Glow EZ Lock Deep Parabolic and Beauty Dish Softbox Flash Modifiers

[@YoungBlaze]

I swear, your like the only person on KZbin that actually reviews these brand of softboxes,

[@deenugent473]

I called Adorama and changed my WHITE to SILVER just in time after watching this video. Made a lot of sense with the silver option. Thanks Robert!

[@jeffpeterson5528]

With the white cover, you have white...the only time it makes a difference is when used as a beauty disk. Also light bouncing around inside does not cause yellow...age causes yellow. Flashes are not UV light and don't degrade colors. Even if it was UV...the flash is so quick it would take hundreds of years to even degrade even a little. So if it turns yellow...it's just old.

[@deenugent473]

@@jeffpeterson5528 - Thanks for your input Jeff! I figured that with the white cover, both inside and outside, it would be good enough. At the same time, I could use the silver one if I wanted to.

[@bethaniesteph472]

I have an 60" octabox from paul c buff for 5+ years now hasn't yellowed. You will see a difference with a silver interior and white interior regardless of diffusers . I always choose white interior over silver, because white in my opinion looks better for skin tones over silver.

[@jaybird9255]

Just got mine in the mail today and am super excited about trying it out this weekend on a shoot!

[@WatchThatFirstStep]

@03:19 You mentioned worrying about the material tearing. Well, it tears. At least mine arrived with a tear, and it gets a bit larger every time you set the beauty dish up. I don't have tons of experience with light modifiers but I liked the Glow EZ Lock Beauty Dish during the brief time I used it. The representatives at Adorama were very helpful and paid for return shipping on the product. I ordered a replacement and keeping my fingers crossed hoping the tear was a one-off. Btw, this was a great review video and was the reason I ordered the initial 34" Beauty Dish.

[@BTcycle]

I bought the 42" beauty dish (silver) when it was released and liked it so far. Very hard to push the center piece to the rod but that's my only complaint.

[@jamesskintauy6773]

Those prices are insane. I love what I got from Cheetahstand and don't need additional modifiers right now. Once I kind of decide on someone, I usually stick to it so I will probably replace what I have with more Cheetahstand modifiers over time. If I were new and wanted to save every $$ I am positive I would be going for these at those prices. It is such a great time to get into photography...more capable cameras, all kinds of competition from 3rd party lenses, amazing and inexpensive lithium powered lights from Godox (and others are rising to the occasion so more choices coming) and amazing, innovative modifiers at great prices. It all adds up to faster, easier setups and better photos. That means more money for photographers!

[@Photomeike]

Looks like I'll be picking up one! Those prices are super attractive

[@dannycastro1826]

A 48" for $100? .. say no more fam! lol

[@briansavage932]

What a great deal! The main difference I spotted first was the reflector material on the Glow is smooth while the cheetah is pebbled. While I like the pebbled or textured material, I don't like it at nearly double the price. Very much looking forward to an a/b comparison on this.

[@nomadcreativehouse]

What is the difference in lighting between the beauty dish and deep parabolic? What is the difference between the two in terms of light output and diffusion?

[@vitaleonis1196]

Some companies want 3-4 times that price! I'm so thankful for this deal, omg.

[@JulezDeJesus]

I just ordered the 20" deep parabolic yesterday. Can't wait to check it out.

[@afdrivercle]

I just picked up the 48 inch octa, 36 inch octa, and the 28 inch deep parabolic. Can't wait to try them out. The speedring on my Westcottt Rapid Box xxl just broke, and I picked up all three of these for $100 less than one Wescott!

[@TristanPope]

What is the benefit of putting the beauty dish in the softbox? Also would you use this with or without the roundhead?

[@vbahns]

Thank You! Just what I need, at a great price. Too bad they are backordered. I am still gonna order one though. Thanks for all the clear & informative videos on gear without any added nonsense. I like that you get right to it and don't show unpacking a box & other non important info. Cheers.

[@MrJupton1]

Thanks Robert! Cant tell too much diff between the white and silver on your final images. my personal taste is for white w diff. i like the more subtle contrasts. But think either one is great. and for the price..It's a No Brainer! Thanks again for the comparisons.

[@zanzhin1561]

FYI, the standard industry test for fabric strength is called the Mullen Burst test, where a hydraulic cylinder is placed against a fabric sample clamped in place, and pressure is increased until the fabric ruptures, which stops the test, and a gauge shows the pressure at the point of rupture. The test equipment and process is shown in the link below, although it shows the test being done on leather rather than fabric. I worked in an industry providing a wide variety of industrial fabrics to manufacturing companies, and a Mullen Burst value was always included in fabric specifications (we had the test equipment in our plant). kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4PKmGeugtloe80

[@MartinV.]

Great video!!!

[@jonesmatthewlee]

I'm still learning about light modifiers, but I would think the benefit of a white interior is the ability to use it directly as a White Beauty Dish with no diffusion spreading the light. The silver interior with diffusion would just turn this Beauty Dish into a Round Softbox and wrap the light around the subject, right? It wouldn't act like a White Beauty Dish at that point.

[@nipunhazra487]

Thanks a lot Mr. Hall. I have been eagerly waiting for this video.

[@blakehinds9978]

Damn...gonna get a couple. Awesome job Rob

[@ajalbetjr]

Wowwww boy I wish I knew about these a couple if weeks ago!! CAN'T WAIT to take the PATH train to Manhattan to check them out in person!! Thanks as always for all the vids Robert!!

[@denituber]

I love the crispness of your eyes in the video! What was your setup?

[@chrismancini3781]

Just ordered the 48" on Amazon for $76. I plan to use it with the Godox AD400 Pro. BTW great review as always!

[@LukeKwan78]

Wow $95 for a 48” ez!! That is so affordable! Westcott is shaking in their boots, lol!

[@darkreigncometh]

Luke Kwan They are very sturdy. I used the 42” on two shoots.

[@Seanonyoutube]

@@darkreigncometh would you use the 42” without an assistant outdoors (With sandbags)?

[@darkreigncometh]

@@Seanonyoutube I have in the past. As long as it isn't super windy, I can make it work.

[@Seanonyoutube]

@@darkreigncometh thanks for your insight, I have one on the way

[@RossMcLendon]

Sweet. I just got the Glow 28" parabolic along with the Streaklight 360 as I jump into off-camera lighting... Seemed like a crazy good price, and I was surprised checking it out the other night that the quality feels pretty good (time will ultimately tell, but first indication was good).

[@rsngrl]

how did you connect the Streaklight to the softbox?

[@bthemedia]

For silver interior - have you ever had the silver lining flick off and leave "glitter" around? All of my old silver reflectors do that, hence I would think the white would be better (especially for softer - less punchy light) albeit with lower light output.

[@THSimagery]

Thanks my guy!!! Their on the cheep for Black Friday!!! Ima grab the 25, and the 34

[@ZamoraChristian]

thank you so much I have search for this i fo on white and silver. 🙏

[@kevinharrington295]

You do a great job on these videos.

[@wjohnson20]

Are you planning doing a review of the glow pro series softboxes and parabolic softboxes?

[@isoawe1888]

Have you used the deflector plate? If so, how does using the extension rod or flipping the plate over effect light quality ? Thanks.

[@HaimGreen]

Great video , looks like great products.

[@Jantonvid]

Black fabric paint should take care of that branding

[@josephschmeggins6311]

Funny. Out there with a model, high end camera rig and big light modifier and wants the brand to less conspicuous.

[@richardcashin5270]

Thanks for this video. I just bought a Cheetahstand 26" version and so far I like it. I got it because my Mola Demi, which I love, is awkward to travel with. The Cheetah does have a pebbled silver interior which may make some difference compared to the smooth interiors of these but the price is higher. I still love the smooth tonal transitions of the Mola compared to this but for travel you can't beat these (Cheetah or Glow, I am looking forward to your comparisons). I now considering two of Glow EZ lock small rectangular softboxs or stripbox for edge lights for that now in favor edgy sports look. For location travel and quick setup this should be great. I have a couple of older Photoflex Halfdomes and the Cheetah RBs but these are a pain to setup and break down. I may get one 20" Deep Para and the largest one and sell off the Cheetahs! However I do occasional use the large Cheetah Deep para and that chopstick thingy to focus the light which you can't do with the EZ lock versions. How is the quality of the grids for the Glow series?

[@TedHolmwood]

Have you used any of these with your CLAR Illumi Max 120? I'm thinking of getting the 25" beauty dish for fill/tabletop but I'm worried the reflector and double diff would cut too much light to make it very useful.

[@Ibrahk5]

Thank you, I've always used smaller styles like the magmod but i'm giving it a go Glow EZ Lock Beauty Dish 42, I should be able to use that on location without too much hassle right??

[@ThinkCriticallyNow]

Great video Robert, very informative.

[@markkempton4579]

I have and really enjoy a pair of the 25" beauty dishes and need a larger option for full and 3/4 length portraits. I'm considering either the 34" or 42" BD or the 38" DP. Some reviews make the parabolic look very heavy and large. Any suggestions? I need to be able to use these on location, including outdoors.

[@stefanh.3663]

very good video - thanks for that. have a question: does not interfere with the umbrella mechanism ?

[@robhallphoto]

does what not interfere?

[@stefanh.3663]

@@robhallphoto what is the lighting effect with or without umbrella mechanism ?

[@wilkbor]

Thanks for the video. I see this is now two years old..... How has this box held up over time?

[@robhallphoto]

Still using them all, the 28" deep para gets the most use, I've had it on 100s of shoots and it's always rolling around my trunk. It's held up to the abuse well, much more than I thought the lightweight material would tolerate.

[@SummersSnaps]

What largest size box in either style do you think you can go for a model that can be opened up without needing to take off and put back on the diffusion panels?

[@ktodoma]

Thanks for the video I ordered but it’s on back order Can’t wait to get it

[@D300Dave]

I have a studio with a low 7 foot ceiling where I shoot headshots and portraits using AD 200 or 600 flash units. I also do small family groups outdoors and indoors (but not in my studio). What is the smallest deep parabolic recommended? TIA

[@Kid2holy]

Which do you recommend for someone starting out with off camera flash an a Godox AD200?

[@robhallphoto]

I would start with the EZ Lock Beauty Dish in 25"/34". It's a great "all arounder" that is easily manageable outdoors.

[@7ajiA]

Hello Rob! Great video! Which size beauty dish do you recommend for an AD200Pro a 25" or a 34"? And which size were you using for the outdoor shoot by the fountain at 0:50 minutes?

[@robhallphoto]

I don't have a recommendation between the two. 34" = softer light, wider spread. I could make a case for either based on the lighting you want to achieve. I had the 42" at 0:50.

[@7ajiA]

@@robhallphoto thanks for the info! Appreciate it.

[@Jaibytes]

@@robhallphoto what do you think about using Two AD200 Pro with AD-B2 on 34'' ez glow beauty dish.

[@chaos2kProductions]

I just bought the 48 inch glow ex lock octabox. I am wondering what is the difference with the beauty dish as they both come with the same diffusion including the center disk? Also what is your favorite size for outdoor shooting?

[@hagarthehorrible1391]

How does the 24 inch beauty dish compare with the Westcott Joel Grimes beauty dish? Does this have an actual metal plate for light to bounce or is the centre of the inner baffle thick?

[@90krishika]

What’s the light stand you used here ? Didn’t find a link for that

[@LennyCooke636]

It all sounds so confusing which speed-ring do I get ? I have Norman LH2000, AlienBees and Photogenic StudioMax III lamps.

[@moc1911]

What is the difference between the deep parabolic and beauty dish, if comparing models with the same outer diameter? It seems like the beauty dish would save a lot of space and fit easier into small rooms. Does the parabolic geometry of the deep parabolic cause the light to be emitted a lot brighter than the more shallow beauty dish?

[@rodrigobae5764]

Are the beauty dishes compatible with speedlites? I mean, using the S-type bracket. I guess that beauty dish includes a bowens speedring built in...

[@saibhargavamanda1062]

Hi Rob grt thoughts. Im confused between 85cm n 105cm which one do u prefer for couple shoots?

[@michaelmiclat9702]

Is there times I should use and not use the reflector plate

[@EuroRSN]

What is the difference between a regular EZ Lock Octobox with a beauty dish attachment vs the EZ Lock "Beauty Dish" Octobox with a beauty dish attachment?

[@bobbyvowels9919]

Which one are you using for those outdoor shots? Debating between a 42" or 34". I was looking at the 36" westcott rapidbox, but the prices on this are great. I also know that most of the time the advertised size is a little larger than its actual diameter.

[@BrandonColePhotography]

Good stuff bro. I just picked up the 38". Gonna do a review vs the Glow. I gotta use mine in real world scenarios. lol They good tho

[@OkwyUgonweze]

What was your findings eventually? Am in the market,torn between the glow,westcott and Cheetah.

[@DiviPhotos]

Very nice video

[@tammysypniewski1891]

I know I’m late to the game here. Does it really matter the size of the soft box for video. I’m getting the Godoy video light and am interested in a small form factor collapsible soft box. M studio is TINY. My videos are just talking head videos about my skin care products. Thank you for your time.

[@robhallphoto]

Size of light modifier will be the same in video. Bigger light = softer light. In video it's also tougher to bounce light because they aren't very powerful. I know a lot of video peeps use simple panels in umbrellas, diffusers, or bounced into reflectors to get soft light while having a small carry.

[@tammysypniewski1891]

Robert Hall Photography Thanks for the response. The parabolic are all on backorder from adorama. Do you think the beauty dish would be ok for video?

[@tammysypniewski1891]

Geez, they’re on backorder too. Boy, I’m really late to the game. Lol.

[@indrajitadvani3742]

Hi Robert. Thanks for this. Four years on - how are the Glow modifiers holding up. By the way, looking at your images, I could not see a lot of difference between the images produced by a large modifier vs a small one. Correct me if I'm wrong

[@robhallphoto]

Hey there. I have not taken any of them out of commission. I intentionally beat on one in specific, the 28" deep parabolic, for about 18 months hoping to find the point at which it would break in some way. I used it as my primary key light for all of my editorial work - and when not in use I left it outside of it's case in the trunk of my car. While it's outer diffusion has stains from being laid face down on the ground repeatedly, and the exterior has scratches from me leaving it open as I go through doorways, the softbox still functions as if new. Actually, it's a bit nicer now since the opening mechanism is "broken in" and collapses more easily. I've also since added quite a few of the EZ Lock Quick Octas and strip boxes to my rental studio. 6 in particular stay open and available full-time. We have had one strip box have 1of it's four 4 elastic straps to hold the inner diffusion break, but other than that it's been uneventful.

[@indrajitadvani3742]

@@robhallphoto Appreciate the very detailed response. Thank you. Quite amusing to hear about the softbox being more manageable after being worn in!

[@ljohnson0725]

What size Parabolic soft box should I buy for on location outdoor portraiture. Thanks so much.

[@byroncole6106]

>42"

[@patrickmcmullen1190]

Mine just arrived. What's your thoughts on collapsing it? Is it really necessary to take out the panels??

[@josecolon8143]

RoH great review!!!! Thanks for the info, I’ll be getting couple of them!

[@fmrc69]

Hi Rob! I just received my 34" and 25" and love them! My question to you or anyone else is....what do i need to remove before closing these up? Can I leave the diffusion layers on? Just the inner one? Do I have to take out the deflector plate? Appreciate your time and help.

[@robhallphoto]

I think the reflector plate has to be removed for it to collapse all the way, but I rarely use it so not positive. I leave diffusion in when I collapse it.

[@RawGreySun]

Do they only come with a Bowens mount or can you change the ring to Alien Bee?

[@bchaszar]

Hi Robert -- thanks for all the info you offer! Question: here one of the reasons you opt for white interior is because white eventually yellows in all modifiers, yet in another video you say that the silver lining scrapes off and gets broken up eventually. Do you experience that with the Glow EZ Lock series?

[@mrcraggle]

Now if you could only buy these products in the UK. What do UK based photographers use? I can't really find much that isn't either dirt cheap but not great or super expensive. I bought a modifier that looked very similar to the Cheetah para but it wasn't quite the same, more like someone saw a photo of the Cheetah and made their own version. It wasn't cheap either.

[@Birchblaze]

Since Adorama commonly uses rebranded products, I wonder if there is (besides Cheetah) another version out there under a diff brand name? For instance, the Godox SB-UE is similar (size, shape, quick setup)...but with fewer ribs from what I can see. And I agree, plain black would be much preferred.

[@davidcook8968]

Birchblaze. I think the new Phottix Raja series is very similar.

[@elliotstern8582]

@@davidcook8968 I bought the Raja and it tore after one shoot in two places. Sent it back for credit. Still looking. I am ordering the Glow 28inch deep parabolic and hope it is of better material.

[@felixhernandez7155]

Robert which were you using with the blonde model? I liked those looks more then the ones that were labeled and I’m in between what size to buy

[@robhallphoto]

bit.ly/2sIpJl0 The 42” model.

[@ERoossien]

What are the other brand names used for this product. Since it looks like the Glow name is only being used in the USA.

[@romanlaureano8904]

Hi Robert, I just purchased a 36" ez lock softbox along with an adapter for elinchrom RX4 strobe. I am having a difficult time trying to install the adapter . Can't find any videos for help either. any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks , Roman Laureano

[@BaronesLoveyDeLuxe]

Would you put the diffuser in front of the grid?

[@nicolasyang7457]

I wonder how this compares to the premium priced Grand series (non ez lock).

[@experiencesforsale]

Hi mate. I'm considering to purchase a Nicefoto 90cm parabolic to use with Godox VL150 for my video needs. That's a dope setup, however will I be able to use it with a Godox V1 speedlight (with a Bowens adapter of course) or would you suggest an umbrella or another setup for flash photography; which I will place the speedlight in front of the box instead of connecting the dome around the speedlight? I will surely have the setup for my video needs and I'm up for not purchasing another softbox for my flash photography needs. That's why I'm asking if a parabolic dome will save me from purchasing and carrying another soft box. Sorry for the long message.

[@Jaibytes]

what do you think about using Two AD200 Pro with AD-B2 on 34'' ez glow beauty dish collapsible

[@raphaelpueyo6013]

I would like to purchase the Glow EZ Lock Octa 25" and I wonder if you can pack this thing with the two diffuser and the grid without removing them ? Thanks !

[@robhallphoto]

Yeah, i keep the diffusers in mine all the time. The grid makes it tough to squeeze into the bag but it is possible.

[@HeroShotz]

Sending my white one back now and getting the silver lol

[@kdlin1]

Which C-stand was used to support the softbox?

[@SmeetsDieter]

Where to buy this in Europe!!?

[@tucompaivan]

For group people, like 5 to 10 in a 12' wide , wish one? From a 7' distance camera

[@robhallphoto]

Definitely a beauty dish like the 34/42

[@bg5175]

Hey! Is that the fountain in front of Kresge Library at OU?!?

[@robhallphoto]

Yes it is, I am one of the editorial / commercial photographers for OU so spend a lot of time there!

[@Johan_Pentrose]

Do you want a shallow or a deep octa? Thx

[@sg3-h7u]

helpful! love this channel!

[@desmondtoress8172]

thank you!but i think the light is harsh in the outdoor

[@BaronesLoveyDeLuxe]

What did you think of the grid?

[@quangvietle]

what light stand are you using?

[@rolandsilva9743]

Robert if you could only get one deep dish what size would you get. Thanks

[@robhallphoto]

For my editorial work: 28" For studio portraiture: 48"

[@rolandsilva9743]

Robert Hall Photography thanks. Was looking at the glow 38 in deep parabolic too. Want all three but things are slow. Just spent a ton on new lenses and allot of godox and magmod. Gets expensive quick

[@shawnfields3503]

Looking forward to that comparison. I just bought a Cheetah Soupbowl.....

[@blakehinds9978]

Shawn Fields uno I just realized that they are the ones who made these.

[@JohnJonesRocketCity]

WOW! Now I know I got to have it!

[@djlive408]

Love your enthusiasm lol

[@hazardstorms226]

Do you have anything that compares the Glow EZ Lock to the Cheetah Quick series? I am trying to decide which to go with.

[@robhallphoto]

Nothing with head to head photos but this video is addressing the finer things kzbin.info/www/bejne/lX6UdHmlqcp6Zpo . It starts out specifically about Cheetah V Glow but eventually turns into general Q&A as it was live

[@budget_ballin]

Ugh! I just bought the Cheetahstand 48! It's not massively different in price but damn a sub100 48 parabolic quick softbox was EXACTLY what I was looking for. What's the diff b/w this and the glow 28 parabolic quick softbox that adorama was selling with their f2 flashes as part of a kit? That's like 200 dollars but this is a fraction of that price.

[@robhallphoto]

You mean the Parapop? Different opening mechanism, no beauty dish option because no center obstruction. Surprisingly I feel like the EZ boxes have a better build quality too, which is surprising considering the price.

[@budget_ballin]

Robert Hall Photography yeah that's the one. Surprise indeed. I suppose the BD option is a good differentiating factor. That's 3 levels of diffusion. Yeah I have one and they hold up okay but I doubt it will last longer than a couple years. Oh well. I'm looking forward to the live talk comparing these. Keep it up. Great channel.

[@JOSEKmb]

What’s the purpose of the reverse plate inside?

[@JannaSlaback]

Thanks!

[@RajanKannan11]

i'm planning to purchase the Glow EZ lock today from Adorama. What's the main reason to choose one over the other? 1. Glow EZ Lock Octa Quick XL Softbox With Bowens Mount (48") 2. Glow EZ Lock Deep Parabolic Quick Softbox (48") Which is best for Indoor and outdoor portraits work? Thanks in advance.

[@robhallphoto]

Deep parabolic for more narrow pattern of light. Quick will be more manageable outside in wind.

[@Marlonorellana]

do you have examples to show the difference between the deep parabolic and the beauty dish?

[@robhallphoto]

2:39 ?

[@Marlonorellana]

@@robhallphoto sorry my bad! I saw those but I mean like other work you have! maybe on IG? :) Also would it be weird to put the beauty dish on my 120D? reason being I want to be able to use it for video and photos but I have a cheap gird that gives pretty good results. Its not collapsible though..

[@roybraym]

Godox mount?

[@densealloy]

While the prices are low ( like you said just 5 years ago these would have been $500) and the quality is great (I think they are of high quality and even with heavy location shoots they will easily last 5-10 years..The nylon is at least 330D and that has fantastic tear resistance but onky moderate abrasion resistance. This is opposed to 1000D which has great abrasion resistance but once it's cut you had to burn the frays or they will keep going. So to me the weak link is the mechanisms and it feels very solid to me. So I just don't see it failing before 5 years and then you buy a new one. With that life cycle you could be 20 years down the road and finally reach the cost of a Westcott.. which IS better quality but not a 25 year box. I also think the beauty dish themselves are a waste of money. I think the 38" will everything any of the three BD will do and anything they smaller para's will do as well. It has amazing throw, great light shape, put the dish in and it really tightens it up, there inside diffuser with the double layer does am great job of fall off, then the outside and the egg crate acts like a medium soft box key light. I love it and with the ad600 I can shoot with just it from morning through high noon and not a cloud in the sky and then all the way into dusk. It truly is a jack of all trades and a master of a few of those.

[@Fleet42]

My light setup was from your recommendations and I thank you! Can you recommend the best light stands for these dishes I have a Flashpoint 200 and the on camera zoom ion for Sony! Thanks for the great work you do! Ps if anyone has recommendations I’ll gladly accept them!

[@robhallphoto]

I use Cheetahstand C10s for wedding work and Flashpoint C Stands or Cheetah Rolling Boom for more stationary stuff. I’ll link both tonight

[@devanand2121]

Thank You!

[@acismahrje7604]

not available in UK?