GM AIRBAG - No COMMunication! (Chevy Traverse)

A KZbin fan brought in his 2009 Chevy Traverse to the shop with a "SERVICE AIR BAG" message, and no communication to the SRS module.
Let's see if we can fix this one with almost no parts required :)
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Enjoy!
Ivan

[@dwoodog]

I learned....when your faced with taking the center console out, and your like oh man.... It will lead you to check the simpler things first.

[@NoWr2Run]

I learned Ivan needs a 90 degree test light, LOL. I enjoy all your vids. Sir Ivan, " NOTHING BORING AT ALL " even if you were just putting air in the tires.

[@BigDaddy_MRI]

Power and grounds first. Diagrams, test light and scanner. Boom. Done. Probably won’t know exactly why that fuse went. If it comes back, get ready for a deep dive!! Thanks. Great video!!

[@MrsSunshine75]

Ivan, I used to be addicted to the hokey-pokey but I turned myself around! I Love ur channel !

[@jcmobilediagnostics8611]

Awesome detail and insight from the customer! Almost made you seem like you know what you’re doing! As always, nice diag Ivan!

[@Mark-jd1jx]

Love your videos man found u when i was watching some other mechanic videos. Learned many things from you.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thank you for the feedback, Mark! Learning is the #1 goal of this channel!

[@ricktotty2283]

These vehicles are known for having water intrusion on the a pillar of both sides . water runs down the back of that fuse panel and causes all kinds of problems. Also runs down onto the amplifier on the driver side and causes the radio not to work.

[@mnmarlin6074]

I really enjoy your videos - you work on anything! I love the videos on the construction sites, especially the lift that wouldn't move and it was up against a wall! You deal with every day crap like in the real world!

[@forthrightnight]

Hey Ivan, subbed when I came over from SMA a year or so ago. You are the Sherlock Holmes of auto diagnostics. I like your video style. Cheers from B.C.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks for the kind words, Ray :)

[@justinhayward5027]

Yea I have seen all of him and Eric’s videos. Learned a lot from them two!

[@ganeshnarayan5505]

Great video Ivan learn something new every day.

[@trafalga5136]

While I was learning electrical procedures we were taught to first check for Power to what we were looking at. Nice video though. Enjoyed it like all your videos.

[@AP9311]

Very good diagnosis. Learned something about powers and grounds. Check fuses first then diagram for routing, colors of wires? That's what i learned. Very good video!

[@mikechiodetti6737]

Like I told a former coworker. When you have multiple codes, check to see what is the "common denominator." Could be power, ground, communication, or corrosion. Sometimes it's amazing what problems one fuse or ground can cause.

[@erwinallen2309]

in my opinion you rank right up there with Eric O and Paul Danner Keep up the good work

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks for the kind words Erwin :)

[@feeneysmechanical6215]

What you did with your test light I did pretty much the exact same thing. Except I used the adapter from the powerprobe 3 kit. I can switch from ground to power just unplugging it. Love it for doing interior work when troubleshooting electrical problems

[@ricanderson5717]

What did I learn? Let Ivan do it. I'm too old to get into those upside down tiny places like where that fuse box is...

[@NoWr2Run]

LMAO, GOOD ONE, Ric.

[@throttlebottle5906]

lol, mirrors work pretty good, providing you can bend down that far and reach.

[@devtrash]

Hokey Pokey with the fuses. I laughed.

[@547Rick]

I learned to watch more of your videos!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

👍😁

[@thirdcargarage2951]

I always enjoy your vids.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks for your support Jeff!

[@baxrok2.]

Wow, you made short work of that one. Still wondering however why the fuse blew. Thanks Ivan!

[@gmtech8760]

These had issues with water leaks into the passenger footwell, usually coming from a poorly installed windshield or cowl sealing issue. The water tends to leak directly into that IP fuse block and cause major issues over time. Something to keep in mind Ivan just in case!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Remember the GMC Acadia limp home case study? That was exactly the issue!

[@jeremyb7659]

I’ve been watching videos for a week!!! Same things with my 17 traverse

[@stevescubas]

If I come down with a car, you are going to have to make Borscht

[@Paul1958R]

Oh God my Mother ate that stuff. My sisters and me always called it borsh!t. Real old world stuff! (yes we are eastern Euro background) Paul (in MA)

[@NoWr2Run]

OH YES, YUM.

[@scottcote6291]

Whered i put my key!??😂😂😂 story of my life !!!!

[@metoon3092]

Great Diag. Ivan, always interesting to watch you seek out the problem. I miss the days where gapping the sparkplugs, installing points/cond. then on GM, raising the little metal window on the distributor cap to set the point dwell while engine running. If you had a volt/dwell meter, you were the neighborhood Ace mechanic and go to guy. What happened to these days? Lol

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@Vladimir Putin $40k will only buy 2 nice scanners. Keith must have a million dollars in equipment and subscriptions!!

[@NoWr2Run]

DAMN, If that's not the truth me toon. I have all that stuff still mostly collecting dust now. I only use it on my one 60's Camaro if needed. I remember cleaning points with a match pack striker, LOL.

[@vincescalise4821]

me toon I had a 73 Pontiac Lemans that had a little metal dwell adjusting window that was really cool for GM to have that you could get your dwell perfect

[@tirajks]

Good case study 👍

[@NewfyDad]

Your awesome ... thanks for the Video! Sure you saved me big $$$$ light been on awhile and garage wanted to order new computer for airbag .... I check the fuse and it was blown, replaced and now no more light! Hopefully that will be the end of it.

[@sewing1243]

I've seen Eric O at South Main Auto almost "get burned" on at least one of his videos because of a corroded fuse or fusebox terminals. I' d suggest that it's a good troubleshooting step to always pull a fuse and visually inspect it and its socket whether it tests good or bad.

[@feeneysmechanical6215]

Awesome video as usual Ivan. Are you selling any pine hollow merchandise yet?

[@bostedtap8399]

Great diagnosis as per normal Dr Ivan. Thanks for sharing.

[@williegillie5712]

I always wonder what caused the fuse to blow. Sometimes some underlying cause rears it’s ugly head later and blows the fuse again. Nice diag. Ivan

[@Cheepchipsable]

Yes, we will know if it's "fixed" in a week or twos time...or next rainfall.

[@ATSNorthernMI]

@@Cheepchipsable Especially when you see someone was monkeying around inside of that fuse box and the spares were gone.

[@josephrossman1600]

oh man how alldata must be nice to have!

[@zx8401ztv]

What did i learn.. nothing, but here are some possibles. Check the power feed fuse on both sides, don't press too hard as it may only make contact through the crustys while you are pressing on it lol, a recent problem :) Make sure it's the correct ampage fuse (And the spares are not dead ones put there by the owner lol ). Don't go mad and rip things apart untill you restore power, check the correct colour wire to test :) Don't believe all the info the the owner says, it can be a smoke screen for the owner messing around. Have a hot drink, it lubricates the brain... ok ok i like tea and it gives me a break to think :-). i do talk a lot of crap lol.

[@shaunsautorepairs5410]

Always check the fuses before you put it into a shop for repair...lesson 1

[@rp5029]

late model vehicles have a bazillion fuse boxes hidden everywhere tho. the average owner or even diyer may be best to leave electrical problems to someone more knowledgeable.

[@Garth2011]

@@rp5029 Agreed but then there are those types who will do collateral damage to plastic parts getting access to fuses etc. because they are on a clock to make a profit in auto repairs. I see this often...getting to the problem but damaging delicate/old/brittle/small parts along the way. I hate that...

[@rp5029]

yup, also true. that's why everyone living close to the Ivans and Eric O's of car repair should consider themselves lucky.

[@mikefoehr235]

Many comment about how crafty you are with diagnosing and repairing. I have to say your camera work is not to shabby either. I dont understand why some automakers make it so difficult to access a fuse panel or worse yet....no.labels at all...you hear me MB??

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks for the feedback, Mike! I always strive for better camera work, but get too excited about the diagnosis haha

[@JoesAutoElectric]

Great video as always brother. When are you coming back to visit?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Hey Joe! How's the scary virus affecting NYC and NJ? Would love to visit once the travel bans are lifted and business is back to normal 👍🙂

[@engeneer_ru5827]

Привет Иван! Запреты на поездки? Вот прямо до такой степени серьезно?

[@Paul1958R]

Ivan, Thank you for the video. I was trying to re-read the customers note - it seems he had the B0081 before he fiddled with the seat connector. So can you be certain the blown fuse was from him fiddling with that connector or could it be something else? Thanks again God bless Paul (in MA)

[@biggysground]

Main power fuse to the airbag module being blown would not be caused by the seat connectors, it would be caused by the power feed wire to the module shorting out or the module itself. I suspect green meanies above the passenger fuse block from water leaks.

[@jorgerd3606]

Thank you

[@frankhartford5194]

I'm in the process of opening my own garage, going from weekends to full-time. I had just been buying emanuals for the car I have in at that time, if I need to look anything up. But it looked like you use all-data, is that what I should go with as well? I need access to all makes and models, as I work on everything and anything

[@aengmax]

Don't mess with your car. Only send it to Mr. O or Ivan. :)

[@vincescalise4821]

Alvin or scanner Danner

[@aengmax]

@@vincescalise4821 Yes.. sorry

[@JD-iu3vi]

I knew a guy once that got frustrated because a fuse kept blowing but he couldn't find the cause. He replaced a 10 amp fuse with a 30 amp. Some people call this the smoke test. Yes, he found the cause. And yes it totally destroyed the equipment. It had to be replaced.

[@kevinbyrne4538]

What did I learn from this video? Don't try to repair your own car (you'll probably blow a fuse); instead, take it to Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

:D

[@HouseCallAutoRepair]

What happens when a heavy passenger is "present"? Does the problem return?

[@houstonhandsome1]

🤣🤣🤣

[@zoidberg444]

In this case the customer had a lucky escape - i would have suspected a severe case of the green crusties in the power distribution block and/or the SRS module to be full of water where it was sitting on the floor like that.

[@terenceoconnor1584]

Great video where do you get your wiring diagrams from?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

ALLDATA

[@Garth2011]

First priority is to check fuses. Then, if nothing there move ahead. Seems obvious someone was in there messing around previously. Lesson...not all customers give the full truth about the history of something. Usually, they forget to tell the mechanic "I or a friend was in there and shorted something out because we had no idea what we were doing". Would be nice if they told those stories to their mechanic...the end cost would likely be much less as the mechanic could figure the issue to be more simple than bad wires etc.

[@veil67]

in those tight spaces to test fuses you should try to modify a test light to bend them into 90 degrees probe

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Or just use some extension leads and backprobes 😁

[@NoWr2Run]

veil67, That's what I said, LO9L.

[@arthurfricchione8119]

Ivan are you sure about what might of blown the fuse? I know you don’t know exactly what the customer did but is it still okay since you accomplished the repair. They put that module in a rough spot. Did you check the connector with the corrosion? Excellent video trying to stay virus free here on Long Island. It’s all around me here in East Patchogue. Really not leaving the house so keep the videos coming Artie ❤️

[@rickrogers2649]

Hi neighbor, Coram here. Stay well!

[@arthurfricchione8119]

Hi stay well yourself. It's one hell of a way to meet people. Guess will all ride it out together. First Vietnam for me and now this. SUCKS

[@joeysanchez5926]

Virus is back. 😥

[@feeneysmechanical6215]

I also bent the tip of myself test light to a 45 degree angle.

[@rickcoleman8903]

I was hoping for green crustys, good work though.

[@thomasdemarco617]

Why did the fuse blow? maybe put amp clamp on power source or if room read amps across fuse, if ok my guesss water leak, pull back carpet check for damp padding

[@v4vauxhall498]

So the question is...…….what caused the fuse to blow ? . Nice vid Ivan

[@Garth2011]

Owner likely

[@randyhughes5160]

What wiring diagram are you using now I miss bbb

[@phprofYT]

Chevy Traverse still on the road? I'm impressed. Which transmission is it on?

[@airratchetjockey7605]

6T70 no other option

[@Michael-fw5ef]

The thing I like about GM cars is that parts are extremely cheap compared to Japanese and German parts prices. They might break down a few more times, but they are less expensive to fix.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Some parts for domestics are dirt cheap, while others are surprisingly expensive!

[@gregsarro5839]

My wifes 2010 traverse service air bag comes on an off while driving it has been getting worse and stays on alot longer while driving any ideas what to look for dealership said it was dusty and cleaned it off but still comes on

[@mrb1864]

What I learnt is GM want learn design better component access, someone at GM needed a kick in the family jewels over that one lol .

[@dawidkomuda5407]

Hi. I cant find electrical diagram as you show. Can You tell me where I can find that one? Thanks

[@rscelectrical7091]

Nice job, trust a car manufacturer to stuff a fusebox in the most inaccessible place they can find.

[@UNEEK_LOGIK]

You are not done my friend Does that vehicle have sunroof? Cause your main problem is the top side of the fuse box. Just give a quick check need to remove glove compartment water might be leaking from sunroof or windshield Dripping right on top of the interior fuse box

[@jamesg7022]

Vehicle may keep running when shut-off or the engine light stays on when shut off. Was a very common repair for the first years of those vehicles.

[@kelvinolivas7558]

Looking for some help, I have a 2010 Chevy traverse and it was in a small crash and I've replaced steering wheel airbag and seatbelts and swapped the airbag module from another 2011 and now I'm getting a code b1001 do you think it can be a fuse or the module needs to be reprogram for that car? I've even reset it a couple times and it's still the same and suggestions?

[@magogon70]

New seat belt retractors and pre tensioners,new air bag,Reinstall the old airbag module and reset it.

[@joshclark6101]

does anybody know why on the power distribution diagram on some of the circuits there's a square going through the circuits drawing with it three letter code.

[@2491kridge]

Hey Ivan can I ask you a question you might have an answer or idea for me. 2012 Chevy traverse brake light issue. There’s 4 taillights and 4 brake lights on the car which all 4 are dual filament 7443 bulbs. A few months ago all 4 brake light bulb filaments blew out but all 4 taillight filaments did not and the brake light fuse also popped. Replaced the fuse and all 4 bulbs and has worked fine for a few months and now once again all 4 brake light filaments blew out but this time did not blow the fuse. What do you think could be causing this issue and where would be a good direction to start with. Also to note the third brake light is not blowing out and after looking at wire diagrams the third brake light is not on the same circuit

[@throttlebottle5906]

I believe there known for brake light switch issues. maybe it's flickering them continuously while driving or staying on, more than off. both would make the bulbs cook. hot climates sitting in traffic/lines/parking lots with foot on the brake for long periods will shorten the life too. a broken filament can move and bridge across inside, possibly making a near short or back-feeding the marker light circuit, which would likely overload and blow fuses also.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Very mysterious problem! I would do a quick current measurement on the brake light circuit. Always use quality replacement bulbs too.

[@62ejo]

ok Ivan,but what cause it the water leak???

[@mikeaho4143]

Thats for the vid. Sometimes we overthink it.

[@chrisland169]

sometime ,quick money!

[@billziegmond4943]

Awesome video sometimes the K.I.S.S, principal needs applied.

[@twinsmm1]

based on your comment, i gotta ask. are you from western pennsylvania?

[@billziegmond4943]

@@twinsmm1 yes just south east of Pittsburgh

[@twinsmm1]

@@billziegmond4943 I knew it! I've come to recognize a trait in the way western Pennsylvanians phrase certain things. It's the way you said "principle needs applied". As opposed to "principle needs TO BE applied". My boss grew up in Pittsburgh and we've discussed what he calls Pittsburgh-ese several time. He always uses "the clothes need washed" as an example (opposed to "the clothes need to be washed"). ...of course there is "yinz" instead of "you guys", He tells me that when he grew up, they called rubber bands "gum bands". I just find in fascinating, that's all.

[@billziegmond4943]

@@twinsmm1 I have a mixed accent that throws people off. I never say yinz or you guys. I say ya'll Also I say soda I left my pop at home.I also say bless their heart. That's the southerner in me showing it'self. LOL

[@willemstreutgers1154]

So lessons learned ; 1st check the fuses

[@n9wox]

Power and grounds.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

After looking at a wiring diagram ;)

[@tabitha1d]

What cause the fuse to burn?

[@WEIRDRAMON]

Is this the same for a 2007 GMC acadia? Hope someone can help

[@mdjahidjahidansari6255]

Hey pine how do you seArch any cars wiring diagram plz tell me this side name plz

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

ALLDATA

[@fabc1207]

As car mechanic.and diagnosticians also have to be made out of Rubber to fit

[@ThisIsReMarkable]

I learned that GM puts their fuse panel in a silly place

[@joshclark6101]

Does anybody know why he had to go through the code clearing process twice for all the codes to clear. If anyone knows that would be awesome thank you

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Good question, Josh! The first code clear only took care of the first 14 modules that were online during the initial scan. Once the Airbag modules came back, they also had some codes stored, so I had to clear those out as well :)

[@joshclark6101]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics wow, thanks Ivan. You and your crew of car guys putting out videos have created alot of good techs. Big thanks

[@daveg6220]

so what caused the short/ fuse to blow???????

[@NoWr2Run]

Customer poking around & letting the smoke out.

[@daveg6220]

yea but if so might be and exposed wire or shorted connection somewhere,

[@pb3033]

The electric diagram and the fuse box..

[@john1240able]

How many miles on it.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

128k

[@aymenmohamed1134]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🌷

[@deweydodo6691]

hope G.M. mouse proofed all their vehicles since they like so much wire

[@donald1056]

Is that code B0081 or B0091????

[@richardcranium5839]

if you check the power with the ground you blow the fuse get confused and go to ivan

[@SmittySmithsonite]

Leave it to GM to change the stupid fuse design!! AGAIN!! Stuff like that gets me all fired up ... 😡 They could've spent that extra money making other parts a little more better built! Or maybe a bit more accessible for the tech! What a concept. GM sucks. 😬 Service info was key on this one. I'd have never found that stupid module in a million years!

[@Chico-td2fy]

Some parts required

[@samcripes3046]

Gm only having 1 pink wire? Sounds a little pink lol

[@johnditch6357]

No COMMunication is when I loose access to the internet it is a very bad thing.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Hopefully the global pandemic won't slow down the internet!!

[@kkovler1]

should of checked fuses first, but your not on flat rate, or in a shop, and on your own time, so does not really matter.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Well it does matter since the goal is to perform the diagnosis as efficiently as possible 😉

[@davide.s.9880]

One don't buy a Gm . Two unless you know what you're doing pay someone to work on it . Not you think you know but you really know. It will save you money and time.

[@nonamenolastname8600]

Don't make me scared. :(

[@buckhorncortez]

"What did you learn?" Don't buy GM products...

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yeah some are certainly not of the best quality lol

[@donnierobertson3088]

K

[@markomarkic590]

WRANGLER YJ 1991 YEARS ENGINE 4.0 PCM 56026982 NOT WORK PLEASE HEP NEED NUMBER PART FOR NEW PCM 3 YEARS NO DRAVER JEEP NOT WORK PCM PROBLEMS THANKS FROM BOSNIA

[@dznuttzonyachin7499]

when it rains and drain tubes are clogged it will auto activate rear wipers, destroy the sunroof motor, flood the inside, ruin your fuse box, ruin your blower motor, corrode wiring in console, these suv's are 💩

[@andrew6139]

hello I have bag light only if someone sits in the passenger seat after it stay on till the car is turned off. I have 2010 Chevrolet Aveo i bought a scanner and got the results of scan and hope you can help me with your understanding of results of data. here it is as follows: code B0081_0F PASSENGER PRESENCE MODULE ERRACTIC/ B10010_0 / SENSEING AND MODULE (SDM) OPTION CONFIGURANTION ERROR # 2 / SUPPEMENTAL INFLATBLE RESTRAINT / FAULT 12 THAT ALL HAVE FROM SCAN HOPE YOU WILL RESPOND SOON