All Cyclists Should Do This (But The UCI Screwed Us Over!)

  Рет қаралды 122,808

Global Cycling Network

Global Cycling Network

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 460
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Do you use clip-on bars or will you after watching this video? 🧐
@TouringTony
@TouringTony Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of installing them because I do endurance cycling. However today I saw this video and earlier in the day I proved how good my disk brakes are by nearly going over the top as I did an emergency stop on a British country road with large hedges and bends So not for me unfortunately
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
i have used them in the past and will use them in future. they are just so good on longer rides. also you can mount your brakes on the tt bars to solve the braking issue.
@matt_acton-varian
@matt_acton-varian Жыл бұрын
Yes, when occasion calls for it. I ride TTs on a Tri-modified aero road bike (can't afford a dedicated TT bike) and I also like to use them on solo epics.
@blaze1148
@blaze1148 Жыл бұрын
Use them on my heavy Eurobike for training - very comfortable position but I wouldn't use them in back lanes - not stopping quick enough for an on-coming tractor would not be a good look.
@vladislav905
@vladislav905 Жыл бұрын
I am doing long rides and bikepacking. Clip-on bars are great to rest your hands. When I didn't have them after 4 days bikepacking event I couldn't grab things with my fingers. Clip-on bars are essential for events like this in my point of view.
@jonathanrobinson2628
@jonathanrobinson2628 Жыл бұрын
I commute 27.5km each way each day to work on very smooth, largely flat roads in Sweden. I put TT bars on my old Caadx and immediately saw a 2kph increase in speed. I now spend 80-90% of my commute in them. Wouldn't go back.
@sean7456
@sean7456 Жыл бұрын
this is the way
@cecio7453
@cecio7453 Жыл бұрын
​@@pinky6863 That's more
@TheLemon333
@TheLemon333 Жыл бұрын
1.2 mi.!! (: @@pinky6863
@MarkARebuck
@MarkARebuck Жыл бұрын
i also have them on my commuter bike. for comfort as much as aero gains. i have mine on risers so my hip angle is identical to when i am on the drops. some folks think my bike looks silly, but it is soooo comfy i don’t care!
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
I’ve commuted with aerobars for decades. Got my first set in the late 90s, if memory serves. I’ve gotten good enough with them that I can do turns with one hand on the aerobar and the other hand signalling the turn, while riding in traffic. Wouldn’t do a commute or a fitness ride without them!
@Justin-zv4cm
@Justin-zv4cm Жыл бұрын
They are fantastic for touring as well. Even if they aren't faster while laden, the additional position and stretched posture make the miles fly by.
@cameronreid8383
@cameronreid8383 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is the big reason so many people ride endurance things with bars. More body positions to shift around to, more places to put maps/lights/etc. I sometimes feel silly getting "aero" when I've got big fat panniers sticking off the sides of my bike, but it's so nice to shift some weight off my butt and wrists
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done touring with an aerobar, and they absolutely CAN make you faster while laden if you have the misfortune of suffering a bad headwind! :-) I wouldn’t do touring without one for that reason alone! Any other advantage is just a bonus, IMO. :-)
@julianallen515
@julianallen515 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronreid8383 "comfort sticks"
@Justin-zv4cm
@Justin-zv4cm Жыл бұрын
@@ScrapKing73 Agreed, you get a speed boost for sure! All I meant is that I didn't set out to gain speed, just a different position. I convinced my fiance to try them on our last tour, and she is a convert. We both noticed the speed boost and increased efficiency right off the bat.😋
@wackygochoco2009
@wackygochoco2009 Жыл бұрын
I put them on mine. Found a set with the flip up pads so I can still use the tops of the dropbars. Looks silly with a toddler seat behind me. But it sure helps when your hands start to hurt after all day on the saddle.
@paulmorrison30
@paulmorrison30 Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if GCN would overlay the speed, power etc for these efforts on the screen so we can truly appreciate the what the rider is doing. That’s it and that’s all 👊🏾. I have severe spinal issues and I use these on my flat bar cyclocross bike and they make a world of difference 👍🏾
@richardgate1571
@richardgate1571 Жыл бұрын
Aero bars are almost a default for Ultra riding and racing. The primary function is comfort and providing additional positions on the bike to relieve pressure on the hands. They are usually used with risers, again for comfort. The happy side effect is that even with risers, they are aero efficient and give a free speed boost for the same effort. They also allow for handy mounting points for Feedbag, GPS, phone etc and with electronic gears, additional shift buttons make staying aero easy.
@billhulley
@billhulley Жыл бұрын
I was out in the rural east of the Netherlands in the summer, saw quite a few people with stubby TT bars on quite upright Dutch bikes, even some e-bikes. I guess it makes sense riding into their famous omnidirectional headwinds.
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
Adding aerobars to an e-bike makes all the sense in the world, as the faster you go the more advantage there is to being aero. I’ve got them on my e-bike.
@sean7456
@sean7456 Жыл бұрын
@@ScrapKing73 That's been my experience too. Substantially faster and better range. On bad headwind days, I've seen differences of 30-40% on battery life from using my aerobars vs sitting upright on the flats.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Makes sense for those brutal head winds 💨
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
@@sean7456 Yeah, on bad headwind days aerobars are a must (IMO). Now when it's a crosswind that's a different story, especially if it's a gusting crosswind. I find aerobars to be a must-have accessory, but you still want to be smart about when you use them. No different than being smart about when you're using the hoods vs. using the drops!
@Shawn-pm9te
@Shawn-pm9te Жыл бұрын
I had a pair on my road bike when I commuted a breezy, flat 20 miles one way in San Diego for 15 years. They literally saved me days over that time. When I moved north and my riding became more recreational, I took them off as I prefer the handling and feel of the bike without them.
@74_Green
@74_Green Жыл бұрын
Got a set on my bike. The ability to change position, different hand positions is fantastic on long rides.
@cneubert28
@cneubert28 Жыл бұрын
One aspect is the long distance rider and comfort. Getting into a different position works so well when you are spending so much time on the bike.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Very true. Also applies to switching up in and out of the saddle on climbs!
@blockprojects
@blockprojects Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. It would be nice to have yet another position on long-hauls like PBP and LEL.
@evansmith2279
@evansmith2279 Жыл бұрын
Been using these for over 30 years. They’re fast and comfortable, I love being able to take the weight off my hands and the side benefit is about 3 mph, ymmv.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Comfort and speed! That is the perfect 👌
@jonglass
@jonglass Жыл бұрын
In a recent GCN video, someone mentioned that endurance riders tend to call them "comfort bars" because that's why they use them. Interesting how much nicer they are from multiple perspectives... Makes me wonder if it would be worth fitting them on my bike.
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
They’re so cheap, with so many potential upsides, that I recommend them strongly.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
The likes of Mark Beaumont and Jenny Graham swear by them for long rides!
@g.west2372
@g.west2372 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah... you dont need to hold your upper body weigth through your triceps and shoulders and can just sit down in your armchair, while pedaling along.... also used them for Z1 indoor riding in winter.... playing some forza horizon in the meantime, cause my hands were free 😀
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
@@g.west2372That's genius! I used to also play Xbox when indoor training, but I had to get a recumbent trainer to do it. If only I had thought about using aerobars on a regular bike for that!
@pittviper6320
@pittviper6320 Жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with this video but I got stopped in my tracks before. I witnessed the infamous eurobike for the very first time! Locked up against a railing. It definitely has character. I was in cycle awe of it!
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
👀
@TryboBike
@TryboBike Жыл бұрын
Damn you GCN. I was just making video on the same subject! I was 7% faster overall with TT extensions.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Sorry! 🙈 Good we found similar results though!
@johnlieto8906
@johnlieto8906 Жыл бұрын
Well done Conner, safety concerns are the big issue of me and the use case, dont need the extra speed :)
@ukaszdropik2728
@ukaszdropik2728 Жыл бұрын
Dabbling in triathlon without buying specific triathlon bike makes them useful. The thing is it is more and more difficult to find modern road bike with round handlebars (aero cockpits are destroying clip on aero bars market)
@doctorno1516
@doctorno1516 Жыл бұрын
I have used clip-on TT bars on my Endurace in the past and will use them again when training for the national TT champs for amateurs. I love the look of my blacked out bike, with aero wheels and the TT bars - kinda looks like a fighter jet.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Have you submitted it into the Bike Vault on the GCN App? 📲
@doctorno1516
@doctorno1516 Жыл бұрын
@@gcn I haven't! Can't reveal all my secrets;)
@JaccoSW
@JaccoSW Жыл бұрын
I've been contemplating them for on my touring bike. When I am on a multi-day tour I will often do 100-160km (60-100 mi.) a day with bags and as CyclingAbout has shown, aero makes more of a difference than weight. And I've noticed a significant difference in speed and effort between the classic rack+pannier Vs. bikepacking bags for the same volume on days like that.
@KarlOnSea
@KarlOnSea Жыл бұрын
When I saw the title, I thought this was going to be about the 1934 ban on recumbents...
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
Most of the safety concerns with aerobars disappear if you make even semi-reasonable decisions about when you use them! Don’t use them near intersections or in other potentially tricky situations. Do use them on long straightaways. That kind of thing.
@fabioqueiros9322
@fabioqueiros9322 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Once you know the roads (and that’s easy for commuters), you can pick and choose where the bars are useful and where they’re more trouble than helpful
@Digitalbath570
@Digitalbath570 Жыл бұрын
Clip-on bars conner's gateway drug into triathlons @GTN
@daredemontriple6
@daredemontriple6 Жыл бұрын
I've got clip-on bars and I find that actually, in the city at least anyway, the biggest advantage they offer is a few extra positions to help keep the joints loose and the soreness at bay. You can hold the arm-pads and it's a more relaxed upright position which is nice after a tough climb! Living in the UK I'm often too wary to use the TT bars as intended because of the condition of our roads, however out on country lanes which are in better condition and less trafficked, they're a lot of fun!
@john_7986
@john_7986 Жыл бұрын
I also like the idea of auxiliary brake levers on the aero bars for safety. Maybe a "U" shaped bar, or a U lock bar
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
It can be done with a cable-activated brake, but I don’t know of a way to do it with a fully hydraulic brake.
@wackygochoco2009
@wackygochoco2009 Жыл бұрын
There is a GRX interruptor. But that would be a wild cabling job.
@markjthomson
@markjthomson Жыл бұрын
I use clip on bars and ride long distance endurance rides. They are primarily for comfort, but they also provide about 10% improvement in speed... not to be sniffed at.
@alastairmerrill9349
@alastairmerrill9349 Жыл бұрын
@gcn you should probably remind people that whilst it's fine to clamp these to a round alloy handlebar, you definitely shouldn't be fitting them to a carbon bar, and unless they have a suitable bracket, they won't fit aero and other non-round bars. Definitely not safe riding in a group as you made clear, but also not safe to use if there are side roads, junctions, traffic, pedestrians or other potential hazards that require you to cover your brakes.
@aa999xyz
@aa999xyz 4 ай бұрын
I put those on my mountain bike in the late 1980s absolutely amazing and was passing up road bikes! 2 inches solid wide tires@90 psi 2 additional water bottles never did get some lighting on the very front of them?Being a hard tail firmly mounted rack with solid aluminum bars enough to be my second seat after dropping down the other one! 40+ miles an hour or so just wish my brakes were that good no disc brakes were spoken of at this time! In southern Arizona this bike at five water bottles frozen the night before three fourths of the way full top out in the morning and they were all put in stocks to insulate to some degree. With temperatures of 115° or so during the summer you find different ways to keep yourself cool
@ericcoxtcu8037
@ericcoxtcu8037 Жыл бұрын
I have aero bars on my gravel bike (which doubles as my commuter bike) with SRAM wireless blips. I love them both for speed and, on really long gravel rides, to give another position for comfort.
@richlijacanacua
@richlijacanacua Жыл бұрын
This can also provide relaxation on the back, just like you are leaning on the bar with good position to the legs for acceleration in pedaling the cranks plus more aerodynamics position and the center balance of gravity on riding on top of the bicycle whole body. Excellent idea to sprint the speed of the bike!
@paullubbers939
@paullubbers939 Жыл бұрын
The cinelli bars.. Of course i used them. Who didn't, in the 90's?! They where great!!
@Esperluet
@Esperluet Жыл бұрын
Spinaci
@OsloCyclist
@OsloCyclist 15 сағат бұрын
For commuting and touring they are also great for attaching lights, a camera, the phone, an electronic horn, in addition to the forementioned.
@mikemowett7401
@mikemowett7401 9 ай бұрын
The camera angle made him look like he's going very fast. At the 11 minute mark he mentioned a speed of 54 kph, but it looks like 125 kph. Kudos to the camera (wide angle, low to the ground) really made it look fast and enjoyable to watch! Personally I love bolt on aerobars, been using them for over 35 years.
@Medic23451
@Medic23451 5 ай бұрын
Wow I am impressed by how good your position on the clip on bars looks. My main problem is that fitting clip on bars to a normal road bike seems to severely compromise either of the two positions. I guess your professional background and better flexibility really shows here.
@jacksonbahm9731
@jacksonbahm9731 10 ай бұрын
My weekend group ride is almost all TT bikes and there’s never any safety concerns. If you ride them regularly you learn when to be in aero and when to be up on the brakes. Also team time trials on country roads is insanely fun
@johne7100
@johne7100 Жыл бұрын
Used them for a few years on solo rides, loved them. Took them off when I was doing a lot of group rides, never put them back again.
@dankerman321
@dankerman321 Жыл бұрын
Added them to my road bike when I started doing triathlons... instantly added 1 mph. Eventually bought a used Cervelo P3 with aerobars all ready fitted... added another 1 mph. All these small gains are adding up so now I can keep up with the fast riders in my training group.
@MrDazP1adv3ntures
@MrDazP1adv3ntures Жыл бұрын
I found 2 mins on a local 20 mile loop in the Pennines with my tri bars. They give you free speed but they are not safe in reality if you are in traffic. I put them a Marin hardtail mtb for the road and they were great fun
@angelicoluigi3735
@angelicoluigi3735 4 ай бұрын
To be honest, it’s quite hard to talk that much when you’re busy pedaling along road catching the speed you need. Thanks for being a nice and cool presenter with the gang. One more for the road bro!
@craighoover1495
@craighoover1495 Жыл бұрын
I used to use clip on bars but that was back in 1987 to 1995 or so. I recognized the danger of them and only used them when I had a long boring straight stretch of road where I wanted to hide from the wind. I never had a mishap of any kind because of using them. Eventually I think I considered the weight of them to be a disadvantage and peeled them off and stripped down my bike as best I could to save weight (bull horn bars, little tiny brake levers--still used downtube shifters then). Alas, as I aged I figured on just being a normal, everyday run of the mill cyclist and am now riding a traditional set up. Adverse winds will just make me stronger.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Great to hear that you've tried them out! Do you think you would ever go back to clip on aero bars? Maybe for long rides?
@kylixchi
@kylixchi 10 ай бұрын
you also forget that Spinachi bars were banned, because of the number of crashes that were happening in the peloton.
@whatwelearned
@whatwelearned Жыл бұрын
Massive speeds from our man Conor there, thanks partly to the Pog Tuft (tm)
@trist_ch4341
@trist_ch4341 Жыл бұрын
I use that type of TT bars when i need to train with low watts on a big ride, it helps my back to maintain that low position you have in races!
@aveedub7403
@aveedub7403 Жыл бұрын
I used to use them in my time trial days before they were banned, then on training rides. Times improved. Then for health reasons fell outta the sport and sold my best bike attached to which were the tri bars! After watching this video im tempted to buy another set for my latest bikes, subject to them being suitable for carbon bars! 🙂🙂🙂
@markbooth6745
@markbooth6745 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Conor, yes tri bars were a game changer in tts. You can save minutes. Still use them today, only on my tt bike. And they are clip ons.😃👍
@scottburkettmichael8696
@scottburkettmichael8696 Жыл бұрын
His name is "Conor," not "Connor."
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
I used them on a couple centuries. They definitely help. You just have to be smart about where you use them.
@cmdrx5099
@cmdrx5099 Жыл бұрын
I would consider it but make some adjustments to length and place extra brake levers on them. On my cheap second hand Scattante road bike I bought, I had replaced the chains, tires & serviced. The bike came with extra brake levers on the handle bars. It’s great especially when I get tired & just want to hold the middle to rest or go faster in a straight away road.
@dylanhunt5368
@dylanhunt5368 Жыл бұрын
That lock of hair sticking out of the helmet is a rather peculiar choice of fashion. It is absolutely mesmerizing.
@lyellharrington7260
@lyellharrington7260 Жыл бұрын
Still use the clip on tt bars on my bikes or the wide mounting lights bar set up as a mini tt bar for my long night commute rides, sure saves the body extra energy for the head wind sections, given enough riding time in the tt bars tucked position you can actually handle the unexpected stuff road wise with more ease than you would expect while in the tucked position, in a group ride hell no but as solo sweet as.
@hisdadjames4876
@hisdadjames4876 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Conor. Pretty convincing advantage, assuming they are used judiciously. I think Ill go for it…just got to find oval brackets suitable to fit my existing ‘aero’ bars.
@abrickman7924
@abrickman7924 Жыл бұрын
Used clip on bars back in my triathlon days. I haven’t used them lately but was considering it for comfort, I would only use them when riding solo though, not in a group ride.
@justittude1524
@justittude1524 Жыл бұрын
I have TT bars, have had them on my bike for 2yrs, i do long rides and they are just wonderful in long rides, you get to relax your whole body and there is a zone you get into and before you know it, you're gone and the miles have just been chewed up. Yes it takes time to get used to them especially on descends, but if you're careful, you will enjoy your riding. It's cause of my TT bars i have not moved to flat aero bars for my roadie.. TT bars for life...
@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling
@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling Жыл бұрын
i used to love using my clip on bars several years ago when I had to commute to work as my commute was just over 20k flat and then another 15k undulating (and then the reverse on the journey home). used to love that feeling of speed. when i first got them though it still took a good week to get used to them, with one hand on the tri bar and one on the hoods until gaining the confidence to go all in. really good for longer rides too just to give you another position for your body.
@karelvandervelden8819
@karelvandervelden8819 Жыл бұрын
Do not forget they slow you down if you hardly use them on a ride. (But with headwinds in a climb I can use them too.)
@wmigdal
@wmigdal Жыл бұрын
I ride with aero bars all the time, but I do not ride in groups. If a do ride in a race with a lot of people, I do not ever draft off anyone. I also focus on riding/racing long endurance events, so I need every watt saving I can get.
@wallacegrooms7791
@wallacegrooms7791 Жыл бұрын
Bound to stir the pot with this video. Show up to a club ride with a pair and you will be shunned. As a solo commuter, out in the country with little traffic tt bars are a game changer. You really need to practice and maybe make some adjustments to the bike. Yes, I am quite pro tt bars but only in safe solo conditions.
@JohnMFlores
@JohnMFlores Жыл бұрын
Big thumbs up to the film crew on this one. Great framing and sense of speed!
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@tomashornyak6987
@tomashornyak6987 Жыл бұрын
I fitted my bars with Sram wireless shifters. Now I can stay longer in the bars and ride much more comfortably with shifting without moving my arms…now I dont know how could I lived without this…=)
@jacobcampbell2837
@jacobcampbell2837 4 ай бұрын
tt bars and the cane creek computer mount is an elite combo!
@TexasNightRider
@TexasNightRider Жыл бұрын
I'm an old cyclist and find my clip-on bars really help with speed and and when riding with a stiff headwind. I find them to be very comfortable. The bars also give me seven points of contact with the bike. Wouldn't ride without them.
@meibing4912
@meibing4912 Жыл бұрын
Have used TT bars for 15 years. Love them. Got a new aero bike with flat bar top - and have no idea how to get TT bars on it... 😪
@russellmoore1533
@russellmoore1533 Жыл бұрын
Back in 1995 I was peeved when ACP banned tri bars for PBP that year, yet allowed all other types of aero 'bikes' etc. So I added a handlebar bag which just happened to have a concealed grab bar in the front of the bag which could be pulled up or down when needed, it passed tech inspection at the time.... Now I have a single aluminium tube shaped as per your tri bars, clamped under the handlebar stem, I just intertwine my fingers around the end, half the weight of the double set up.
@jamesrosar3823
@jamesrosar3823 Жыл бұрын
Sounds rather clever! I’ve found that I can use a longer and narrower handlebar bag to drape my hands over, and I customized some thick foam triangles fitted over the bars as my forearm rests, and it works great for me!
@johngretton8543
@johngretton8543 Жыл бұрын
For every day, group and club rides no, but a few years back when i decided to try TTs and wanted to see if I enjoyed it before investing in a TT bike, I used Clip on bars. Obviously faster but they do lead to TT addiction and spending money on a TT machine. I have now kicked the addiction and occasionally do a TT in the road bike category.
@ABD5667
@ABD5667 Жыл бұрын
He said holding the bars in the "puppy paws" position is now illegal. I remember many years ago there were road bikes which had 2 sets of brake levers, the main ones in the down bar part and a second set on the horizontal central part
@carlosflanders518
@carlosflanders518 Жыл бұрын
Cross top levers. They were popular on cross bikes for a while (when you want to shift weight back while descending) and are very useful for commuting when you want to sit up and have a better view of traffic - especially when starting off after stop signs and lights. I think you can get hydraulic ones for GRX.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 Жыл бұрын
Super narrow bars with no brakes levers are for time trialing and triathlons, where there are usually no big, tight groups. Last year I bought a used bike that came with a triathlon setup, brakes on the flats and shifters on the skis, and I tried riding it. Honestly, I didn't even feel comfortable on them all alone--just too narrow to give a sense of control. Besides that, they're heavy and they add complexity. I bought a set of 40cm drop bars and brifters, and I'm waiting for a rainy day to make the swap. I have no further interest in using these bars, but they might make an interesting piece of wall decor.
@declanbroderick4453
@declanbroderick4453 Жыл бұрын
I have them on my Canyon Aeroad that I commute with. I use them maybe 50% of the way. Can't use them in town. Great for speed (10% faster 33 kph v 30kph), TT practice also. Cons: braking, changing gears, cross winds, group rides
@simonalexandercritchley439
@simonalexandercritchley439 Жыл бұрын
Have used them since the 90s on road and road commuter bikes mostly solo but tricky in groups. On my TT of course also on my 29er mtb hard tail set for comfort,much quicker to and from the trails!
@X2Broster
@X2Broster Жыл бұрын
I believe that everyone should use clip on bars. The position is more ergonomic and avoids hand problems. Hands, arms and back can rest.
@JMach-pg1ig
@JMach-pg1ig 6 ай бұрын
I do triathlon but also general cycling, I just leave em on its no big deal to just not use them if your climbing or in a group, easier than taking them off.
@brannmacfinnchad9056
@brannmacfinnchad9056 Жыл бұрын
I do use them on one of my commuter road bikes. Makes my commute so much more comfortable, and a little faster. I don't get in that position in downhills, or on more main roads. Still working up to putting them on my nice bike...it's a lot more twitchy than my commuter.
@SupGaillac
@SupGaillac Жыл бұрын
I tried it once for my commute (~15km). Unfortunately, there's too much crossings and portions with shared use with pedestrians to be used .. and thus useful.
@smuttyrutty
@smuttyrutty Жыл бұрын
I put a set on my turbo bike. On long Zwift rides it was nice to just stretch out and get a slightly different position. As others have said its for comfort (not going to get any extra aero indoors!)
@believerscc
@believerscc Жыл бұрын
I had a hoop style on my 87' Cannondale and loved it. Dropping to my down tube shifters was a pain either way. Now I have an Ordeal TT bike. I've heard about the safety issue and had a few pucker moments myself. Surely there is a way to mount two sets of breaks to the bike. With e shifting, I could see that working out so you can shift on the skis or hoods.
@edwarddonghi1471
@edwarddonghi1471 Жыл бұрын
I have a pair of longish end bars on my mountain bike but in the middle, I only sue them uphill and on the flat but they seem to make quite a difference into the wind and I can tie things to them. Maybe on road bike electronic brake calipers, sure could be a good thing for the bike industry!
@Darioman365
@Darioman365 2 күн бұрын
I have the vision 4d bars which the tt bars bolt through the bar. I love them on my road bikes. For me its not always about the speed. It's just a nice comfortable way to ride. And on cold days it's surprising how much warmer it. I don't use them in the group. Will do up front if people are ok with it. But unfortunately not even allowed to have them fitted on your bike for club runs. So i just meet up for coffee. As for safety. It does make you possible plan ahead a bit more. You have to use your common sense. Just cause they are fitted doesn't matter you have to use them all the time. I will also keep one arm on the bars and one cover a brake in some situations.
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
you should also use tt helmet with these. it helps even more.
@willgibbs7754
@willgibbs7754 Жыл бұрын
I have them on mine...I mainly ride solo and endurance type ride, so I use them 50-75%of the time.
@bikeon143
@bikeon143 Жыл бұрын
When I had finger fusion surgery I put on bars and fell in love with riding with them, they save my wrist and I haven't taken them off.
@davet003.5
@davet003.5 Жыл бұрын
Gravel riding into a strong headwind, my friend in the drops was doing 40W more on his power meter than me (200W) on my aerobars. Side by side, straight road but different power meters - semi scientific.
@KWBZoersel_IH
@KWBZoersel_IH Жыл бұрын
I use them on my gravel bike for commuting and for joining gravelrides. The road to and back is much faster with these and also it is a way to relax on the bike. It is an extra position on the bike and you can rest with the ellbows on the bars, so you can recuperate from the steering and manouvring on the bike. Never want without them anymore. On grouprides on the racebike, I don't use them for safety reasons
@stevezodiac491
@stevezodiac491 5 ай бұрын
I have time trialled in races with my Trek Speed Concept all out TT bike and a Cannondal system six with vision mas 'clip on' TT bars bolted to the top of the normal vision drop handlebars attached to the cannondale system six. Although the speed concept was very slightly faster, there wasn't much in it between the two bikes at all, over several TT races. By the way, you can hear the electric motor on the camera operator's bike.
@stevewindisch2882
@stevewindisch2882 Жыл бұрын
I get justifiably scared when someone rolls up to a high speed group ride with clip-ons, but I highly recommend them for extended touring. Even if you're not trying to set any records, they're really nice to have on the days when you have strong headwinds.
@cruachan1191
@cruachan1191 Жыл бұрын
I'm not riding at a high enough speed for long enough for them to make a difference to me, but I can see the appeal on long endurance style rides, like Ollie mentioned in his recent Tour Des Stations video just having that different position and being able to relax the arms and upper body a bit would help.
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
You don’t necessarily need to be going very fast for them to make a difference. If you’re going 30 km/h and suffering a 20 km/h headwind, that’s like riding at 50 km/h in still wind.
@256shadesofgrey
@256shadesofgrey Жыл бұрын
If braking is a concern, it should be fairly easy to have a 2nd lever on hydraulic brakes with a Y splitter. That could then be put onto those TT bars.
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
Yes true. Or you could mount front brake on TT bars and rear brake on normal bars. Why this way? Cus you want better brake on the bars that are faster.
@Joe-wk9ow
@Joe-wk9ow Жыл бұрын
That is what I was thinking. maybe you can paten the idea.
@kokonanana1
@kokonanana1 Жыл бұрын
@@oplkfdhgkTT bars with brake lever for front wheel. Good way to go over the front in a panic stop!
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
@@kokonanana1 I haven't had that issue. It's not that hard to learn that you shouldn't press the brake as much when using TT bars.
@rasmuswi
@rasmuswi Жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands I saw loads of people riding with aero bars on their everyday commuter bikes, usually pointing pretty much at the sky. I guess they just find it comfortable, it didn't seem like a very aero way to use the bars. But the bars weren't originally designed for speed, they were invented by triathletes who wanted to rest their tired arms arfter the swim!
@salzhaltigersalzhaufen586
@salzhaltigersalzhaufen586 Жыл бұрын
I mainly use my TT bars for bikepacking and really long rides like 200+km to either keep my handlebar bag in place with an extra velcro strap and to get a different hand and body position
@djiembefolaDan
@djiembefolaDan Жыл бұрын
I ride solo mostly, and use them judiciously. They add 1-2 mph easily.
@ghowell13
@ghowell13 Жыл бұрын
Those day-glo shoes are everything❤
@Maxl14
@Maxl14 Жыл бұрын
Use them for long distance originally for comfort to relax the hands and wrist. I did note a significant increase in speed …
@martinandcarolyn
@martinandcarolyn Жыл бұрын
I use them for long distance Audax and Ultra events mainly to add comfort & take weight off my hands but never when I'm just riding / commuting
@williamforbes7156
@williamforbes7156 Жыл бұрын
for an everyday item you'll need some creature comforts having the ability to rotate the elbow cubs up and out of the way would be game changer! but the bars in the vid aren't aero so losing hand/climbing restate to ski bar pads is a deal breaker for me. well that and the cost.
@cb6866
@cb6866 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Conor ....I'd need clip-on training wheels as well , OAF here , bud !
@Shadwhand
@Shadwhand Жыл бұрын
Using them on my ultradistance bike with plenty of stack for comfort. Actually would be a cool video for you guys to do - does stack significantly slow you down on aero bars?
@toshman696969
@toshman696969 Жыл бұрын
you are kidding right....of course you will be less aero. that is why all aero bikes have a low stack to begin with and its assumed you will run 0 spacers...
@sean7456
@sean7456 Жыл бұрын
Depends. If you look at modern TT riders or even race winning triathletes, most are running decent stacks. A higher and narrower position seems to be increasingly common, since it gives you more room to breath (and generate power) and sometimes even IMPROVES your Cda. Just look at the positions: old school riders ran super flat positions, almost no one does that at a high level anymore.
@andrewmcalister3462
@andrewmcalister3462 Жыл бұрын
Some riders can definitely make the "high hands" mantis position work for them. Also, in the context of your ultradistance bike, the fastest position is the one you can sustain. A very low position might be fast for a 10 mile TT, but if it is causing you back pain/discomfort, it's not going to be the fastest over a double century.
@aethylwulfeiii6502
@aethylwulfeiii6502 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always found high stack to be extremely uncomfortable.
@soda1264
@soda1264 Жыл бұрын
Rode about 10k km on them this year, couldn't imagine riding without them!
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
What's the terrain like where you ride?
@soda1264
@soda1264 Жыл бұрын
A mix of hilly and flat on good austrian roads.
@dominikinimod
@dominikinimod Жыл бұрын
My average speed increased by 2 km/h and I use them most of the time, even on climbs. Don't need drops any more. They're so much fun.
@Parabler
@Parabler Жыл бұрын
lightweight hydraulic brake levers on those TT bars that attach to the normal brake line with some kind of t connection would make it a bit safer enough to lift the ban probably
@KeshuanBln
@KeshuanBln Жыл бұрын
Just came back from a bikepacking vacation spend most of my days my arms in aero position without the special bars on it and the benefits from relaxing the upper body the whole day are imense. See why it is a safety concern but looking at stuff like endurance races aerobars are definitly a go to when u spend 20+ hours on a bike a day.
@richardclinker813
@richardclinker813 11 ай бұрын
I have a cheap set on my winter/touring/commute bike which is a cheapo hybrid. Also have mtb bar ends on it. On my road bikes, I go puppy paws occasionally. Wouldn't fit aero bars on my road bikes.
@smefour
@smefour Жыл бұрын
Two things, one more option to changing positions on long rides for comfort, and if this is your go to position it is possible to add brake leavers to these bars
@huntos83
@huntos83 Жыл бұрын
An important consideration is how much you use them when fitted. Yes they are more aero when you are using them, but actually having them on the bike and not using them is less aero than leaving them off. If you are only using them for a small proportion of your ride then they may not be a benefit or even a negative. But if you use them a decent amount the advantages are there.
@super8hell
@super8hell Жыл бұрын
I see grotesque positions people keep on the tri bars attached to the road bike, city bikes even. Tri bars are either too far (obree style) or too low (early tony martin style). My road bike fit is pretty incompatible with comfortable tt position.
@ELMARIACHI13
@ELMARIACHI13 Жыл бұрын
Interesting,and,informative video,Conor.However I`d give the TT Aero Bars a big miss.They don`t give the bike a good look,and I don`t think I`d insult my Orbea by putting them on my handlebars,but every cyclist has their own likes,and,dislikes,so I can respect that.Nice Orbea you`re riding by the way.😀👍🚴🚴‍♂🚴‍♀
@galenkehler
@galenkehler Жыл бұрын
If you're running deeper wheels, TT extensions can make you safer in crosswinds by adding stability to your steering.
@andrewmcalister3462
@andrewmcalister3462 Жыл бұрын
It does need some experience in that position to get that crosswind stability. First few times in the crosswind can be terrifying.
Should You Be Suspicious Of Pro Cycling?
35:39
Global Cycling Network
Рет қаралды 5 М.
Why I Changed Bike Size. Should You?
10:50
GCN Tech
Рет қаралды 140 М.
Watermelon magic box! #shorts by Leisi Crazy
00:20
Leisi Crazy
Рет қаралды 119 МЛН
小丑家的感情危机!#小丑#天使#家庭
00:15
家庭搞笑日记
Рет қаралды 32 МЛН
What Happens When A Complete Beginner Rides A $10,000 Super Bike?
18:13
Global Triathlon Network
Рет қаралды 494 М.
This is the fittest human on the planet  -  Can I keep up for 24h?
26:52
Magnus Midtbø
Рет қаралды 3 МЛН
9 Stupidest Bike Upgrades Worth Avoiding
10:53
Cade Media
Рет қаралды 175 М.
Can We Make The CHEAPEST Road Bike GOOD?!
15:02
Global Cycling Network
Рет қаралды 139 М.
The Amazing Way Bicycles Change You| Anthony Desnick | TEDxZumbroRiver
17:18
How Much Speed Can You Buy?
11:53
GCN Tech
Рет қаралды 454 М.
Why Riding Slower Makes You Faster: The Secrets Of Zone 2 Training
21:19
Global Cycling Network
Рет қаралды 1,1 МЛН