GM 6.5 Turbodiesel: No Start Issue

[@bishopspyroworld8921]

Makes you feel great when you troubleshoot something and you fix it. Great job!!

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Chris! Indeed, you are correct. However, on occasion when it seems to take just a fuzz too long to make it to that final euphoria, I can tend to feel a bit perplexed... This one had me pret’near there😬. Fortunately this Blind Squirrel found the nut! Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@17031969r]

Definition of Saw Surgeon, A humble man with many talents👍👍

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Ronan, humility serves me well... I’ve seen too many fools rush out and try to look like a hero.... Never ends well😬🤣. I just do what I can. My boss has a tremendous amount of money invested into my Hands On form of Education🤪. Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@thesmallwoodlot433]

It is not only wise to be humble, and smart to know when something is beyond your abilities. Always be observant of your situations, and willing to try your best. Some answers will come to you 5 minutes after you walk away!

[@MEGAPARTY140]

Saw surgeon, getting that 6.5 to start. You’re the man!!! 👍

[@stannelson2582]

Good things happen to good people. Keep it up and we will be looking forward to the next video 👍

[@tombryan720]

Great work it's almost like an investigation. I bought a lemon 2000 3500 hd flatbed and I was sure happy to get rid of it. Unlike the guy that sold it to me, i gave full disclosure at the time of sale and he still wanted it. Then contacted me a year later complaining about how much money it took to fix it. Keep up the great work

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Tom, I hear you. The beauty of it is, you have a clear conscience👍🏼. I am the same way, if I can’t properly fix an issue prior to the sale, I make it crystal clear. I’m currently undergoing this process in preparation to sell our house😬Bless’ns for a Happy New Year, Tedd

[@lewiemcneely9143]

I'm impressed. I can see the billboard out by the main road stating. EVERYTHING SURGEON- THIS WAY with a corresponding arrow.Looks like the day for electrical stuff. With the new splitter the kill switch is the size of the last joint of my pinky, maybe, so I decided it needed an emergency stop near the hydraulic valve. There were a set of open threaded holes on the valve body where a metal all weather box fit nicely. 2 switches weren't much with a NO and NC set so I could wire it however I needed. I found the hot wire to switch to ground and spliced in my piece of drop cord to go through flexible conduit to the emergency switch box. Tried it and it FAILED! Came in to eat and thought the splice had failed. Opened it back up and I had hooked up the wrong wire. Swapped wires and the splitter now has a kill switch next to the valve handle. I haven't even thought about wiring anything in ages and whatever little I had has fled. So if I work backwards, always carry a Fluke with you. Thanks Tedd! GBWYall and I'm still used to the diesels you roll/push/drag start.

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Lewie, isn’t it funny how you can walk away from something for a little while and come back with a fresh perspective? Well, either that or find yourself think’n “Now what exactly was I doing before I took a breather?”🤣 Glad you were able to make sense out of the switches.👍🏼 I seem to be continually making alterations to things like that. I built a rock trap for our 27hp leaf vacuum, I also put a micro-switch on the clean out door. If a guy was foolish enough to reach up in there with it running and he was a bit of a contortionist, he could reach into the impeller... The switch won’t prevent it from happening, but it would save a lot of fuel if the ambulance driver couldn’t figure out how to shut it down 😬🤣. Safety First😉 Bless’ns to you and your honey! Tedd

[@lewiemcneely9143]

@@sawsurgeon I like what some said that when you finally idiot proof something the world come up with a bigger idiot. I got my black and white backwards. And I usually leave something scratching my bald spot and come back doing the same. I should've taken a nap but I'm too stubborn for something I did to whip me for too long so back I went to kick myself if nothing else. And I carry a stick for the bagger/mower to clean out the chute if/when it stops up. Too stubborn to re-crank it and I pick the clog right back up again anyway. We all try and improve on stuff the big guys that draw this stuff up ought to come up with. Bless ALL yall too, Tedd! GBWYall, Buddy!

[@OntarioFirewoodResource]

Good job figuring it out. I used to drive a 96 for work and it gave a lot of problems

[@OntarioFirewoodResource]

Hey man, if I have a spare TPS, can I just swap it? I'm guessing it still will need an OBD tune

[@dmalloy96]

Glad ya got it fixed I worked on my dodge for 3 weeks finally took it to the shop with in 20 minutes they told me I needed a computer so I put it in myself and that fixed it

[@sawsurgeon]

Oh David! I wish it wasn’t so easy for me to top that one, but here I go😬. Years ago, we picked up a used late model GM truck. The wipers quit working. I looked seemingly Everywhere for the fuse. Big box under the hood had lots of fuses and relays, but nothing for the wipers. With no fuse box under the dash, I figured it was something else. The GM dealer replaced the fuse which was on the Left end of the dash... I wasn’t impressed! (With myself 😬🤨). Bless’ns! Tedd

[@Sheerahboom87]

I have no idea about things like you does but you sounds so expert to me.

[@sawsurgeon]

No expert, just able to eek out a win on more occasions than not... Oh sure, I can talk a good game, but I’m still learning more days than not! Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@outsideinmichigan]

Hey Tedd sometimes I wish I was as mechanically inclined as you are good job buddy.

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Dean, all I can say is that we all have our own special skill sets. Although I am blessed with a mechanically inclined mind, at times it can feel like a burden😬 Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

@@sawsurgeon I know the feeling Ted.. So,you are definitely not alone..

[@5meanbean]

It is a bitch sending a job out of your shop .It happen to me lately for the first time .And the other shop could not fix it ether. But you Sir just did . I have a 6.5 Thank you Hell of a job . YOU ARE THE MAN Keystone Auto Body Shop Las Vegas C. Been Thanks! Big Smile

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Charlie, you know, I’ve gotten a lot better about sending stuff out. I still need to let go of more maintenance tasks to free up time for bigger projects. A friend of mine runs the best auto repair facility around, so when I ship things out I have confidence they will resolve the issue. Bless’ns to ya, Tedd

[@jeremywever6947]

My Grandpa used ro tell me it would always be in the last place you look, lol. That works for a lot of things, like where did I put that wench, why is this not working....Good find!👊👍🧡

[@sawsurgeon]

So true! This particular example was one of those projects that I handed off to another teammate... He’s successfully swapped out three so far. I just hate having to backtrack someone else’s work. I generally work alone and there’s a reason I’ve positioned myself in that manner😬🤣. Obviously it all worked out in the end! Bless’ns Jeremy! Tedd

[@Lifeinthe906]

Hey Ted great video. I do lots of mechanical work on the side also. Those crazy electrical problems can drive a guy nuts. Glad you found the problem and didn't have to do the walk of shame into the repair shop. Thanks for sharing

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey there Mr 906, oh boy... Electrical issues😬 Misery Loves Company, thanks for being here! They’re bad enough as it is, but this truck is a Military CUCV II. GM produced it with a 24 volt starter and a 12 volt alternator... They then put a Magical Electric Box behind the seat to bump the voltage up to 24 to charge the batteries which are wired in parallel🤔 There are a number of other oddities about these that do not appear in a GM schematic. Steel Soldiers website has a lot of the military manuals available, however there always seems to be something either added or omitted🤪 Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@famasmaster2000]

Do i hear a possible name change ? 'Diesel Surgeon" ?? Nah, as cool as this was, Saw Surgeon is still the original !!! Well done and way to trouble shoot. I love coming to a successful conclusion in cases like these. Again , well done Surgeon 👍👍

[@sawsurgeon]

Nah, Dees’l is too hard to spell, I much prefer Saw!🤪. Thanks to another KZbin creator I was able to save a bunch of time and money👍🏼 I wish I could remember who it was to give the credit to, but this is a video from late last winter. Cleaning out my devices so I can process new content. Thanks for stopping by, Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@aldredske6197]

Hi Ted!!😀😀 With all the electronic things on the vehicle's now days it's hard to find out what is wrong without a diagnostic computer. Thank God for You Tube though. It seems that most any problem you might have someone else has had it too and usually can get you on the right track to figuring it out. Glad you got it fixed!! Take care my friend!!😀😀❤❤ Logger Al

[@sawsurgeon]

Howdy Al, indeed. I have No interest in learning diagnostics and troubleshooting of automotive electrical gadgetry😬. I much prefer old school. So much so that my ‘05 Dodge which was issued with a 24 valve common rail engine with two ECM’s has been replaced by a ‘97 12 valve P-pump with Zero, count them ZERO ECM’s🤣. KZbin has helped me a ton with working through nonsense like this example.👍🏼 Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@bowtieboy4273]

Great video and explanation, thank you for taking the time!

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Bowtie Boy, my pleasure. I was so frustrated with it. The fool thing would send power to the PMD just long enough to fire for a second, but not start. Which made me think I had power to it. Talk about frustration! Bless’ns to ya, Tedd

[@TattedTommysTv]

I've got a GMC mid bus with the 6.5L and having issues with it starting never had any issues it got a lil cold in Texas but that's a bout it mines not starting any ideas...

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Tommy, unfortunately anything I say will be a guess. The cold has a tendency to reveal a diesel’s weak spots. Is it cranking over relatively quick or is there a notable drop in cranking speed? Batteries, cables and starter are common culprits. A 20° drop in typical cold season temps can make them struggle. Fuel, fuel filters and lift pumps can be a factor. How many miles are on the bus and past service history can have detrimental effects on cold start efficiency. I would start out by checking the condition of the batteries. An amp draw test will tell you if cables or starter are the weak link. Lots and lots of factors to consider. Best of success to ya, Tedd

[@robfarrell7362]

Good job Ted well done.👍🙏🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@sawsurgeon]

Thanks Rob, just doing my job... Sometimes I almost feel worthy of my wages🤣 Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

Nice find Ted. Someone out there is pulling out what hair they have left only to find out its a control module thats faulty or unplugged..

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Daniel, and that my friend is yet another reason why I love my 12valve. The fuel control solenoid died last year...🤷🏻‍♂️. Like I really care, I know how to shut her down and with the manual trans, I can get it started even if the starter gives up the ghost😉🤣 Bless’ns! Yak at ya tomorrow night! Tedd

[@CebuanainFlorida]

Thank you for sharing your idea.I'm from Nick live ..👍

[@oldmanfred8676]

My great big French door refrigerator croaked electronically. The electronic module had given up the ghost. Waiting or a new one to come. It was loaded with food.

[@sawsurgeon]

Well Fred, even though I “Liked” your comment, it certainly doesn’t mean I like your situation😬 Hopefully you get it resolved quickly! Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@tomwaldo9556]

That was cool. Good video.

[@sawsurgeon]

Thanks Tom, just a glimpse into my life and times! Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@09Youba]

I have a 93 chevy 6.5 1 ton. I have no power to the ignition. I have checked the fuses and batteries and they are all good. Where would you start to find out why I have no power to the ignition. Thank you for any suggestions.

[@glennevitt5250]

Man thank you for this information and Great Video 😎🤙

[@sawsurgeon]

Glenn, thanks for stopping by. I sure hope you were able to glean something out of it. We’re on unit #88 in our fleet. I’ve been wrenching here for over 25 years and I’m amazed how many ‘Firsts’ I experience. Continuous Learning Opportunity👍🏼. Bless’ns to ya, Tedd

[@glennevitt5250]

@@sawsurgeon i Have Thanks And have a Merry Christmas 🎅

[@TonyR-k7f5q]

Good job bud thats my other job to building race motors

[@sawsurgeon]

Fascinating, I’ve never “Built” a race engine from the start. However I did tear down and rebuild a feisty little 327 Chevy we used to run in our Short Course Off Road Truck. 12.5:1 compression ratio If I recall correctly🤔 When I pulled the first head I couldn’t believe the domes on the pistons. I’d never seen anything like it before. There certainly didn’t seem as though there was much room for error between them and the valves at times😬 Prior to that I’d only ever tinkered with stock engines an a lot of flat head air cooled stuff. What type of racing do you build engines for? Got any videos posted? That’d certainly be interesting. Even just a shop walk around with some explanation. No secrets obviously, but I’d certainly find it interesting. Bless’ns! Tedd

[@redblur05]

How much was the module and where did you have to go to get it, online or Gm. great video

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Redblur, thanks for watching. Fortunately, I had a module from another truck, so I didn’t have to look very hard. We began having intermittent issues with it here a few months ago, so we had the security feature bypassed…. Nobody is going to want to steal this truck anyway! Bless’ns to ya, Tedd

[@TonyR-k7f5q]

You no who Tommy hearns is right boxer from Detroit retired I worked on his race boat 47ft fountain with 3 , 502 big block chevy motors in it crazy I was in a race boat we where doing 107 still had throttle left NEVER AGAIN lol

[@sawsurgeon]

Wowsers, that’s nuts, 3 502’s? I can’t even fathom that! I did however see a big boat in Irish Boat Shop up in Charlevoix that had twin turbines in it😬. Again, I just cannot comprehend going that fast😬 Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@TonyR-k7f5q]

@@sawsurgeon go to pfe racing thats my buddy Gary in race boat, look at the engine room pause , quick video

[@PurpleCollarLife]

Hi Saw Surgeon - Been there! But ours is the "reliable" Ford 6.0. I've owned it since new, but it has given us a fair share of issues. Looks like you know what you're doing. I always have to take mine to the shop. I'm no diesel mechanic. Please give our channel a look if you get a chance. Thanks in advance!

[@sawsurgeon]

Howdy Purple Collar! Ahhh yes, the dreaded 6.0... Dad had a pristine’05 that I shoulda kept. He sold it in ‘12 with only 55k on it. Never driven in winter. I wanted him to do the updates/upgrades before things went south, but he just got scared of it and bought an ‘09 with a 5.4 to replace it... I’ll head over and check your channel out👍🏼 Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@PurpleCollarLife]

@@sawsurgeon Our F350 is the 2005. While that engine has given us issues (3 replaced turbos, multiple injectors, FICM, and oil coolant bath fail), the truck has actually been a great truck. We'll likely keep it for many more years since the new ones are crazy expensive and have all the dpf additions.

[@JoesFirewoodVideos]

I’m going to stick to gas ⛽️ engines when/if I have to replace my truck.

[@sawsurgeon]

I don’t blame you Joe. The newer diesels can be very costly when the major maintenance bills come along. Today’s gas pickups are pretty efficient and reliable too. Bless’ns! Tedd

[@larrykluckoutdoors8227]

Nice going

[@arne524]

Hey. Did you change that module for the security ignition? and it ran? I have same issue

[@kennethklaumann8799]

I have same issue on a 98 cranks but no start. No fuel to injectors

[@arne524]

i found a way to reset the shit. I hooked up power to the fuel shutoff selonoid and it started after 5 mins i took the wire off the batteryterminal and it start and stops normal. Yea i have taken dash out. i got mad so hope it will mount together haha@@kennethklaumann8799

[@earthbros6508]

Oh my gosh! Tricky

[@sawsurgeon]

Howdy Earthbros, it was indeed. The truck is old enough that I would prefer to have the anti theft system omitted. Fortunately we had a used unit on hand. Bless’ns to ya, Tedd

[@eliasmitri5967]

What's the name of the part?

[@sawsurgeon]

Howdy Elias, for this generation of GM trucks it’s called Passlock. This is an example of the module. It may not be correct for your application. rebuiltcarparts.com/shop/passlock/rebuilt-19352768-passlock-module-98-00-chevy-silverado-tahoe-suburban-k1500-c1500/ Bless’ns on your project, Tedd

[@thesmallwoodlot433]

I’ve done enough work on vehicles from the “giant mouse corporation “ Have a good one Saw Surgeon “!

[@maxair420]

👍🏽🍻

[@wayne-wango-wever8393]

Oh, it was a lot easier when my 92, 6.5 td was made, the last year of the all mechanical injection. Then enginerds decided angry pixies could do the same thing more efficiently. Nice it of trouble shooting Ted. Have a blessed day.

[@sawsurgeon]

Hey Wayne, we still have a ‘93 GMC with a mechanical pump. They don’t make quite as much ooomph as the Electro-Spazmodic variety, but waaaay more dependable. Fly By Wire Throttle anyone?🤢🤮 Loves Me Some ‘Ol School Diesels😉 Bless’ns to ya! Tedd

[@RJMenges]

Where are you located?

[@sawsurgeon]

S.W. Michigan. How about yourself?

[@PierrePayne-t4o]

My suburban shuts off randomly, it's driving me crazy

[@arne524]

Could you please come in contact with me. Im begging

[@sawsurgeon]

Sorry, it’s been a busy day! Yes, security module is located under the center of the dashboard. Problem is, the only way I could see to access it was to pull the dash out completely. Once you gain access, it’s simply plug and play. They just made it extremely difficult tamper with. You will want to rule everything else out before you go tearing into it. You would be furious to swap the module only to find out the PMD is bad on your pump. Best of success to ya, Tedd

[@arne524]

@@sawsurgeon Hey thanks buddy. i found a way to reset the shit. I hooked up power to the fuel shutoff selonoid and it started after 5 mins i took the wire off the batteryterminal and it start and stops normal. Yea i have taken dash out. i got mad so hope it will mount together haha

[@ronaeschliman9210]

u do not talk loud enough

[@sawsurgeon]

Oh yeah? Well you sound like my wife!😜 I know, I know, Unfortunately I’m a soft talker and my better half is hard of hearing☹️. I will take your comment as constructive criticism and attempt to do better in the future. Bless’ns to ya, Tedd

[@TonyR-k7f5q]

Hey bud if u want send me your email address I have videos and picture package I will email ya tomorrow night have to get wife to hospital testing we got her bone marrow transplant on November 12th things are little hectic but we will get thru it not working much right now taking care of wife see ya at back 40s Friday night stream if I can make it Shifty and Scheib great 👍 guys to dan helped me out with my go fund me and Scheib peace bro talk soon

[@sawsurgeon]

I pulled the email Down, in hopes you got it. Just don’t wanna leave it out here in public too long! Bless’ns to ya & prayers for your wife, Tedd

[@TonyR-k7f5q]

@@sawsurgeon thx brother its good to meet new people God bless u and your family for good life and health

[@CebuanainFlorida]

Thank you for sharing your idea.I'm from Nick live ..👍