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@gmatclub Жыл бұрын
How many of you have experienced a score drop on the test and attribute one or more reasons discussed by Charles to the drop-off? Do let us know in the comments.
@hethekumar Жыл бұрын
> 650~ 690 in every practice tests and 500 in the real test, pure nightmare.
@backtobackcosmicflash Жыл бұрын
Please tell me your months of practice and what practice tests were you taking
@utsavpatel54843 ай бұрын
Hi I hope you are doing well in your life I am utsav Recently i saw your comment on GMATclub youtube channel, I am also planning to start GMAT focus preparation But i don't have much knowledge about I hope you can help me Please response
@hethekumar3 ай бұрын
@@utsavpatel5484 well, hi utsav If I answer your question my answer can be as long as paragraph question in GMAT. I think it will be a good start if write down all the questions you have regarding the exam and check out each question on KZbin, it's a great source. Write down your strong subjects and weak subjects where you need work more Set few questions and timer on and complete as many questions as possible. Initial days take question from your strong areas, as you move ahead work on more challenging questions.
@GMATNinjaTutoring Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, everybody! After this video published, several questions about test anxiety popped into my inbox, specifically in the context of this video. So for anybody struggling specifically with test anxiety, these resources might help a bit: - Beginner's guide to GMAT test anxiety: tinyurl.com/bdhff2fx - Test anxiety video playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLiaK8zyGGndn3zYXqBDWdBxCSSJjHaRT6 - Test anxiety quiz, designed to help you understand the factors that can contribute to GMAT anxiety: www.gmatninja.com/test-anxiety/performance-quiz Have fun studying, everybody!
@colinkincaid692 Жыл бұрын
this feels very timely since my first official dropped to a 690 from 760, fingers crossed for my retake this tuesday
@gmatclub Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video and good luck for your GMAT test today.
@austinjon31 Жыл бұрын
How did it go?
@colinkincaid692 Жыл бұрын
@@austinjon31 got a 730, feeling pretty good considering how bad my first try was
@MartyMurrayCoaching8 ай бұрын
Reason number 3 is perhaps the most insidious one. I've seen so many times a test-taker totally mystified by a score drop that resulted from using prep materials based on the official practice tests. It's terrible to prepare for months using such materials only to find that you had prepared for the practice tests but not the actual GMAT.
@gmatclub8 ай бұрын
This is helpful. Thanks Marty!
@Abhishek-kg3je Жыл бұрын
Very true, official mocks 710 and real test 650. Rejected the score right away
@gmatclub Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I hope this video will help you in improving test day performance on your next GMAT attempt. Good luck!
@sanketdabade Жыл бұрын
hi, the highest score that I had achieved in a gmat practice test, which I gave under correct testing conditions, was a 770 but I got a 710 in the actual test just 1 week after the 770 practice test - the single reason being the test anxiety brain "fog" which Charles mentioned. Please help. Please share any suggestions or articles which might discuss and resolve this issue. Thanks
@harshvardhan5867 Жыл бұрын
Exact same situation. 770 in practice test and 710 a week later in the actual test.
@gmatclub Жыл бұрын
Charles has conducted a very detailed interview with a mindfulness coach on Test Anxiety. You should definitely watch it. Here is the link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGXdgGWcf5Kqb5o
@sanketdabade Жыл бұрын
@@gmatclub thanks a lot for sharing this
@GMATNinjaTutoring Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that you had a rough test day, @sanketdabade! These resources might help a bit: - Beginner's guide to GMAT test anxiety: tinyurl.com/bdhff2fx - Test anxiety video playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLiaK8zyGGndn3zYXqBDWdBxCSSJjHaRT6 - Test anxiety quiz, designed to help you understand the factors that can contribute to GMAT anxiety: www.gmatninja.com/test-anxiety/performance-quiz I hope that helps a bit, and good luck with your retake!
@ishankumar3220 Жыл бұрын
BTW What used to be your average GMAT Mock score??
@justsomeone7744 Жыл бұрын
Hi Everyone and GMAT Ninja, Just wanted to share my 2cent on test anxiety. Knowing that mock scores can be both friends and foes, I would recommend anyone taking the test to STOP taking the mock a week or two prior the test day. I took the official test without doing any mock (but been practicing official questions in long strench) and it worked magic!
@gmatclub Жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing.
@houdasrhir3216 Жыл бұрын
“ A systematic consistent approach to the exam”. Does that mean that there is always one linear way to answer a gmat question? It often occurs to me to solve one question with different methods in different times. Is that bad? So should it be more about being systematic when approaching questions or more about having solid foundations and being flexible? Or is it a combination of the two? Thank you Gmat Ninja and Gmat Club for the great knowledge you put out here.
@GMATNinjaTutoring Жыл бұрын
Great question, @houdasrhir3216! The short answer is that both of those things definitely matter. On one hand, you'll want to do everything humanly possible to avoid careless errors on the GMAT, since those can absolutely kill your score. As a very small example, you'll ALWAYS want to be completely systematic about reading quant questions twice, just to help insulate you against sloppy mistakes. So when I use the terms "systematic" or "consistent", I'm mostly referring to the idea that certain aspects of your approach to questions should be the same, every single time. For a good example of what I mean, check out this video, which focuses on how to approach quant questions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHuZnadpi7KBmbc. We could say broadly similar things on verbal or data insights: for example, you'll want to read RC passages with the same pace and intent, every single time. I'm definitely NOT suggesting that you should use the same exact solution path every time you see a particular type of quant question. You're spot-on: most GMAT quant questions have several different solution paths, and if you want to maximize your score, you'll want to be flexible enough to spot the best path (or at least a pretty good one) for the specific question that's in front of you. Bottom line: certain aspects of your approach to questions needs to be mind-numbingly consistent, or else you'll miss a ton of questions that you're capable of getting right. But you still need to think flexibly, especially when it comes to choosing an ideal solution path on quant. I hope that helps a bit!
@houdasrhir3216 Жыл бұрын
@@GMATNinjaTutoring Thank you very much Charles. It is clear and makes sense!
@mrinalsingh4536 Жыл бұрын
Hi Charles, what if one has exhausted all 6 Gmat practice exams? I have my retake in July and I’m not sure about which mocks to use. Would you suggest the MGMAT mocks?
@GMATNinjaTutoring Жыл бұрын
That's a tough situation, and I don't have any great solutions for you, unfortunately. Once you've done all six practice tests, there's really no way to get an accurate score, other than by taking the real thing. GMAC spends a fortune developing this exam, and test-prep companies can't possibly compete with that level of investment -- and non-official practice test scores simply aren't reliable indicators of where you stand. Sure, it's possible that your actual test scores will happen to match your scores from MGMAT or GMAT Club or some other non-official practice test. But it's also possible that the scores will be WAY off. So your options are imperfect in this situation, unfortunately. You can retake the official mba.com tests, but your score will be inflated by some amount -- and the timing won't feel anything like the real thing. You could take non-official tests, but they really don't resemble the real thing, especially on verbal. Other than that, all you can do is try to track your results on homework (from, say, OGs or LSATs if you need work on CR and RC), and look for signs of progress. Sorry that I don't have better advice in this situation. It's probably not helpful for you at this point, but for anybody reading this who has NOT yet done all 6 mba.com tests, this video might help a bit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/anTEXqBujK6pjsU. Sorry for the bad news, @mrinalsingh4536! And good luck with your studies.
@mrinalsingh4536 Жыл бұрын
@@GMATNinjaTutoring ahh, guess I’m doomed! Anyway, thanks a lot for replying! Really really appreciate it.
@austinjon31 Жыл бұрын
Personally I did official mocks twice over saw majority different questions and passages- specially for practice test 5&6. And I did not see a score increase until I trained properly in other materials for a good amount of time. So I believe, while not 100% ideal as a score indicator- one can still redo the official mocks the 2nd time and benefit from studying mistakes. You can simply aim for perfection on official mocks retakes
@gmatclub Жыл бұрын
Just a comment and alternative opinion and perhaps a politically incorrect one 🙂 I don't think it is realistic to rely only on the official practice tests. I have 2 reasons. Please disagree with me anyone who wants :-) 1. People say third party tests are inaccurate. I think that's a valid blanket statement since the official algorithm is not known and nobody can use official questions in tests but if we look at test records, we can see that GMAT Prep accuracy is also bad for tests 3/4/5/6. Look at the comments of @moneytrail5314 below - they got 740 on the GMAC Test 3 and 610 on the GMAT. That's a pretty wild difference. So if the main prerogative is accuracy of score, I think accuracy has gone out of the window once GMAC has launched Tests 3, 4, 5, and 6. I understand that GMAC spends a lot of money on the questions but the tests 3, 4, 5, and 6 only contain 67 questions (31 quant and 36 verbal) and when the database size equals test sample, you cannot have an adaptive test after about half of the questions have been served. I would argue (please everyone feel free to disagree with me) that Tests 1 and 2 are awesome. That's it. If you look at tests 3/4/5/6 vs. MGMAT with a large database of questions, I would argue MGMAT will give you better score picture just because they have more questions, even though they use their own algirthm to calculate it. My Argument 1 rests here. 😇 Argument 2: I have taken a number of third party tests when I was preparing. As some old-timers may remember, we only had 2 official tests. That's it. And based on my argument 1 above, we still kind of have only 2 free tests that are good. That's it, so back in the day, you HAD to use third part tests... for decades... and we did. there was no way around it. Everyone used and still uses non-official tests because there is no way to succeed with just 2 or even 6 practice tests. Most use MGMAT, Kaplan, or Experts Global because there is more to tests than just purity of verbal phrasing and integrity of CR logic. Value of a practice test (I may be missing some) - you can take quant - there is not as much nuance in those. Second, you take tests to practice timing (not verbal questions) and you can practice that with all types of questions. Third, I feel the real difference between official and unofficial tests really comes in with harder verbal questions, so the official questions are great on a test but generations of test takers have proven that you can succeed with MGMAT and other tests. So in conclusion, I am not saying don't use official tests. Definitely do but the world does not end when you run out of them. I am probably made more mistakes than anyone else on the GMAT (one reason I started GMAT Club) but I could not afford OG when I was preparing so my only exposure was to the GMAT Prep tests. I took 4 of them (1 reset each). So I have seen a total of about 150 official questions before I took my GMAT. I scored 750. I am not a genius. I started with a 530. I hope my story proves that solid background and strategies prepare you for the test better than any quantity of official questions. (DO I feel I could have gotten more than 750 if I had OG? Likely, most likely but I settled for 750). Just wanted to share a bit of a different
@gagangujral9637 Жыл бұрын
Test anxiety was my killer in my last attempt
@gmatclub9 ай бұрын
GMAT Focus should actually be better for anxiety as mistake placement has almost no impact on your score, so you can focus on getting questions answered and can come back to up to 3 of them if you have a mental block. Also, would recommend that you warm up before the GMAT attempt, do a decent warm up of perhaps quizzes, questions, errors. Solve 10 q and 10 v questions to get your mind going. Don't worry about tiring yourself and saving your strength - that works the other way around.
@moneytrail5314 Жыл бұрын
I got 740 on gmac 3 days back I took the exam got only 610 dumped the score right away
@austinjon31 Жыл бұрын
Charles, any thoughts on at what score to stop retaking the gmat, especially for people who do not acore as well on the real exam as they did on practice tests?
@gmatclub9 ай бұрын
This is a personal question. I would say you have to evaluate the ROI of higher score vs. other elements of your application. Some people may run into a wall that will require regrouping. Others, may be close to their target or minimum-passable score. While others may be able to improve with minimal tweaks (those do happen quite a bit as there are better days and better tests). You will be better off posting your individual case in the GMAT Club forum, perhaps in Ask GMAT Experts or in General GMAT Strategies sub-forum gmatclub.com/forum/general-gmat-questions-and-strategies-1/