Common Strategies in Chess and When NOT to Use Them, with GM Finegold

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GMBenjaminFinegold

GMBenjaminFinegold

Күн бұрын

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@jogzyg2036
@jogzyg2036 10 күн бұрын
Playing mate in 1 is a common strategy to win, but if your opponent hangs their queen, obviously, you have to take it.
@kowikowi7060
@kowikowi7060 10 күн бұрын
i try to play mate in 8 but im to bad to thin ahead so mate in 1 is the way to go,
@chessmaster-f1r
@chessmaster-f1r 9 күн бұрын
@@jogzyg2036 haha
@Jivvi
@Jivvi 8 күн бұрын
Also if you can play en passant, you have to.
@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool 7 күн бұрын
You have to accept the Botez Gambit. There is no opening such as Botez Gambit declined, so you have to take the gambit.
@RadicalCaveman
@RadicalCaveman 7 күн бұрын
Not if you have a mate in 1
@skatesscience101
@skatesscience101 10 күн бұрын
Frandmaster Gren Binegold with another classic
@tonmoydeka3983
@tonmoydeka3983 10 күн бұрын
Its Grandmaster Fen Binegold sherlock
@jordanmcmorris5248
@jordanmcmorris5248 10 күн бұрын
Gine Benfold
@ultrainstinctshaggy669
@ultrainstinctshaggy669 10 күн бұрын
Fren Ginegold
@_nemo171
@_nemo171 10 күн бұрын
And you are not.
@mydevice2596
@mydevice2596 10 күн бұрын
Wow, a rare Triple Spoonerism
@hermanblinkhoven1856
@hermanblinkhoven1856 10 күн бұрын
The voice over with Karen gravely stating the killer moves has a spooky and fatalistic quality which I really like.
@joycejulep9115
@joycejulep9115 10 күн бұрын
Destined to be an underrated comment.
@pinkrey4277
@pinkrey4277 9 күн бұрын
No idea if you read these comments but I’ve been watching you for ages and ages and ages, and etc. and this has to be one of my most favoritest lectures of yours. And you have a lot of lectures. The topic is presented in an intriguing way, and that’s a creative way to teach how to break da rules
@renehenriksen1735
@renehenriksen1735 20 сағат бұрын
That green chair he´s sitting in makes me think "Finegold-chess - Backed up by the incredible Hulk"
@davidwagner6116
@davidwagner6116 10 күн бұрын
Thanks to the sponsor for a great question for Ben
@arimorrison7816
@arimorrison7816 10 күн бұрын
"Concrete factors are generally more important than chess principal's" is a chess principal
@inkL0sed
@inkL0sed 10 күн бұрын
Yeah well sometimes the principles are more important than the concrete factors
@rrevh12345
@rrevh12345 10 күн бұрын
*principle
@arimorrison7816
@arimorrison7816 10 күн бұрын
@@rrevh12345 yes! Thank you
@anthonym1880
@anthonym1880 10 күн бұрын
That's deep 🤔
@blackandblueeagle
@blackandblueeagle 7 күн бұрын
Okay thanks Heraclitus
@isaackikkert6960
@isaackikkert6960 10 күн бұрын
This would have to be the best lecture you have given in my honest opinion. It helps people think outside the box and use their imagination for real ideas, not just memorised patterns but the whole " concrete position " excellent reasoning when teaching.
@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 10 күн бұрын
Kudos to the live audience member who answered all the questions!
@PurpleSkies_
@PurpleSkies_ 10 күн бұрын
Fishy
@johannzinnitz8893
@johannzinnitz8893 8 күн бұрын
very suspicious
@superneenjaa718
@superneenjaa718 8 күн бұрын
Had a weird voice
@RadicalCaveman
@RadicalCaveman 7 күн бұрын
Maybe it was a computer voice speaking for the audience as a whole.
@secondmouse3533
@secondmouse3533 10 күн бұрын
35:00 It's so weird not being able to see that black simply castles.I probably would have resigned as well.I have noticed that sometimes weak players are better at spotting some of these unusual strategies .I guess their minds have not yet been prejudiced by rules and chess teachers.
@pascaldesjardins9835
@pascaldesjardins9835 10 күн бұрын
Best Ben Finegold chess video i seen today.
@nsiderultimaseth
@nsiderultimaseth 10 күн бұрын
I enjoyed this lecture a lot. The analysis of the first game was really helpful for me in particular!
@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 10 күн бұрын
Hey, Ben. You tied for 2nd (with Aleksey Dreev) in that Capelle-la-Grande tournament. Julian Hodgson won with 8/9. Great tournament! You won your last five games in a row!
@sushicooking
@sushicooking 10 күн бұрын
This is the greatest lecture of this lecture when it was posted
@jordanmcmorris5248
@jordanmcmorris5248 10 күн бұрын
The way I think about it is that strategic thoughts are just educated guess. " two minor pieces should overpower a rook" "my knight should be more effective in a closed position" but with sufficient concrete analysis you can look forward and prove/disprove these guesses. "Turns out the rook is better than two pieces because the bishop is tied down in this position" or "turns out the knight is more powerful on the open board because the opponents pieces are so vulnerable"
@MrCheeze
@MrCheeze 10 күн бұрын
Best lecture in a while - great topic and some illustrative games, particularly the first one.
@askthepizzaguy
@askthepizzaguy 10 күн бұрын
good lecture. really in the zone here, this topic was a good pick, interesting for both ben and the audience.
@raining1975
@raining1975 10 күн бұрын
42:25 Qf2 is also mate.
@fridolfwalter2256
@fridolfwalter2256 10 күн бұрын
@@raining1975 That's true! I still like the bishop mate more.
@unibrowcow6524
@unibrowcow6524 8 күн бұрын
I was triggered that this wasn't mentioned tbh
@maxweider9112
@maxweider9112 10 күн бұрын
Excellent lecture! Go Ben!
@RealityCheck1
@RealityCheck1 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for this very logical concept. While being a strong- concrete player, Fischer fell for Spassky's irrational positions in game 11. This is what made Karpov think he would have beaten Fischer, had they played each other in the 70's. This is the reason why Magnus switched his training to become more universal (knowing something about everything instead of hyper-focusing & mastering just one concept).
@timtsouchlos5654
@timtsouchlos5654 2 күн бұрын
Thats another irrational position from Karpov
@marcgovers5707
@marcgovers5707 10 күн бұрын
Very nice and instructive lecture,
@camreese
@camreese 8 күн бұрын
The kid saying, Excuse me, I've won ten games in a row moving my queen out, and Grand Master of Chess Ben Finegold throws up his hands, Who am I to argue? lmao
@miken7246
@miken7246 10 күн бұрын
2 minutes in and you're dropping massive philosophical chess bombs haha. Great insights. Thanks for sharing.
@askthepizzaguy
@askthepizzaguy 10 күн бұрын
don't do these moves that are bad in general principle unless, if you don't do them, you lose, or if you do do them, you win.
@JustinHampton-l5j
@JustinHampton-l5j Сағат бұрын
10:00 I saw both the rejection of d5, giving up restriction on the knight and Qd1, moving the queen towards a future 'big attack" on the king. - 1200, 2k puzzles
@Some_guy_with_a_beard
@Some_guy_with_a_beard 7 күн бұрын
Great video! God Bless America!
@askthepizzaguy
@askthepizzaguy 10 күн бұрын
oooo i like this topic, it sounds really intriguing. knowing when not to use the general principles is good stuff you need to know to be good and make good decisions.
@southernrun9048
@southernrun9048 7 күн бұрын
Great lecture. Thanks
@jamesclark3911
@jamesclark3911 10 күн бұрын
Another interesting video from the man himself Brandgaster Fen Minegold!
@johncarlisle16
@johncarlisle16 5 күн бұрын
very instructive video, thanks very much Ben
@nicholasciriello4522
@nicholasciriello4522 10 күн бұрын
Awesome lecture! Thanks, Frandmaster Gren Binegold!
@emmafountain2059
@emmafountain2059 2 күн бұрын
Honestly, just as a rule of life, I think it’s important to recognise that general principles are less important than concrete analysis.
@zacnewford
@zacnewford 10 күн бұрын
beautiful game, GM Ben Finegold! Thanks for sharing and thanks to the sponsor!
@tomrockefeller4620
@tomrockefeller4620 12 сағат бұрын
One of your best!
@Truth.00001
@Truth.00001 6 күн бұрын
Great video thanks for the advice 😊
@PrestonHibbitts
@PrestonHibbitts 9 күн бұрын
Just FYI Christian Troyke got IM four years later and most likely still holds a grudge against Ben
@therealclp
@therealclp 7 сағат бұрын
@@PrestonHibbitts Did he ever get to GM?
@EmirRamic-sr3qd
@EmirRamic-sr3qd 7 күн бұрын
Thanks!!
@blunderghostchess
@blunderghostchess 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the lecture! :)
@M3TOXI
@M3TOXI 10 күн бұрын
At around 42:06 Mr. Finegold says, there is only one Checkmate, Bf2# but would Qf2 not be checkmate as well? Am I overlooking something?
@gaopinghu7332
@gaopinghu7332 9 күн бұрын
Correct.
@richardv.2475
@richardv.2475 3 күн бұрын
You are right, except missing # from Qf2#. Here is the PNG line if one wants to try it with an engine: 1. e4 e5 2. f4 d5 3. exd5 c6 4. fxe5 Qh4+ 5. Ke2 Qe4+ 6. Kf2 Bc5+ 7. d4 Bxd4+ 8. Kg3 Qg6+ 9. Kf4 Qf5+ 10. Kg3
@anonnona6940
@anonnona6940 6 күн бұрын
Good lecture Mr. Finegold
@southernrun9048
@southernrun9048 10 күн бұрын
Great video and lesson
@jasmint6703
@jasmint6703 2 күн бұрын
Game 1 follows the general rule, "Always retreat."
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 6 күн бұрын
Pretty cool! Thanks!
@martinwoolf3861
@martinwoolf3861 10 күн бұрын
You were correct, I was yelling the right move at my computer :)
@Netizen_Paradise
@Netizen_Paradise 3 күн бұрын
Master class on sarcasm, humor and some chess exceptions 👌
@chessmaster-f1r
@chessmaster-f1r 9 күн бұрын
Very interesting analysis
@data-dynamo-guy
@data-dynamo-guy 9 күн бұрын
Thanks Mr Ben, love to listen your explanation in chess.
@RadicalCaveman
@RadicalCaveman 7 күн бұрын
In the position at 15:46, you would have been able to play a better move than Rxd3: Bf6 Nxf6 Rh3 and mate next move.
@bbbbobbbb
@bbbbobbbb 6 күн бұрын
@@RadicalCaveman Nh5 stops mate I think
@gusjewell3409
@gusjewell3409 3 күн бұрын
True
@jaybingham3711
@jaybingham3711 2 күн бұрын
37:50 Just remember...a knight on the rim...is prim!! And oh so proper. 👍💪🤟🥳
@johngalbicsek5567
@johngalbicsek5567 10 күн бұрын
You timed "I can see people on youtube" perfectly with me seeing it.
@GamesAreForKids91
@GamesAreForKids91 10 күн бұрын
Great lecture GM Finefold
@ChessAsKungFu
@ChessAsKungFu 10 күн бұрын
I learned so much from these examples, thank you.
@Alex-xk6md
@Alex-xk6md 10 күн бұрын
Great lecture
@Deadeye1967
@Deadeye1967 8 күн бұрын
Well done, good video.
@teilzeitamigo
@teilzeitamigo 10 күн бұрын
"That shows you what I know" haha great one man, f6 is a tricky move
@zarwil
@zarwil 10 күн бұрын
Very good lecture!
@MvLogisticsGOW
@MvLogisticsGOW 9 күн бұрын
Ben you are such a smart man. I hope one day when I get older I’m as smart as you are.
@eklektikTubb
@eklektikTubb 10 күн бұрын
Three approaches to learning chess: 1. Wasting a lot of time by learning tons of openings, middle game positions and endgame positions. 2. Saving time by focusing on basic principles and tactics. 3. Learning to understand when it is okay to break those principles. The third one is probably the best, or at least the most sublime... and i am very happy that i found a video about it. 🙂
@yetz2291
@yetz2291 9 күн бұрын
The best approach imo requires a good balance of all three, though based on your "wasting time" addition I doubt you agree lol.
@eklektikTubb
@eklektikTubb 9 күн бұрын
@@yetz2291 Oh, i do like balance. And i wouldnt mind spending time to achieve such balance, but with that approach... would i also find enough time to actually PLAY chess?
@kmarasin
@kmarasin 10 күн бұрын
42:20 Qf2 also mate
@eudesgeoffroy8416
@eudesgeoffroy8416 2 күн бұрын
Qd1, #11 on the engine list. Red thumb.
@jameslazer819
@jameslazer819 10 күн бұрын
Top vid Ben 👏👏
@isurualahakoon2265
@isurualahakoon2265 8 күн бұрын
Thank you Sir! Very interesting & instructive chess lesson. I just have a question. I thought after Bc8 in the first game you could have played Rf5 against Bf8 since he cant move the Knight due to Bf6! What do you think of that move?
@peregrinepickle
@peregrinepickle 4 күн бұрын
Yuri Balashov was ranked as high as 11th in the world at one time. Losing to Ben was one of the principal causes of the breakup of the Soviet Union.
@ItsYouAreNotYour
@ItsYouAreNotYour 9 күн бұрын
What about a video of some times you actually used the pawns to push and lock down a side? Typically, when I look at the computer they rarely do it. It always seems to be take or leave the tension.
@tommonk7651
@tommonk7651 9 күн бұрын
Good to see you, Ben! (and hear Karen....)
@hugojensen2865
@hugojensen2865 7 күн бұрын
Nice game Ben, Can I just ask, before you moved the rook to e1, couldn't you have taken the pawn on f6 with the bishop, hence leaving the door open for Queen to h8 checkmate, or did I see that wrong?
@VernAfterReading
@VernAfterReading 9 күн бұрын
37:18 premature resignation. hey it happens to everyone.
@benjamingrunbaum3601
@benjamingrunbaum3601 9 күн бұрын
@@VernAfterReading too true
@mmmu9638
@mmmu9638 10 күн бұрын
You should always do things that are not bad in the situation
@s3th4cus
@s3th4cus 10 күн бұрын
great chess educator
@barthouweling4787
@barthouweling4787 6 күн бұрын
But.. how do you spot reasons to break the rules? The answer I usually get is "concrete calculation", but you can't cover every move even three or four moves deep; the variations you consider have to be guided by _something_ don't they?
@LucasGregory-m3j
@LucasGregory-m3j 9 күн бұрын
Go Ben! But stay there.
@DiogenesNephew
@DiogenesNephew 10 күн бұрын
I love you, Ben.
@cobalius
@cobalius Күн бұрын
for the first position (and move), what about Qb4? with the eye on d6, b7 and b2 and possible coordination with Be7, Rf3/Raf1 and dxe... i somehow wanna exploit blacks weak knight as it has currently no job, no freedom and a bad placement (hinders pawn protection and queen movement). And of course i can also argue, that my queen is indeed misplaced and still not fine on b4, but i like my tactical idea more than a solid and lame Qd1-d2-e3 maneuver + a4 for a proper queenside immobilization, because i literally expect that from an engine there........ hell nah. But it would be my second idea; to retreat and consilidate my strong center even more, or to try to make use of the f-file, depending on what black does
@Blaisem
@Blaisem 7 күн бұрын
Christian Troyke didn't get his IM until 1996. So Ben beating him in the last game of this video held him back by 4 years.
@mrlucasftw42
@mrlucasftw42 4 күн бұрын
Chess with LIfelines - ask the audience, phone a friend, ask the engine
@aidasbui2386
@aidasbui2386 8 күн бұрын
Damn, Slavoj Žižek has changed over the years.
@thegametwok
@thegametwok 10 күн бұрын
37:46 I'd buy that book LOL
@anvb5a1
@anvb5a1 10 күн бұрын
42:56 Objection! Pawn g6 mate is funnier!!!
@jamesbelfer1480
@jamesbelfer1480 10 күн бұрын
15:53 why capture on d3? Rh3 right away wins faster!
@biankaj.v.2218
@biankaj.v.2218 9 күн бұрын
Yup he should have said that right after at 15:57. Killed me tjat he didnt bc i thought i was stupid thinking there must be an obvious defense to the checkmate i am missing.
@bajnicestanko4047
@bajnicestanko4047 10 күн бұрын
Qd1 was my choice hence it's not a strange move
@f3f6Bewarned
@f3f6Bewarned 2 күн бұрын
If you have En Passant, it's more important than mate. Also if you have mate in 1 you should look for better.
@thenick3216
@thenick3216 10 күн бұрын
Is a concrete reason better than a fibreglass reason?
@shujaatullah3617
@shujaatullah3617 10 күн бұрын
The Nick 3216 - Are you a civil engineer?😊 I have studied both theories of reinforced concrete and carbon and glass fibre reinforced polymers...😊
@EneldoSancocho
@EneldoSancocho 9 күн бұрын
👏👏👏
@MalstromFonseca-ze7xe
@MalstromFonseca-ze7xe 10 күн бұрын
in philosophy, we have a name for this mistake, the fallacy of misplaced concreteness.
@raskalnekov
@raskalnekov 10 күн бұрын
You know what they say. You can use some of the strategies some of the time, but you can't use all of the strategies all of the time.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 10 күн бұрын
24:30 "In 1992, was Bent Larsen alive?" Yes -- until 2010.
@shubham22221
@shubham22221 10 күн бұрын
The answer is "Fries"
@MagmaCatGGbro
@MagmaCatGGbro 9 күн бұрын
In the last game you played f3 🙂
@GaryTheGray
@GaryTheGray 10 күн бұрын
"Always move your knight to the side" ... GM Finegold, 2025 🍕
@davidsipayboun9146
@davidsipayboun9146 10 күн бұрын
Castling > taking queen is crazy
@Rare_K_
@Rare_K_ 10 күн бұрын
25:40, why don't we as white here just move away the bishop on h4, probably to f2, maybe e1. black can only avoid checkmate by giving away huge amounts of material
@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 10 күн бұрын
If Bf2, then Black can move the rook off f7, say Rd7. Then Qh8+ and Kf7. But I'm sure White is winning there too. Rae1 is a move a grandmaster would think of. Bf2 is what I would think of.
@King.Mark.
@King.Mark. 8 күн бұрын
I jumped and I'm not even a knight yet or maybe I am and just didn't know 👀
@Midnight890
@Midnight890 9 күн бұрын
42:09 I believe Qf2# is also a possibility here
@yetz2291
@yetz2291 9 күн бұрын
Qc2 unfortunately loses the queen in one move. Qf2# is possible though, that's probably what you meant.
@Midnight890
@Midnight890 9 күн бұрын
@@yetz2291oh yeah your right just fixed it. What a mix up
@KF1
@KF1 7 күн бұрын
Always never play F3, and never always play F4
@EneldoSancocho
@EneldoSancocho 9 күн бұрын
Let me suggest another title since you said the current one is a little long: "With these Tactics You Will Always Win !! Except When You Don't !!" It's a little clickbaity but honest at the same time.
@JeffreyMarciano
@JeffreyMarciano 17 минут бұрын
We don't like clickbaity
@answeris4217
@answeris4217 10 күн бұрын
Rule #1... If it's good then don't use it against Ben... Got it.
@captainpause547
@captainpause547 10 күн бұрын
I left a comment somewhere, but I cannot find it.
@_nemo171
@_nemo171 10 күн бұрын
Always retreat!
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