i found the stupidest hotd article so far

what a bunch of yahoos :^)

[@glimbus]

i was a bit unclear on the superman thing. i've never been much of a comics guy so of course people are gonna know more than me, and this is just my relatively uninformed position. to be clearer, the superman i dislike is the invulnerable "nothing can go wrong" superman from the golden age (to my understanding). the superman i like is the one from stories that examine the ramifications of an all-powerful being's existence. in total though i mostly don't care either way, i always thought she-hulk was cooler

[@francisabellana445]

They are literally in the same timeline people are stupid

[@SuperCrazy902]

Superman Vs The Elite sounds right up your alley, though I will advocate a bit for my big blue boyscout. I find many stories where he is nearly invulnerable and able to solve all of his problems easily intriguing because the effect he has on others. Its the heroism. He is the bar everyone strives to meet, and even he isn't always perfect. With great power comes great responsibility, and he can be interesting regardless of whether or not he lives up to said responsibility.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

I'm sorry about she hulk

[@viviandarkbloom1447]

*Umberto Eco wanted me to tell you that he liked this comment on Superman

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

There’s a lot of different ways to do Superman. My personal favorites are the ones that make clear his humanity. Because despite being an alien from Krypton with the powers of a god… at the end of the day, all Superman is is a farm boy from Kansas who wants to help people out because it’s right. Even if he didn’t have powers he’d still be out there making a difference. Superman is just one of the ways he decided to help people. I think Superman works best when it’s clear that at the end of the day he isn’t some monolith, but just a good man doing his best. And sometimes the problem isn’t something that the Man of Steel can solve with powers, but something Clark Kent can with his good heart and willingness to understand.

[@akmonra]

I always hate it when shows depict nuanced, complex, and flawed characters. I can never really connect with them, because I'm perfect.

[@boxedlife789]

oh my gosh no I can't make a buzzfeed personality quiz on these characters based on my order from starbucks jiminy crickets no

[@mdhasan-bt9mb]

That's your problem characters who are not complex & only good & evil feels boring,.....

[@omnissiah7859]

@@mdhasan-bt9mb its a joke dude lmao

[@borisdorofeev5602]

Yea all my decisions are purely evil so the only character I can connect with is Euron. If Daemon doesn't eat a baby or something then this show sucks.

[@sihollett]

@@boxedlife789 And if you are writing articles for yahoo entertainment, you are definitely making those buzzfeed quiz types of articles as well. Checks out as a valid, but niche, criticism!

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

"This Westeros is a place mostly of peace..." I think I just experienced how people who had read the books before the show came out must have felt.

[@gabrielemblem605]

Welcome to the club friend!

[@gothqueen5721]

"Well yes, that's the point, Rhaenys even comes right out and emphasizes it in the dialogue."

[@1911Zoey]

Peaceful and not violent raging fires. Uh oh... they tryna be the medieval/magical equivalent of CNN

[@c-eb3634]

@@gabrielemblem605 uiu

[@c-eb3634]

@@gabrielemblem605 8i99

[@FrakkinToasterLuvva]

"Poor characterization is a prpblem. None of these characters are purely good or evil" is the stupiest thing ever written in a review. But the sentence "Before Game of Thrones got bad, it was good" deserves to win the author a special writing award.

[@7Nebulae7]

This is our world today. Everything is black and white. Good and evil. No room for grey areas or people. Makes me so sad.

[@shakira4223]

"people die when they are killed"

[@RainWelsh]

It’s mind-blowingly stupid, that’s some serious small child bullshit. “I can’t tell who’s a goodie or a baddie and that makes me angry”, followed directly by saying Daemon is “mostly evil” or whatever? Infantile. Honestly, even looking at things in terms of “good vs evil” in anything other than children’s fiction is stupid, in my opinion. Characters are far more interesting when they’re complex, rather than “incorruptible pure pureness” and “constantly eating babies evil”. I bet the person who wrote this ‘review’ is the type to shriek “but they’re literally a murderer?!” at people who say a morally ambiguous character is their favourite.

[@LordVader1094]

@@RainWelsh Characters can be good or evil while still being complex, dude. Even incorruptible pure pureness and constantly eating babies evil is fun when done right. Just look at LotR, where there is clear good and evil but still a ton of complexity.

[@isiaharellano3789]

@@LordVader1094 How's RoP doing tho? It really depends on the execution

[@stardust3176]

“The peace is so boring” meanwhile there’s a guy crucifying people for crab food

[@stefanfilipovits21]

Did this writer really say the incest was fan-service? 😕

[@rev0568]

Lmfao when there's so many people turned off from these shows BECAUSE of the incest

[@strawbawrri249]

I guess maybe for some people from a certain US state…. Cough- Alabama -cough

[@thewingedserpent5823]

They want to capture the anime Fandom.

[@viderevero1338]

Does that mean they’re into it? 🤔

[@rezin7298]

@@strawbawrri249 his inspirations for the incest in the books come from European history... weird how the incest jokes never get put on them....

[@ellaphx]

I *love* that they've used more antiquated language, it was one of my biggest pet peeves about later seasons of GoT, that they just dropped that and everyone started just talking the way you might expect to hear someone talking today in our world. It really took me out of the fantasy.

[@7Nebulae7]

Ofc this writer would harp about the language. She clearly doesn't care about the fantasy elements, and the atiquated language can be considered a part of that. Personally I like it very much as well, and I don't understand people who watch medieval fantasy and then complain when it is exactly that - medieval fantasy.

[@Magicalnora]

I bet you the author only started to watch from season 7 and watched all of season 8 from a pub with 70 other soccer moms and fantasy football players 😂

[@darknight991]

All other seasons: “Knock! Draw! Loose!” 7&8: “FIRE!” “Where?!” “What?” “Where’s the fire you’re talking about? I don’t see it” “No! Fire your bow!” “My mum gave me this, why the would I burn it? You burn your bow if you want kindling” “FIRE AN ARROW FROM THAT BOW” “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT”

[@verifiednobody1107]

@@darknight991 I reread Thrones recently. I immediately noticed when Cat used the word "fire" in reference to shooting arrows. An admittedly short Google search did not provide me with any conclusive results on whether this was an acceptable term in medieval times. I'm thinking it could've been adopted as a general term since arrows on fire were a thing. Anyway, I thought I'd share my inconclusive results with you.

[@Mike-os3pt]

BAD PUSSY

[@merkeljohn]

“… slowly failing over the generations…” The author so clearly wanted to make the “fading out” point about the Westeros world (which doesn’t work with the rest of their article, anyway) and tried to shoe-horn this in as a plot descriptor for parallel. THIS SHOW IS LITERALLY ABOUT HOW THEY DIDN’T SLOWLY FADE! It’s literally just about how their magnificent control and dragon-wielding came to a head and burst in a spectacular explosion of hate and fire and blood. It’s the literal opposite of slowly fading.

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

Exactly! The Dance of the Dragons is House Targaryen getting absolutely crippled when compared to its previous power and then hobbling along at a mostly stable, if somewhat humbled level for another 150 years. Remember, the huge war against Dorne and its eventual peaceful merge with the realm comes *after* this. And all the Blackfyre Rebellions except the first one get crushed pretty efficiently. It's only really the burning of Summerhall killing almost the entire royal family that weakens the dynasty enough to be overthrown. Even then, if Aerys hadn't gone insane there is no indication the dynasty wouldn't have carried on. Thats definitely not "fading". I really like this. A lot of people fall for this narrative of the "Great Decline" for empires in real history, as if a state peaks and then just enters an inevitable slow decline, never succeeding at anything ever again. Which is of course nonesense, things are far more dynamic than that. So it's cool that George established a far more realistic developement for a fictional royal dynasty (even if the Targs are literally the only realistic House in ASOIAF, with every other family having existed and ruled more or less the same territory for milennia).

[@oglocop4693]

"slowly fall", "violently implode", potato, potato (the two potatoes are pronounced differently, I started writing the comment and then realized that I can't write it)

[@gokbay3057]

@@sherlocksmuuug6692 Even Targs have the issue of Cadets suddenly disappearing. Lannisters and Tyrells seem to be most realistic when it comes to the number of current people in the dynasty.

[@Maxisamo1]

@@sherlocksmuuug6692 Exactly, the Starks wouldn't have even joined Robert's Rebellion if Ned's father and older brother weren't brutally murdered in the throne room after they simply went there to calmly talk Aerys down from escalating

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

@@Maxisamo1 To be fair, Brandon rode up to King's Landing screaming that he was gonna kill Rhaegar. Even a sane Aerys would have probably had him arrested for that on principle...but he definitely wouldn't have ordered Lord Rickard to come down to the capital to explain himself and then cooked him in his armour for laughs. A sane Aerys would have probably concluded that things had gone way off the rails, then ordered someone to find Rhaegar and tell him to cough up the Stark girl before people got killed.

[@ClaireYunFarronXIII]

Some of these articles are most definitely written by the same people who praised _Game of Thrones_ season five and six, when the show was majorly declining in quality. They are just getting on the long-dormant _Game of Thrones_ hate train like they did with the love train. I'm not saying they aren't allowed to dislike this show, but their reasoning shouldn't be dumb, or non-existent like it is in this particular article. It's like they were hoping we wouldn't like _House of the Dragon_ very much, so they wrote their "reviews" accordingly.

[@shannond7437]

I literally lol’d as I only read your first sentence & started to type - These people are still riding the GOT hate clickbait train! Your exact response as well!

[@frankvandorp2059]

There has been a lot of talk already about this show running concurrently with Rings of Power and how there probably is going to be rivalry. And with all the professional entertainment journalists being mindlessly and uncritically positive of Rings of Power despite major flaws that are already apparent from the teasers and trailers alone, I won't be surprised if these same shills are going to attack House of the Dragon simply to make the team they decided to support look better by contrast.

[@7Nebulae7]

@@frankvandorp2059 Well, the person who wrote this article also wrote about Rings of power and guess what- surprise surprise, it was a much more positive take than she had with this HotD article...

[@TheWaross]

I'm increasingly convinced many of those articles are written by AI and roughly edited by humans after to shit as many articles as possible.

[@isiaharellano3789]

@@7Nebulae7 well some of them are changing their tune now. Took them long enough to realize that RoP is only visually appealing but bare bones in terms of quality of writing.

[@gokbay3057]

"This reflects real life" "We can't relate to them" Are you... Not people or something? Like, an alien maybe?

[@isiaharellano3789]

Maybe they're dragons and they got offended lol

[@oliverolson6578]

Ah yes, Game of Thrones, the show where our favorite characters easily fit into the boxes of “good” and “evil”.

[@anakinthemannequin69]

I know. Did this person just like watch Season 8 and think that was all Game of Thrones was (and even then-I wouldn't call the characters morally black and white).

[@Rannos22]

Journalism now is indistinguishable from some dudes blog

[@ILikedGooglePlus]

That's what review critics have always been

[@AlbertAlbertB.]

'Journalism' has to mean American journalism, because there is a nihil chance you mean journalism from Europe, let alone journalism from Asia.

[@SoulOnIce1983]

So accurate

[@thurielangel3239]

Jup. Except that any 17 year old Tumblr girl with a genuine interest in screenwriting and television could come up with a review 10 times better than this. So it’s more like journalism is on the same level with the very lowest range of online blogs.

[@Tyler_W]

This is a review, which is just another form of editorial, so as whack as this review is, this is a weird example to use to complain about journalism.

[@qixec]

this person definitely secretly liked season 8 and thought euron was funny

[@roronoalaw7772]

Euron was ironically funny

[@TD-lh9ph]

Euron was cringy and not at all how he was written in the books

[@BertockLeg]

@@TD-lh9ph well, yes, but had you considered that "we don't have time for any of this!"?

[@TD-lh9ph]

@@BertockLeg “do you want more time you can have it” -HBO

[@stefanfilipovits21]

That Jon/Arya hookup fanfic you read was easier to listen to than this article .

[@jessjess23brooks89]

I didn't know that was a thing. Why is that a thing?

[@JackHGUK]

@@jessjess23brooks89 Tumblr broke a generation of kids who were bullied at school.

[@JoelJohnson24]

Dafuq did I just read? Jon & Arya? Fuck, I can't get that image out of my head! Goddamn it.

[@jessjess23brooks89]

@@JackHGUK 🤣 oh god. Tumblr was wild.

[@7thZeppelin]

@@jessjess23brooks89 You're not gonna like this and neither do I... Apparently jon and arya having a... Thing... was in the original very rough draft of the first book by GRRM himself

[@sirkarl0s593]

This first ep was better than anything in season 8

[@glimbus]

and season 7 (and season 6)

[@jester7786]

@@glimbus and season 5?

[@SoulOnIce1983]

I wouldnt go that far. "A Knight Of The Seven Kingdoms" was a classic episode. Due to it being written by one of the best writers, not D & D. The premier was great though and did what it needed to do to set up the series.

[@krissuyx]

@@SoulOnIce1983 It was competent. I wouldn't call it "classic". It was a good set up... for the most disappointing battle and plot conclusion in the series.

[@unc54]

@@SoulOnIce1983 It was the only decent episode of Season 8 but it wasn't exactly a great episode. We got some nice character interactions and the knighting of Brienne was easily the best scene of Season 8 but the plot is completely stagnant and it's not like the conversations are great. It's largely rehashing dialogue from when the show was better, which seemed to be a trend in later seasons and any time we had the potential for new interesting dialogue like when Tyrion sits with Bran or Jon talks with Dany, we don't actually see it through. Also, the whole premise of the episode was that a good bunch of them could die the next episode so we should enjoy them while we can. And then not that many people died and the ones who died weren't exactly important anymore.

[@babbies321]

The phrase 'phenomena are singular' physically hurts me

[@FishLunchy]

Chatgpt wrote this istg

[@joeyjerry1586]

The most frustrating thing about these articles honestly is how they’re comparing one episode (well six I guess for these people) of HOTD to 73 freaking episodes of GoT. It’s such an unfair comparison especially since a lot of people who didn’t read the books before consider Ned’s death scene in episode 9 to be the turning point for the show and when they got fully hooked

[@mossy642]

This reminds me of the article saying that Terry Pratchett’s Fantasy literature was overrated, and in the first line the writer admitted to not having read any of his books.

[@xenopug6390]

Seconded, that sounds like a ride

[@mossy642]

‘It does not matter to me if Terry Pratchett’s final novel is a worthy epitaph or not, or if he wanted it to be pulped by a steamroller. I have never read a single one of his books and I never plan to. Life’s too short.’

[@Skystrid3r]

What was the argument they made? That premise alone sounds atrocious.

[@neuralmute]

@@mossy642 Wow, speaking as a longtime Pratchett fan, that shit's hilarious!

[@BlackfyreHD]

“Ugh! I can’t believe this one episode wasn’t better than all of game of thrones! This show is terrible!” - some ‘journalists’

[@niksterkai4303]

Let’s see how the critic reacts to Aemond’s and Vhagar’s War Crime Boogaloo.

[@angelalovell5669]

Current theories are; 1. That reviewers are purposefully riding on the coattails of GoT disappointment trauma, using bad hot takes as click bait. 2. Some reviewers have been encouraged in some way to give bad hot takes (lol negative reviews) to drum up controversy (lol interest). 3. They're genuinely still personally traumatised from GoT and it's affecting their professional judgement. They're still wrong, either way. Coming at it from an angle with which I do not identify. But the credits should have been overlaid with Blood of the Dragon, not the GoT theme (check it out, so much better for so many reasons).

[@friday6448]

No the worst one I saw was claiming that episode 2 "killed the hype", and instead of talking about the characters, drama, acting, story, pacing, or anything, it exclusively critized to for a relative lack of shock value when compared to GoT, or that there haven't been enough dragons burning things yet. So presumably it was written by a 12 year old. I mean I like dragons burning shit as much as anyone else, but I atleast have the developed critical thinking skills to be engaged with the characters, story and drama that makes the inevitable dragons-burning-shit scenes matter.

[@7Nebulae7]

Makes you sad, really, doesn't it. The fact that so many adult humans have no taste nor any understanding for things that build up slowly. I bet those kind of people liked the last few seasons of GoT for it's instant gratifications and shock value plot points, not forgetting subverted expectations.

[@OneOnOne1162]

This person speaks in terms of "we" constantly but it has been thoroughly established that people CAN in fact empathise with morally grey, or even morally black, characters. "Breaking Bad" with Walter White and "The Sopranos" with Tony Soprano being two examples of very much beloved protagonists who are quite dark. Jaime Lannister is one of the more popular characters in the "A Song of Ice & Fire" fandom and he's extremely morally grey. Trying to murder a child and killing his king, but doing it to try and protect his lover and to save half a million people. Not exactly purely morally good actions and yet people empathise with him. Are there people who find it difficult to empathise with darker characters? Anecdotally I would say "yes, there are." But not all people are the same and plenty of people do not have this problem. So rather than talking in terms of "we" the person writing this article should've been honest and just said "I personally." So much of this article is fluff as well. Like just talking about "it has stilted plotting" is meaningless if you don't explain what you mean with that.

[@Nosliw837]

I was rewatching The Wire and find myself saying "Why in the world does this show make me feel bad and have empathy for Weebay." The answer is kind of simple: Even though the character is a mass murderer, he's still a person with thoughts, drives, desires, and feelings. Making characters black and white is unrealistic and dull. Most everyone is conflicted on some level and having those qualities in characters make them familiar to us and allowing ourselves to invest in them and the story. Pretty sure most people that come up with these articles are just trying to pad their 5-7 paragraph essay assignment and it reads like a 7th grade, poor take, opinion piece on The Great Gatsby. Ultimate Zzz

[@diegoborges1348]

Why don't they get an actual fan of ASOIAF to write some articles? I swear to God, every time I read one of these it feels like the author doesn't give two shits about the world and is just doing their "boring" job

[@sackajules]

"This westeros is a place mostly of peace" HAHAHAHAHA

[@liamcallahan9693]

These are some of the most detailed and thoughtful comments in a youtube video I've seen in a long time, but I can't contribute because I'm not over the fact that you can pronounce ASOIAF as "Uh-swaif"

[@Mofi357]

Thats the sound I make when i get my peepee stuck in my zipper

[@gayvinmcginnes2508]

This kind of reaction is hilarious to me. I too love the ASOIAF universe, probably far more than any of these article writers. I literally went to sleep listening to the audiobooks for the last four years. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of HOTD. It drew me in, even though I know the book-canon story pretty damn well. I still can't wait until Sunday, so I can see how the story unfolds on screen. It's just crazy to me how people characterize this story based on one episode that's primarily designed to introduce unfamiliar viewers to the characters.

[@TheNewPrometheus]

i also listen to ASOIAF nightly when im going to sleep as well, its the best. Westeros (and Roy Dotrice) is so comforting for some reason. Im working on audiobook recordings with sounds and music. peep m,y profile for the first two chapter of AGoT

[@Cussy69_420]

I wrote the same on your other thing you posted... These articles are exactly the same here in Germany! Almost as if they're created by AI and then send around the globe. It's unbelievable, they all write the same stuff, almost word for word

[@nessielou459]

The one episode we have of HOTD is more compelling than I could have expected given the extremely limited source material compared to Game of Thrones. Fair play to all involved and a solid start to the series. In my humble option, 7/10 - would recommend.

[@anotherhappylanding4746]

I'd say an 8

[@s8theninjawarrior916]

8 at very least...

[@blondymonk1535]

8 at least... It was very well made... But, as with every show or movie, the CGI is subpar... CGI really had taken a downfall over the last decade.

[@epicLEKLE]

More like a 9 or 10/10. What more can you ask for? You people are never happy

[@cosmiccomedy7394]

@@blondymonk1535 what CGI specifically was subpar to you? I thought it looked great. The only thing that looked even a little wonky to me was the fire at the funeral. You say all shows and movies have subpar CGI which would make them all on par with each other so perhaps your expectations are just too high.

[@SmokeyEdits]

i actually find myself really charmed by the jokes in """DRAGON""" i guess we're fuckin calling it. But no seriously, some of the jokes in that first episode made me laugh. "i'm quite comfortable in this position" 10/10

[@SmokeyEdits]

oh god on a rewatch i totally missed the best joke. "the king's cupbearer shan't be late, leaves the council wanting for cups" or something like that. fucking hysterical. i'm excited to see where this show goes. oh and the bard in episode 3. that always bugged me about GoT, you never really saw many bards or anything. you would sometimes see people singing like that cameo from the singer that people cared about for 3 months, but you never really saw them at these grand parties and such.

[@onelusciouslad7841]

@@SmokeyEdits "The signer that people cared about for 3 months" Um... what planet do you live on?

[@SmokeyEdits]

@@onelusciouslad7841 hell if i know, it's awful dusty here though. i think his name was Edward She-Ra or something? you intraplanetary folks confuse me with your names. he was a singer though, not a signer. don't know any famous signers, unless you want to talk about that signer at that metal concert. was it slipknot? i don't remember. she seemed cool though.

[@cristela4034]

For now, House of the Dragon feels like the first seasons Of Game of Thrones, so if it keeps like that it has the potential to be really good. Let's just hope the writers aren't offered another gig and decide to rush the ending. Game of Thrones was good in the beginning, but after that ending, the series are no longer a masterpiece.

[@awedsilent943]

“We can’t sympathize or connect…with real life.”

[@nkkenlken3220]

I feel like it has becomed a legit business now on the internet to just shit on any new show/movie no matter if its bad, mid or actually good. People just gets so many views on yt for simply talking shit about anything new in Hollywood, it dosent matter if the shit talk is valid or not they just gets tons of views from it. Just look at critical drinker for example, his entire channel is made to diss any big movie or show he finds, and he also makes a few videos of movies he actually likes. You can see a clear difference between his view count on a video were he talks shit on a movie and a video were he recommends a movie. Like what happend to film review channels? Have they all just to decide to hate any new movie?

[@Galvatronover]

Drinker doesn’t go out of his way to hate movies he just isn’t a fan of most current day movies or superhero movies

[@marcostargaryen4181]

This writer favorite house is definitely the starks 🤣🤣🤣

[@cubablue602]

People seem to forget how indifferently the pilot of GOT was received by audiences and critics alike. A big MEH across the board. Now some halfwit (no doubt one of those criticising the GOT pilot) is making profound declarations after ONE episode of a series which will run for probably 4 seasons. The pilot of HOD has been universally praised with a few outliers with their own butthurt axe to grind. It's the biggest ever viewed pilot on HBO, astonishing figures across the globe. That's REALLY going to make them fume.

[@reddest-x]

Hey hey hey I used to feel exactly the same about Superman. Then I actually read comics and watched shows like Superman & Lois and some of the animated movies. And um. It's not true, like I was so wrong. Superman stories can be good it's just the modern Superman movies suuuuuuuuuuck and I'm edgy so I thought Superman was too good and pure to be interesting. Open your heart to Superman pls.

[@ReignofIndepence]

How can you be a superman fan and say man of steel sucks? Btw goku owns

[@BattyButtercup]

The latest Superman films fail to note that the dude is Clark Kent before he is "Superman". Clark Kent wants a better world for everyone, idealist that he is, but he learned the hard way that all his powers combined can't defeat drought nor generational poverty. That's why Clark became a journalist. (...an actual journalist, not these poor suckers stuck writing clickbait "critiques" on episodes they barely paid attention to)

[@muhammadeisa1459]

@@ReignofIndepence Man Of Steel sucks. Anyone with a shred of knowledge about Superman or a history with reading Superman comics will concur. It sucks as a film and sucks as a Superman film.

[@reddest-x]

Henry Cavill did fine, the writing just sucks.

[@roostewrum]

Wow.... They are complaining about "mine own"??? One of my biggest problems with GoT S5-S8 was how the language of the character changed from Westerosi Common Tongue to modern day (heavily US influenced) English. In GoT, when was the last time a character said "Seven Hells", for example?

[@Buttcakes15]

No I think the article by The Atlantic titled “The Glaring Flaw at the Heart of House of the Dragon” is the cringiest one I’ve seen so far.

[@nailati]

Yep-it was clearly written by someone completely unfamiliar with, say, the Hapsburgs, or Cleopatra's lineage

[@rowan3682]

I just read it and wow. Six paragraphs to set up a thesis about incest being toxic to family dynamics, only to end abruptly saying nothing but "incest is gross and makes viewers uncomfortable therefore HotD bad". And the author was a Pulitzer Prize finalist. What a joke.

[@Buttcakes15]

@@rowan3682 I know dude. So dumb. I couldn’t help but e-mail her to say how wildly stupid her article was lol

[@RobHel69_420]

well it is the fuckin atlantic, so...

[@floraposteschild4184]

When someone says they dislike a film because "there is nobody to sympathize with", i.e. there are no obvious goodies or baddies, that's my signal to tune out. To me, a GRRM newby, HOTD is much more my kind of thing than the world-spanning blah blah blah of GoT.

[@mrmcawesome9746]

Disagree on the Superman take Glimbus. He's only boring when handled by a bad writer whose entire repertoire comes down to 'bad guy punch good guy, good guy punch bad guy harder', which just so happens to include most comic book writers. Superman is only perfect physically, he's not immune to emotional struggles or complex questions of morality. If you put Superman into a morally complex and nuanced story, like ASOIAF, where he can't just punch the evil away, he becomes really interesting. In concept it's very similar to Daenerys in the books, and for a very brief period of time in Season 7. You have unparalleled military might, but that's not really enough to solve all the world's problems, and you can't even use it freely because of the collateral damage you could cause.

[@infinite5imal]

agreed. what's special about him also is that he's good because he CHOOSES to. If he didn't, he has the power to do god knows what amount of damage, but he actively chooses to follow his moral compass to a tea.

[@roronoalaw7772]

I doubt anyone who thinks Superman is boring has ever read a Superman comic

[@thehorsefromhorsinabout]

can't speak for the rest of the eps, but after the daemon and the gold cloaks scene, I immediately said out loud to my friend, "wow funny how that scene was at night but you could see everything that happens cough cough the long night cough"

[@aliensconfirmed3498]

Characters that are not purely good or purely evil? Yeah that's good writing and that's one of the reasons GoT early seasons were so great.

[@TawnyGryn]

GOT only ensnared me around the last part of season 1. bfr that it was just intriguing HOTD got me by the pilot (though this could end up being a double edged sword later)

[@Persephone_Personified]

I love the part when the evil Queen stares out windows. She so evil. It’s #1.

[@creatrixZBD]

and they wear the dark colours. I'm glad, it helps me remember which side everyone is one

[@extremegrieferbible]

I can just picture the journalist who wrote this article watching the first episode of Game of Thrones and being outraged it doesn't have the same grand CGI effects and "assemble a team to save the world" plotline that the Lord of the Rings movies had.

[@SmokeyEdits]

"where's the camaraderie we've come to expect from high-fantasy?" it's only a matter of time before some dumbass reviewer says some shit like this

[@Tyler_W]

Woah, shots fired. Don't disrespect the king of fantasy like that.

[@criert135]

Lord of the Rings didn’t have that many CGI effects. The most impressive effects were all practical, with huge miniatures, prosthetics and thousands of extras

[@aimeejones9533]

Nobody LIKES seeing women and girls treated that way but it's literally a medieval patriarchal society that we have seen before in GoT. What were they expecting?

[@TtroubleTT]

"None of these characters are purely good or evil" This is when the article truely pissed me off. Like bruh THATS THE POINT. Purely good and evil characters are boring and dull as fuck and actually makes it harder to connect with them. And did they even bother to watch Game of Thrones. There was rarely a person so painted as good or evil. Its mere perspective and sides. Also they say daemon is the closest to represent evil but honestly he just plays gray the best out of all of them.

[@juliac2080]

All these people had their droll “hot take” articles ready before they even watched the show.

[@DukeDukeGo]

"Poor charachterization is a problem with every person we encounter. None of these characters are purely good or evil." And that's a bad thing? Do you know George RR Martin? I'm pretty sure there's a quote by him about his charactern not being purely black or white, only shades of grey What character in early GoT was purely good or evil? I mean even Joffrey, I'm not sure how culpable he even is. He was a child and double inbreed (child of siblings who are children of first cousins) which probaly greatly impeeds his mental capacity. And he was primarily raised by Cersei who was constantly telling him he could do no wrong and was entitled to everything. If you can't really understand morality and good and evil, can you really be either?

[@brianwalsh1339]

Articles like this make me thankful that I’m a Warhammer fan: too obscure for Hollywood, but too big to not have fans. I feel for you GoT fans, though.

[@isiaharellano3789]

Lol haven't you heard? I think they're planning a Warhammer series. Just be ready for the inevitable 😂😂😂

[@A-Rather-Dubious-Character]

If this is what qualifies to be considered a writer, then maybe my writing wouldn't be so bad...

[@quaithe1]

“phenomena are singular“ might be the dumbest oxymoron ever put to print. Phenomena. Phe-no-me-na. It's literally plural

[@varsoonhks3211]

Gildy Glidy, I ask you consider ole Supes more completely--not just as a story about concealed identity of a survivor from a doomed civilization penned by a Jewish author during War War 2--but also as an exploration of the cultural application of power. Besides just being an emblematic Ubermensch, Superman navigates what it truly means to absolutely wield American morality. Read Superman for All Seasons, All-Star Superman, Red Son, and Morrison & Greg Pak's Action Comics runs for some highlights. I find that most people who begrudge Superman as a boring character without internal or external conflicts are people who haven't really read much Supes. Even in the times that Supes himself isn't the most compelling, he's placed into captivating situations that are only made more gripping by having a moral deus dropped in the middle of.

[@unc54]

The writer of the article seems like the person who would call Season 6 the peak of GoT

[@OnewingedAngel69]

You’re right about everything except that last bit. It’s explained in GOT by Stannis’s daughter the Dance of dragons was a civil war that left the Targaryen empire a shell of what it one was, which is why King Roberts rebellion even won against the Targaryens and he was able to kill the rest, because they were weak and all they had was the mad king and a broken empire with no dragons.

[@rubbish_kat]

Are there a lot of charchters that arent particulary sympathetic? Yes, but if you cant sympathise with or connect with at least a couple of the characters at least some of the time i dunno what to say. Im a 25 year old woman and i could connect with and sympathise enormously with Viserys and his struggle between making his family happy and full-filling his duty, and hell him having a nerdy hobby to tinker with to have a break from reality is probably the most relatable thing i’ve seen on thrones.

[@Clevermoreunicorn]

Just how many battles should there be in a pilot episode?

[@sihollett]

Any less than two is considered a dull affair.

[@altxogershavelayers5166]

17 fights in first 17 minutes where nobody dies and goes nowhere as well as at least 3 eunuch jokes per minute

[@niyah7139]

The whole conclusion to Game of Thrones was awful. One episode alone of House of dragons was way better than a whole season of that show. 😂🤷‍♀️ they clearly didn't watch the show at all

[@krissuyx]

I've always hated this "it's not as good as [insert thing here], therefore I dismiss it entirely" attitude. Oh well, at least this Kelly Lawler person had enough sense to dump on season 8, so she's not completely tasteless.

[@3MB4R]

Reading this article, I can only quote his Grace, King Glimbus, the First of his Name - "this is insulting!"

[@UTFR58]

What’s it with American journalist needing someone to “root” for and a story being black and white. i noticed uk journalists heavily praised the first 6 episodes and it’s complexity whereas as U.S journos saw this as a negative

[@roronoalaw7772]

Because US people are optimists and basic

[@SoLazy100]

Reminds me of some critics not beeing able to identify with anyone in Dunkirk. Like do we really need to know their names and backstory to feel for people in life or death situations.

[@theguywithpants]

I got recommended an article from "Jezebel" claiming the show was too violent against women. They claimed Viserys had to choose between his child or wife's life, when the show *clearly* stated Aemma would die regardless. If you can't even pay attention to the show you have no right to make claims like this. "Journalists"

[@TheDudztallicA]

If you confront them about their lack of attention, they'll say they have self-diagnosed ADHD or some other neuro-divergent condition.

[@yonghominale8884]

No you are missing the point. Aemma was still conscious and they Forced the c-section. They violated her without her consent.

[@theguywithpants]

​@@yonghominale8884 I never denied the presence of violence against women. I watched the show and nearly passed out, it was tough to watch. Read my first comment again. The article claimed Viserys had to choose between his child or wife's life, when the show clearly stated Aemma would die regardless. The writer of the article failed to pay attention to the show, and you failed to pay attention to my comment. And to be clear, there is a serious conversation to be had about violence against women in this show, there have been good articles written, and good points made for and against that point. Yes, they *did* violate her consent. But when the writer of a review did not listen to clearly stated dialogue, their opinion means nothing to me in every discussion.

[@Valerianqelbri]

@@theguywithpants what about violence against men? Lots of young lads dies at the turney. Dont see anyone crying about that.

[@pg1448]

I just love how in a show in wich violence against men is shown in an overly gory and voyeuristic way all the time whenever once in a while violence against women is shown in a similar fashion there is a big uproar about misogyny and sexism in the show. Like there is an obvious double standard that we are much more comfortable watching extreme violence against men than watching violence against women.

[@AL-fl4jk]

To be fair it’s USA today, they’re just proud most of their journalists graduated middle school

[@unovasfinest2623]

Higher educational achievement than i expected tbh

[@samuelcerullo9913]

I just realized because of Hot D you can’t refer to got as the dragon show

[@glimbus]

dragon show -> dragoner show

[@Die4daReloaded]

The "Spin-Off/Prequel Competition" of 2022 has already been decided anyway, because Better Call Saul exists.

[@georgwilhelmfriedrichschop3335]

Please do more of this article bashing, i really do enjoy it in a kinda weird way, seeing reasonably angry people ranting just gives me satisfaction because i dont have to have emotions myself.

[@sirgoose629]

Why was this channel made before Glidus?

[@glimbus]

it was my personal account until i rebranded it!

[@sirgoose629]

@@glimbus sorry to go all detective, loving the videos on both channels!!

[@stephaniec9539]

The good or evil comment is weird for sure

[@maliziosoeperverso1697]

Holy shit, they say "lickspittles" and "mine own" in this show? And journalists are saying this is a bad thing??!?

[@glimbus]

considine shouting "LICKSPITTLES" filled my heart man

[@papabungle]

This is article is 100% writen by someone eho would call the season 6 episode Winds of Winter where Cersei nonsensically blows up the sept and all the lords in there and becomes queen somehow that also makes no sense.

[@Bradyfamilyhams]

GLIMBUS GLIMBUS GLIMBUS GLIMBUS

[@creatrixZBD]

This is like someone who doesn't like the second album of their new favourite band, because it doesn't sound exactly like their first album

[@rin-joh8644]

Real conflict needs more swords than reasonably expected.

[@BalletomaneM]

I bet this author praised all the dick jokes made by Bronn in the later seasons of GoT.

[@shannond7437]

This “critic” is clearly still thriving on GOT hate clickbait success. The only thing she did well was managing to use ALL of the buzzwords!

[@BurgermanForever-nh2vp]

Having more magic in HOTD might have given it more of a unique identity as well as supported the lore of dragons being the source of all enchantments and spells. Not to say the focus shouldn't still be on politics and people, but more of those folks couldve easily been sorcerers, hedge seers, wannabe dragon mages, etc. There were magical elements at play in George's writing during that time which could easily interact with the continent-spanning dance of dragons. That's about the only thing this article made any kind of sense on lol

[@JeremyIceAndFire33]

Lol wow, Journalism has really taken a nose dive over the last few years.

[@duhrellrl]

4:52 WTF

[@andrejmarin1907]

I really don’t get the hate some people have for this show. Feels like they decided to hate it long ago and now nit-pick every detail they can. I personally loved it. It had Violence, Blood, Politics, Dragons and Sex. It looks like a decent and well-acted story if the whole series keeps the quality of this pilot. My personal score is a 10 for this pilot. My background (If anybody is wondering): I loved seasons 1-4, Was disappointed buy season 5, Season 6 was mostly bad minus the spectacle (If I rewatch ill just watch the battles) and I hated season 7 and 8. I also didn’t care much for the zombies and the magical element of the show personally (Loved the dragons ofcourse), so when that was coming to the forefront, I was mentally checking out more and more. Didn’t read the books, but I did watch some vids on game of thrones, I also know how this is going end and am excited to see it. Criticism: Race swapping is an easy one, but than again not that big of a deal. They are a separate family and house from the Targarians, they don’t ride dragons, they live on an island and are mainly a naval power that relies on the sea, so they could easily marry some black people from other parts of the world. I could have done without them at the end calling back on the “zombie apocalypse” stuff, but they hopefully wont dwell on that. The crew and cast have said some dumb stuff, which is really baffling considering how well they did the themes in the episode anyway. Even the “Toxic Masculinity” was done well in my opinion. Guys loosing their shit and fighting to the death after loosing the jaust for vanity and ego was shown pretty well. I saw myself in Daemond after he was knocked off and got up enraged wanting to fight 1v1 which gave me something uncomfortable to chew on, however uncomfortable that may be LOL(I am a tall and pretty athletic/muscular guy BTW). If anybody has read everything, I am sorry for any bad English. It not my first language.

[@s8theninjawarrior916]

Litterally agree with everyone here, I have the exact same thoughts (although there is something flase here, some of the Velaryons will have dragons (their children) not that it matters, just clarified that point)

[@Staticjokes]

I guess rage articles get more clicks

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

"None of the characters are purely good or evil..." What, morally grey characters, not in myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ASOIAF show.

[@belleville1805]

I kinda knew people will started to compare HOTD and GOT (That's a whole video with a famous channel compare them two every 2 minutes, it's kinda annoying) but DAMN

[@Lavonsweet]

Articles like this one make me resent general pop culture. This author is a prime example of someone wanting to complain just to for the hell of it. Do they even know what the want?

[@NapolyonKiKo]

The question is, how is it profitable to publish these kind of articles? Who reads them? What do they achieve?

[@faisalkamal4319]

Rage clicks I think

[@iamjimb]

a dull plot?!? Jesus christ, its one book, read it before you comment on it, or watch some videos explains the dance. What an ignorant thing to say. Well unless I guess they know the plot and genuinely find it dull.

[@Kalleesto]

I feel that this series will end up being the best of the three simply because it is the only one that has been finished ... as much as any history can be finished, even fictional. The 'event' has been finished by GRRM, I mean.

[@karlwittenburg5868]

What? The characters in a show depicting a world based on a major period of real life history talk like people did during that period?? Worst dialogue ever! I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they hope that Aegon would unironically use the term poggers when he torches the Shepherd or some moment like that

[@shannond7437]

World of Thrones fading & Targaryens slowly failing?!? Both go out in a nuclear dumpster fire implosion!

[@KarlKarsnark]

Get 'em Glimby!!!

[@infinite5imal]

how can you praise game of thrones, which has more grey characters than any other tv show and make the political drama (that you claim is what made the show great) so much more interesting, and in the same breath shit on HotD for the exact same reason??

[@FishLunchy]

Theyre calling it Dragon?? It's Dragon Show!!!

[@bmirkhanzadeh]

Lot’s of these authors are on the pocket of other streamers like Amazon prime and Netflix. They have an agenda

[@TheDudztallicA]

just goes to show that modern journalism is more about your political stance and vocabulary. Its less about your actual level of intelligence.

[@faisalkamal4319]

It's more like when you play the game of thrones you either win or you brood in a castle

[@lkizzlesedai8421]

Wonder if the author of that article has written about any of the marvel universe and how formulaic checklisty those happen to be

[@DarksideGmss0513]

Did this guy even watch game of thrones none of those characters were neither good or evil aswell

[@a.p.2019]

.... Did they miss that Blood and Fire was written by GRRM? And is the basis for this show...?

[@artwithlaur]

Sorry I'm in Ireland I'm just curious if other episodes are out yet or if there's still just the one

[@jacksonross5941]

Just one, they come out every Sunday. You might be confused because a lot of the people writing these reviews got to see the first 6 episodes before everyone else

[@artwithlaur]

@@jacksonross5941 yeah that's what was confusing thank you!

[@E_Reich]

Bet this person likes Rings of Power

[@veritusahriman9720]

That reviewer must have been getting a hefty paycheque from Amazon