]

When u gone do charydis back story , like u did this 1 of scylla , how she is poseidon and scylla.

[@lassesgamekanaal]

Let me guess... Ovid got his hands on another story?

[@JOTUNN_101]

In another story, Scylla was actually born as a monster.

[@user-ku6xd1bj4e]

its funny though. he had only love for her, but when she became a monster his love faded..

[@williamhawkins3810]

Is this in french or am i hallucinating 😭

[@Goodiesfanful]

Glaucus should have appealed to Aphrodite, the goddess of love.

[@AhmedBalahim]

She was probably the one who made Scylla not in love with glaucus because she's the goddess of love

[@JustinKase1969]

Never love, just lust on his part.

[@barbiquearea]

So this was the prequel to the Odyssey.